Castro is right. This is very fishy. And anyway, I thought the Obama administration is looking forward, not back, right? Or is that just for torture, murder, and lying to start wars? But I still have to wonder why Obama let the Israeli spies go free.

And I have to wonder why the Obama people dropped the corruption charges against Senator Ted Stevens (R) of Alaska because of prosecutorial misconduct, but continue to prosecute Gov. Don Siegelmann (D) of Alabama despite absolutely flagrant prosecutorial misconduct as well as judicial corruption.

Bring America Back !!!!.......Yes, per petrkrop post below, this smells to high heaven !

***The Dept of Justice just dropped a lawsuit against two spies from the American Israeli Political Action Committee, AIPAC, even when they had direct evidence US Rep Jane Harman was intending to intercede with a heavy hand, on behalf of the spies, to get the case dropped !! So, of course, the case was dropped. Funny about that !

***FBI Agents are plenty on record, bith anonymous and otherwise, that if they uncover and document Israeli spy activities on the US, that they better not report or record it for prosecution, inasmuch as their federal careers would take a downturn for the worse. If they do'nt ignore Israeli espionage, likely their next assignments would be to the North Pole trackihg wayward Toyshop Elves !

***It is well documented that the worst cases of damaging spying and treasonous espionage against the USA has been from our little sister Israel who has somehow earned this pass against prosecution.

***On Sept 11, 2001, Israeli Mossad spies were on the Jersey side of the NY Hudson river, partying, celebrating, singing, and dancing==taking pictures of the burning, smoking and smoldering World Trade Center Twin Towers in the background. Simultaneously within those Towers, 3000 innocent human lives were being taken.

*More than two of those agents failed lie detector exams at the Counterintelligence Div. of FBI. They were operating out of a van connected to an undercover Moving Company. Those agents were released back to their Homeland Israel and the Moving Company failed to exist after that. NO prosecutions, no serious investigations==even after the mother of all attacks on US Soil ! Funny, ain't it !

***Using the 'cui bono' strategy in this Cuba instance,==who exactly benefits from keeping Castro's Cuba as blockaded, economically shunned enemies, instead of finally having a friendly-cooperative nation 90 miles off our shoreline ??????? Esp since the OAS relaxed sanctions on Cuba, and overtures of a US__New Deal were bearing fruit.

Is Fidel correct thinking this is strange timing since the FBI had these "Spys" on a string for years and years--and since we've had a major Naval Base on their Island for probably more years. How much theat could there really be?

And, the fact that FBI are heavily handed involved in all these transactions smells just as badly. "Cui Bono" ???? FBI has requested 6000 more Agents be given them as part and parcel of the Neocons Homeland Security Dept !!! 6000 ! So if they don't have 'ol Fidel to kick around any more, would that mean they only need 5000 more of the KIng's jack daddys ??

***As Dennis Kucinich screamed at the Demmy Convention: WAKE UP AMERICA !!!

petrkrop ,

Good post, and what did Sen. Ted Stevens get charged for, specifically, at first, and what's Gov. Don Siegelmann being prosecuted for?

As for Fidel Castro being right, I agree, but also think he should've spoken in softer, lighter terms with respect to the OAS vote. His words strike me as having been a little to sharp, like mocking the U.S. for it's decades of hegemony, hypocrisy, etcetera, towards the Cuban government. I'd recommend to him and any other leader, even if he's not officially Cuban President any longer, that they not speak in mocking terms about past U.S. conduct when or if ever a new U.S. presidency starts to speak like he or she will seriously consider ceasing past U.S. wrongs. Why tempt the most rogue government on Earth when it's also the superpower, imperialist, etcetera, and nothing is changing about these aspects in any time that's soon enough?.

As for the OAS; what is it? Is it truly a legitimate, honest, ... organisation; or is it another that's awfully associated with or even part of the most rogue government on Earth? If the latter, then the OAS's vote may have possibly been a stage act; or the heads (or some of the heads) of the organisation didn't intend for a positive, constructive vote to have any real weight, only allowing members to vote while thinking that their votes would be respected.

I'll excerpt from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_American_States

EXCERPT:

History

...

The Ninth International Conference of American States was held in Bogotá between March and May 1948 and led by United States Secretary of State George Marshall, a meeting which led to a pledge by members to fight communism in America. This was the event that saw the birth of the OAS as it stands today, with the signature by 21 American countries of the Charter of the Organization of American States on 30 April 1948 (in effect since December 1951). The meeting also adopted the American Declaration of the Rights and Duties of Man, the world's first general human rights instrument.

The transition from the Pan American Union to OAS was smooth. The Director General of the former, Alberto Lleras Camargo, became the Organization's first Secretary General. The current Secretary General is former Chilean foreign minister José Miguel Insulza.

...

