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Nationalizing Troubled Banks May Be the Only Answer
WASHINGTON - Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan thinks it's necessary. His successor, Ben Bernanke, doesn't rule it out. From editorial pages to the blogosphere to boardrooms, this is the question on many minds: Should the United States nationalize some banks?
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke delivers remarks at a luncheon at the National Press Club in Washington, February 18, 2009.(Jonathan Ernst/Reuters) A few months ago, it would have been heretical to suggest that Bank of America could become Bank Owned by America. Now, however, the U.S. economy is sinking faster than anyone thought possible, and respected economic authorities are suggesting that temporary bank nationalization, once the domain of Third World basket cases, could be the best solution.
"It may be necessary to temporarily nationalize some banks in order to facilitate a swift and orderly restructuring," Greenspan, the long-revered sage of free-market theory, told London's Financial Times in an interview published Wednesday. "I understand that once in a hundred years this is what you do."
When Bernanke was asked whether he shared his predecessor's views, he didn't distance himself from them during a question session Wednesday at the National Press Club. He answered as if nationalization were inevitable, after first listing some of the problems it would entail.
"Well, I think as a general rule, it's very challenging for governments to manage banks for a protracted period. And there's the additional problem that if you have a government-run institution, that you tend to lose the franchise value, that the counterparties and others don't want to deal with you because they don't know your future," Bernanke said. "So I think whatever actions may need to be taken at one point or another, I think there's a very strong commitment on the part of the administration to try to return banks or keep banks private or return them to private hands as quickly as possible."
The term "nationalization" conjures images of the communist Soviet Union or corrupt Latin American dictatorships, but advocates of nationalizing U.S. banks envision a seizure of big banks on the grounds that they're already insolvent except for some accounting sleight of hand.
Banks are sitting on trillions of dollars worth of complex securities, backed by U.S. mortgages that are going into default as more and more homes are now worth less than the mortgages on them. If banks were forced to put present-day values on these securities instead of hold-to-maturity values, their liabilities would far exceed their assets. They'd be insolvent.
What's needed, nationalization advocates argue, is for the government to seize Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and other large banks, carve out their bad assets, then break them into smaller pieces for quick sale to the private sector.
"Nationalization is the only option that would permit us to solve the problem of toxic assets in an orderly fashion and finally allow lending to resume," Nouriel Roubini, a prominent New York University economist, wrote in an opinion piece Feb. 15 in The Washington Post. "Of course, the economy would still stink, but the death spiral we are in would end."
Other analysts think that nationalization is all but inevitable.
"It's very hard when you get to this point not to do that," said Adam Posen, the deputy director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a free-market research center. Posen thinks that nationalization is losing its stigma, and he envisions scenarios in which the government could seize the nation's 50 largest banks.
Most depositors would be safe, since their deposits are insured up to $250,000. Stockholders probably would be wiped out, and bondholders eventually would get shares of any new company. The government could even make money on some seizures, if history is any guide.
Roubini and Posen think that a bold, drastic step is inescapable, and that a failure to take it now would only make it costlier and more difficult later. Today's problem is the $1.2 trillion in assets whose underlying collateral is shoddy sub-prime mortgages, which have eroded faith in the broader U.S. housing market.
Tomorrow's problems go far beyond housing.
"Another $7 trillion - including commercial real estate loans, consumer credit-card debt and high-yield bonds and leveraged loans - is at risk of losing much of its value," Roubini wrote. "Then there are trillions more in high-grade corporate bonds and loans and jumbo prime mortgages, whose worth will also drop precipitously as the recession deepens and more firms and households default on their loans and mortgages."
Translation: Address the problem of today's toxic assets or risk a much bigger universe of assets also turning toxic and poisoning the entire economy. In this scenario, nationalization is akin to stacking sandbags ahead of rising floodwaters.
For now, the Obama administration is mum on nationalization, something that was tried on a smaller but successful scale in Sweden in 1992 and Japan in 2001-2002.
The Obama administration began new "stress tests" this week, with regulators visiting major banks to gauge how they'd hold up if today's recession became a full-blown depression. Nationalization advocates such as Posen think that this exercise is simply the Treasury Department laying the groundwork for bolder action such as seizing banks in the months ahead.
"Unless you put in government money and take control of management, the problem will get worse," he said.
One important voice thinks that a degree of nationalization already is taking place.
"This is the right debate to have. We risk doing a backdoor nationalization by subsidizing the banks with overpayments and never acknowledging that's what has happened," said Elizabeth Warren, who was appointed last year to head the Congressional Oversight Panel for the $700 billion Wall Street bailout.
"Think about where we are now: putting $40 billion into a financial institution that has a market capitalization after the infusion of only $15 billion. Looks a lot like a step toward nationalization."
Although the Harvard Law School professor didn't say it, she was referring to the Treasury Department's efforts late last year to bail out Citigroup weeks after declaring that it was giving taxpayers' money only to healthy banks to bolster their balance sheets.
Warren reported to Congress earlier this month that the Treasury had overpaid by almost $78 billion when it bought distressed assets from banks last year.
"There may be good reasons to subsidize the banks, but those need to be overt. Don't say there's no subsidization here while there's deep subsidization," Warren told McClatchy. The "worst possible position for us would be to semi-nationalize while denying that it's happening."
