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Holder to Name Prosecutor to Probe CIA Abuses: Report
WASHINGTON - US Attorney General Eric Holder is poised to appoint a criminal prosecutor to investigate alleged CIA abuses committed during the interrogation of terrorism suspects, The Los Angeles Times reported.
Citing current and former US government officials, the newspaper said Holder envisioned an inquiry that would be "narrow" in scope, focusing on "whether people went beyond the techniques that were authorized" in memos issued by the administration of former president George W. Bush that liberally interpreted anti-torture laws.
US Attorney General Eric Holder is poised to appoint a criminal prosecutor to investigate alleged CIA abuses committed during the interrogation of terrorism suspects, The Los Angeles Times reported. (AFP) Current and former CIA and Justice Department officials who have firsthand knowledge of the interrogation files contend that criminal convictions will be difficult to obtain because the quality of evidence is poor and the legal underpinnings have never been tested, the paper said.
Some cases have not previously been disclosed, including an instance in which a Central Intelligence Agency operative brought a gun into the interrogation booth to force a detainee to talk, The Times said.
Other potentially criminal abuses have already come to light, including the waterboarding of prisoners in excess of Justice Department guidelines, and the deaths of detainees in CIA custody in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2002 and 2003, according to the report.
Opening a criminal investigation is something Holder "has come reluctantly to consider," the paper quotes an unnamed Justice Department official as saying.
The official emphasized, however, that Holder had not reached a final decision but noting that "as attorney general, he has the obligation to follow the law."
Others familiar with Holder's thinking say that such an investigation seems all but certain, and that a prosecutor will probably be selected from a short list that Holder had asked subordinates to assemble, the report said.
Such a prosecutor would examine cases that are generally at least five years old, and probably some that were previously reviewed by career prosecutors who concluded that they could not be pursued, The Times said.

31 Comments so far
Show AllBullshit, Eric Holder the repug appeaser has no intentions of followering the law. Impeach him if it is possible. We have had three previous A.G.s that did what Bush and Cheney wanted them to do. Perhaps Eric (do nothing)Holder is taking orders from the no plan except to destroy this nation. Go Erica, you are doing a great job. Pat,pat.
if only those who went beyond the techniques that were "authorized" are to be prosecuted, this will be a sham.
ALL instigators and perpetrators of what decent folk know to have been torture must be tried.
Even though there is an absolute legal prohabition against torture, Holder will hold a narrow investigation into whether torture went beyond what was authorized by the torturers themselves? What a joke!
Perhaps the Nuremburg trials should only have focused on Nazis who used more lethal gas than was "authorized" by Hitler?
Poppa Bush will suicide Holder or any special prosecutor before he lets anything happen to his precious son.
Bring America Back !!!!
**easydoesit, you are my kind of progressive, Yeah. But, Kucinich is not a
Torture kind of guy.
**If you let Kucinich get into the Truth Investigation of 9/11===now there is
a subject He could probably tear right into with gusto !!! W and Daddy would not
like that one bit either.
TruthKnoller August 9th, 2009 1:41 pm..........Yep...problem is, that DK would wind up like Wellstone and the three Kennedy's.....These SOBs play for keeps when it comes to their precious children...Noriega could tell you a thing or two...maybe he will....
I nominate Amy Goodman to head up the investigation. But then we would lose her from "Democracy Now". So perhaps Stephen Kinzer would be good.
No mealy-mouth apologists please.
Joe
jclientelle August 9th, 2009 11:37 am...........Give me Kucinich...and tell him to stay off airplanes for a good while.
Yes, Dennis -- be safe!!! Stay on the ground!!!
-gs
Bring America Back !!!!............!...Amy would be a nice choice since she's been 'torturing' us with the truth about Bldg 7, World Trade Center, NYC on
9/11/01.
***They call Amy a 'Gateway Person', surely not a mealy-mouthed apologist !
***But, in case Amy is appointed, let's give her the clue: the Torture programs
were created to induce 'Patsies'--fall guys to admit to masterminding 9/11.
Exactly as achieved at the Gitmo Kangaroo Trials===waterboarded Detainees admitting to being "masterminds", and begging for martyrdom entrance to Islam heaven.
***You see, they knew their first round of Patsies would not hold up--anthrax,
bin Laden, Saddam, etc, etc.
TruthKnoller August 9th, 2009 1:28 pm.....You have stated the absolute truth. There are witnesses that KNOW Amy heard the countdown for WTC 7. They were right next to her and they heard it on the firemen/police radios. And I am sure you know OBL has been dead since 12/2001.....
http://informationclearinghouse.info/
article23127.htm
I for one, will never be quiet. Amy et al (Palast, Chomsky, Zinn) have been quiet too long. They know who puts butter on their bread, eh?
Cool circus.
Can I get some of that bread, now?
sorry, all the bread was given to the banks.
Bring America Back !!!!
Just watch Holder appoint Clinton, Bill-that is !! Holy Cow Batman, it's Him again!
Bring America Back !!!!
***Now before Attorney General Holder appoints Dick Cheney,
Arturo Gonzalez, or John Ashcroft as Special Prosecutors for Torture-----let us tell him we already know the answers.
