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Republicans Try to Block Guantánamo Detainees From State Prisons
Party members in Congress introduce legislation seeking to prevent inmates from being held near their electorates
WASHINGTON - Republicans in at least six states are seeking to block the White House from transferring Guantánamo Bay detainees to their districts, in what critics call an effort to stymie Barack Obama's efforts to close the prison.
Razor wire rises to the sky at the Camp 5 maximum security facility on the US Naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. (AFP/File/Paul J. Richards) Congressional Republicans have introduced bills that would bar the government from moving any of the 250 inmates to some of the most prominent military and civilian detention centres in the US, including a "supermax" high-security federal prison in Florence, Colorado, which holds at least 16 convicted international terrorists, and a South Carolina naval brig that holds the only enemy combatant jailed in America.
Obama, who signed an executive order during his first week as president to shut the six-year-old facility, has yet to release plans for the suspected terrorists who remain there. Critics say the pre-emptive legislation and media campaigns from Republicans - and at least one Democrat - are intended to defend George Bush's legacy against those who claim the prison has damaged America's standing in the world and has become a recruiting symbol for terrorists.
Last week, 20 Texas Republicans sent a letter to Obama urging him not to send Guantánamo detainees to their state. Sam Brownback, the Kansas senator, aims to keep detainees out of a military prison there, and an Arizona Republican has filed legislation that would prevent detainees from being shipped to federal civilian or military prisons.
Guantánamo critics say the Republican opposition is based on flawed assumptions about the capacity of the US criminal justice system to securely handle the suspected terrorists, and is a proxy for broad opposition to the Guantánamo closure. They note that the US has already convicted more than 140 international terrorists. The so-called supermax prison in Colorado holds terrorists convicted in the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing and the 1995 "bojinka" plot to bring down 11 American airliners, the accused "dirty bomb" plotter Jose Padilla and the September 11 conspirator Zacarias Massoui, among others.
The executive order that Obama signed on 22 January demanded that Guantánamo be closed within a year and created a panel to review the cases of detainees and determine who should be prosecuted. The Obama administration hopes other countries will accept some of the detainees. The foreign minister, David Miliband, is working to secure the transfer to Britain of Binyam Mohamed, a UK resident detained at Guantánamo.
Of the estimated 800 men who have been imprisoned in Guantánamo, the Bush administration released or transferred to other countries more than 500. Two detainees have been tried: David Hicks, who was convicted on a plea bargain that allowed him to return to his native Australia, and Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who was convicted of material support for terrorism and sentenced to five and a half years in prison. He was released from a Yemeni prison last month.
Guantánamo analysts estimate that between 60 and 80 detainees could wind up in the US criminal justice system. The defence secretary, William Gates, said: "We have identified a number of possible prisons here in the United States. I've heard from members of Congress where all of those prisons are located. Their enthusiasm is limited."
In the Texas Republicans' letter to Obama, they express opposition to the transfer of Guantánamo detainees to the US on the grounds that "supreme court precedents indicate that courts can bestow certain constitutional rights on individuals simply by virtue of their being on US soil". They also cite security fears: "Any such detention facility in the continental United States would instantly become a target for terrorist[s], who would likely seek to free the terrorist detainees, destroy the facility, or both". The letter is signed by Senator John Cornyn and 19 congressmen.
The Arizona Republican congressman Trent Franks introduced legislation last week that would prohibit federal funds from being used to transfer Guantánamo detainees to Arizona or to build or refit Arizona facilities to accommodate them. Dan Boren, the lone Democrat in Oklahoma's congressional delegation, co-sponsored a bill to keep Guantánamo prisoners out of that state.
The legislation is unlikely to pass, and Guantánamo and terrorism researchers say Republican security concerns are unfounded.
"If they think that US prisons can't hold terrorists without a good chance of those terrorists of running away and killing Americans, then I wonder why they haven't spent every waking hour of their lives in the Congress trying to fix that problem, considering that US prisons currently house some of the world's most dangerous convicted terrorists," said Tom Malinowski, Washington director of Human Rights Watch.