Greg Gordon contributed to this story.
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Show AllThe Defense Industry is Nationalized...Many of the Defense Companies were on the verge of bankruptcy before our government gave them the gift of Iraq...an unnecessary illegal war.
Does anyone think Industrial Agriculture would survive without government subsidies?
How about the TRILLION dollars worth of digital t.v. spectrum the FCC handed over to criminal media giants for free...that could be interpreted as nationalization too.
Don't even get me started on big pharma or the insurance companies.
So in other words we're screwed?
Are we better off red than dead?
After all this cold war song and dance we've become the U.S.S.A!
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I guess I better put my government application in for a five year wait apartment.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"It may be necessary to temporarily nationalize some banks in order to facilitate a swift and orderly restructuring,..." - A. Greenspan
Free-trader guru Alan Greenspan who believes governments can't do anything right is now asking them to "facilitate a swift and orderly restructing"; a temporary one of course.
This must be bankster-code: Let the government take temporary charge while they demand that taxpayers buy all of our toxic assets and shore-up our balance sheets. Once that's done, they can return the banks to our irresponsible, bubble creating hands, so "the anchors" of this brilliant heist can siphon-off more money from these cowardly dimwits.
“The American economic elite is hiding its treason to the American people behind "free trade." - Paul Craig Roberts, Former Secretary of the U.S. Treasury
Great idea---just make the move permanent.
If Greenspan and Bernanke are agreeing with the unwashed masses that it amy be time to nationalise the banks, that can mean only one thing:
Time to man the lifeboats.
These guys are the ulimate capitalists. And when *they* are saying it's time for governments to step in with regulations and control, that's when you *know* the American, and subsequently, the world economy is circling the drain...
Walk in peace.
"Nationalization" as code word for bankster control--article by Kurt Nimmo
http://www.infowars.com/nationalization-code-word-for-banker-takeover/
rockefeller said [competition in banking is a sin].
Let the investors of the Banks lose everything.
Save (Insure: up to $100,000, the accounts of depositors and put them in an equity union working in concert with a "Plan and Implement" Neighborhood/Inter-community/Inter-regional ecological economic redvelopment mission and strategy.
Mike Morin
www.peoplesequityunion.blogspot.com
The banks need to be re-capitalized through a 90 percent wealth tax. And any parasites attempting to transfer any of their filthy ill-gotten lucre out of the country without paying the tax will be immediately apprehended and secreted off to some hellhole to be tortured until they reveal where all their assets are hidden so they may be seized.
Here, here. Taxing excessive wealth is the only way to redistribute the collective wealth stolen from the general public over the last 30-some years. Taxing greed is the only way to contain this evil trait - and not everyone is greedy, but the most greedy people are usually sociopaths, who don't care about society or anyone else. (Isn't that why children are taught to share?) Greed is wrong and must be treated with strong disincentives.
Fascism never worked before, and it won't work now. Greed is a vice - it is wrong and must be shunned, rejected, and fought to the bitter end. Wake up.
AB; i agree it has never worked before, they will now rename it. and they will give it one hell of a try. control through chaos.
What's up with that picture? Bernanke trying to slouch down a little more and hide behind his desk? Pretty soon he's going to pull a Perle and claim he doesn't work in finance.
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.", Albert Einstein.
Ed note: white phosphorous, dense metal super weapons, nuclear stick-up, missile defense, bailouts and propaganda!!
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/127091
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f9e409ce-ff33-11dd-b3f8-000077b07658.html
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/nationalization-fears/
consolidate, natioalize, liquidate, default, new currency.
Step 1. Massive nationalization of the economy
Step 2. Obama administration continuing assault on civil liberties:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/02/20-5
Welcome to Nazi Germany!
Don't know why Common Dreams is supporting one and questioning the other. Maybe they can't make up their mind if they want fascism or not. Frankly I don't so I'm opposed to nationalization and I also want to see a return to a constitutional government.
Then again a lot of left-wing intellectuals supported Hitler and Mussolini so I understand why this nationalization idea must seem appealing to them and the economists they quote but it is as dangerous as the Patroit Act and maybe even more so.
Nationalizing the banks is the WORST approach to the problem. Let them go under. They are failed businesses. Let those banks who have acted more prudently survive and thrive...that is if there are any left.
What we need is a new banking system and one that serves the needs of people who put there money there. The present system is in its death throws and should not be nationalized i.e. the debt is then assumed by the American people. Let them go under and let the shareholders eat it. They were there for the phony bubble and made their money. Most of what they are losing they never had. It was all a creative mirage. We need to replace the archaic money machines that are now seen for what they were, scams by a select group of Wall Street high stake rollers.
President Obama better wake up and smell the coffee, because if he continues to serve the bidding of the banksters, he will fail along with them. The bankers did not elect him, we did. They only funded the campaign.
When a bank fails, it gets taken over by the feds, typically the FDIC, and the books get straightened out relative to the depositors, then the bank is re-privatized. So I don't see the difference between "let them fail" and "nationalize" them. The issue is always, did someone get an unfair advantage when the bank makes good on depositors, and re-privatizes. That question clouds every bank failure.