Goals and purpose

n the words of Article 1 of the Charter, the goal of the member nations in creating the OAS was "to achieve an order of peace and justice, to promote their solidarity, to strengthen their collaboration, and to defend their sovereignty, their territorial integrity, and their independence." Article 2 then defines eight essential purposes:

* To strengthen the peace and security of the continent.

* To promote and consolidate representative democracy, with due respect for the principle of nonintervention.

* To prevent possible causes of difficulties and to ensure the pacific settlement of disputes that may arise among the member states.

...

Over the course of the 1990s, with the end of the Cold War, the return to democracy in Latin America, and the thrust toward globalization, the OAS made major efforts to reinvent itself to fit the new context. Its stated priorities now include the following:

* Strengthening democracy: ....

* Working for peace: ...

END OF EXCERPT

The OAS seems too much like the UN and UNSC, and we should all know by now that the UNGA is always or nearly always disregarded by the UNSC, of which the west's imperialist, colonialist, ... state members that are permanent members rule and overrule as the rogues that they are in the UNSC (and UN).

Well, the USA has definitely not been living up to its oath of membership; the USA has LONG been doing the opposite, only pretending to be an honest member. It's the same with the U.S. in the UN and UNSC; always rogue as hell.

Strengthening democracy and working for peace; the USA? People have to be darkly joking when describing the USA in such terms; the U.S. government and its ruling elites, anyway. So, HELL NO! Never! Only on paper, are the U.S. government and its ruling elites interested in saying they're for democracy, peace, justice, ...; only on paper! Like the U.S. Constitution, of which Pres. GW Bush said that "it's just a piece of paper"; and, according to John Stockwell, a former CIA agent of 13 years, Pres. R. Reagan said the same thing. The page or index for John Stockwell at ThirdWorldTraveler.com has a link to the short article in which he describes some striking and dark things about the Pres. Reagan administration.

President (former) Fidel Castro should know better than to believe that the U.S. government would respect any good votes by the OAS.

Quoting from the article:

"Though the U.S. ultimately supported the OAS vote Wednesday, the administration of President Barack Obama initially wanted to see more democratic reforms on the communist island before Cuba was readmitted."

LIKE said in my first post in this CD page, we're witnessing only more U.S. hypocrisy, hegemony, ... again, and it always involves LIES of the U.S. "elites", of course.

Obama's being a fiend hypocrite again. His administration doesn't respect real democracy, justice, peace; his administration has very nearly only demonstrated the opposite, dark opposite. If his administration [respected] real democracy, peace, etcetera, then we'd see a number of constructive changes of serious and great importance taking place; but we're not getting these changes and they are not planned for us, by the ruling "elites".

We get a lot of words from the mouths of Obama et al, but these are all [empty], bogus, and he knows damn well he's full of lies, ... and no truly righteous, good intentions. He knows he's a "player for the boys", the "elites"; that he's their "star quarterback" right now.

The article says:

"The U.S. government says they had been spying for Havana for 30 years, recruited by Cuba after a 1978 trip there. Myers received his orders by Morse code, and he and his wife usually hand-delivered intelligence, sometimes by exchanging carts in a grocery store, according to court documents."

COMICAL!

However, how is it the U.S. would have known that this woman, if she had been really working as a spy for Cuba in the USA, delivered intell. on or about the U.S. to the Cuban government by "exchanging carts in a grocery store", or by hand-delivering it, which I suppose is to be understood as meaning that it was hand-delivered to a Cuban government office of one kind or another, or to a Cuban government official, a known one?

How could the U.S. have known these things if the U.S. didn't have spies operating in Cuban grocery stores or following this woman around as she traveled around Cuba, which would mean, either way, the U.S. had one or more spies working for it in Cuba?

Well, I guess we can understand this as inherently meaning that the U.S. government has now and possibly (or surely?) again admitted that it had spy operations in Cuba. But the question remains of whether or not this woman accused of spying for Cuba in the U.S. really did this, or not? The U.S. leadership is full of pathological liars, so this could be another of their many, many, unceasing lies; but maybe they're saying the truth, as rarely as this happens with the U.S. "elites". They're likely lying, but maybe there's some possibility that they're telling the truth.

However, why would the Fidel Castro government want spies in the USA working for the Cuban government? I don't see why he'd want this. That he and other countries would like to have and many do have diplomats located in the U.S., officially known to be there and accepted by the U.S. government; now I can believe that he would have wanted to also have this. But to have spies in the U.S.? Maybe he did want this too, but I doubt it.

Anyway, it certainly seems that we now have solid confirmation from the U.S. government that it has spies in Cuba, where there is no justification for the presence of any U.S. spying activity, at all!

But it's the rogue superpower's way ... globally. It's long been its way, and the ruling "elites" of this superpower aren't satisified with having more than enough and being mass murderers, etcetera, yet. Their lusts are insatiable.