Sarah Mendelson, director of the human rights and security initiative at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington national security thinktank, described the Republican objections as "a red herring". She said that if Guantánamo detainees were tried in federal courts like Padilla and the 1993 World Trade Centre bombers, they would be held in facilities close to those courts.
"Presumably, pre-trial detention facilities are secure enough to handle extremely dangerous people," she said. "I do find it extremely unhelpful that Republican members of Congress are so unwilling to help the Obama administration turn the page on what has been an really damaging episode of America's role in the world," she said.
Mark Denbeaux, an attorney for two Tunisians held at Guantánamo, said the Republican complaints were an effort to justify the lengthy detention without trial of the Guantánamo prisoners.
"If you're going to make them look evil and dangerous, you're going to have to say they're so bad we can't even hold them in federal prison," said Denbeaux, a law professor at Seton Hall University in New Jersey. "I don't see any reason why the guy who came to the US to make a dirty bomb is OK in the supermax in Florence [Colorado] but some guy who was a driver for Bin Laden is somehow a huge threat."
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Show AllFirst.....Most of the detainees were kidnapped from countries that had nothing to do with 9/11. Next, they were transported illegally and inhumanely to Guantanamo. Then, most prisoners were tortured not to gain information, but to be brainwashed.
Were these prisoners defending their country against an illegal invasion? Were these prisoners defending their country against an illegal occupation?
Were any of the prisoners used by the CIA or FBI in previous attacks like the U.S.S. Cole or the 1993 World Trade Center bombing?
I suggest that all prisoners be sent to the Hague and given psychiatric help and let the Hague determine whether they were terrorists or men fighting against an "Imperial Force" determined to control Middle East Oil and Caspian Sea Oil.
too revolted to comment....
The GOP politicos mentioned in this item ought to be rendered to Gitmo.
What really makes one sick is Obama's irresponsible (criminal?) "bipartisan spirit." The Republicans who sought to revive the Nazi blueprint should be prosecuted, not coddled.
I've already obseerved that Obama has violated his oath of office, but he had also done so as a senator, which is one of many reasons I didn't vote for him. He is a mass of contradictions, which are seen in his policy proposals.
Guantánamo should never have been created in the first place. Republicans will continue to seek to thwart ANYTHING a Democrat proposes. They are adverse to most progressive thinking, plans, and social progress in general, UNLESS the proposal is made by one of their ilk. And naturally, soch a proposal rarely or never comes from a Republican, ESPECIALLY if it benefits the masses. Guantánamo should be shut down and leveled.
>>>qblman wrote: Guantánamo should be shut down and leveled.
And how about handing it back to Cuba as a first step in rolling back the empire that's costing way too much anyway?
Sorry, I can't help myself. "They [Republicans]are adverse to" thinking.
What a bunch of WUSSES!!! Since when are the gop so fricken scared? The dick swinging rambo's are all scared of the turrists they have been torturing for years now..
Or maybe their just OBSTRUCTIONISTS?
Wow out of power and passive agressive,, a sorry end for the grand olde party.
Amend the GOP bills so that any state that is unwilling to house the detainees at Federal facilities in that state would also agree to the closure of all federal facilities (military bases and prisons) within that state. I'll betcha hear the squeal five states away.
So this is patriotism, as taught by the Republican vanguarde, when the rubber hits the proverbial road?
A presidential pardon, a green card and housing next to these congressional thugs seems in order for our GITMO hostages.
Abolish the republican party and send those senators to jail.
AldoinSF
Just blame the Republicans even when the Democrats pander to them, shall we? Look, the Republicans cannot really stop Obama unless Obama and the Democrats let them and so far they've been doing just that. Besides, the Democrats have a stronger majority so there's really no excuse. This article stinks of sewage.
JW 1:46 -------- You are correct, the Repugs can not stop the transfer. They with the help of the Media are sowing discord and fear at a time when the USA has very little time and resources to prevent itself from becoming a failed state.
And of course this propaganda would be the precursor to a false flag operation at one of those facilities.
>>>glenn ford wrote: And of course this propaganda would be the precursor to a false flag operation at one of those facilities.
Exactly what crossed my mind too! And I was worried if I was turning into a conspiracy theory nut!
