Israel Stands Ready to Bomb Iran's Nuclear Sites
JERUSALEM - The Israeli military is preparing itself to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities within days of being given the go-ahead by its new government.
Among the steps taken to ready Israeli forces for what would be a risky raid
requiring pinpoint aerial strikes are the acquisition of three Airborne
Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft and regional missions to simulate the
attack.
Two nationwide civil defence drills will help to prepare the public for the retaliation that Israel could face.
“Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours. They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words,” one senior defence official told The Times.
Officials believe that Israel could be required to hit more than a dozen targets, including moving convoys. The sites include Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges produce enriched uranium; Esfahan, where 250 tonnes of gas is stored in tunnels; and Arak, where a heavy water reactor produces plutonium.
The distance from Israel to at least one of the sites is more than 870 miles, a distance that the Israeli force practised covering in a training exercise last year that involved F15 and F16 jets, helicopters and refuelling tankers.
The possible Israeli strike on Iran has drawn comparisons to its attack on the Osirak nuclear facility near Baghdad in 1981. That strike, which destroyed the facility in under 100 seconds, was completed without Israeli losses and checked Iraqi ambitions for a nuclear weapons programme.
“We would not make the threat [against Iran] without the force to back it. There has been a recent move, a number of on-the-ground preparations, that indicate Israel's willingness to act,” said another official from Israel's intelligence community.
He added that it was unlikely that Israel would carry out the attack without receiving at least tacit approval from America, which has struck a more reconciliatory tone in dealing with Iran under its new administration.
An Israeli attack on Iran would entail flying over Jordanian and Iraqi airspace, where US forces have a strong presence.
Ephraim Kam, the deputy director of the Institute for National Security Studies, said it was unlikely that the Americans would approve an attack.
“The American defence establishment is unsure that the operation will be successful. And the results of the operation would only delay Iran's programme by two to four years,” he said.
A visit by President Obama to Israel in June is expected to coincide with the national elections in Iran — timing that would allow the US Administration to re-evaluate diplomatic resolutions with Iran before hearing the Israeli position.
“Many of the leaks or statements made by Israeli leaders and military commanders are meant for deterrence. The message is that if [the international community] is unable to solve the problem they need to take into account that we will solve it our way,” Mr Kam said.
Among recent preparations by the airforce was the Israeli attack of a weapons convoy in Sudan bound for militants in the Gaza Strip.
“Sudan was practice for the Israeli forces on a long-range attack,” Ronen Bergman, the author of The Secret War with Iran, said. “They wanted to see how they handled the transfer of information, hitting a moving target ... In that sense it was a rehearsal.”
Israel has made public its intention to hold the largest-ever nationwide drill next month.
Colonel Hilik Sofer told Haaretz, a daily Israeli newspaper, that the drill would “train for a reality in which during war missiles can fall on any part of the country without warning ... We want the citizens to understand that war can happen tomorrow morning”.
Israel will conduct an exercise with US forces to test the ability of Arrow, its US-funded missile defence system. The exercise would test whether the system could intercept missiles launched at Israel.
“Israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate the threat of a nuclear Iran. According to Israeli Intelligence they will have the bomb within two years ... Once they have a bomb it will be too late, and Israel will have no choice to strike — with or without America,” an official from the Israeli Defence Ministry said.
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161 Comments so far
Show AllAlready called you zio scumbags on this: do it.
Then suffer the consequences.
Do it, zio scumbags.
Well The Russian levelling Isreal, I like that
US does not have the ba**s to stop the Zionist someone has to take charge
It will be fair to see how the Isreali army handles a real army
Saloo297, Maybe you didn't understand my comment. Mr Chips got it right away.
I DON'T want any country leveled. It would be the continuation of misery and suffering plaguing humanity since primordial times. When are men going to stop using their fists and start using their minds in solving problems?
"Marx, Ritter, and Nietzsche were all funded and under the instruction of the Rothschilds. The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies to enable them to divide larger and larger factions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other, and particularly, to destroy all political and religious institutions. The same plan put forward by Weishaupt in 1776"
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Any truth to this?
It's not like Iran hasn't noticed the Israeli saber rattling...
They have some new Russian made S-300PMU2 Favorit surface-to-air missile defensive systems, reputed to be the best in the world, that Russia would *love* to show other potential customers can destroy any Israeli long range invasion of a country.
Israel would be ruining its relationship with President Obama to undertake this paranoidal attack on Iran; then when they *get* there, they are shot down.
Priceless :-)
The UN Nuclear watchdog, which has done extensive inspections, still says there is ZERO proof that Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.
Were Israel to attack Iran, this would be a blantant act of war, and a violation of the Geneva Convention, and I certainly hope that Iran would retaliate.
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
If we take our media back from those people, the next generation of Americans will know better than our current idiots how to move forward in a shrinking world, and peace will be the prize.
MEDIA CONTROL IS TO BLAME!
www.meetyourworld.com
Give Palestine back to the Palestinians. Let the Israel Jews have Texas. Plenty of room there for them to expand. They could even put illegal settlements into Oklahoma or New Mexico.
Should the Israelis bomb Iran, a great response would be for the Iranians to bomb the palaces of the leaders of all puppet governments in the region that control oil and natural gas reserves. Then, help Islamic militants take control of those countries. Then, together with Russia, OPEC should raise the price of oil and force us to pay $25 a gallon, with a promise to cut prices to cureent levels only if we divorce the Israeli regime in Palestine. Before long, the problem of zionist terror in the region would cease to exist.
www.meetyourworld.com
Cool your jets, Psycho-Zionist Whiney Pussy Bitches!
The majority of Americans here in the San Francisco Bay Area do not give you permission to even think of committing such an UNHOLY ACT and I sincerely doubt if you could muster even a modicum of support anywhere in the country outside of New York City or the State of Florida!
Go back to the pre-1967 Israeli-Palestinian border divisions and stop embarrassing this Deep Pocket Sugar Daddy Goy Nation with your INSANE AND INCESSANT SABER RATTLING DRIVEL!!!
Here are 4 facts:
1. The current regime in Iran wants to exterminate Israel.
2. Iran is developing a nuclear capability, easily convertable to nukes.
3. Iran is developing nukes delivery system (ballistic missiles)
4. Israel doesn’t want to be exterminated.
Given the four facts above, the best option is that the international community will negotiate with Iran and peacefully prevent them from obtaining nukes.
However, if talks fails, and the only option available to Israel is to be exterminated in a nuclear holocaust (tens of millions deads, world wide nuklear winter) or attack the nuclear facilities in Iran, than Israel will attack.
