Weapons allocated/purchased by them showed up in bazaars in Kurdistan and in use by PKK and Mafia gunmen in Turkey.

The Turkish Guv complained after tracing them back to the manufacturers and following the trail.

That is how they got everything they wanted in the ongoing pursuit of PKK into northern Iraq.

Of course it did not help that The US could not tell the difference between Irani Kurds (PJAK) which we supported to disrupt Iran and the Turkish Kurds (PKK) which we have declared a terrorist group (regardless of us MSM)

"Weapons allocated/purchased by them showed up in bazaars in Kurdistan and in use by PKK and Mafia gunmen in Turkey."

Standard operating procedure for an empire out of control.

The time may have come in America where dishonesty and corruption are so prevailing that honesty is rare and worth reporting. Corruption is universally expected. Honesty is now like man bites dog and worth reporting.

This is what both bush administrations were all about. Well illegal and immoral crimes against all mankind. It first became public knowledge back during the Iran/Contra tragedy which bush 1 approved. Bushy 2 not only profited greatly from the poppy sells in Afghanistan but through petraeus sold billions of dollars of weapons to arm the insurgency. Actually arming both sides of wars started in the bush family when his grandfather Preston laundered Nazi money for Hitler.

During the iran/contra scandal the MSM was far less controlled by the Republican Party than they are today and even then it took them years before they mentioned it in the United States, and only after it had been circulating all over Central America for months, were they shamed into reporting anything about it. Which is why the bush administration did not have to worry about murders, torture, rapes, killing children, stealing billions or all the other crimes they committed. Since the MSM refuses to report republican crimes, no one will ever know. Except those that have been perpetrated by the most inhumane cabal ever to usurp power.

"FREEDOM LOVING ... May 6th, 2009 9:31 pm

This is what both bush administrations were all about. Well illegal and immoral crimes against all mankind."

You mean like Democrat Party (DP) presidential admin's are holy, having nothing of criminal conduct worthy of mention? Given the post by so-called "Freedom Loving" (FL) consists of bashing only the Repub. Party (RP), it seems FL is really intending to try to fool people into believing the DP is "clean", which is pure bs to think, say, or believe. The DP is different on some things, but there's awfully little difference between these two main U.S. political parties.

Bill Clinton's admin. was not really any better. What FL says about the Bush I and II presidencies and the RP, and the msm "news" media, as if it's controlled by only the RP, another bogus lie; well, BC commanded more crimes than Bush I did, and isn't particularly better than Bush II. U.S. President (unelected) LBJ wasn't better, and he personally saw to protecting Israel in its hellbent criminal attack on the USS Liberty, threatened members of the USS Liberty, ordering them to keep their mouths shut "or else ...!", was responsible for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin matter and more criminality. The Jimmy Carter admin., even if it wasn't him who was responsible, is guilty of crimes against humanity and one commonly known case is what the admin. criminally did to provoke the USSR to invade Afghanistan.

And ... etcetera.

It's unfortunate that people can still think that we can blame only the RP as if the DP is honourable, when both are equally (enough) dishonourable. Maybe the DP is historically worse (?). I don't know about that, but some people are evidently or apparently expert enough on this aspect of U.S. history.

I read one person who said that the DP is guilty of considerably more war crimes or else wars than the RP is; and we know for a fact that nearly all war involvements of the U.S. have been criminal, usually for [racket]. Some people even well state that the U.S. involvement in WW II was criminally based, including, among other crimes, if the story is true, that is, that the U.S. President knew that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor and remained silent about this in order to let the attack happen so that Americans would support entering the war.

Another person I very recently read on the Pearl Harbor attack says that the U.S. government actually provoked Japan into attacking, by criminally, hegemoniously or hegemonously (spelling?), ... acting against Japan, like ensuring Japan would want to attack the U.S. Reading what the U.S. government did to Japan (severe actions, sanctions, ...) leaves it clear that Japan would want to retaliate and seriously so. It's therefore clear, if this story is true, that Japan did not really attack; having, instead, retaliated for intolerably harsh actions by the U.S. I can believe that this writer was honest about this bit of extremely underreported history, but can't guarantee that he or she is telling the truth. The story "line" is very believable, but is it really true? I don't know, but it fits with rather all of U.S. history, really.

This post will be continued with the immediately next one.

Continuing my post:

Of what political party of the U.S. was the president during WW II, or the one in office when the Pearl Harbor attack happened?

Which party had more members in Congress in 1933 or 1934 when former USMC Major General Smedley Butler exposed and testified about the Prescot(t?) Bush, Heinz, Maxwell House, ... elites' plot for a corporate-fascist and military-carried-out coup d'etat against the presidency of FDR? Were there more Dems than Repubs in that treasonous Congress, which took Smedley Butler's testimony but covered up the identities of the rich, aristocrat, ... "elites" behind the plot to overthrow President FDR and his administration, apparently only because of his 'New Deal' project or plan for the U.S.?

