Warning Over British 'Surveillance State'
Electronic surveillance and collection of personal data are "pervasive" in British society and threaten to undermine democracy, peers have warned.
CCTV cameras and the DNA database were two examples of threats to privacy, the Lords constitution committee said.
It called for compensation for people subject to illegal surveillance.
The government said CCTV and DNA were "essential" to fight crime but campaign group Liberty said abuses of power mean "even the innocent have a lot to fear".
'Orwellian'
Civil liberties campaigners have warned about the risks of a "surveillance society" in which the state acquires ever-greater powers to track people's movements and retain personal data.
Controversial government plans for a database to store details of people's phone calls and e-mails were put on hold late last year after they were branded "Orwellian".
Ministers are consulting on the plan, which would involve the details but not the content of calls and internet traffic being logged, saying it is essential to fighting terrorism.
In its report, the Lords constitution committee said growth in surveillance by both the state and the private sector risked threatening people's right to privacy, which it said was "an essential pre-requisite to the exercise of individual freedom".
People were often unaware of the scale of personal information held and exchanged by public bodies, it said.
"There can be no justification for this gradual but incessant creep towards every detail about us being recorded and pored over by the state," committee chairman and Tory peer Lord Goodlad said.
'Misuse of powers'
Among areas of most concern were the growth of CCTV cameras, of which there are now an estimated four million in the UK.
The UK is said by privacy campaigners to have the most cameras per head of population in the world, but no definitive figures are available.
According to a 2004 European Commission report, Britain has the highest density of CCTV cameras in Europe. It found 40,000 cameras monitored public areas in 500 British towns and cities, compared to fewer than 100 cameras in 15 German cities and no open street CCTV at all in Denmark.
In its report, the Lords committee said the use of cameras should be regulated on a statutory basis in the UK, with a legally binding code of practice governing their use.
There was evidence of abuse of surveillance powers by some councils, with cameras wrongly being "used to spy on the public over issues such as littering".
The UK's DNA database is the "largest in the world", the report concluded, with more than 7% of the population having their samples stored, compared with 0.5% in the US.
Police in England, Wales and Northern Ireland can take DNA and fingerprints from anybody arrested on suspicion of a recordable offence and the samples can be held indefinitely whether people are charged or not.
Campaigners say anyone not convicted of a crime should have their DNA removed, a position endorsed by the European Court of Human Rights in a recent ruling in the case of two British men.
Ministers should comply with this ruling quickly, peers said, and legislate for a new regulatory framework for the database.
Other recommendations include a requirement for any new data scheme to be preceded by a public assessment of its impact on privacy and for the information commissioner to be given powers to carry out inspections on private companies.
"The huge rise in surveillance and data collection by the state and other organisations risks undermining the long-standing tradition of privacy and individual freedom which are vital for democracy," Lord Goodlad added.
"If the public are to trust that information about them is not being improperly used, there should be much more openness about what data is collected, by whom and how it is used."
'Right balance'
The government said CCTV and DNA were "essential crime fighting tools" but acknowledged personal data should only be used in criminal investigations where necessary.
"The key is to strike the right balance between privacy, protection and sharing of personal data," a Home Office spokesman said.
"This provides law enforcement agencies with the tools to protect the public... while ensuring there are effective safeguards and a solid legal framework to protect civil liberties."
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has rejected claims of a surveillance society and called for "common sense" guidelines on CCTV and DNA.
She recently announced a consultation on possible changes to the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, under which public bodies can conduct covert surveillance and access data, to clarify who can use such powers and prevent "frivolous" investigations.
The Conservatives said the government's approach to personal privacy was "reckless".
"Ministers have sanctioned a massive increase in surveillance over the last decade, at great cost to the taxpayer, without properly assessing either its effectiveness or taking adequate steps to protect the privacy of perfectly innocent people," said shadow justice secretary Dominic Grieve.
Human rights campaigners Liberty welcomed the report.
Director Shami Chakrabarti said: "Liberty's postbag suggests that the House of Lords is more in touch with public concerns that our elected government.
"Over the past seven years we've been told 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' but a stream of data bungles and abuses of power suggest that even the innocent have a lot to fear."
Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, urged the government to "reassert" its control over the use of data.
He said: "Governments tend to think that gathering new information on citizens is a good thing. But that's not true if our privacy is undermined and our data isn't secure.
"We need to see privacy by design: you can't bolt on privacy at the end of big government IT projects, we need privacy safeguards built into systems right at the start."
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15 Comments so far
Show AllDear Joehope,
" Stop being so paranoid and melodramatic. "
I had a custom sun shade made for my car in dec 2007 declaring my support for Obama. I live near Tampa FL. You know, home of Central Command and lots of Defense contractors and right wing lunatic religious freaks.
I provide Network support for clients in the area so I drive a lot.200 miles a day.
Joe, for over 8 months till the November election I was followed and mobbed by hundreds of cars with Mccain/Palin bumper stickers and fish symbols 24/7.
I wish I was making this up Joe, but you keep living in your dream world, my reality of being tortured by these Right wing lunatics is real. And the worst part is, there was nothing I could do about it. Think it through, Imagine me taking pictures of all these vehicles and going to the police trying to explain what was happening to me every day. Joe, Police departments and Fire departments are usually hard core Republicans, do you think they know whats going on, do you they would care, or do you think they would arrest me as a delusional nut case.