Therefore, I see no problem with them getting ready.
Four Realities:
1. The current regime in Israel believes they have the right to rule over all other people including the US, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt and Iran.
2. Israel has nuclear weapons and repeatedly threatens to use them on neighboring peoples.
3. Israel has an extant nuclear delivery system including bombers, missiles and submarines.
4. Israel has repeatedly massacred civilians including many children in order terrorize neighboring peoples into compliance with Israel's demands.
I only see one nuclear armed, rabid tribe of terrorists with a history of killing children. It is the nation called Israel. How they believe they can kill the children of their neighbors and be allowed to live is a mystery.
Is the rest of the neighborhood supposed to accept the endless deaths of children at the hands of the IDF? If a neighbor kills your child then demands your cow, takes the cow, kills another child then demands your goat what do you do? If he has a gun you get a gun; if he has nuclear weapons......
Israel cannot survive the wrath of 300 million arab neighbors or 1.6 billion muslims. They can only beg forgiveness.
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¿ You asked for use to point out your lies ( and / or distortions of reality ) ?
1. ( they're not even close to being as trenchant, bellicose, nor foolish as Zion, while also having a sophisticated culture going back uninterrupted for several thousand years ),
2. ( nothing under closely adhered to UN inspection & supervison is EASY or QUICK to convert ), and
4. ( all state actions committed over the last 60 years demonstrate a collective death-wish )
Item 3. is also BS since the space race is the place for the next century ++
batting zero is about right for your "game"
Namaste
P . S.
You may be a corpse to me,
but your silly arguments are too fun
to leave alone and not bust wide open
1. Here is but one proof that Iran wants Israel's death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
(There are many other examples).
2. High grade Uranium is easily converted to nuke. If Iran, a country rich with oil and sun, wants nuclear energy so much, why chose high grade uranium reactors instead of low grade such as the candu?
3. Appose to your falsely, ballistic missiles are Not bullshit. They can deliver nukes.
Here is a quote from Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile
"A ballistic missile is a missile that follows a sub-orbital ballistic flightpath with the objective of delivering a warhead (often nuclear)."
4. What action that Israel did in the past 60 years demonstrate death-wish?
Talk is cheap; bringing proof may be more convincing.
P . S.
You may be a corpse to me,
but your silly arguments are too fun
to leave alone and not bust wide open
1) source not credible
2) It isn't that easy to build a nuke, nor is it that easy to build a nuke that has a higher blast effect than the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bomb. The Candu reactor can be used to build a bomb as easily as any other reactor. But in any case if you build a bomb, it will be noticed.
3) just building a missle doesn't mean you can fit a nuke on one. A fat man type of bomb couldn't be installed on any missle smaller than a Saturn V type of rocket. It took the usa 15-20 years to build such a device, and the early models weren't that reliable...
4) Israel hasn't yet passed up the opportunity to spread hatred against the people who lived in Palestine before they colonized it. Violence is prefered to talking to their 'enemies', they seem to want to assassinate their leaders before letting them talk about peace.
Further to the Wiki link, read the following link and see if you think there was sufficient corruption and potential for the 'mix-up' in warheads that I alluded to above:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/abf8cc64-9753-11d9-9f01-00000e2511c8.html?nclick_check=1
Has anyone else noted that 'Iran will have a bomb within a couple of years' was trumpeted last year, the year before that, and the year before that....
That line is past its best before date and is wearing a little thin.
If Israel wishes to self-fulfill its perceived "they hate us and want to wipe us out and drive us into the sea" then a large step forward to that objective could be accomplished by bombing Iran.
I still wonder if the 12 Raduga Kh-55 cruise missiles that were exported from Ukraine to Iran had nuclear warheads. With 1,612 KH-55's left in Ukraine after the Cold War I am sure there was potential for accidental or deliberate mix-ups.
I note that Israeli missile defence systems will likely not work against ground hugging cruise missiles and I also note that they have not seemed to have any defensive effect against the Katyusha fireworks lobbed from Gaza.
I realise that Wiki may not have everything right but read the 'Operational History' paragraph:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raduga_Kh-55
Actually I wanted to comment on this. But then I realized
that anything in regards to the history and policies of
the so called state of israel is ineffable.
There are simply no words in any language to describe the
failure of humans living under the terminology of formentioned
state.
Would I like to live in a country the size of a peanut with
people in power that sit on a nuclear powder keg fumbling with
matches?
Only one thing I would like to state.
If semitism equals genocide and perpetual terroristic oppression
of fellow human beings, I would consider myself a human failure
if I would not be Anti-semitic.
"markpaddles April 19th, 2009 1:05 am
To TheMiddleRoad,
This is one of the best articles I have read on the Iranian nuclear issue and I highly suggest you read it.
http://www.harvardir.org/index.php?page=article&id=1783&p="
THAT ARTICLE is perhaps one to be careful about in reading it, for the author lies (perhaps unwittingly)_ at the start of the second paragraph.
Quote: "To add insult to injury, the shocking comments of Iran’s President concerning the wiping of another sovereign (Israel) off the map, his questioning of Holocaust, or calling 9/11 a “suspect event”, have done little to defuse the growing Western unease with Iran’s nuclear program."
Not addressing the lie, President Ahmadinejad's questioning of the Holocaust and 9-11 are not really important matters; plenty of people have questioned and still question both, and there are good reasons to do so, not necessarily right, but still good as in understandable. Re. the Holocaust, some of the best Holocaust denier authors have done such an extensively good job of this that wherein they're wrong is not easy for many people to realise that the text or claim is wrong; the authors saying by far mostly true things and then throwing in a lie or two, lying importantly, but very little, compared to the rest that's all true. That makes it difficult for readers to realise that the one or two things that are false are actually false. As for 9-11, the 9-11 Commission and the NIST have covered up much and [many] Americans, and even more people in Europe and probably Canada don't believe the "official story" the White House concocted, the greatest of the conspiracy theories of them all! It may take considerably reading and viewing of videos to realise this about 9-11, but this is all that's needed; considerable reading and viewing of videos. Zogby polled Americans in 2006 or 2007 and the result was that 51% of the the people polled want the 9-11 investigations to be re-opened, because they do NOT believe the "official story". There were also polls by The NYT and CBS, as well as by other parties or organisations, and they all show that [many] Americans do not believe the "official story".
Neither of those reasons is cause for war though. So what if President Ahmadinejad questions the Holocaust having happened! So what if he doubts the "official story" on 9-11! Big f*cking deal it's NOT!
