In Stark Legal Turnaround, Obama Now Resembles Bush
WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama is morphing into George W. Bush, as administration attorneys repeatedly adopt the executive-authority and national-security rationales that their Republican predecessors preferred.
In courtroom battles and freedom-of-information fights from Washington, D.C., to California, Obama's legal arguments repeatedly mirror Bush's: White House turf is to be protected, secrets must be retained and dire warnings are wielded as weapons.
"It's putting up a veritable wall around the White House, and it's so at odds with Obama's campaign commitment to more open government," said Anne Weismann, chief counsel for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a legal watchdog group.
Certainly, some differences exist.
The Obama administration, for instance, has released documents on global warming from the Council on Environmental Quality that the Bush administration sought to suppress. Some questions, such as access to White House visitor logs, remain a work in progress.
On policies that are at the heart of presidential power and prerogatives, however, this administration's legal arguments have blended into the other. The persistence can reflect everything from institutional momentum and a quest for continuity to the clout of career employees.
"There is no question that there are (durable) cultures and mindsets in agencies," Weismann acknowledged.
A courtroom clash Thursday illustrated how Obama has come to emulate Bush.
Weismann's organization sued last year to obtain the notes from an interview that the FBI conducted with then-Vice President Dick Cheney. The interview was part of an investigation into leaks concerning undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame, and the Bush administration vigorously fought the release of the notes.
"The records contain descriptions of confidential deliberations among top White House officials which are protected by the deliberative process and presidential communications privileges," Bush's Justice Department argued in an Oct. 10, 2008, legal brief.
Obama's Justice Department held the same line Thursday.
"The new leadership of the department supports those arguments," Justice Department attorney Jeffrey Smith told U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan during the oral argument. "The Department of Justice is an ongoing entity, and it is not normal for us to update cases simply because we have a new attorney general."
Perspectives, of course, often change once candidates assume responsibility upon taking office. As a candidate, for instance, Obama opposed the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman.
As president, however, he's following Bush's lead in defending in court the federal marriage law, which a California same-sex couple is challenging.
The law "reflects a cautiously limited response to society's still-evolving understanding of the institution of marriage," Assistant Attorney General Tony West declared in a legal filing June 11.
Legally speaking, every administration inherits lawsuits filed against its predecessor. The Solicitor General's Office, which represents the government in appeals, traditionally tries to hold a steady course. Personnel, too, stick around. John Brennan, the CIA director's chief of staff during the Bush administration, is now closely advising Obama as a senior National Security Council staffer.
Whatever the reasons, policy persists.
The Bush White House sought to keep e-mails secret. The Obama White House has followed suit. The Bush White House sought to keep visitor logs secret. The Obama White House, so far, takes the same view.
Petaluma, Calif., resident Carolyn Jewel and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a legal activist group, sued the Bush administration over warrantless wiretaps. The Bush administration said that the lawsuit endangered national security. The Obama administration now agrees.
"The disclosure of the information implicated by this case, which concerns how the United States seeks to detect and prevent terrorist attacks, would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security," Acting Assistant Attorney General Michael F. Hertz declared in a brief April 3.
Similarly, the Bush administration objected to an American Civil Liberties Union request for access to documents that include photographs that reportedly show the abuse of foreign prisoners held by the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Obama administration declared in April that it would release the photographs.
Three weeks later, Obama reversed course and declared that "releasing them, I believe, would be to further inflame anti-American opinion and to put our troops in greater danger." The administration's attorneys followed up with a legal brief, augmented by a 24-page declaration that CIA Director Leon Panetta filed June 9.
"Information containing details of the (interrogation techniques) being applied would provide ready-made ammunition for al Qaida propaganda," Panetta declared. "The resultant damage to the national security would likely be exceptionally grave."
In an interview, ACLU attorney Amrit Singh said that "the trend, as it is now, is disappointing" as Obama follows the Bush lead. The Obama administration now will appeal to the Supreme Court in an effort to keep the photos and related information secret.
