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Obama Reverses Stand on Drug Industry Deal
The reversal underscored the delicate balancing act the White House has pursued in its strategy of negotiating behind-the-scenes deals to win industry support without alienating liberal supporters on Capitol Hill.
Supporters of health care reform rally outside the office of U.S. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., in Miami, Friday Aug. 7, 2009. (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky) Pressed by drug industry lobbyists, a White House deputy chief of staff, Jim Messina, confirmed in an e-mail message on Wednesday that the White House shared the drug lobbyists’ interpretation of the deal: that any health care overhaul would not include allowing direct government negotiation of drug prices or require certain additional price rebates. Since Wednesday, other representatives of the White House had also stood by Mr. Messina’s statement as well.
After reading reports about Mr. Messina’s e-mail message, House and Senate Democrats loudly protested that they would not be bound by any such agreement to remove clauses allowing government negotiation of drug prices under Medicare — something Democrats have sought for years.
Several Senate Democrats said Friday that, in a private meeting, White House officials had told them there was no such deal, sowing yet more confusion. House Democratic leaders vowed to fight against it.
Then, after contending for two days that the Senate Democrats had misunderstood the White House aide’s comments, the White House appeared Friday night to back away.
In a telephone interview, Linda Douglass, a White House spokeswoman on health matters, said the question of government drug-price bargaining “was not discussed during the negotiations.” Asked if that meant such a provision was excluded, as the top drug lobbyists had previously said, Ms. Douglass declined to comment, repeating, “It was not discussed.”
White House officials said Friday that Mr. Messina, the deputy chief of staff who sent the e-mail message, had not intended to confirm that the deal ruled out price negotiations.
The drug industry lobbyists appeared to make peace with the White House over the terms the deal as well. The industry had reached an agreement with the White House in June to contribute $80 billion over 10 years to the cost of the health care overhaul but cap its share of the costs at that level. And since striking the deal, the drug industry lobbyists had become a vital and thus powerful White House ally, even helping to bankroll a million-dollar advertising campaign in support of the health care overhaul.
But the industry reacted with alarm when, despite its deal the White House, a House version of the health care measure included both new price rebates and government price negotiations. House leaders talked of trying to extract far more.
As recently as Wednesday, Billy Tauzin, president of the PhRMA, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, had all but threatened to reverse the group’s support for the health care overhaul if the White House did not affirm its commitment to cap the industry’s costs at the agreed-upon $80 billion. He insisted that adding government price negotiations or additional drug price rebates would both violate the agreement, saying each idea had been discussed and discarded in negotiations with the Senate Finance Committee that the White House later approved.
On Friday night, however, the drug industry lobby appeared to line up once again with the White House, perhaps satisfied that the White House had at least ruled out the price rebates in the House bill.
Asked about the White House statements, Ken Johnson, a senior PhRMA official, said, “All of the questions about what was in the agreement distract from our shared goal of making sure everyone has access to health care coverage.”
Several people involved in the negotiations of the original drug industry deal with the White House said there had been some ambiguity in the original discussions, conducted primarily through the Senate Finance Committee, over whether the overhaul might include the government negotiations of drug prices.
Because the Congressional Budget Office has questioned whether government price negotiation would, in fact, save the government or cost the drug industry much money in any event, White House officials might have intended to argue that the $80 billion cap still left room for such a provision.
The full terms of the White House agreement with the drug makers, like a similar deal with the hospital industry, have never been disclosed.
Perhaps capitalizing on his leverage as the political battle heated up over the health care measure, Mr. Tauzin insisted early this week that the deal clearly precluded drug price negotiations as well as any other additional costs. Drug companies have long opposed government price negotiations on the grounds that they would effectively set prices and cripple the industry.
As Mr. Tauzin spoke up, the White House initially chose not to argue. But faced with a chorus of Congressional complaints, the administration appears to have recalibrated its position.
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Show AllObimbo writes his own prescription for hemlock.
LOL. One of your best.