Addressing the lie, the author of the Harvard Review article lies in repeating that President Ahmadinejad said that a sovereign state, Israel, should be efaced from the map of Earth. That was always a bogus claim; a bogus piece of reporting from some bogus news media and this bogus sh*t spread like wildfire across the West, the bogus "news" media of which still hasn't made this correction public, certainly not enough anyway.
If that author does not realise this latter matter, and he certainly doesn't, based on repeating the lie in the article, then I suggest being careful in reading the article. Wherein what he says is sane and fact-based, fine, but be wary, for most educated analysts know very well that President Ahmedinejad never said Israel should be disappeared from the face Earth. Most learned this like from the start of the spreading wildfire, because we were informed about the claim being false and a bogus translation of President Ahmadinejad's words right from the very start of the controversy. That's quite a long time, now!
"rush limbaughs taint April 18th, 2009 9:15 pm
your comments make sense, and certainly the precarious position of US troops in the region (not just iraq, btw) is a factor.
but "making sense" doesn't seem to be guiding a whole hell of a lot of US/Israeli foreign policy. militarism has its own insane logic.
if you had asked most people 10 years ago if the US would ever invade iraq or afghanistan, they'd have been sceptical. if you'd said the US would be stupid enough to invade *both* countries at once, they'd have tho't you were crazy."
THAT POST sounds like it's referring to mine, my first post in this page, and if this is accurate, then I can add a few cents of words on the above.
1) I DO NOT speak for most people; speaking only for myself, while being able to repeat what I've gathered from others and can thereby state their views or analyses, too. MOST Americans supported the wars on both Afghanistan and Iraq; while I was immediately opposed to both, as I was in 1999 about the war on Kosovo. If it had been me who had been addressed "10 years ago" as rush limbaughs taint describes or refers to, then I wouldn't have had the same perspective most people would have had, according to what rush limb... taint says would've likely been the reaction. I would've had the opposite reaction, because I'm not naive and never believed my government was a [good] one, etcetera. I don't worship any government; if I'm going to worship, then only God will receive this.
2) SO, my first post in this page certainly was not intended to represent what most other people would think or say; it's only to state what I personally believe, through my own understanding, as well as being somewhat reinforced by what I've read by some, few, but some good, sound, critical and fast thinking people I've read articles from or by.
Hence I stick with the reasoning expressed in my first post; nothing of it about to be changed, not yet anyway. I'll have to see some real evidence of Israel attacking Iran to alter my view or analysis on the likelihood of this happening, vs not.
As insane as the two governments, the U.S. and Israel, are, the political leadership certainly don't want to cause a serious or major political and human earthquake under their feet. I'll stick with this view until the day that Israel is actually allowed (by the U.S.) to fly through U.S.-controlled airspace over Iraq and literally and psychopathically attacks Iran. But I doubt the political risks involved with such attacks would really be accepted by either of these two governments hijackers or whatever the hell they are.
hi mike. yes, i was responding to you. when i say "most" people, i'm thinking of MSM types. certainly *some* people saw the end-game in iraq as conquest, but this was not really publicly discussed in mainstream discourse (quite the opposite, in fact). but we didn't keep a sanctions regime going in iraq for a decade just to let that juicy prize slip thru our fingers. in fact, it would have been perfectly reasonable to opine that the crushing sanctions regime was intended precisely to wear the country down and exhaust them for an easier invasion. afghanistan is a different story, 9/11 providing a convenient excuse.
of course it's difficult to predict what's going to happen, and people have been talking about invading/attacking iran for a long time (since '79, in fact). but rhetoric can have consequences, even if we know the USaeans/Israelis run their bloody mouths non-stop.
also to be considered that w/all this sabre-rattling and all the military personnel, etc., in iran's neighborhood, war could be started quite accidentally.
a minor incident could explode out of control.
and clearly the bush admin was preparing the country for the possibility of invasion, w/all that talk of iran supplying weapons, etc., to the "terrorists" in iraq (on top of the nuclear bogeyman). (this is pure speculation, but if things had gone "better" in iraq, we might be in iran right now.)
anyway, no, we can't know for sure what the us or israel is going to do until they do it, but if historical precedent has any merit, we will most likely will attempt something in iran (barring economic collapse or something unforeseen), if we are not overwhelmed by problems in iraq/afghanistan (a big if).
I don't think the Zionists are a crazy as they want us to think.
What they blog to us everyday is proof.
First of all, to think Iran would be a nuclear threat to anyone, even if they actually had a couple, is crazy. Just like Saddam (remember the new Hitler?), they are smart enough to know that if they launched an attack, they'd be obliteraded. The motive would only be as a deterrent against a first strike. But, recently the US gov't hasn't wanted a mutual deterrent; but, starting w/Raygun, and continuing w/the Bush bros. and Clinton, the idea of Star Wars was promoted, so that the Washington-TelAviv-London axis and their "allies" could erase the "balance of terror" by establishing a monopoly on the power to terrorize ( an important byproduct, of course being profits for "defense" contractors ).
Israel, AIPAC, and all of those who bow to them, have the same motive in the present time; that an increasingly Zionist should have the power to terrorize the rest of the Middle East.
One more time: to oppose Zionist brutal occupations and atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank and atrocities in Lebanon, is not antisemitism. Who cannot notice that all of great Jewish journalists/academics in the US and Israel are appalled at ultra Zionism!
I had Ann Wright over for dinner a few nights ago and she said many of the "middle road" jews are living Israel because of the further political swing to the militant far right. Ann has lead two recent groups to Gaza and is planning more, so if your interested, and have the stomach for such a trip, contact her.
The similarities between the Warsaw Jewish ghetto and the current Gaza ghetto is rather uncanny. Truly many of the fanatical Zionist's have focused so much on the enemy that they are becoming a shadow image of them. The mass death wish of the radicle right keeps intensifying while sucking the saner humanoids along in there tidal wave of fear and hate.
Anybody who lets their children grow up to be an Israeli adult citizen is clearly insane. The religious conservatives demand war against their neighbors but refuse to serve in the IDF as they know it taints them. The liberals end up sending their own sons and daughters to butcher other people's children.
The leaders of Israel are clearly off their medications to continue this insane saber-rattling campaign against a nation with twenty times their population and a noose around western oil supplies.
If Israel attacks Iran the Iranians have promised to close the Straights of Hormuz and attack Saudi oil shipping facilities. Whatever remains of the global economy that feeds Israel will grind to a halt for lack of adequate fuel.
Everyone knows that the kid lighting matches in this tinderbox is Israel.
Ralph442, Good post. Saw Ann last October. She's wonderful!