On the opposite coast, a similar drama is playing out in a clash over so-called "torture flights."
An ACLU lawsuit, initially filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Calif., contends that the Boeing subsidiary Jeppesen DataPlan knowingly supported a CIA operation that flew terrorism suspects to brutal overseas prisons. The Bush administration invoked the "state secrets" privilege in an effort to stop the suit.
"Further litigation of this case would pose an unacceptable risk of disclosure of information that the nation's security requires not be disclosed," the Bush administration declared in a legal filing on Oct. 18, 2007.
The Obama administration now says the same, after a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled April 21 that the case could proceed.
"Permitting this suit to proceed would pose an unacceptable risk to national security," the Obama administration declared in a legal filing June 12.
For both arguments, the two administrations relied on the attestations of the same man: former Bush CIA Director Michael Hayden.
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Show AllLet us be thankful for small favors and overdue recognitions, but not satisfied.
And let's try to be precise. If Obama allows some documents to come to light and not others, it clearly does not mean he favors transparency. It likely does mean that the airing of certain documents helps him, whereas the airing of more does not. That is not weakness, not in the usual sense: it's malice aforethought.
Given that the previous administration hurt its ostensible constituency more than most, Obama has a motive to allow some information to surface. Given that his own party was deeply complicit, his motive to maintain most secrets dominates his policy.
If we have a friend in the White House, she's probably cleaning the toilet or trimming the lawn.
Mr. Obama is a weak leader who can speak well.
So you got suckered again. Will you ever learn. Methinks not.
Bring America Back !!!!...........This article is exactly why Obama is only a one-term Prez wonder.
**He's abandoned even the most basic of His campaign rhetoric, tantamount to proving He was always lying to his constituents--never having any intention of keeping his promises of Change, Hope, Promise, Inspiration.
**Now that we know this, it is up to us to make sure he does not do it to us for eight (8) years==just the four he scammed his way into.
**The old saying certainly applies to Barak Obama==Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
**Instead of challenging and changing the Wash DC Culture of Corruption, Barak Obama has been absorbed and taken in by it. The good part is it only took five months to find this out!
Where is our Progressive Candidate that we can start grooming for the 2012 Presidency ??????
If the election (and he really won it too) of Obama does not finally prove to even the 'dumbest' american that they have never had a 'democracy' but a 'Plutocratic Oligarchy'----from the beginning----and they must change that reality NOW----then my often repeated 'mantra'----that 'the USA is doomed to failure except as a negative example to history'----will most assuredly come to pass----------
As for me and my people,
America; We will ride our horses through your empty cities----and you will have emptied them.
Good Luck america, you really need it.
obama has morphed into golem. these are precious! precious! precious! i will not i will
not! let go! must keep! must keep! dig? when he found out the temporary way to play
god there is no way he is going to let go and the congress and senate don't give a f--k
as long as their getting theirs! he's a smart guy though spiritually bankrupt and he
ain't gonna give it unless like he says we make him! when we fear they win! when
they fear we win! simple as that. time to shine the light of day on golem!
0 sez "make me".
classic schoolyard taunt.
"I don't make trash; I burn it!"
classic schoolyard response
· Yr Obd't Servant
You know you need to be afraid of Obama's decisions and wake up from his hypnotism, when Ann Coulter speaks of supporting his policies.
We have no two party system. We have the Warburg/Rockefeller/Rothschild military strife based CFR party clogging the venues for true political leaders.
I wonder which voices Mr. Obama is listening to so intently that he has abdicated his promises to repudiate Mr. Bush's keeping of secrets.
The "evidence" our intelligence services acquired about Iraq's WMD had to be kept a secret so that we the people couldn't figure out the truth.