Yet I believe that he would still be re-elected if he could keep his corporate sponsors happy. I fear he has no compunctions about throwing the American people under the bus so I know his snub of big pharma can't be altruism. It must be to kiss the ass of somebody even more important.
Or damage control. Big corporations understand and know all about that as they are doing it all the time. As we all know, it has little effect on what actually happens.
Eighty billion? Chump change for these bastards.
Eighty billion over 10 years, or $8B a year of mythical savings. I read they were going to help fill in the donut hole, but nothing says they don't earn the 80 billion somewhere else, or off of someone else like those 45 million new customers. NYT has a blog on the cost of drug ads, and according to Jerry Avorn, a medical professor at Harvard, that while the entire budget of the Food and Drug Administration runs $2.4B a year, the amount spend on drug advertising is about twice that or $4.8B a year.
Puts an interesting perspective on their pledge to allegedly charge us $8B a year less. Not only that, they write that spending on ads off as a business expense. No wonder the drug ads are ubiquitous, no doubt an important advertising revenue stream for the media, too.
Is not a big part of the "savings" a lessening of price increases?
"The full terms of the White House agreement with the drug makers, like a similar deal with the hospital industry, have never been disclosed." Sounds like Cheney and the energy industry all over again.
He sure sounded like a fighter for the people when he was running for President. I haven't heard a word about Obama's agreement to ban the importation of Canadian drugs, but he acts like a dog on it's back now that he is President.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
"The full terms of the White House agreement with the drug makers, like a similar deal with the hospital industry, have never been disclosed."
Yeah...the "the more transparent WH". Is it not remarkable how the golden rhetoric of a more transparent WH has become fogged up with reality and the desire to please all but those who elected Mr. Obama. Sounds like a tempoarry band-aid to me. Wanna bet the people continue to bleed? Shhhhh! Don't mention single payer. If we keep it out of the discussion. no one will remember...shhhhh!
Kirkpatrick sez: "The reversal underscored the delicate balancing act the White House has pursued in its strategy of negotiating behind-the-scenes deals to win industry support without alienating liberal (sic) supporters on Capitol Hill."
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This is like one doctor who believes a patient's cancer should be left to grow unchecked "negotiating" with another doctor who believes lethal doses of radiation are the answer.
I believe you know who the patient is.
O takes the bishop with his queen.
Inscrutable Eze, please elaborate?
It was his own bishop. (I.e., an own goal)
PRIOR AND INFORMED CONSENT
The right to prior and informed consultation and consent is a principle being fought for by indigenous peoples all over the world. We have more in common than any of us ever tend to think.
To think that the right to information is ignored and "negotiations" on whether or not you even have a right not to subscribe to paying into a health system that excludes aspects of health in order to make a profit is immoral.
Yes, this is something I find quite interesting. Not only will there not be single payer coverage for everyone (or whatever the #*%& it's called), and not only will the insurance companies retain their stronghold, but now everyone who can't afford insurance will be in violation of the law if they don't buy it? And as you said, buy something they know to be corrupt. What will they do if you don't buy, get you a pair of cement boots?
Can u imagine the outright bribing that must be going on? Winning the Presidency is like a huge bazaar where u name ur price and these bastards pay or they get whacked.
Or they name their price and if you don't play you get whacked.
Here is the stunningly simple way to get a form of "single payer": lower the age of eligibility for being insured by Medicare to zero (day of birth)without making it obligatory and adjust the premiums.
Why has our "super-intelligent" president never discovered this?
Only if it becomes the Congressional health care plan.
So by doing business with Billy Tauzin, Obama expects to win LA in 2012? Nice try Obama but you won't even be able to retain whatever you won earlier like this !
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
From 'single payer' to 'single player' Obama has made a deal with the devil and sold the American people down the river the same as Bush did. The only thing we have to fear is our own government.
Ha. I don't know what you all are talking about. Obama's kept his promise of transparency. He doesn't even bother hiding who calls the shots for us. No need to speculate anymore. We keep getting the shaft because all legislation needs an approval from the designated special interests.
Elections, democracy, the will of the people. What a crock of SHIT!