Please save us the Shams, the Pretense, The Tax Monies..
they ain't gonna convict anybody for torture, and they likely will get congressional medals of honor !!
Such sh-t !
The only thing Holder is holding is the largest sack of BullShit in the United States.
he be a with-Holder.
workin' for Unca Sham.
jlocke123 - Excellent analogy!!!!
What about cointel pro gang stalking community watch torture.
Lets not forget about the home grown nation wide stazi spy netwotk??/
If your looking for Domestic Terrorists start with the spy programs and the right the wing christian lunatics showing up at town hall meetings.
Dont go after the robots, go after the money men, the fake patriot leadership, thats the head of the domestic terrorists.
The quote should have been: "as attorney general, he has the obligation to follow some of the law." A Holderism.
an inquiry that would be "narrow" in scope, and only find the results that we tell you to find,,,
Holder doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground and he does NOTHING UNLESS he is told to do it by non other than OBAMBAM. Does ANYONE in Washington know we are fighting a "no reason" war? They seem to have forgotten all of our military that are being killed. WHY not put some thought into something that means something, instead of the foolishness they continue to harp on? The president is now a person named OBAMA, NOT BUSH! He has nothing to do with our government now, so forget the past and PLEASE work on our FUTURE, IF WE HAVE ONE.
Hi Dolly -
slightly off topic but a reply to you thoughts.
1. As long as these wars last, the corporate owners of the means of war make big bucks!
2. There are no jobs here in the U.S. for any returning veterans. We need to keep sending unemployed young ones off to fight abroad to take them off the streets at home.
But I could be wrong !
Forget the past? How? Can we untorture those we tortured? Can we unkill the innocent civilians? Can we unrape the sons and daughters of those we wanted information from?
Push it down and it will fester and corrupt us even more.
Look at the people who were part of this nonsense because they weren't put away for Iran/Contra. Look at Negroponte, our Ambassador of Torture to the Americas, then Iraq.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0507-26.htm
Ignore it and it will come back stronger.
Narrow in scope? Thanks for the crumbs.
Apparently, this will be yet-another instance of "a few bad apples" being prosecuted, instead of those at the top who violated the law. If this goes this way, it is unconscionable. Why? Here is one of the main laws that applies:
>>War Crimes Act of 1996 (as amended)
18 U.S.C. § 2441. War crimes
(a) Offense.--Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.--The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such breach or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.--As used in this section the term ‘war crime’ means any conduct--
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non- international armed conflict; or
(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.>>
www2.uakron.edu/low/War%20Crimes%20Act%20of%201996.doc
The War Crimes Act is a very serious law, still in force. Violating it is a very serious felony. Yet Attorney General Holder ignores the crimes that Bush, Cheney and their team have openly admitted committing.
If this narrow "investigation" stands, it means, as Glenn Greenwald has documented so well, that we have a nation where the rule of law does not apply to lawmakers and other high officials. Let's change this!!!
It's good to see the legal statute that has been ignored for so long. Thanks for posting it.
Holder intends to ignore this U.S. law and international law, it seems. It sounds like he'll use John Yoo's definition of what's permissible - anything short of organ failure or death.
What a disappointment from Mr. Chiquita.
-TIA
Sieg Heil!!! Start practicing!
But I could be wrong !
We need probing and prosecution of the biggest crime in human history; the rest will follow suit. It's a red herring, a white elephant, a ticking time bomb. It did, does and will meander through system induced events (shock doctrines) with its trail of indictments. The ferocity of actions and reactions will be linked to the severity of supply declines for the masses.
“Collateral Damage” by E. P Heidner, part I and II.
>>> www.scribd.com/people/documents/2169400-ep-heidner <<<
...a nightmare BEYOND BELIEF.
http://donsiegelman.org/Pages/MAIN/home.html
Why is Eric Holder allowing Gush appointees to stay in place in Alabama where Don Siegelman is only out of jail after a lengthy campaign to get him released on bond while his case is on appeal. Karl Rove still is at large and free to bloviate for dollars on the corporate media, while Siegelman has to battle to prove that he is an innocent victim of a DOJ that became a tool of partisan prosecutions.
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Larisa Alexandrovna Reports on the WH
Politically Motivated Conviction of Gov.
Don Siegelman -- And Rove's Role
Interview by BuzzFlash.com
Rove's dream was to recreate the landscape of the judicial
system, and to install judges that were either pliable, malleable,
and/or very, very pro-corporation. Essentially that is what he did
in Alabama in the early Nineties. That is what this is all about. If
you control the governor in the states where the justices are not
elected, you control who gets on the supreme court. And that's
essentially what this is all about for Rove ultimately. But to get
those kinds of things done, you have to eliminate the governor
you don't want and install the governor you do want. There are
a lot of corporate interests funding this. So it intersects in that
sense. It's buying the law and restructuring the state judiciary.
nore:
http://blog.buzzflash.com/interviews/111
I place my wager on Fitzgerald being "tapped" to lead the investigation-to-nowhere...
Dragging it out over three years, and then bring it to a startlingly anti-climactic conclusion with some subordinate taking the fall for the Big Boys...