It's evidently official record that Smedley Butler testified about this latter matter, after Prescot Bush approached him to try to get him to lead the military-conducted coup, because the rich, ... "elites" knew they needed a military to commit this coup in order to be successful and that Smedley Butler was highly respected by many or most military soldiers, enough that if he tried to lead them to commit such a coup, then they might actually believe he was right and would therefore agree to work with him. That he testified about this is evidently official record, but Congress covered up the identities of ... who knows how many rich, ... "elites" behind the plot.

Which party was in control of the then Congress, and is there really a serious difference, which of the two main parties is in control? Given the Obama administration, as well as Bill Clinton's, though he didn't have a Dem. Party in control of Congress, but while that evidently doesn't make any difference, as the Obama administration and Dem. Party have been demonstrating for us to be [reminded], not told, but [re]-minded of, 're-' as in re-peat, instead of something new or a new theme, way, ...; well, what the f*ck is the difference?!

Okay, maybe the Dem. Party doesn't have Evangelical fanatics, ... for members or supporters, but the Dem. Party has its own bunches of nuts, fanatics, LIARS, deceivers, cons, ...! So what's the difference, really? When you go to hell, conceptually speaking of course (only), whether you go to the left or the right side, you're still in hell! Hell doesn't care about right or left; it only wants to corrupt [everything], [everyone], and make your life awfully miserable, even to the point of helping you to be rich so that you think you're happy when you're actually miserable as hell. Again, figuratively speaking, but hell does seem to have a way about "helping" to believe that being falsely superior to others is rewarding, enrichening, ..., too.

Evil, whatever the sources or causes, seems to have "a way" with causing people to believe falsehoods are true, enticing them into taking paths that are actually harmful or detrimental to themselves and others.

Simple rules to stay safe? Sure: Do for others what you'ld like done for yourself if you were in their situations, and don't to to others what you wouldn't want done to yourself. Simple!

When you're in third-world sort of economic status, however, you might not agree with stealing, but might have to resort to it. You try to do it "nicely" though. You try to be a "nice" thief, a "friendly" pick-pocket, ..., say. After all, the theft is then only for survival, not greed.

Dem. and Repub. Parties? Both hellbent! They are that, figuratively anyway. Literally? Well, I do and don't think so, but the 'do' view seems to out-weigh the don't view. They both disgust me, anyway. Hellbent s.o.b(astard)s that they too much consist of!

In any case, NO truly honest citizen or resident can defend the DP against the RP, for they're both hellbent criminal, to the extremes, supremely criminal. Humans cannot attain greater criminality! Super-power equals or is equivalent to supreme criminal? Seems so.

well -- while there might still be differences between them in some things - or at least by what minor members of their parties represents, particularly the more progressive democrats who really have no power anyway , the main point is that the GOP and DEMs really have been exactly what Ralph Nader called them:

the Right and Left Wings of the SAME corporatocracy.

or what others call the Right and Left wings of the SAME War Party.

basically the United States of America CAN'T be any other thing so long as it subscribes (both leadership, industries, culture and people and self-created Mythology of American Exceptionalism) to the idea of Empire - spoken or unspoken.

throughout the world America has always been known as the "the EMPIRE that does not speak its name"

but with that -- comes MILITARISM and WAR. they come hand in hand with this Empire.

so -- why should it be surprising that there are no fundamental differences in the Policy of WAR which is what American Foreign Policy REALLY is and has been for generations?

OTHERWISE -- such things as "VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS" by a country that has had over 200 Military adventures abroad -- practically all of them UNPROVOKED -- and even world wars 1 and 2 really used as an excuse to POSITION the united states the Global Empire taking over from England and preventing ALL OTHERS to challenge it -- WOULDN'T be given the position of Mythical "HONOR" that they have..

they would instead be matters of great shame for representing the CRIMINALITY of the USA in WARS of ITS design , meddling and making.

after all what is the US military of global spread if not the "BIG MUSCLE" that Marine General Smedley Butler in 1933 described it to be? the "BIG MUSCLE and ENFORCER of the WILL of our Big Finance, Big Corporations, Big Money and Chamber of Commerce"...?

what are all these Blackwater etc, and contractors? if NOT BIG MONEY and CORPORATIONS and members of "US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE?".

don't THEY have STOCKS in wall street?

what are americans and others who INVEST in these companies all about if NOT about MONEY?

so -- why would anyone be surprised that the USA is seen more and more for what IT TRULY HAS BEEN anyway?

the worlds' "greatest purveyor of violence?" as Dr Martin Luther King, Jr. said?

it's the TRUTH .

the whole world knows it. perhaps only americans or some of them either DON't KNOW, or won't admit it, or

as an american poet said:

"we americans carefully nurture and attitude of detached indifference to the suffering of others,........even if WE are the cause of it".