It's really not cool to rub our noses in it, though.
Apparently, Obama's promise to run a "transparent" administration meant "transparently secretive, deceitful, and hypocritical".
By THAT definition, his maladministration is becoming more "transparent" by the day.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Maybe he meant "invisible."
"As recently as Wednesday, Billy Tauzin, president of the PhRMA, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, had all but threatened to reverse the group’s support for the health care overhaul if the White House did not affirm its commitment to cap the industry’s costs at the agreed-upon $80 billion."
Who elected PhrRMA? So what if they don't support the bill? First, the Dems, with their supermajority, tell us they have to compromise with Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans, now PhRMA?
What I truly find distasteful about this entire health care debate is how generally willing people are to buy into the dichotomous rhetoric presented by politicians and when we look behind the curtain, Obama is no New Deal Democrat and is just as quick to supply private insurance companies with golden propositions as any other Rubin flunky. This is irregardless of the hype conservative wonks prattle on about....
AND(!)., Irregardless of all the hype and spin about the evil corporate/lobbyist run "lynch mobs" (Rep Braid[WA]) and/or "Nazis" (Pelosi[CA]) running against the DLC, excuse me, the democratic party, the reality is the democratic party is nothing but a bunch of neo-liberals. Why do we buy the propaganda?!
But, screw the reality that a single-payer, citizen-based health care plan will not come from Obama. To hell with reality. Instead, the left will buy more of the crap and watch the activist-left be co-opted...just like the general election in 2008 and 1992.... and Obama will come out a speechify us to death telling us all we must form a counter-offensive and go to battle protest....what? For your health care insurance, for your economic team? battle for what?
yet what do we get out of it? Seriously. The activist-left would have been better off electing Hillary Clinton. At least we all wouldn't have been such a bunch of dumb fools so quick to buy all the scapegoating and would never been caught making excuses for Obama(Hillary AKA neo-libs) and would never let our guard down...
What activist-left should do is stall the health care bill until we get single-payer, citizen-based...
but that won't happen because shill-edop boards ---like that represented by the left margin of CD front page--- are more than willing to tug the knee-jerk into "war"...and "protest"...for what? universal health "insurance" that's what fight is about. Yep.
neo-libs manipulate new-deal left activist to do the grunt work. tired yet of getting crumbs?
Chuk-it-levi-strauss:
I certainly agree with you on this issue for single payer health care with neo-libs posing as progressives. Same thing goes for the murder machine in the Pentagon.
Now with the Democrats in power, the so-called left is silent on money spent for imperialism and empire, while citizens doing honest work are being shafted. Some change, alright!
Constitutional violations, the trampling of the Bill of Rights by both mainstream parties has already been accepted by the public, yet most are in denial that the country is imploding in more ways than one.
Ignorance is not bliss, but many find relief in it. History is replete with woeful similarities.
please read my comments on the story about obama not releasing
logs. my post name is tell the truth.the post i left there
is terrifying and TRUE. that post undercuts just what is being spoken about here.
the title is the cheney like secrecy of the obama white house.
Obama Reverses Stand on Drug Industry Deal
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I suppose it wouldn't really catch on, but I suggest that reporters and editors-- especially HEADLINE editors-- consider substituting the term "hover" for "stand" when writing about Obama and his maladministration.
What Obama does makes a mockery of the term "stand", except in contexts such as "Obama Stands with Banksters, Hawks, Israel". Or even "Obama Stands with Difficulty After Hoisting Brewski to Heal Racial Divide". Obama merely hovers around positions of convenience; like a hummingbird, his wings beat so fast they can't be seen by the naked brains inside his remaining credulous apologists.
Alternatively, I suppose his ephemeral positions could be characterized as "micro-stands"-- sort of the way a bluebottle fly "stands" on a dungheap. But it's really a matter of the critter doing its business and flitting off to another promising spot, whether it has six legs or two.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Obama Reverses Pose on Drug Industry Deal
Perfect! Nice work.
I see the Pitch Fork isn't just for show.
