"Achtung, Matey!"
(LOL)

Fascism takes hold because people are outraged about the wholesale theft of entire government treasuries by "democratic" governments. That's what happened at the start of Nazi Germany. Yes, the WWI war reparations were a major part of Germany's bankruptcy.

In the Nazi case, there was a considerable difference between a tyrant promising not to rob a country blind and him actually not robbing the country blind. But, people were desperate.

Most folks on the right are more appalled at the theft of the International banking cartel than those of us on the left or middle.

It takes a left and right wing to fly so we might as well fly together and unite with the Right to end the robbery of world private central banking monetary policy and throw out the fat cats. There could not be a better way for a real revolution to succeed.
Most of the differences between the working class left and right are manufactured as distractions by the profiteering ruling class financial system to keep their asses out of prison. The fight between the left and the right is mainly a manufactured fight since we have the world to heal when we look at what we all have in common... all brothers and sisters in the same sinking boat.

Great posts Gentlemen.

Infiltrating Unions and discrediting them as the "cause" of downturns (as opposed to the truth of: overseas outsourcing to Union-free sweat shop countries) has become an artform. Apparently all you have to do is reverse-label an act or policy and the population will fall for it. "Free-Trade", and "Clear Skies" acts come to mind. The actual intent of these acts were to monopolize world trade and to blow mercury coal dust into the air in such quantities that eating fish is now unsafe from all the mercury fallout.

I know it sounds crazy.... but that's what doctors tell me; to limit my intake of fish so I don't become a mad hatter.... (Historical note: felt hatmakers in Old England were known to act crazy for some reason... the result of contact with mercury in the dyes used to soak color into felt.)

If my former neo-con self of 1980 could hear my enlightened educated self of today proclaim these little-known nuances, my 1980 counterpart would scoff.

TJ

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson

I think Benito Mussolini the Fascist said :

"THE Proper definition of Fascism is really Corporatism..for it is the marriage between Corporations and the Institutions of the State to advance the interests of the Right" .

I think he also elaborated that : it also Emphasizes Patriotism, coupled with using Religion to enhance its power aided by the Media as an instrument of the Fascist State.

Hitler of course said something like this:

"THE State should think of the MEdia as a giant Typewriter on which the state can write anything it pleases".

and of course the famous line by Hitler's propagandist, Goebbels:

"IT IS NOT A GREAT ACHIEVMENT ...to make the People do your bidding...all you have to do is take a Lie...reduce it to the understanding of the lowest intelligence among the people...repeat and repeat it until it is accepted as Truth...tell the people 'we are being attacked', denounce the opposition as being Unpatriotic and aiding the enemy...it doesn't matter whether it is under communism, socialism, rightwing dictatorship or democracy....it works anywhere".

If fascism shows up again in the UK, imagine what it will be like here. And we thought George Wanker Bush was definitely the end of the nightmare.

"Remember, remember the fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and plot.

I can think of no reason the Gunpowder Treason should ever be forgot." - V, 'V For Vendetta'

Walk in peace.

When the government runs the corporations, you have socialism.
When the corporations run the government, you have fascism.

I think what we are and will be seeing is the fall of Fascism. After years of building to a totally ignorant crescendo, with the virulence imbedding itself with Reagan/Lawrence Summers, rising quietly, but insidiously with Clinton/Lawrence Summers and slapping us all down so hard and so blatantly with Dick Halliburton and WarBush and his Nazional Legions of Private Bushitlers.

What we are and will be experiencing is the death of Capitalism (hooray!!!) and with it its top-heavy and industrial military arm (robotic genocidal, ecocidal, suicidal fairy patrols)of Fascism.

What we replace it with will hopefully be up to us, E

Ed Balls, come on that ain't his real name ;-0

Mike Morin (my real name)
www.peoplesequityunion.blogspot.com

The US has a larger military budget than the next 15 countries *combined.*

There is, moreover, a far greater polarization of wealth in the US than in any other advanced industrial country.

The US has military bases in 131 different countries.

This is fascism. Not the Hitler-Mussolini brand, but fascism just the same. Fascism with a smiling, Madison Avenue face.

People seem to neglect the reality that Britain and plenty, if not all, other European countries, Canada, and the U.S. all provide examples of contemporary fascist govts. They're all fascist. The extent of the fascism of each surely varies, but they're all fascist to some serious enough extent, while some are very fascist. They are also corporatist, and the fascism probably does usually operate or get applied for the sake of the corporatism; hence, corporate fascist govts.