A friend of mine who recently visited Gaza, said that a Jewish woman in the group was disillusioned by what the Israeli's have been doing to the Palestinians, that she is no longer a Zionist.
The similarities are uncanny.
If people want to throw away the gift of life who can stop them? No one!
wait. when they get the go ahead from... who? their government? or ours? could they possibly embark on such an enterprise without u.s. permission? don't think so. this project could be halted with one phone call from president obama. he thinks it will be too hard, given our histories, and his own speeches. So let me humbly suggest a script:
barak: yo Benny wazzup?
b.n.: gonna bomb Iran barak,. whaddya think?
Braak : not a good idea Ben.
b.n wait- didn't you say no one is a better friend to Israel than you?
barak: that's right benny. And friends don't let friends bomb Iran.
do you understand?
b.n.:i think so. i'm calling it off ok?
barak : you damn right you are ben. or you know what i can do.
All this talk of nuclear weapons seems to me like a bunch of pre-school kids in a sandbox. Don't throw sand at each other; adult behaviour is needed. When are we going to talk to each other rationally instead of threatening violence?
Right, let's punish Iran for being technologically advanced. Let's cut off Israel from all weapons and take back the ones we already gave them, NOW!
Two points:
1) The following is for my post of yesterday and for a copy of the article, "Peres dismisses talk of Israeli attack on Iran",
by Dan Williams, Reuters, Apr 16 2009.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/04/17-0#comment-1183852
2) Iran will justly hold the U.S. responsible for any Israeli attack on Iran without any open participation of the U.S, President Ahmadinejad or the Iranian govt anyway has warned a number of times.
Re. the first item, above, the article says that Peres doesn't have final say on the matter, PM Netanyahu having the final word on this; in terms of overt Israeli decision-making anyway. The U.S. certainly has its say in this too, just that it's often not in overt terms; only being during meetings behind closed doors and the topics and results of those discussions not always being revealed to the public.
The very latter, that the U.S. will have a say even with the Netanyahu govt, is related to the second point, in which regards Iran is right to hold the U.S. responsible if Israel attacks Iran. After all, Israel's bombers apparently would have to fly through airspace over Iraq and it's the U.S. that controls this airspace. Any other route than over Iraq apparently would mean that Israel's planes couldn't make the return trip, so the only options are to either fly over Iraq to attack Iran, or not attack Iran at all, not overtly anyway. Israel, if it attacks, would therefore have obtained authorisation of the U.S. for the attack(s) on Iran.
The authorisation would surely not be stated publicly in explicit terms, but would still be inarguably real and definite. After all, the U.S. can definitely prevent Israel or any other country from flying planes through airspace over Iraq, so any that fly through that space implicitly, or explicitly (publicly acknowledged), have authorisation from the U.S. presidential administration and its top military cmders in Iraq or that region!
So, if Israel attacks Iran, then like people wrote numerous enough times over the past few years, be prepared to see only U.S. troops returning to the U.S. from Iraq in [coffins]! Iran will strike, rather retaliate, as hard as it can at as many U.S. forces, ships, etc. as it can in the region; as well as striking back at Israel as much as possible. Iran doesn't have nuclear arms, but we know that it has plentifully strong defence with its many missiles that can certainly reach Israel and most or all U.S. presence in the region.
What's the possibility that Iran would not actually retaliate if attacked; the possibility that its warnings are only to try to instill fear of attacking, without really intending to follow through on this warning? I don't have a clue and (a common) logic "says" that Iran would retaliate as hard as it can; but people think, act, govern, ... dynamically, say. We can say we'll do x, y, z, and then do a, b, c, instead. Still, when attacked militarily, we know that the normal reaction would also be military; if the attacked party has this capability, that is. Haitians and Palestinians, f.e., do not have this capability, but Iran definitely and seriously or strongly does. So I think the safest wager is that Iran would certainly retaliate as hard as it can, or nearly that much.
I doubt the Obama administration would accept for the Israeli PM to launch attacks on Iran, particularly when it'd cost the lives of all (or most, or many anyway) U.S. troops in Iraq. The administration would surely warn very strongly against conducting such attacks, and it's been reported that the Obama admin. has told the Israeli leadership to back off from attacks on Iran. The Obama admin. surely wouldn't want many U.S. troops being killed in Iraq because of the admin.'s complicity in Israel striking Iran. There would be very strong "civil unrest" in the U.S. if the administration acted otherwise or to the contrary; or so I expect, anyway. I don't think he'd be forgiven by The People of the U.S. if he makes himself complicit in the retaliations against U.S. forces in the Middle East or everywhere they're located within Iran's striking range.
That's theory, and only the future will reveal what happens, and not. But I think the Israeli leadership is full of hot air when it comes to these threats of attacking Iran. They know Iran would most definitely strike back at Israel and could inflict a lot of damage and death, even if Iran doesn't have nukes. And I will take the guess that the Israeli leadership wouldn't want to cause strong opposition from the Israeli population, which I think would happen if the leadership caused Iran to strike back and as hard as it can. Surely, it'd be a political shooting of themselves in both feet, to say the least, if the Israeli leadership carried out its threat to attack Iran.
No? "You" mean the Israeli population would still side with their political leadership, which would clearly and irrefutably be the party most responsible for great damage and death being inflicted on Israelis due to the leadership launching totally criminal, hypocrtical, hegemonic, ... unjustifiable attacks on Iran? "You" mean the Israeli population is this hellbent dumb, asinine, ...? No; I don't think "you" really mean that.
I believe there'd surely be political backfiring in Israel and Israelis might finally mass up as a very large lynch-and-tar mob heading for their (literally hellbent) Parliament or whatever their govt buildings are called. Sort of like should've happened in the U.S. for many years now, already.
your comments make sense, and certainly the precarious position of US troops in the region (not just iraq, btw) is a factor.
but "making sense" doesn't seem to be guiding a whole hell of a lot of US/Israeli foreign policy. militarism has its own insane logic.
if you had asked most people 10 years ago if the US would ever invade iraq or afghanistan, they'd have been sceptical. if you'd said the US would be stupid enough to invade *both* countries at once, they'd have tho't you were crazy.
Do it, zio.
Take another step on your path to self-destruction.
Soon the people of the Jewish religion and Israel will be free of your vile tyranny.
Whenever your arguments run dry yell "antisemitism".
Then prepare to DIE Israel.
Russia is ready to VAPORIZE the Jewish state if you are foolish enough to invade and bomb Iran!