THAT TOO is how the world begins to see america or increasingly sees america to be . and its congress only displays it in a more theatrical fashion with all its hypocritical double standard postures...

such as recently expressing OUTRAGE, OUTRAGE

at the videos of a United Arab Emirates ROYAL family member torturing a lowly citizen ....

while the USA's OWN leadership from obama to the police stations are dragging their feet on the DEFINITION of TORTURE when it applies to AMERICANS COMMITTING it in the WARS that america propagates everywhere == where it calls those "in the NATIONAL INTEREST"

but which it really has NO business meddling in the affairs of other nations .

it is amazing that a little reported in us media remark has turned on its head the centuries old statement by James Madison:

Madison said:

"america does not go abroad in search of Monsters to Destroy...she is solely the protector of her home and only wishes good fortune towards other nations".

and YET america HAS gone abroad "in search of monsters to destroy" LARGELY because of ITS OWN MAKING because of ITS own MEDDLING in the affairs of other regions for ITS self-described "national interests".

IRONIC THEN that this week -- in response to american criticisms and SUPPOSED "concern about lack of transparency" of CHINA's Military buildup to make its military come forward to the PRESENT status of modernity of the arms race INSTIGATED by the USA anyway .....

when china has made it know to build its own aircraft carriers while its complaints to the USA for decades has been ignored about the USA BUILDING UP military presence IN china's neighborhood -- far, far away from the USA's OWN borders --

this high navy official of china - for the first time in such a DIRECT response from china on us criticisms about ITS own affairs has said:

"THE USA habitually creates enemies or imagines them abroad in ORDER TO JUSTIFY ITS OWN MILITARY BUILDUP....we are improving our military capability and modernizing IN KEEPING with our national interests and the SIZE of our nation in the world for our own protection around our own borders .....does america really THINK that we will THREATEN them in THEIR own shores or that we are even CAPABLE of it?"

he just LEFT OUT - but left the implication clear anyway -- about "what is america doing in OUR backyard?"

as all other countries really have a right to be asking openly anyway whenever the USA LECTURES them about "militarism and lack of transparency as to their real motives".

I am still amazed that so many of you "Americans" are 'surprised' to find that there is so much corruption attached to your nation, it's history as well as its present.
So many of you have been content with what Mark Twain observed in 1881 when he remarked " we live in an era where mediocrity rises to the top"-----it seems that little has changed since then---and a close examination will reveal that it has always been the case.
The USA has marketed itself from the beginning as a 'Democracy' when in reality it has never been anything but a "plutocratic oligarchy", and the "elite" who have been in control since the beginning have been mediocre at best, and when there are exceptions that accidentally rise to a position of control they are eliminated.
GW Bush, and his father were but just two prime examples; and now news has revealed that the GW Bush "presidential library" has raised 100 million dollars in 100 days---reported to be the fastest in history---for a President who most likely could count the number of "books' he has read with three digits or less (and this does not include "Look Spot, Look" which he surely has a copy on hand to share with others if they ask).
America prides itself on its "Mediocrity"----and will fight anyone who wants to argue that case---- usually with a mediocre argument.
It does not appear that the newest "administration" is any change in the opposite direction---indeed, the only change it represents seems to be superficial at best, with little or no substance.
One must always strive to find the positive. Taking that into consideration, perhaps the only "positive" observation one will make in the future about America will be that; "America was a powerful force for a negative example for History"--------and in my tribe, we like to say "well, if you know what NOT to do, you've got half of it down"--------
The time for "change" most likely has passed most Americans by, and they most likely will soon start to feed off themselves/each other. The real fear the world most likely has is that the Americans are armed with "nuculur" weapons; and they are the only nation to have ever used them---and it was on a civilian population---

America already is a negative example-------------and the world cannot possibly tolerate them much longer.

As for our people, we have been here for 100 thousand years or more, and we will be here when the "Americans" and their "history" are dusty old copies of books----a distant memory-----and a forgettable mistake of humanity, except for their 'negative example'. America was a great idea , the Americans just couldn't pull it off....................it was way beyond their capabilities.

Good Luck America, you really need it.

Come on! These guys are mercenaries! What do you expect them to do? Their allegiance is to the buck! Too bad for them it appears they were hoisted, by their attempts to cover up, on their own petard and by their own hand! Hang'em.