EDIT:

Conversely, the exchanges of intell. could've hypothetically happened within the USA, in grocery stores in the U.S., or at offices or homes of Cuban diplomats in the U.S. The U.S. would've still been spying on her daily activities, but at least this wouldn't have been occuring in Cuba.

Why the U.S. would want to spy on members of the OAS when they're in the U.S., or on Cubans known to be associated in good terms with the Cuban government and while they're in the U.S., though; now this'd just be more U.S. hegemony, and so on. There's certainly no need or justification for the world's rogue superpower to be worried in terms of national security when it comes to members of an organisation like the OAS. That the U.S. "elites" are worried about U.S. "national interests", which only reflect the interests of the ruling "elites" located within the USA, for they certainly aren't the interests of The People of the USA; well, that these "elites" are worried about not being able to conquer and dominate, globally, is evident, has been for too long, already. But we know that that's an un- and anti-constitutional basis, criminal and rogue as hell, hence totally unacceptable.

Therefore, there are no justifications whatsoever that I can see or think of for the U.S. government to worry about members of the OAS when they're in the USA. The same applies with Cuban officials and other employees of the Cuban government. The USA has nothing to fear, except itself.

the irony here , as usual:

that the USA demanded Cuba "democratize" before being re-admitted to OAS.....

when the USA itself is hardly a true democracy ...and has been responsible for UNdemocratically undermining other countries in order to turn them in US imperial Vassal states.

it is also ironic that the USA has the "grand" history of UNdemocratic ENSLAVEMENT in order to build its wealth and prosperity and then lectures others about "democratizing"

which obviously is just another word for becoming "RIGHTWING" free market ideologue societies

which the USA ITSELF -- when the bottom line comes -- DOESN"T really even practice what it preaches about "free market".

it likes to lecture and demand that Cuba or other nations be more "democratic" and "participatory" in their politics and policies

but has a HISTORY and reality of ITS own of

a so-called "two party system" which is really just different wings of ONE WAR PARTY

and talks about how other countries are so undemocratic for having authoritarian regimes

when the USA itself - in its own politics - uses STATE MONOPOLY on VIOLENCE -- through police force, FBI, CIA, etc. etc.

incarcerates or spies and intimidates and destroys those that espouse "non conservative economics" or are deemed "left wing" or "communist" or "socialist".

what is so democratic about that?

can one say HYPOCRISY . big time?

Perhaps I'm naive, but, just what could Cuba learn from spying on the U.S.? How to build a nuclear submarine? Or, what are the intentions of the U.S. government toward Cuba?

All Cuba would need to learn about the U.S. it can learn from the internet. NYT & Washington Post have all sorts of stories about what goes on in the U.S.

No matter what Cuba would find out about the U.S. by spying on it, there is absolutely nothing Cuba could do against the wishes of the U.S. government without being smashed by the imperial might of the U.S. military, which has proven time and again its ability to slaughter people by the thousands, people who, by happenstance, live in countries that the U.S. wishes to conquer.

Irony Alert:
This sounds like a serious conspiracy to gut retired government employees of their pension. The gamed CPI to impoverish retirees isn't enough. The banks need more money. Besides, retirees can't do much about it. Hit 'em when their tired and down is the good old CIA motto. Great job, CIA! By the way how is the drug business for the poor? Is the CIA financing its Peru operations just from the corporations or are the drug franchises 'helping' too? You know, the surgeons don't call operations that anymore. They prettied up the action by calling them procedures. How about it 'company' folks? The Directorate of Procedures sounds less mafia-like than the Directorate of Operations. If you guys keep breaking so many eggs to make omelettes, you are going to start getting a lot of egg on your face. You guys are supposed to be secret agents. This blunt, bull in a china shop, obvious heavy handed crap is so Bush. You guys need serious help. Perhaps you can change the CIA to the Social Security for Corporate Amerika. That sounds real patriotic and the only jingoistic, knee jerk, red neck, anthem singing word left out is 'Fatherland'. Remember the code of secret agents everywhere: Nuance, nuance, nuance. Something to talk about at your next 'company picnic'.

This is how all this works, folks:
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4495

Dare I say this? We are in the "move on" era, not the "rectify the mistakes of the past" era; the "look forward, not back" era; the era of, well, whatever Obama wants to call it. We're all happy campers in Obamaland where whatever happens is wonderful and the past is just left unaccounted for.

Pity the rest of the world doesn't see it that way . . .

Ooooh, spying for Cuba for 30 years? Why aren't we all dead? And be really afraid of the sneaky moles working for Togo & Bhutan.

The empire is beginning to act more and more like Saruman, taking petty vengeance when they can't rain destruction on the recalcitrant.

But Dems have always felt obliged to prove they weren't really commies, from Wilson to now.

Poor Wobama. Poor us. Poor world.

Rosenberg?

Rosenberg, He was guilty she was not.

bligh4

Fidel is not the "past leader" he is the current leader. Does anyone believe that his brother calls the shots without clearing it with him first?