The extreme right chimp squads very specifically intend to continue instituting the hate, oppression and destruction that are their only legacy. Big wake up call for USans: The enlightenment foundation of the nation cannot cover for nor defend the nation from the petro-fried evil-driven idiocy of the modern elite. Each and every local community in the USA has to free itself from the elites if USans hope to ever free the nation from its extreme right nightmare. Free the gitmo prisoners. Most of them are innocent and the militant ones are guilty only of defending their cultures from the "Burger Kingdom".
The extreme right chimp squads very specifically intend to continue instituting the hate, oppression and destruction that are their only legacy. Big wake up call for USans: The enlightenment foundation of the nation cannot cover for nor defend the nation from the petro-fried evil-driven idiocy of the modern elites. Each and every local community in the USA has to free itself from the elites if USans hope to end the extreme right nightmare and re-join the community of nations. The world is united against the USA today. Face it. Free the gitmo prisoners. Most of them are innocent and the militant ones are guilty only of defending their national and cultural sovereignty from the US petro-godzilla. Fail to free our communities, fail to do our civic duty.
notapacifist
We need to give Texas back to Mexico.
Obama is the President.
He can order them transferred to a military base/brig in one of the 50 states.
They are military detainees, he is the commander of the armed forces.
This fait accompli curcumvents political posturing. They can then be tried and convicted or acquitted in fair courts of law. Venue irrelevant, fairness and transparency everything.
All Child's Play.
I do support Obama-and say he needs to do it now.
Joseph.
I'm wondering how many of the poster in this thread would be willing to take in one of these jihadis into their homes?
Here's your chance to put your money where your mouths are and offer to take in a jihadi for "peace and understanding".
How many? I'm waiting to take a headcount.
An Claidheamh Anam
If these guys were against Bush and Cheney, odds are they're probably pretty decent human beings.
Count me in for consideration.
Atlas.
They can come live with me. I'll keep an eye on them and even try them.
If I think they are nice people, I'll find them work-maybe they can join the military and serve our country.
If they are not nice, I'll introduce them to marijuana and mellow them out. Who ever heard of a Rasta-Terrorist?
So start your headcount with One. Joseph.
God Bless the Beasts & the Children.
Allahu Akbar, Joe!
;)
An Claidheamh Anam
I've got room as well. It would probably put me on the no-fly list or worse, but what the hell.
Whoops!! I just flashed on Jack Bauer busting down the door.
Another angle on this - Republicans have, for a long time, been legislating away the civil rights of prisoners and people with felony convictions. Currently, there is a trend toward incarcerating people far from their home legislative districts, which adds these people to the census of a new district (often moving them from an urban, liberal district to a rural, conservative one) even though their civil rights are suspended or revoked at the time. This eerily resembles the old 3/5-of-a-person status of slaves, who counted as census to beef up the legislative influence of their masters' districts, while having no voting rights themselves. It seems to me that allowing American Guantanamo prisoners to return to their home jurisdictions would set a precedent that would threaten the whittling-away of civil rights that the Repubs have been working on for so long.
http://www.sentencingproject.org/IssueAreaHome.aspx?IssueID=4
http://www.brennancenter.org/content/section/category/voting_rights_elections/
You gotta wonder what the Repugs are really concerned about....
What might these prisoners reveal if given a fair trial?
U S service people should be ashamed they had any part of terrible illegal war of the Republicans.
They should stand up for their rights and say NO MORE.
The Bush insane gang are pretty well out of the events and will never stand criminal charges while they live on there illegal wealth gained from murder and extortion.
For once the Republicans might just be on to something. Instead of sending them to State prisons, why not send them home? That's where they came from. They didn't start out here, they were, for the most part taken prisoner while defending their homeland(their brand of homeland security). If not their homeland, their home area of the planet. We were the invaders. Send them home, and stay out of their country unless invited by a majority of the people there, not necessarily their "elected" governments. Perhaps we'd be better welcomed if we brought gifts of construction, or agriculture, or technology for producing clean water, etc. rather than weapons and alternative religions(christianity), and stop the blanket support of anything Israeli. And how about registering for a new draft, anyone or their children who thinks that demonization and military intervention is the solution to interests other than our own. "Their land, Their resources! We need to bargain. Stealing by any other name is stealing. The same goes with killing. 9/11 or the Fall of Baghdad; dead is dead. It's all someone's grand mother, grandfather,mother, father, sister, brother, husband, wife, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, neighbor, total stranger, etc.. 9/11 didn't make the terrorists any friends here in America. I doubt that we've made many in the Middle East in the last eight years. Also, Adm. Mullen is full of shit STILL! We are making very little to no progress in rebuilding the infrastructure in Iraq, or Afghanistan. No matter how much money we throw away, the same thing is happening: Just like in the U.S. the rich keep getting richer, and the poor and middle class stay stupid!
