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Released Memos Could Lead to More Disclosures
WASHINGTON - Even as President Obama urges the country to turn the page, his decision to reveal exhaustive details about interrogation methods used by the Central Intelligence Agency will likely lead to a flood of new disclosures about secret Bush administration operations against Al Qaeda, according to current and former government officials.
With lawsuits pending in federal courts and lawmakers calling for extensive inquiries into controversial Bush Administration programs, Mr. Obama now faces a difficult challenge making good on his promise to protect intelligence operatives from legal jeopardy.
Some members of Congress and human rights lawyers are likely to press for new disclosures about the period of several months in 2002 when C.I.A. interrogators began interrogating Abu Zubaydah, a Qaeda operative captured in March of that year.
Rep. John Conyers, the Michigan Democrat who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, on Friday raised the prospect of prosecutions of senior Bush Administration officials and Justice Department lawyers who authorized the harsh interrogations.
"If our leaders are found to have violated the strict laws against torture, either by ordering these techniques without proper legal authority or by knowingly crafting legal fictions to justify torture, they should be criminally prosecuted," he said in a written statement.
The American Civil Liberties Union, whose lawsuit forced the release of the Justice Department memos Thursday, plans to press the Justice Department to release other classified documents from the Bush era, including a 2004 C.I.A. inspector general's report containing details about the C.I.A. officers who exceeded Justice Department interrogation guidelines.
"These are the first dominoes," said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU lawyer. "It will be difficult for the new administration to now argue that other documents can be lawfully withheld."
Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, raised this very prospect in recent meetings with White House officials as he pressed his case to withhold sensitive details from public release of the Justice Department memos.
In a statement to the C.I.A. workforce on Thursday, Mr. Panetta said the release of the Justice Department memos "is not the end of the road on these issues."
"More requests will come - from the public, from Congress, and the Courts - and more information is sure to be released," the statement said. Agency officials are now worried that the revelations could play into demands by lawmakers for extensive investigations on Capitol Hill and elsewhere. C.I.A. officers could even be called to testify in public about their role in detention and interrogation operations.
"The ones most involved in counterterrorism feel that they have very exposed flanks in terms of both their personal and professional futures," said one senior Bush Administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
In the memos, in dozens of pages of dispassionate legal prose, the methods approved by the Bush administration for extracting information from senior operatives of Al Qaeda were spelled out in careful detail - like keeping detainees awake for up to 11 straight days, placing them in a dark, cramped box or putting insects into the box to exploit their fears.
The interrogation methods were authorized beginning in 2002, and some were used as late as 2005 in the C.I.A.'s secret overseas prisons. The techniques were among the Bush administration's most closely guarded secrets, and the documents released on Thursday were the most comprehensive public accounting to date of the program.
Some senior Obama administration officials, including Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., have labeled one of the 14 approved techniques, waterboarding, illegal torture. The United States prosecuted some Japanese interrogators at war crimes trials after World War II for waterboarding and other methods detailed in the memos.
The release of the documents came after a bitter debate that divided the Obama administration, with the C.I.A. opposing the Justice Department's proposal to air the details of the agency's long-secret program. Fueling the urgency of the discussion was Thursday's court deadline in the lawsuit filed by the A.C.L.U.
Together, the four memos give an extraordinarily detailed account of the C.I.A.'s methods and the Justice Department's long struggle, in the face of graphic descriptions of brutal tactics, to square them with international and domestic law. Passages describing forced nudity, the slamming of detainees into walls, prolonged sleep deprivation and the dousing of detainees with water as cold as 41 degrees alternate with elaborate legal arguments concerning the international Convention Against Torture.
The documents were released with minimal redactions, indicating that President Obama sided against current and former C.I.A. officials who for weeks had pressed the White House to withhold details about specific interrogation techniques. Mr. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, had argued that revealing such information set a dangerous precedent for future disclosures of intelligence sources and methods.
Within minutes of the release of the memos, Senator Patrick J. Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that the memos illustrated the need for his proposed independent commission of inquiry, which would offer immunity in return for candid testimony.
Mr. Obama condemned what he called a "dark and painful chapter in our history" and said that the interrogation techniques would never be used again. But he also repeated his opposition to a lengthy inquiry into the program, saying that "nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."
Mr. Obama said that C.I.A. officers who were acting on the Justice Department's legal advice would not be prosecuted, but he left open the possibility that anyone who acted without legal authorization could still face criminal penalties. He did not address whether lawyers who authorized the use of the interrogation techniques should face some kind of penalty.