We know the voices Mr. Bush listened to: Ms. Condoleeza Rice, Mr. Dick Cheney, Mr. Donald Rumsfeld, Mr. Powell, Mr. Karl Rove and Mr. Paul Wolfowitz (and their minions, I Lewis Libby, Ari Fleischer, John Ashcroft, Richard Perle, Kenneth Adelman, Mr. Zalmay Khalilzad, Douglas Feith and James Woolsey) [and probably Bill Pryor]. We know they based their thinking on misinformation provided by tortured suspects and paid informers.
These are horrible human beings, they are cut from the same cloth as the terrorists we call our enemies. Their ideologies and methods are mirror images of one another which include, religious intolerance, lies, propaganda, war, and torture. Theirs are the voices that will turn us against Mr. Obama if he listens to them. Who are the people who have our President's ear? Who tells him to bomb which Afghanistan targets?
Bribed treasonous betrayers of "the enemy"?
Save ink on future articles--Obama's politics and Bush's are the same. One is more belligerent, style wise, than the other.
Obama Mirrors Bush on Secrecy
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Keep an eye on the next Radio & TV Correspondents dinner, which has featured such stellar acts as Karl Rove and David Gregory "rapping".
Would anyone be surprised if one of the acts was George W. Bush and Barack Obama, in top hats, tails, and canes, performing a classic Nicholas Brothers rendition of "Me and My Shadow"?
OK, it probably WON'T happen, but it could. And if it DID, the corporate media would gush like Old Faithful and revel in its wonderfulness.
· Yr Obd't Servant
One item that was omitted was Obama's willingness to parrot all the talking points given him by AIPAC. Every time he talks about Iran, both he and Admiral Mullin start making statements about the Iranian nuclear weapon program, even though our own CIA, Russians and UN Inspectors say there is no proof that the Iranians are attempting to build any nukes. On top of all this, the head of the Israeli Mossad was quoted in Haaretz June 17 "Iran Will Have Nuclear Bomb by 2014". This most recent information has been censored from all newspapers in the US. AIPAC and their enablers in Congress and our own President have been scaring the Hell out of the US public for years with false intell about how close the Iranians are to building a nuke and we need to "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran".
One item that was omitted was Obama's willingness to parrot all the talking points given him by AIPAC. Every time he talks about Iran, both he and Admiral Mullin start making statements about the Iranian nuclear weapon program, even though our own CIA, Russians and UN Inspectors say there is no proof that the Iranians are attempting to build any nukes. On top of all this, the head of the Israeli Mossad was quoted in Haaretz June 17 "Iran Will Have Nuclear Bomb by 2014". This most recent information has been censored from all newspapers in the US. AIPAC and their enablers in Congress and our own President have been scaring the Hell out of the US public for years with false intell about how close the Iranians are to building a nuke and we need to "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran".
Transparency and accountability in government are essential for a free society. When government acts illegally, wraps itself in executive secrecy and shreds the evidence of it's criminality, then we are no longer living in a free society, we are living under a totalitarian regime.
Obama, in some ways, is more dangerous than Bush because he is able to sweet talk a nation of gullible hopefuls into buying the regimes propaganda. Not only that he is now able to get Congress to actually legitimize the criminality with their continuous unquestioning approval.
there's no way in hell any POTUS is going to voluntarily "give up" any power acquired by their predecessors. and if POTUS did just "give it up," he or his successor could & would take those powers back up again.
a cowardly complicit congress is as culpable as POTUS.
What happened to the wisdom of old? Oh, I forgot, we have no use for our elders.
I remember lines such as, "You can't trust him. He's too charming" and "Never trust a fast talking man".
But as P.T. Barnum said, "A new sucker is born every minute".
I think the corporatocracy has it figured out. The public won't do anything until there's nothing left to steal, and then they will riot, get shot and locked up in the "detention centers" that are waiting and the rest of the wage slaves will shut up.
Or, we can start a new movement, the Main Street Party and take back what's left of our democracy. Pass the Ni4D, pass a slew of much needed citizen rights laws, tax the corporations into shells of their former selves and cap just how much wealth any individual can own through taxation. You know, like the good old days. Return our country to one of small businesses, small farms and this time, an educated, informed citizenry which presently we are not.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
You left out one I've been repeating for more than a year: Handsome is as handsome does.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Man alive, McClatchy tells it like it is!