International JEWISH Terrorist Network:
The Global Elite/
The House of Rothschild/
International Jewish
Terrorist Network
"We need to take away the foundation for terrorism,
and establish barriers to its activites and its spread"
-Javier Solano-EU High Commissioner
POINTS:
1. Anti-Christ will be Jew
2. House of Rothschild/ Head of Snake/Ardent Zionist
3. Terrorism in Israel/War on TERROR- USA/EU/Israel
4. Using FEAR to procure billions into US/EU military-industrial-intelligence National Security State complex to protect International Jewish Corporate Empire from the Masses of the peoples on the planet
5. US/British/Israeli Axis of Evil
The Rothschild Empire is today the richest, most powerful, most influential temporal force on the planet.
Based primarily in London, UK, it has amassed untold TRILLIONS in wealth over the past 3 centuries to become the prime mover and shaker in international political and financial affairs.
The House of Rothschild is ardently jewish and staunchly pro-zionist in its religious disposition and affairs. As of the year 2000, they have decided to engage and promulgate "international terrorism" to catalyze and 'fast track' their ultimate quest and goal for a One World Government based in the European Union.
Rothschild interests not only control the United States of America directly through the US Federal Reserve, they also control (and weild) the most lethal military fighting force in the world today: the US military. This International Jewish Terrorist Empire fights by proxy, that is, they get others to fight, kill and die for them, in this case, deluded and deceived Americans.
There exists a US/British/Israeli Axis of Evil that is reeking absolute havoc upon our world today, committing acts of military, economic and environmental terrorism, exploitation and destruction on an unprecedented scale all over the world, leaving only death, ruin, chaos and vengence in its wake.
The Rothschilds operate out of the financial district in the heart of London, England; known as 'the City'. All major British banks have their main offices there, along with branch offices for nearly 400 foreign banks, including at least 70 from the United States. Within 'the City' exists the Bank of England, the London Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, Fleet Street (home of international publishing and media/newspaper interests), the London Commodity Exchange and the London Metal Exchange. It is literally the financial hub of the world...
Covering an area of 677 acres or one square mile (known as the wealthiest square mile on Earth), the City is ruled by a Lord Mayor who is personally apppointed by the Rothschilds. 'The City' is, in its own right, a sovereign state existing within the confines of the larger city of London per se', much like the Vatican is within the city of Rome.
The United Kingdom (as well as the entire European Union), is controlled, directed and governed by the powers that be within 'the City'. The British throne (the Crown), the prime minister and the UK Parliament are all fronts for the Rothschild Empire, as will the European Commission, Council and Parliament be when the EU assumes its role as global headquarters for One World Government in the not to distant future.
The fact that the richest, most powerful dynasty in the world is Jewish should explain why the current international terrorist network operates out of the US/British/Israeli triad; the very heart of International Jewry. However, the Rothschild Empire has no love for jews in general, as they were the principal financier of Hitler's Germany and the prime cause for the Nazi Holocaust. International geo-strategic and geo-political 'one world' interests come first, from their perspective.
Al-Qaida and the US/EU/Israeli so-called 'War on Terror' are all funded and directed by this International Zionist Cabal of Jewish Financiers based in London. At issue here is the use of raw force to dictate 'one world' strategem for economic and political consolidation, as well as to control and defend the empire against the masses of hungry, desperate and angry peoples of the world, whose ranks are growing rapidly.
That the Rothschilds control, influence and direct international intelligence agencies such as the CIA, NSA, GCHQ, Mossad and M16 etc...is practically a given. In fact, such a worldwide intelligence network has been the very secret, or key, to its phenomenal rise to global power this past half century.
There are only 5 nations in the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Cuba and Libya. Enter the so-called 'war on terror' and the real international jewish terrorist modus operendi that is about to strike Iran as they did Iraq, who was previously on that short list, but is no more.
Today, the USA is currently being set up for the fall. Targets: anti-'One World' US patriots, American freedom and independence, the US Bill of Rights, The US dollar and New York City- London's chief financial rival for world economic control, dominance and authority. NYC will most likely be "nuked" by this International Jewish Terrorist Network (under the guise of CIA/M16/Mossad sponsored Al Qaida) once America has run its course for the Jew World Order.
The very nature of securing and maintaining international power, from their perspective, is to employ every kind of diabolical, insidious, wicked and evil means of deceit, deception and terror (the motto for Israel's Mossad is 'by way of deception') in order to effectively procure their rule and reign on Earth- and this they do without remorse.
The state of Israel, though, is the crown jewel of international jewish world plans to assume the throne of global dictate. Ceasar, Fuhrer, King, Prince... whatever name or title one confers, it is a near certainty that he who will rule from Jerusalem will emerge from the House of Rothschild- the very root of international jewish terrorism.
The Anti-Christ will be Jew, sure to be a Man of fierce countenance, when he proclaims himself 'god' of this world at the end of history.
Selah,
Jonas the Prophet
Planet Earth
http://jonahtheprophet.tk
Jonas the Prophet, Too many exaggerations and distortions in your diatribe. I've read it all and then some. The Jews were even blamed for the bubonic plague in Europe during the Middle Ages. The ignorant usually look for a weak scapegoat to blame their problems on, rather than looking within themselves in recognizing their own shortcomings.
Most of the Jewish people I know are ashamed of the Israeli disregard for Palestinian people, and are liberal and progressive.
Most German people were not Nazis, either, as it was forced on them.
Bigotry is bigotry, and when we understand ourselves better, we can make peace with everyone else.
"Most of the Jewish people I know are ashamed of the Israeli disregard for Palestinian people, and are liberal and progressive."
Why did they vote for Netanyahu/Lieberman then?
EZ, I'm talking about Jewish-Americans, not the Israelis. The Likud Party is their version of the Nazi Party.
A friend of mine was in Gaza recently with a female American Zionist. After a tour of Gaza, and seeing firsthand, the death, destruction, misery, and suffering, as well as discrimination and apartheid- like conditions the Israelis imposed on the Palestinians, she said, "I'm not a Zionist anymore!" That's just one example. I've seen plenty of Jewish people in the peace movement and they are critical of the right-wing fanatics in Tel Aviv.
Why assume that the "jewish" people he knows are Israelis?
Nice job.
Jonas the Prophet;
Don't plagerize the 'Protocols of the Elder's of Zion'. It's in very poor taste. As for the rest of your delusional post: go soak your head.
As cruel as this may sound, maybe the best solution is to let Israel bomb Iran.
Iran will retaliate with chemical rockets on Israel, then Israel will nuke Iran, then Russia will nuke Israel, then the USA will nuke Russia. End of the game.