The four legal opinions were written in 2002 and 2005 by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, the highest authority in interpreting the law in the executive branch.
The first of the memos, from August 2002, was signed by Jay S. Bybee, who oversaw the Office of Legal Counsel, and gave the C.I.A. its first detailed legal approval for waterboarding and other harsh treatment. Three others, signed by Steven G. Bradbury, sought to reassure the agency in May 2005 that its methods were still legal, even when multiple methods were used in combination, and despite the prohibition in international law against "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment.
All legal opinions on interrogation were revoked by Mr. Obama on his second day in office, when he also outlawed harsh interrogations and ordered the C.I.A.'s secret prisons closed.
In the memos, the Justice Department authors emphasized precautions the C.I.A. proposed to take, including monitoring by medical personnel, and the urgency of getting information to stop terrorist attacks. They recounted the C.I.A.'s assertions of the effectiveness of the techniques but noted that interrogators could not always tell a prisoner who was withholding information from one who had no more information to offer.
The memos include what in effect are lengthy excerpts from the agency's interrogation manual, laying out with precision how each method was to be used. Waterboarding, for example, involved strapping a prisoner to a gurney inclined at an angle of "10 to 15 degrees" and pouring water over a cloth covering his nose and mouth "from a height of approximately 6 to 18 inches" for no more than 40 seconds at a time.
But a footnote to a 2005 memo made it clear that the rules were not always followed. Waterboarding was used "with far greater frequency than initially indicated" and with "large volumes of water" rather than the small quantities in the rules, one memo says, citing a 2004 report by the C.I.A.'s inspector general.
Most of the methods have been previously described in news accounts and in a 2006 report of the International Committee of the Red Cross, which interviewed 14 detainees. But one previously unknown tactic the C.I.A. proposed - but never used - against Abu Zubaydah, a terrorist operative, involved exploiting what was thought to be his fear of insects.
"As we understand it, you plan to inform Zubaydah that you are going to place a stinging insect into the box, but you will actually place a harmless insect in the box, such as a caterpillar," one memo says.
Mr. Bybee, Mr. Bradbury and John Yoo, who was the leading author of the 2002 interrogation memos, are the subjects of an investigation by the Justice Department's ethics office about their legal analysis on interrogation. Officials have described the draft ethics report, by the Office of Professional Responsibility, as highly critical, but its completion has been delayed to allow the subjects a chance to respond.
The A.C.L.U. said the memos clearly describe criminal conduct and underscore the need to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate who authorized and carried out torture.
But Dennis C. Blair, the director of national intelligence, cautioned that the memos were written at a time when C.I.A. officers were frantically working to prevent a repeat of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
"Those methods, read on a bright, sunny, safe day in April 2009, appear graphic and disturbing," said Mr. Blair in a written statement. "But we will absolutely defend those who relied on these memos."- Posted in
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Show AllDoes anyone really believe that this government has any credibility to right the wrongs of former rulers? I think not when they themselves are dirty as sin. Murder is their goal and torture is just a prelude to killing a suspect. It satisfies the crimminal mind. When I watched the film of the killing of those eight nurses in Chicago by Richard Speck I was immediately reminded of how this governement operates. They are pathological liers and they will stop at nothing to satisfy their diabolical plan for eliminating most of us!
Ding, ding, ding! Medication Time!
"Bush Administration memos released by the White House on Thursday provide new insight into claims that American agents used insects to torture the young children of alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed."
May the Bush-Cheney Administration and their offspring always sleep with a tiny mosquito.
Obama says that he will not prosecute those who acted in good faith, that this policy was legal. hopefully, this means that we will not make the privates and sergeants scapegoats, but will get to the bottom of this (actually to the top of the torture chain, and let the trials and convictions begin.
I am surprised that in the entire US there is not a single US attorney (prosecutor) with the balls to actually indict any of these people involved in torture. These prosecutors are so busy going after someone who may have smoked a joint or god forbid, a woman on welfare supplemented her income by working additional job. Now those are serious felonies, which if not prosecuted would damage our society. I guess none of these prosecutors who took the oath to uphold the Constitution have time or the requisite courage to issue indictments against the tortures of human beings and of our Constitution.
our Weasel-in-Chief, who has chosen to become an accessory after the fact by obstructing justice; he, however, seems to believe that justice is whatever he says it is. Most progressives are understandably outraged that a president they once thought was one of them has become such a quisling.
Drugs possession violators harm only themselves, common criminals harm one person or a small number of people, but war criminals harm the nation. Not only are their actions manifestly unlawful and ethically repulsive, but military and intelligence sources admit that they are a recruiting boon to terrorists and have done nothing at all to enhance our security. Our allies are dismayed and wary of cooperating with us, and anti-Americanism is on the rise worldwide.