From The Who: oh yes we WILL be fooled again.
Yes, they can have all their "Secrets," as they call them but there is not even one thing hidden from the God of Israel & of all Creation, nor Jesus. They are always naked before the God of Israel & of all creation.
There are stories from within Tribes of this land that Jesus lived with them long long long ago before the Europeans arrived. Even in the book of the Mormons they state he lived with Tribes in this land. Jesus's name in paradoxical animal symbology being the Lion of Judah as he was born of the Tribe of Judah.
One of my friends of European Heritage studies all of our Native prophecies he can find as well as the prophecies of all other people's he can find. I would doubt there are all that many human beings who know exactly how much prophecy has already been fulfilled upon the earth at this given time, but many are putting things together & at least getting their minds & hearts back on Jesus, & away from this world.
Life is good. Weird, strange, & bizzare, too. Just another day of my journey through this world being completed one way or the other. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
"God of Israel & of all Creation"
Would that be the same god who is reported to have been engaged with his "chosen people" in Zionist real estate transactions? If so, I must admit to less than total faith in his impartial judgements of right and wrong.
Yes, the God of Israel, & of all Creation, or The Father, as Jesus came teaching his Father's Spritual Kingdom that is not of the world of man, this world. Current Israel fits into the prophecy of the Two Witnesses who appear in Jerusalem to begin their days of Prophecy against this world. All of Jesus's warnings to this world were against this world.
There are Torah based Jews who do not believe Israel should not be a Nation because they were sent into exhile for their disobiedence towards God.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Only the God of all Creation if you're a Jew, Christian or a Muslim. As for the rest of the world, he/she/it doesn't exist. There are MILLIONS of Hindu who have their own God of all Creation, as an example. Who's to say that their God isn't the REAL God of all Creation???
'Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.' - Pete Townsend
I WONDER
I wonder at all the diverse comments, ideas, personalities that come out here on CD.
I wonder if it is from a particular segment of the population, old, young, school of hard knocks, college or just blasé’ ordinary people with a desire and a yen for a fair life for all and not just for themselves?
I wonder at the amount of times that we sign petitions, call our political representatives, write letters to them and to an editor of the MSM trying to get them to do what is right for the majority of people.
I wonder if it makes any difference? Don’t think so.
I wonder what would be critical mass for them to pay attention to the people instead of the money?
I wonder if there are enough CD’ers to start something, anything without money because we cannot compete in that race.
I wonder if the will is there as much as the intelligence that is shown here daily?
I wonder if it would be better to do just as Jesus said in Luke 21 that all these wars, rumors of wars, turmoil’s and all the ugly things that are going on these days; he said don’t sweat it because it is written in the big book of life and it will happen so don’t worry.
I wonder about the time and a half times and the Maya time of the end: 2012 and the Hopi prophecies and other Native American ones also.
I wonder if loving God with all your heart and soul and everyone else as much as yourself would be enough to do while on this planet as in the end each one of us will answer for ourselves.
Tony 6/20/2009
Yes the Hopi prophecies state this land pretty much being burned off the face of the earth by man made fire that became a possible reality in the 1940's. That propehcy is very simular to Mystery Babylon that is an utter abomination before God. Mystery Babylon is the possible key that builds the globalist system of the Beast of Revelation as many Beast Kingdoms are listed. God has already cast his judgment upon any who worship the Beast & the Image of the Beast.
God judges the human race, but it Jesus who executes that judgment as he is in agreement with the Father on all things. The Final Judgment one either receives the forgiveness of the Lamb or the Wrath of the Lion.
Those who come to understand The Beast, a Beast Kingdom, or Mystery Babylon turn their hearts away spiritually away from any love, worship, or adoration of any of them, and Spiriutally Reject this world for themselves.