· Yr Obd't Servant
AC DC?
& DC AC. And probably DA CC as well.
Is Holder still LEANING towards validating torture ?
hOLDER IS BUSY TRYING TO KEEP SIBEL EDMONDS FROM SPILLING THE BEANS. She's been gagged by the FBI, then Ashcroft and on and on since 9/11. She was supposed to testify in Ohio today. Bradlog is on it.
I know that it is difficult but please try to understand, the "COWARD OBAMA" is not in office to do your bidding, he is there to look good, black, smart etc and to maintain the status quo. As the annointed one by big business and the "CHRISTIAN TALIBAN" he is there to placate and appear that he is on you/our side, good actors always do well when faking it! The "COWARD OBAMA" is a born again "FASCIST" the same folk that spawned "HITLER" and that crowd, had "HITLER" not started killing the JEWS we would all be speaking GERMAN. You need to understand how Prescott Bush and company preserved the "FASCIST" game plan and got the party back on track to world domination. Learn how Cuba was badly used, how the mafia entered the picture, how the various people that were on the side of us the AMERICAN citizens were either murdered or discredited etc. Learn a bit about the real "HISTORY" of the last one hundred years. Be prepared to almost kill yourself because of guilt etc, do not do that, instead stand up be counted and counted upon!
Killing Jews was not Hitlers downfall ( the USA sent a ship load of Jewish refugees back to the ovens).
Hitlers downfall was also Napoleons stuck in Russia in winter.
Screw the drug industry. How many votes do they have in Congress? Oops, I forgot. Most of 'em.
Obedient Servant, I laughed at your comment "hover" and then reflected on what Gandhi said.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." Obama's relationship with progressives seems to be in reverse order. Pretty soon he will be just another piece of furniture in the White House. He did it to himself. He could have done so much more. And he's beginning to look like a complete coward.
What I'm curious to see is what the Republicans will dig up to run against Obama (if he's still the nominee) in 2012. If they're smart it will be Crist, but they keep coming up short in the smarts department, especially considering what's left of the Republican Party. And how many progressives will fold again for the "lesser of two evils" as long as it's a Democrat? Actually, between Crist and Obama I think the lesser evil would be Crist.
hopedup, that was an excellent point about PhRMA being an unelected branch of the government. Which goes for the rest of big business. I believe we've just defined fascism.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Be for Kids ----- I enjoyed your reverse order observation.
sounds like the legislation's already been written...
so why do they need "more time"?
nothing to see here folks.
economy... shot.
energy... tabled.
health insurance reform... over.
executive office crimes (previous)... off the table.
sounds like barry & michelle should just go off on few dates and ride out the remainder of the term... beat the pants off hillary... the "unlikliest" of presidents... now it's time to ride off into the history books...
according the treasury's june 09 report on the economy... unemployment at 15.8%... including the under and marginally employed...
nothing left to impress folks with at the water cooler except how much coke billy mays did...
billy tauzin "negotiated" his position at PhARMA... WHILE still employed as a US Representative... while aggressively pushing through medicare part b... payoff to the PhARMA...
NOW... he says... the govt "CAN'T" negotiate... drug prices...??? WTF?
let's do this... the US House of Reps... start wage negotiations with bernie to COME BACK to the House of Reps... while he pushes FOR negotiated drug prices...
seems to me if PhARMA can play the bidding war... why can't congress... congress can start paying off the lobbyists to COME BACK... instead of the lobbyists paying congress to pass the industry's bidding...
let the highest bidder win... seems to me... if ben bernake can write a 12 trillion check to the financial industry... we should be able to out-bid big PhARMA...
This bizarre twist of facts," he said, she said", is like a Preston Sturges screwball comedy about Billy Tauzin, President Obama, big pharma execs, Congress and the insurance industry, entering and exiting those revolving doors and rooms that interlock. Only this is for real and people's lives and health are at stake.
In the 1950's, radio disc jockeys caught taking "payola" from record companies were fired.
Ever since, industry lobbyists have honed their skills so well, they write most of the legislation the politicians vote on without reading these bills because they are too busy meeting with....
fill in the blanks!