Then the survivors, if there are any will, rebuild humankind, and hopefully learn the lesson of cooperation instead of confrontation.
Of course, the most probable result of an attack will be the extinction of humankind.
Have a nice day. You elected the bozos running these governments.
No. It would stop at Israel nuking Iran (If it ever got that far). The Russians aren't crazy, amd the US nuclear umbrella should not cover allies who commit wars of aggression and nuclear atrocities. At that point the UN would authorize a military takeover of Israel with whatever force necessary. US and Russian troops would be on the same side. The Israeli miltary would be ordered to stand down or be cut to pieces, and martial law would be in place until an accord between Israelis and Palestinians is reached.
Israel/Palestine would become a weapons free zone overseen by the UN and enforced and protected by an international armed force.
bbr-001,
Read Barbara Tuckman,
Two books of hers show that my predictions are very probable.
"Guns of August" and "March of Folly."
By way of reference, here are the two most relevant articles to the NPT:
Iran has not been found in violation of Article IV:
ARTICLE IV
1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of this Treaty.
2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in. the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also cooperate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.
The US is in obvious violation of this one:
ARTICLE VI
Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.
(The most recent QDR outlines plans to improve our nuclear arsenal, not to move towards towards "complete disarmament.")
Israel, Pakistan and India, each with nuclear arsenals, all refuse to participate in the NPT, with direct support from the US, further undermining the NPT treaty.
http://www.un.org/events/npt2005/npttreaty.html
And obama stands ready to just let this happen as another way of invading another sovereign country that is NOT violating the NPT but adhering to it to have nuclear power so to sell THEIR oil to whom they want to sell it. This is an oil boy's wish. Not to mention a 'secret' way to continue the imperial endeavors of this country. And besides, obama had already given american permission(as if that was really needed) to do so even when he wasn't the dems nominee for president but readily cozied up to izrael and their false fear of a nuclear weapons program that never was, just like iraq. More money for obama's backers and izrael also.
Why does obama NOT confer with Scott Ritter on this? Oh, of course, Ritter would tell obama that there was not a weapons program. Just proving that IZRAEL IS THE BIGGEST TERRORIST NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST, next to saudi arabia.
If Israel bombs Iran, that's when I head to CafePress to make up some Boycott Israel bumperstickers for my car.
Words cannot describe the revulsion I already feel in regards to the cluster bombing of Lebanon and the genocidal glee with which they seem to approach Gaza and the Palestinian "problem". If they attack Iran I will have to do what little I can to start raising some awareness in my little corner of the USA.
Obama told us he is ready to use diplomacy rather then bombs. It is time to let Israel know that we will not let it drag us into Netanyahu,s irrational war. No more military aid. A two state solution in the middle east is the only way.
Remember Tony Blair's headline-grabbing claim that Iraq could deploy weapons of mass destruction within 45 minutes of an order to do so?
And now we read: "Israel to go to war with Iran hours after order."
Will AIPAC drag America into a THIRD unwinnable war of agpression?
It's high time to shine the ARCLIGHT on Tel Aviv!
Not too late to say, "If Israel bombs Iran they will go it alone. No further aid of any kind."
If they bomb, some possibilities then are that US Zionists will have to dig way deeper to support Israel (lotsa luck). Bibibush/Aviggerdick will be pariahs everywhere, particularly to the US public who will turn against all jewish and Zionist-sympathizing politicians. Angry Arabs will depose their US allied Kings and buy more weapons and black market nukes to attack US and Israel. Wars will escalate and further destroy our economy. Gas prices will skyrocket. Israel will be uniformly hated, condemned and isolated worldwide. WWIII and nuclear holocaust won't be long in coming, and we'll all get raptured into heaven.
And then the leaders of the Zionist entity, Israel, will say to a beleagered American Jewry, "We did it for you, so that Jews in America will be forced to immigrate here, thereby enabling us to get out from under these increasingly unfavorable demographics." No surprise this, since it's exactly what Zionist leaders did to Eastern Europe's Jews during the Holocaust, as they saw to it that, except for Palestine, all escape destinations were closed to Jews; and, as a result, thousands of Jews perished who, otherwise, would have found sanctuary in the West. Something about history repeating itself, first as tragedy, then as farce?
The Hopi Prophet saw this land pretty much being burned off the face of the earth by man made fire long long long ago. The Hopi did not seek any knowledge to build such things as they would think anyone who would build such things to be pretty stupid.
But the possible reality of that which they saw became a reality in the 1940's.
Now the prophecies of the Israelites say the devil will rain down fire upon the earth. Fire from bombs that came into being through the increase of knowledge that God spoke about but not in any good light at all.
And yet people Marvel over all of man's new technology even though God spoke about the increase of knowledge but not in any good light at all. The Prophecies of the Israelites say the devil will come with all lying signs and wonders as the devil wants people to marvel over his world.
Our Native prophecies foretold the coming of the Europeans and that they would say Love & Peace, but would cause the Tribes great misery while they built their Snake World. But that is not indicitive of all Europeans as the Seventh Day Adventists thought your Govt was the Beast the Revelation when they were swiping the land so they were looking at things that were happening from a Prophetic Viewpoint so what was happening wasn't indicitive of all Europeans.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
None Of Us Will Be Free Until The Last Chain Is Broken
"Based on?"
"Give me liberty or give me death."
"And the settler-entity Israel?"
"That last chain?"
"Based on?"
One victory, that's all it'll take."
from Chapter One Article 2 of the United Nations Charter -
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
If israel attacks Iran, the blowback in Iraq, AfPak, the Sheikdoms, w/ Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, et al will be a firestorm.
And who will it hurt?
Who will die?
Arabs & Americans This is Policy.
In Iraq a million Arabs are slaughtered and scattered to the winds.
The cost? A trillion US dollars & Swimming pools of American blood. Israel's Policy.
Attacking Iran will cause RIVERS of blood to flow. But NOT Jewish blood! VICTORY for israel but it's just Policy Mr. Dead American, Mr. Dead Arab, Dead Persian. Dead Baby. ZioPolicy.
US BLUES
The term "blowback" actually refers to the situation where a violent insurgent group, which is covertly supported by the CIA to meet an immediate political objective, then turn on the US once their usefulness to the USA is over. The CIA likes to think of this - in their racist/imperialist minds, as an ungrateful dog biting the hands that feed him, but most of the time, the insurgents have been planning in such a course of action all along and it it the US that falls into their trap.
The Afghnanistan Muhajeedin/Al Queda and their Sept 11 attacks are the most well-known case of covert foreign policy action blowback. But the day may come when Isreal presents the US with a case of blowback that makes Sept 11 look like candy store shoplifting.