Obama's Nixonian justification that it's all right to commit egregious crimes if the president ordered it is disgusting, not to say fascist. Surely these well educated goons knew that slamming heads into walls, binding people in positions calculated to damage nerves and joints, disappearing people and, in dozens of cases torturing them to death, was a crime.
There is thus no accountability, no deterrent to future atrocities, no acknowledgment of the suffering, humanity and rights of the victims, no signal to our friends and enemies that we care about human rights.
The US should immediately quit its effort to obtain a UN Human Rights seat, stop publishing human rights reports and speaking out about other nations' atrocities, and sit in the rogues' gallery in ignominious silence with Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea and, yes, Israel.
By the way Obama, according to his dubious logic, owes Lynndie England and Charles Graner a pardon.
I don't know if releasing the memos will lead to any prosecutions or not but I bet it will lead to several new terrorists attacks and deaths of innocent Americans. Obama is a fool. There comes a time in life when we must make tough choices, luckily for most of you it never comes down to the lives of your countrymen or the lives of ruthless killers like Al Qaeda. But for some like Bush he choose to protect the lives of the people he was elected to protect. Obama should do the same but he doesn't have the guts to do make the tough choice. Instead it will probably result in the deaths of thousands of Americans but we all know he'll blame that on the republicans too.
hey ...i know keith obermann wants the cia guys that actually employed this stuff to be tried....my take is quit 'f'ing around and grab that idiot bush with cheney and all these minions or the 'cabal' that basically approved and order this sh** right by the throat and haul their a** to court. BUSH AND THOSE OTHER IDIOTS ARE TRAITORS!!!!!! i mean how stupid are you people. that idiot bush did all this sh** in the name of the american people. and what they did was PROFIT by it. they made a ton of money. thats what this sh**s all about. the right-wingers will say ohhh 911 ohh geezz look out... we had to do everything we did to look out....thats bullsh**!!! thats like your kid tellin' you a story so he doesnt get in trouble. jesus, youve been hearing this crap and theres a very small minority thats still believes all that bullsh**! those idiot rightwingers still believe that saddam hussein was involved in the planning and the action of 911. they still believe that sh**!!. theyre morons, and will never accept the truth. well, all those involved in the conduct of the last 8yrs and thats 8yrs of lying through their teeth in order to profit and manipulate whats happened needs to be tried for treason and HUNG! and dont puss out and say ohh we cant do that... get convictions and run them right to the oak tree...and while theyre say ohh ohh woow baa baa baa wa wa-wait!! while the noose is being fitted no last words just kick the chair. what this is, is right up these rightwingers "we're americans!" attitude.. its a perfect object lesson that if you do this sh** again...your gonna be hung!!! old west style!!! now that theyll understand!!!
Folks, this may come as a shock but Obama is neither a dictator nor a messiah. We are watching a master chess player at work who must deal with a snake pit of Machiavellian enemies, demanding and disillusioned supporters and an idealistic populace who want 8 years of broken government restored to some semblance of sanity RIGHT NOW! I am thoroughly enjoying watching the master work his mojo. Don't forget that one of Obama's heroes is Roosevelt who famously said to his constituents, "I agree with you, now go out and make me do it." Have you noticed that the torture memos have come out in dribs and drabs, each one more heinous than the last? Have you not seen the momentum building for retribution? Let's keep up the pressure, it's the only way to achieve results.
"I am thoroughly enjoying watching the master work his mojo."
I agree with you here Majik..."A master chess player at work" indeed. Every time I thought I had this President figured out he proved me wrong. A brilliant politician with a style of his own........
Brilliant!
majik, you're probably on to something. he's struck a match to a huge brush pile laced with kerosene. now, he's taking a step back to see where the wind takes it. one can only hope.
on to you, mr. conyers, and so i don't bore you with the details, only a memo excerpt, of which hopefully you are aware of by now, would "... and we therefore conclude that its authorized use by an adequately trained interrogator could not reasonably be considered specifically intended to do so" qualify for what you assess to be "... knowingly crafting legal fictions to justify torture..."?????????????????????????????????? if so, then its time to start shaking the trees and rattling the bones. in other words, get off your elected ass and start doing something about it.
I think it is time for some calls to the White House. I agree with Majik and lino--- after some study, I will be calling the President's staff, asking them to reconsider no prosecutions for torture.
We need to make President Obama do his job. After all he has told us he works for the American people.
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