The vast majority of citizens want single payer health care. We are not represented in Wash. D.C. anymore, except by a small minority in Congress. Obama is no exception. He plays both ends against the middle very well. Change we can believe in?Undoubtedly not!
Has anyone ever taken notice of how many and how often pharmaceutical advertisements appear on television? The next time you sit down to watch TV, take notice. You'd swear they were the only industry in our country! I'm old enough to remember when the ads for Alka-Seltzer were about the only "drug" ad you'd ever see advertised on TV.
And today, the drug companys always end their commercials with the phrase: "Talk to your doctor about ______ drug." That's just in case your doctor is too dumb to be playing the game! Your asking about a drug by name is the same as telling your doctor which brand of drug you want of those that are available for your medical problem.
You can also be sure doctors are being financially rewarded for prescribing one band of a certain drug over another. There are streams of pharmaceutical salespeople who parade in and out of doctors' offices on a daily basis just to ensure, through monetary promises, the prescription of their company's drugs.
In reality, almost every expensive drug has a much cheaper counterpart that you can just as easily purchase (by asking for it). That's what you should be "talking to your doctor about!!!!"
My father was a pharmacist and he made it a practice of ALWAYS advising a customer if there was a cheaper version of the same drug available (under a different name). He died some years ago but I often wonder what he would think of his industry today. Being the honest man that he was, he would probably be very embarrassed!!!
Frank, interesting observations and I've noticed the same things. A few years ago while waiting to board a flight I struck up a conversation with a doctor, originally from Bangladesh, who has practiced medicine in the US for some 30 years. One of the questions I asked him was what he thought about all of these commercials for medications. He said he didn't like them, that his patients were often coming in doing what the commercials suggested, "asking their doctor about..." trying to get put on medications that the majority of them did not need, for ailments they did not suffer from. I'm also old enough to remember a time when all that was advertised was Alka Seltzer and maybe Tylenol. How is allowing all of these pharmaceutical companies to advertise any better than letting tobacco companies advertise cigarettes? I also find it unbelievable how many people I know take antidepressants on a daily basis. Several years ago one friend, seeing how down I was after the bad breakup of a serious relationship (a natural reaction, I would say), advised me to go to my doctor so she could see how depressed I was, and ask to be put on medication! Instead, I began to exercise more and spent a lot of time writing, which was very therapeutic. Americans are just programmed now to go for the quick fix, provided, of course, that they have insurance to cover the costs.
Thanks for your reply, NMLib --
Your remarks were interesting and you're right - advertising drugs is no different than advertising cigarettes. The response of the doctor from Bangladesh was right on - people want drugs for every little ailment they have or imagine! As you said, people don't want to take the time to deal with their day to day aches, pains, and disappointments through exercise or perhaps counseling. They simply look for a drug that'll make them DISAPPEAR!
NMlib sad but true. Another insidious aspect to the new dr-patient relationship is that the dr becomes no more than a drug pusher. Patients, some whom I know personally, simply shop around for a dr until they find one who will prescribe the drug the patient likes. So now we have dr's competing to please the patient rather than prescribe the medicine patients actually need. Greed and corruption by big pharma and hmo pervert all of these formerly noble medical professionals. The only fix is to remove once and for all time the vaunted profit motive from our healthcare.
The single-payer so-called 'public option' of health and prescription insurance would achieve that objective. It would also deliver healthcare more effectively and more efficiently.
What the WH needs to do is tell Billy Tauzin and his cronies to go f**k themselves!! Now that would be "Change We Could Revel In". Unfortunately its change we will never see.
Our country will never be a democracy until we get rid of lobbiests. We have not been a democracy at least since good ol'ronnie deregulated everything and turned this country over to megacorporations......
YUP!!! 100% Correct, IMHO...
UNLESS and UNTIL we get the MONEY out of politics,
the will of "we the people" will NOT be accurately
represented...
Respectfully,
-gs
-G.S Khalsa
khalsayogi@gmail.com