Damn Leftists, read books know stuff ask questions and think.
Hell, Dialectics is a Felony in 32 states. And Sir, Logomachy? Shucks, we git caught say Howdy Super-Max. That'd be an "unintended negative consequence of an action or policy" my kin call that 'blowback' but we cain't read er right. Fact is this here is one a them programs I talk IT types.
You done typed one smart post. The most Violent Insurgent group i know is the IDF, they a Gang you heard of them? But I am SO confused a lot. I hear them Israeli's wants to BOMB I-ran,
BUT LEFTIST, in HAARETZ TO-DAY, on the FRONT page right NOW at the TOP they got a advertisment fer ta "MEET SEXY I-RANIANS!" Now how the HELL they gonna git DATES if they BOMBING 'em to death? Girls don' like that.
HAAERTZ. Front Page. Now.
Meet Sexy Iranians.
I normally do not respond to an obviously insincere and possibly disturbed poster like this one. But for everyone else:
The "singles ad" to which Mr. Moron refers is ,in reality, titled "The Arab Lounge" and is for arab readers of that paper, offering listings for all types of arab speaking singles, Iranians being only one such.
http://arablounge.com/?affiliateID=gg_cont_usa&gclid=CND-8NvA_5kCFRBbagodswmmFA
One must be very careful when reading posts that originate under rocks.
I now return to the blissful state of ignoring him.
Could not resist Red Rick?
Stay off the bottom of my shoes.,
The ad was there .
It was funny, and I mentioned it for the sake of levity. Your jump into my world with ugliness is Old News "ardee". Yawn.
Red Rick, have you QUIT working for PG&E? A monopoly utility that screws us poor people, donated a quarter mill to defeat prop 8, and out of 9 Billion grossed last year made 4.5 billion profit? PG&E is the 200th biggest corporation in the US, effs the common man, and you "work FOR" them-that means against people. They charge above market rates, screw their millions of customers, helped bankrupt California, poisoned water and killed people, and gave them Cancer & caused Birth Defects. But the MONEY IS GOOD?
King Of The Insults, got kicked off CD for insulting people as ardee, came back as Red Rick, but can't change-
So bye ardee/Red Rick, did you like that movie they made about YOUR corporation?
With all the Birth Defects and Suffering and Death and Cancer?
So funny, you of the moral high ground, nothing but an ugly predatory corporation's drone. You got NO more moral high ground, literally, than the birth defects your corporation is responsible for. ZERO.
Joe.
Ranting and raving so defines you and proves my point as well, thanks so much for doing so. Unlike you I posted a link to the very paper and the regular feature to which you misconstrue intent. What a sad and sorry little fellow you are.
The world has gone mad, mad I say, mad!!!!
Iran is in a military alliance with Russia and China. This could very easily fall into a global war. Israel has succeeded at turning the presidents of the greatest nation in history into it's lapdogs. They have made Senators afraid to say anything remotely truthful that would not be approved of by the israeli government, regardless how destructive of US interests their silence was. Israel has hijacked our entire democratic process, letting it be known that any politician that doesn't submit to their will will be destroyed.
Obama won the election despite a massive effort by the Israeli government to destroy him and support McCain, they turned around and tried to make it look like they supported Obama all along: never ending deceptions. This is an embarrassment and tantamount to high treason to allow a foreign power to run our government like it's a puppet on a string. Congress and the White House must end this hijacking of our government.
There are plenty of good people in Israel that we should give our support to and they don't have any interest in hijacking our political system. They just need support from good people like us in the USA. The criminals have taken over Israel almost since day one. Isreali military used to call their dogs "George Bush" as it was thought he was their lapdog and there are even recordings in the Knesset with likud(ultranationalist fascists) stating clearly that Bush was under their complete control, even calling him "their lapdog".
We need to turn this around, turn Israel upside down and put the good people in charge and the bad one's away. We need to let Israel know that we are in charge, it is in the best interest of both countries and the American people would rally around politicians that stood up to the Israeli mobsters of today. The American people are aware of what is going on despite the twisted media's portrayal otherwise.
The article doesn't mention it but a friend told me that Biden made it very clear to Israel that it should take no action against Iran.
Biden once said," I'm a zionist but the place for israeli spies is in US prisons". He is a true patriot. Translation, " I support the right of Israel to exist but within proper and decent borders and rules of behavior and conduct, and I won't sell out my country's interests to the israeli fascist machine." Well that was a rough translation.
Let's hope the experience and integrity of Joe Biden will cool things off. Obama is still in the middle of on-the-job-training and it's unclear how independent he is of campaign money.
Inherently, our problem is one of mindless religion. Our insistence of tolerating the "creep" of hebrew god worship into government has made the world a much less stable place.
If you ask me, all religion is a mental disorder. Return to a secular government will do a lot to muting these zealots.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Bombing Iran will be more problematic than attacking a defensive less Lebanon. Since the United States needless attack and occupation of Iraq only strengthened Iran’s hand in the Middle East, it will be interesting to see the fall out from Israel’s attacking Iran.
It will be a real test of Israel’s political power in the United States. Conventional wisdom says that the U.S. will fall in line behind them. But could it be that this move will place the whole world against Israel and the United States? Israel lost zero lives in Iraq and Afghanistan, unwilling to join the willing. Of course, they were given a pass because of the sensitive Moslems who would not appreciate Israel fighting alongside their staunchest ally. Not that many were unable to see the Zionist connection in that the Bush real claim to terrorism against Iraq was its aid to families of Palestinian martyrs.
But here is wrinkle worth thinking about. The Obama Administration has warned Israel not to attack Iran. What if an American President did the right thing and stood up to Israel’s aggression? An Israeli attack will only strengthen Iran’s case that they need to become a greater military power to check Israel’s lack of constraint.
Much of the world understands that Iran is being forced to attain a nuclear threat because of Israel’s wildly aggressive foreign policy. They will only confirm this by a preemptive attack on Iran.
This article was published some time ago. Some of the links have disappeared now, but the article is worth reading when contemplating nuking Iran or anybody else in the Middle East.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2093
We are looking down the throat of an unimaginable disaster if a modicum of sanity cannot be brought to the forefront. I have not seen any evidence of this in recent years, more especially since January 20th of this year when many were actually expecting it.