Those who have woken up know not to worry about these things happening upon the earth as all these things have been foretold by, Jesus, & the Prophets of many peoples in many lands.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
"[H]e said don’t sweat it because it is written in the big book of life and it will happen so don’t worry."
You mean as in following the advice that, when rape is inevitable, one should just lie back and take it? I kinda thought that's what most of the public had been doing all along.
Although that is one of the things Jesus is reported to have said, it is also reported that he drove the money changers out of the temple. Should we also be influenced by that biblical example?
I didn't say it he did and also said love your enemies?Tony
Yes, Jesus taught to love your friends, & to love your enemies. Forgive & you will be forgiven.
It's okay to love 'em, but permitting them to continue their evil ways with the public's electoral endorsement is another matter.
I understand that the bible is full of fine sentiments and even some pretty good moral philosophy, and I understand also the search and desire for such guidance. As with life in general, however, it's both necessary and wise to be selective in accordandance with the prevailing circumstances. Jesus certainly was if various subsequent reporting can be believed.
Even Gandhi, with his staunch faith in "passive resistance", took actions that had some real impacts on the contemporary forces that he and his compatriots actually opposed, some of which, it must be remembered, landed him in jail. He didn't allow himself to be restricted to "working within the system" set forth by those opponents. And he certainly didn't just accept the inevitability of "the book" in which his country's destiny was written at that time.
Whatever actions Ghandi took were,still by their very nature passive and Jesus when he stopped the stoning of the lady told the stoners that if they were without sin throw your rocks but none did and also in Luke 21 he says when he comes back (reincarnation) the sinners are going to pay big time.I have no intention of laying down and taking it and as I've gotten older the Prophets and Psalms is all I read it helps me think but why did you just stick to that part?Tony
Probably my own fault, but I don't understand your question. If by asking why I just stick to "that part" you mean Prophets and Psalms, I don't rely on that alone. In fact my only biblical reference (Jesus and the money changers) is from the New Testament.
In any case, I was simply pointing out that real rebels (biblical or otherwise) seldom permit themselves to be limited by systems and rules established by their oppressors and aren't always as meek and mild as some of their present day societal castration interpretors would like you to believe.
Loving one's neighbor is an admirable quality. But timidity and withdrawal in the face of oppression and injustice isn't love. It's cowardice.
Jesus was not timid or withdrawn and yet he paid the ultimate price for his conviction that he would not harm or kill another human and that is not cowardice.Tony
Jesus was not timid or withdrawn and yet he paid the ultimate price for his convictions that he would not harm or kill another human and that is not cowardice.Tony
Don't kid yourselves--this was a slick trick--bush f#@^ed-up--and nobody was going for it--then they send in Colin II--he fools the people into beliving he's for changing all this w bullshit--you elect him and it ALL continues while you smile at how well the system works--and the nation continues to spiral downwards to hell--For how long it took us to get it--it proves we deserve the worst it can get--I'm leaving this political sesspool.Bye Bye.
Obama, at the time of purchase, seemed like a good deal. Somebody must have said, "Keep the change."
With policies and lack of follow through on other policies, Obama's popularity due to his charisma will run out. The public will tire of speeches without results. Not only will he have the Republicans attacking him and the Democratic party, progressives will also be joining in.
Which will accomplish what exactly? Another in the series of red/blue facade shifts within the same old paid sponsorship system of governance? Who will be the next perceived "lesser evil" savior of the popular will?
Charlie Crist looks like a good choice for 2012. The public should be looking for a new savior by then and he's definitely a no rock the boat guy.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
I think people are starting to wake up that the solution is in forming a new progressive party that is not corrupted, but who can elect people like Bernie Sanders to political office. I know that people are becoming cynicial as we have been lied to so many times before and played the fool because we trusted them, but I think we have to find the courage and strength inside to make one last stand to save this nation from the destructive path we are on and have been on for many years.
I know pollyanna, but if one doesn't keep hope alive than they just give up the fight. I won't just give up, but have to keep believing that somehow someway we will find a way to overcome.