I am sure many of them WILL be sent home.
But there may be some that can actually be prosecuted (though I doubt very much it is as many as it says in the article...'evidence' obtained through torture will quickly be deemed inadmissible in an independent court). And of those, some of them will be convicted. But none of them worry me so much. The Repugs are engaged at the moment in an obvious ass-covering exercise designed to keep their followers of limited intelligence on-board.
What worries me about "just send them home" are the many of them who will suffer death and torture at home regardless of their innocence or guilt. This needs to be more carefully considered than just pushing them out on the tarmac in the desert and then taking off otherwise we add more misery and lose even more moral high ground while we try to close this very expression of the Conservative Ideal down.
Like our prisons don't already have serial killers, etc. already. Hmmm. Jihadist / Ted Bundy. I don't know, I think I'll take my chances with the religious fanatic. At least I know he won't try to eat my brain.
As usual, the R's are just being dickheads.
I think they should build a special new facility in Crawford, Texas next to the Bush ranch for these prisoners.
The Repblicans are not the point. This isn’t about party. Or at least in my opinion it shouldn’t be. It should be about what is right and fair and decent behavior/treatment for anyone who has been accused of a crime. It is about our judicial system and our policies towards conceived “enemies of the state” as seen through the United States Constitution. How do we treat our prisoners? Are they entitled to a fair and speedy trial judged by their peers, with accusations based solely on evidence? How do we wish to be seen be other nations on this planet? As a society who wishes to work towards co-habitation, with equal rights for all, including religious freedom, political freedom? As a democratic society it is our duty to set free those who are not guilty and to punish within the framework of our Constitution and our fair and impartial judicial system by a trial of peers and incarceration if found guilty.
We need to begin a peace process that will show the rest of the world we still stand by our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
First of all Gitmo needs to be closed. ASAP. And given back to the Cubans. It was kept in our hands for the express purpose of keeping our nose in the business of the western hemisphere at a time when Communism was the big enemy. Communism is no longer the enemy. Cuba IS NOT our enemy either. We need to open up a dialogue with Raul, we need to stop the embargo, normalize (or at least try to) our relations with the Latin American countries, particularly with those who see us as Imperialistic thugs. We are no longer imperialistic thugs. Our main goal should be to begin repairing the damage done by the previous administration.
The United States has always stood for justice, fairness and the “good” in an open democratic society. We remain one of the most powerful countries in the world. We need to use that power and influence for fairness and democratic ideals not bullying and imperialistic aggression. Our image has been tarnished beyond belief in the last 8 years. Closing down Gitmo and giving it back to the Cubans is a start.
As for the prisoners themselves, what we really need to do is get these people into the system ASAP wherever that might be. This includes a speedy and fair trial based on evidence and a resolution of either prison terms or release, based on what this country stands for: basic civil rights and human rights. Until then, we cannot call ourselves decent, law abiding citizens or decent members of the global community. We are still simply the reprehensible “bad-ass” guys we have been for the last eight years. And the rest of the world will continue to do whatever they can to strike us down.
"The Repblicans are not the point. This isn’t about party."??????
Republicans were the party in lock-step that created this mess and made it impossible to prosecute any that might have been guilty. No evidence exists and is in such disaray that these prisioners set in limbo. Prisioners need to be shipped to states where Republicans can now take care of and pay for their care.
During WW2 over 400,000 Nazi prisoners were housed in the US. Do the republicans really think we can't handle the handful now at Gitmo? The republicans fear fair and open trials in US courts which could reveal the extent of the Bush administration's crimes against humanity.