The nuclear installations are located all over Iran, and far underground. Bombing would surely send radiation all over the country, as well as the Middle East In a report by The National Research Council "bunker busters", armed with depleted uranium tips, and developed to destroy enemies underground says that these weapons are flawed. The weapons could not go deep enough to elimnate fallout, and victims in a nearby city could range from a few hundred to more than a million. The Pentagon in 2005 proposed the sale of 100 of these bombs, named the GBU-28 to Israel, Although they are said to be non0nuclear, it is known that, when armed with a DU tip, they are more effective. And a report from Corp Watch Canada lists the GBU-28 bombs as containing 1.5 metric tons of DU. Non-nuclear!
Is Israel suicidal? or trying to divert attention from the massacre in Gaza by threatening another one in Iran? Or or they so deluded by their victories over helpless people they think they will always escape "blowback"
Please, may we start to work as hard for peace as we do for war
Israel Stands Ready to Bomb Iran's Nuclear Sites
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• Dog Bites Man
• Teething Infant Drools Copiously
• Yellow-White Incandescent Orb Rising Over Eastern Horizon Identified as "Sun"
· Yr Obd't Servant
Is it time to remind everyone that Iran's constitution forbids pre-emptive warfare?
What about the global retaliation that Israel's sole supporter would face?
from Haaretz -- "Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them"
I am at a loss for words when I read something like this in an Israeli news item.
USA, Israel, and England are all guilty of aiding and abbedding state-sponsered terrorism--with their Zionistic plots against their Arab,and Muslem neighbors--not only in Palestine--but throughout the Middle East. It is way past time that these thieves and murderers get their day in court, and the people of the area have some liberation--that's my prayer this Sabbath, Amen
Ther's no peace without Justice...What we need right now is Justice--that would be a real change I could believe in.
CQ from Maine
Sow doubt.
Faith in the afterlife is the problem. From the chosen people through the virgins of paradise to the rapture and the endtimes (that covers the believers in the abrahamic traditions), people who have purchased stock in the afterlife don't seem to care much about living this one. People believe any crazy thing they are told by anyone with a long beard, a strong voice, a good hat and a faraway look in their eye. Whether it is in the belief itself or the war industry behind it--the money men will have their money--tax free mostly.
The idea of a religion and a country being coterminous is medieval.
So get ready. We are all likely to go up in flames because of it. And when it is over let's. . .sow some doubt.
The real Axis of evil is Israel and the U.S. I predict suicide for Israel if they attack Iran, because Russia has billions of $ invested in Iran and Iran is not a weak country like Iraq.
Agreed. Iran is far from defenseless and may have lots of new Russian toys.
This is all part of a last ditch effort by the fascist zionist pigs, to hang on to their ill gotten country. They have seen the writing on the wall. Like Adolph Hitler the zionists would rather see complete annihilation than reason and peace. Like the Turd Reich, Israel exists only by way of war.
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Russia and China will try and condemn this Israeli action in the UN Security Council and the US will veto it. And so goes the international "rule of law" as it pertains to Israel. What a convenient way to carry on! The US supplies Israel with all the weapons it needs to carry out its dirty deeds and then does nothing to stop it.
I hope the whole world stands against the terrorist state of Israel. At least Russia and China, hopefully, will tell Israel to back off. Israel has clearly demonstrated it's diabolical and evil bid for violence and destruction with what they just did to the Gazan citizens! And now they want to escalate the violence into what could become the appocalypse! They are fundamentalist terrorists!
Why does it make sense to furnish Israel enough nukes to start WW Three and then threaten to bomb every other country on the globe for maybe getting one some day like we did Iraq? If the Jews start something, we can take the blame for it.
Lehman Brothers, the queen, the Mormon affiliates, they all are heavily invested in uranium. Greed makes the uranium go pop and the rest of the world be damned.
It is mind boggling that we have a situation where the United States, admittedly the most powerful nation on earth, is afraid to tell Israel that an attack on a foreign nation based on some future threat is forbidden. Don't even think about it and here is what we will do to you if the attack occurs. Yet the President stands timidly by awaiting a conflagration that will hurt the entire world, and involve us further into endless war. For the military to suggest that the only consequence is that an Israel attack will do little to stop Iran is cowardly because it does not make clear what Israel cannot and must not do.
petkrop has it right. All goes back to our election process with bought and paid for politicians.
Herman Schmidt
Herman, There is a famous quote from 1826, regarding the Bank of England.
"Alow me to issue and control a nation's currency, and I care not who makes its laws."
Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
The same swindlers and shysters who helped create this pandemic economic catastrophe were rewarded by Obama. Look at his financial advisors and some of his cabinet positions. Money talks, very loudly!
So would that possibly be evidence of a connection between Zionists banksters
the creation of the "state" of Israel
and the fleecing by banksters of several trillion$ of the world economy
and ◎ look, P O O F _ our place in the world is dropping fast
We love to discuss conspiracies of Jewish/Zionist bankers running the world, BUT WE'RE NOT ANTISEMITIC!
Hey, it's roadkill! Why do you respond to this idiot, but not to the points made above? Are you unable to refute the claims made by myself and many others?
I thought you went off to register a new name...
sorry to have gotten your panty rings all in a twist, but it appears that you do like it.
Sorry dude, if I really believed that the jews ran the world I'd convert to judaism. The idea is laughable that any group actually controls this planet sized mental home. Especially a group as small as the jews are.
BTW, what on earth are panty rings?
You're Mz Saturn, and you ask me about "rings" ?
And as far as controlling the world, I've already clarified that I never said that ( which is an often used logical fallacy used by those who cannot afford to actually use logic and facts to win arguments -- a Straw man -- on fire, as it were ).
So if a few Zionist Banksters do exist, and influence the global economy significantly, due to owning or controlling tens of billions, that pretty much proves my point.
As far as "just business" in the godfather sense goes, I'm sure mere influence at that level is more powerful than most could imagine, even considering that most of their "bankster peers" are not either Jewish nor even remotely religious.
Time for you to get back up on your turnip truck …
Namaste
Guy actually. Saturnalia refers to the ancient winter festival that the Romans held before xtianity.
Also, I'm sorry I misread your post. After posting my reply I did wonder who was using Namaste's name... My bad.
Yeh, Mr Saturnalia does sound pretty impressive and imposing, and although guys have been known to wear rings and I did know all about the solstice ceremony long ago -- I felt that I had an important job to do responding to your barbs.
Not to worry, as Saturn is still the 3rd largest ball of gas in the solar system, and perhaps the most beautiful next to the Earth & Sun.
B T W, the whole tit for tat strategy that I tend to follow is outlined at time stamp [ powerfully_true April 19th, 2009 12:55 am ] here:
Denormalizing the Signs of Impending Disaster
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/04/18-8
Namaste