As for members of the EU countries being able to move around for jobs, there's evidently no problem with this. If the article had been about the U.S., however, then there'd be a big problem, as there has been since the early 1990s, slowing starting when Pres. GHW Bush established the H-1B foreign high tech. worker importation visa program, which was used for not filling a shortfall of skilled and adequately qualified people in the U.S., citizens, residents who're not yet citizens, and foreign students who went through years of higher ed. in U.S. schools in the U.S., but for [replacing] all or certainly very many of these people. This has been related to globalization and illustrates one very wrong thing about it, but it's not that globalization couldn't be conducted correctly, it's just that it isn't conducted correctly. It's conducted in corporate-fascist ways.

Take away all of the pandering of govt leaders to corporate greed-heads and we'd be able to work on establishing a [fair] system, but the greed is killer, destroyer, and here to stay, surely anyway.

Some basic rules that would need to be abided by are, f.e.:

*) NO allowance and no tolerance for importing foreign workers when they're really not needed, only being used to replace citizens and legal residents, instead; and when there's a breach, then there's a sufficiently severe financial penalty to the guilty corporations or businesses.

*) NO more govt assisting corporations to guarantee, f.e., a 4% unemployment rate, as is taught in university and college economics courses, about society supposedly needing to ensure at least 4% unemployment, which really only helps to provide corporations or businesses with a mechanism for keeping wages or compensations down. There's nothing at all fair about such rules and everything that isn't fair must not be tolerated.

*) Free market must be fair market, else the market can't really be free. Corporations or businesses can't be given more rights than workers, or simply persons, have! Otherwise what we end up with again is corporate fascism, aka corporatism, and when we have this, then we can definitely realise that we do [not] have any real democracy at all, really. If you want democracy, then you cannot support corporate fascism; you pick one or the other, but can not have both at the same time, for all forms of fascism are enemies of democracy, as well as justice.

Etc.

Do it right; define it so that it is really integral in terms of ethics; make it just; and then globalization can be fine. Otherwise it's a killer, destroying local economies. It's then predatory in nature, instead of being illustrative of symbiosis, which is needed for a society to be healthy. We are symbiotic, or we are destructive parasites.

Of course consumers have power too and this mustn't be neglected in the overall consideration. F.e., when I do groceries, I seek to purchase all I can from local, regional, provincial, and national producers, in this order. I'd make an exception if these producers all did finely enough and people elsewhere in the same business were doing poorly, in which case I would switch my priority to trying to help them. But local and regional producers have been hurting plenty for long enough and this consumer will do what he can to try to help these people first. This would cover production of foods, clothing, recreational equipment, etc. Another exception I also make when having enough money to buy anything produced locally, regionally, ..., as well as internationally is based on quality and the quality-to-cost or cost-quality ratio. That's why I did not care to buy U.S. automobiles, because the corporations deliberately did not produce adequately qualitative vehicles and have been holding out on consumers since the 1960s over the ability that existed back then to make carburetored cars provide not 15, 20, 25, or 30 mpg, but 60 mpg; a technological method that's been known of since at least that second half of the 1960s. So they hold out on that fuel efficiency and on quality in other respects; therefore, my priority will not be to spend money on their vehicles. However, when a U.S. auto-manufacturer does provide a qualitative vehicle for a price that's at least not more, or is very little more, than foreign alternatives, then I'd buy the U.S.-made vehicle.

That is, I'm flexible, but will prioritise local, regional, ... producers and service providers first, as a general rule.

Consumers definitely have power, but most are just too greedy to care. Instead of paying 25 or 50 cents or even $1 more for purchasing products and services from local, regional, ... producers and providers (respectively), they want to buy from foreign multinationals and when the little more it'd cost to do the opposite would certainly be bearable, without a problem. People have allowed themselves to become brainwashed consumers by neglecting to keep their "thinking caps" on and ... like constantly. They became [lazy] citizens, mentally. They want good incomes but are cheap. They're brats and otherwise pitifully ignorant. Rotten little non-symbiotic sh*ts, i.e., parasites.

Heil Balls!

"Last week Derek Simpson, the general secretary of Unite, gave warning that far right elements were hijacking a campaign against foreign firms bringing in non-British workers.....We are deeply concerned that other organisations like the BNP are latching onto the movement for their own racist agenda."

Here's the "racist" rhetoric again in defense of corporate profits.

Of course, organizing for the benefit and survival of British taxpaying citizens has absolutely nothing to do with this movement.

There are just some excuses that will never pass the snuff test!

This British cabinet official is either right on or really close to right on the mark about how bad the times are we live in and how the fascist jerks will seek to benefit from same. A crisis whether economic or otherwise is always an opportunity for them to scapegoat. They will surely do it. They're already doing it on the continent. It will take strong leadership to defeat them completely as should be the case.

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