"if one doesn't keep hope alive . . . "
with respect, you don't need hope, just conviction.
Please don't think that I'm advocating surrender. I'm only suggesting that there is a need to examine and deal with the current problem at its roots. That may also entail re-examining and even abandoning some strategies and tactics that have repeatedly proven themselves to be utterly ineffectual, but it does NOT equate to giving up. Quite the contrary.
As I see it, the difficulty with a new and truly "progressive" party is not its creation so much as its realistic practicality under the current system whereby electability is so heavily dependent on support from the very corporate financial interests who are most strongly opposed to any such challenge.
So long as that "paid sponsorship" system remains dominant throughout the U.S. political structure and all of its attendant processes (mass media exposure, etc., etc.) the struggle, if not utterly impossible, will be an extremely difficult one. For that reason, it seems to me, the initial efforts need to be directed at changing the system itself. But I'll readily admit that I'm pessimistic in that area as well.
RV, don't be so negative. The fact is there is nothing stopping people from working within the system and outside the system to try and cause change.
True enough, people are free to work within the system for change; but if you honestly think results for change of an order of magnitude necessary will arise, I would invite you to ponder The Myth of Sisyphus. A story which may tell you why your beliefs are disempowered from the get-go.
Of course there's nothing stopping people from trying either or both, but I see few signs of success and, even worse, scant recognition or willingness to address the real roots of the problem. You can regard that as "negativism" if you wish, but you'd be much more likely to change my mind with a single example of any significant recent acheivement either "within the system" or beyond it.
Rightly or wrongly, I don't regard even the awareness level here as being typical. In fact, if you believe recent polling, 63% think Obama is doing just fine.
Obama Now Resembles Bush?!
Presuming the resemblance refers to his U.S. presidential policies and activities, either domestic or foreign, this seems like long overdue recognition. Jeez, will USAns ever wake up to the fact that it has nothing whatever to do with individual personalities, much less with the wishes of ordinary citizens.
It's really quite uncomplicated. In fact, nothing could be more obvious or straightforward. Under the U.S. political system, the electability of any party or individual is very largely determined by the financial support of corporate interests -- a "right" that is guaranteed to corporations by their judicially awarded legal personhood along with their singular fiduciary responsibility for maximizing their own profits.
Thus, as with virtually all other aspects of life today, paid sponsorship, rather than the will of "the people", calls the tune for the entire U.S. political system and will continue to do so as long as the current status of corporate involvement remains in place.
Everything else is mere corollary, including all of the consequential public indoctrination and propaganda to persuade people that this paid representation system constitutes "the greatest democracy on earth" and that it is worthy, not only of defence at home, but of global export to inferior nations (i.e., all others) by force of arms if necessary.
Arguments about which particular corporate interests have the greatest sponsorship influence with which of the parties are both futile and irrelevant to the main issue. In fact, the most important corollary is that switching from one sponsored politician to another, regardless of the party facades, alters nothing of importance in that broader context.
Only a radical change to the system itself can give meaningful democratic substance to the role of the human electorate as opposed to corporate sponsorship. Whether any such change to dollar dominance of the U.S. political process is actually possible and, if so, how to achieve it is for the U.S. citizenry to decide.
Please note carefully a very important distinction between capitalism in the marketplace and corporate financial dominance of a nation's political system. This comment is NOT an argument about the former, neither for nor against. It does, on the other hand, invite consideration of whether the latter is consistent with truely democratic governance ("of, by and for the people") anywhere.
The answer would seem to be self-evident. In any case, no one should be surprised or shocked by the results. The fact that some are and continue to be despite many repetitions is, on the other hand, both shocking and astounding.
"The fact that some are and continue to be despite many repetitions is, on the other hand, both shocking and astounding." RV your opinion is well written and thought out. What is surprising is that you are shocked and astounded. I don't know but maybe its because you want to believe in the system. Do we need to think about a radical change to the system or do we need to think about a entirely new system?
I think perhaps you've misread my final sentence. I was NOT expressing belief in the current system. To the contrary, I was expressing dismay about the number of people who apparently continue to believe that they can accomplish their desired ends by working within that existing system and its multi-colored facades as it now stands.
Whether eliminating corporate financial dominance of the U.S. political system and thereby achieving truely democratic governance "of, by and for the people" is regarded as a radical change or as an entirely new system is, I suppose, largely a matter of semantic preference. Perhaps I was trying not to frighten people by sounding too revolutionary, but I'll certainly accept either mode of expression.
I've been thinking along the same lines for some time. Obama haters are a dime a dozen now across every faction and spectrum of thinking. Thing is, Obama isn't the answer to our problems and he never was. We knew that from the get-go (or we should have). Its too much to ask of one person who finds himself mired in our evolved system of democracy (evolution does not always, in fact rarely, favors the masses). There is little "hope" to be had until that system changes and only we can do that. We can't expect one person to change the country for us. Its illogical...and lazy.
Someone said earlier, and since its not in front of me I'm paraphrasing, "We will put up with the Corporatocracy until there is nothing left to steal." That's a great statement. I look at Obama as a possible gateway to a solution, not the solution itself. I think the key is to see how he prods delivery on a reformed healthcare system. Whether our troops come home from the middle east and how soon. How we treat the rest of the world in regards to our foreign policy during his tenure. How well we hold ourselves (and those responsible) for our own atrocities and that we discontinue those processes and adopt more civilized systems for our "national security". I can't, personally, hold him singularly responsible for an upheaval of the system. That's not his job (though it would be nice if he did/could). His job is to stabilize and return some sense of morality to a system that is broken. If that's true, then whose job is it to change it?
the truth would endanger national security.
it seems only lies can keep america safe.
Secrets, lots of secrest, and the Democrats are as involved as the Repbulicans.
Here is a secret for you,
The Internatioal Association of Fire Fighters and EMS personal has been recruited globally by all countrys to head and organize all community watch groups around the world.Also , you can throw in right wing religous demostic nut jobs from cooperating churchs. Because , righteous christians with no agenda and can be trusted.By the way, they and thier leaders are the meanest of this gang stalking torture bunch of freaks.
Now you know why the Republicans were so desperate to keep the white house, because the right wing necon god loving torture network was afraid of exposure.
Thats right , a global stazi police to follow all suspects 24/7.
By the way, if they dont have any terrorists suspects, they create them.
They use slander and lies , and fabricate evidence from your phone calls by using digital editing.If they have to , they will frame.
They use NSL letters to search your home and interagate your nieghbors, fellow workers , or any place you visit and do business.
If you are innocent, but know they are on you, they will drive you crazy so that if you complain to any one , you will be labeled delusional. This is a sick bunch of humans, nothing christian about them.
Then everyone is sworn to secreacy , if you talk ,you get a 5 year jail sentence.
So everyone you know thinks you are poisen.
Now, where is the probable cause, where is the accountabilty,
if these people screw up your life, you can not identify or sue any of them.
They have been given immunity by our greedy and evil politicians.
Until these freaks start accunsing each other , creating internal wars between county juristictions or state juristications , this treasonous cancer will grow.
And its all about the money and control, not security.
I know they read my blogs, so here is something for you gang stalking IAFF EMS torture freaks who hide behind God or Jesus. You are destroying our contrys freedoms from the inside, but you cant see that becuause you are too busy playing God and super hero. How dare you use poor , hadicaped, uneducated people to do your dirty work of gang stalking torture. Do you think you are helping them by giving tham a false sense in importance????
You and your trainers , organizers and leaders , disgust me.
But hey, there is always Karma.
Poem.
I aint no James Bond Wanna be,
I aint no goverment spy,
I dont have a license to kill,
I just want to live free or die.
BornFreeMen
Gang stalking torutre victim of Community watch right wing domestic terrorists.
"the trend, as it is now, is disappointing"
understatement.