I am telling you, you don't know what you are talking about. Tell you what , I can come and visit you, say for coffee. Would you like that Joe, knowing that once you shake my hand , the Stazi community police will be on you like white on rice. But , I guess that would be the only way to show you and convince you of the importance of not making the statements you make. You really don't know what terror is until you are followed 24/7 by strangers, hundreds of them, and you have to believe it is not to help you in case you get in trouble.Slander and fear mongering used to fuel the intensity of their warrant less surveillance.Very mean people.
I urge all readers at this web site to google Infragard, and Citizen Corps.Programs sponsered and funded by the FBI. Prior to 9/11 2000 companys were enrolled. Today 23000 companys enrolled. The Stazi Police are here, thanks to Geroege Bush.
By the way , if you knew the conutry was in massive debt ( Total 48 trillion dollars, thats companys, people, state governments ) would you not prepare for civil disobedience and food riots. Bush/Cheney did nothing for thier last two years to save Americans from soup lines, accept make sure thier banking and wall street buddies have plenty of money before the colapse. With the Stazi Police ( right wing religeous lunatic fanatics and uneducated zombies) as thier eyes and ears they are some what prepared for martial law.
What they did not see coming was Obama, and thats why the republicans were so nasty during the election. They had to win to continue the Stazi police state build up.
They have now heard America, and we will see what lies ahead for us. Obama may continue down the same road, but one thing is for sure, we must not allow the fear mongering and surviellance stazi police to grow, in fact we must crush all of the unconstitutional warrant less surviellance agencies. This is not Nazi Germany.
BTW, I was not trying to insult you with my comments about your wife, just make you think. I would never act in that way, but the freaks who have been torturing me for over a year might.
If I offended you, please accept my apologies.
BornFreeMen
Democrat and American Patriot.
Community watch Gang Stalking Torture victim, 2 years and running.
Y'know, Joehope (for what?), you'd think by this time with all the bruha over Fahrenheit 9/11 and such, that you'd have enough curiosity to read Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. If you had you never would have made the comment like you did about nothing to hide.
But that aside, perhaps the Brits ought to just shoot out those durn surveillance cameras, like they do lit signs in the AMERICAN west. "They" shoot surveillance cameras out in spy movies, scifi movies and such, what is the real problem here? ;-) We must be wusses to go along with this stuff.
Ah yes, but then the companies manufacturing the surveillance hardware and software would be cut out of gov'mint contracts...
Perhaps they should be reminded that "they r' us" and they too can revolt -- in their British way, of course.
So your argument against surveillance is based on the idea not that surveillance itself is wrong, but that the power could be abused. I guess you also oppose having police departments because of the potential for abuse.
You know, in high crime areas, where there are regular shootings or gang violence, people are begging cities to put these cameras in. For these residents, it's not about abstract concepts of privacy or political ideology, it's a matter of life and death. It's about taking back their neighborhoods from thugs and drug dealers.
If you've got nothing to hide then what's the big deal? If there are abuses in the system then fix those problems, and improve the system.
We're already under surveillance at malls, office buildings, airports, subways, trains, traffic intersection, and even in public. So what?
Life goes on.
Funny Joeshope,
You would fit right in over at North Korea, because little Kim Jon "ill" thinks just like you do. No freedom to travel without monitoring. No privacy. No escape from the small-minded conclusion that "The government and it's uneducated clowns always knows best."
For real Americans, we have had enough of this "Constitutional Terrorism" inflicted on us by the totalitarian police state of late.
Pop Quiz:
Who said this Joeshope?: "Those who would give up an essencial liberty to gain temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
Joe, since you're not a real American, it's safe to assume you don't know.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
When you go to the mall, do you give up your "essential liberty"? No. You just know that if you shoplift, they'll have it on tape.
Like it or not, surveillance is already a part of our culture, and it's here to stay.
Nowadays everyone has a camera phone. Nothing you do in public is private, in fact by definition, nothing you do in public is private. So again, what's the big deal?
Are you against neighborhood patrols because that's "surveillance"?
If you ran a jewelry store wouldn't you invest in an alarm and video cameras?
Do you think nuclear power plants should be guarded and have surveillance cameras?
Of course, the answer is yes, any rational person would.
Why? Because they're a target and if they aren't protected it could result in a devastating loss of life.
How can you deny that since 911 every major metropolitan area in the US is also a target? Ever read about the bombings in Madrid, London, or Bali? We are still vulnerable to attacks. We need to make sure there is never another 911.
Joe,
It appears to me, you have little depth of understanding or world traveling experience to communist countries to see where unchallengable data can lead to abuse. Cameras are not the issue, Joe. Who gets access to file text data and how it is misused is; including travel habits in 1937 Nazi Germany and now today's DNA, SSN's, Purchasing habits, website visits, political organizing activities.. the list is endless. The list is ripe for abuse. It is not paranoid to be concerned about abuse that has happened already in the past. My guess is you are just ignorant of U.S. and world history.
Ever heard of WaterGate? Why did Nixon resign Joe? I bet you don't know. Can you say wiretapping? Good. I knew you could. Can you say unwarrented searching for "bad guys" papers (coincidentally at the DNC headquarters?) Good. I knew you could.
Ever heard of the fourth ammendment Joe?
What part of no unreasonable search and siesure (data mining against innocent citizens accused of no crime) do you not understand?
What kind of a paranoid "terrorist already won" mouse are you? Grow a spine. Don't worry about terrorist attacks, a bunch of ragheads on camels are no serious threat to us. And for God sakes, become a worthy American and know the supreme law of the land. Here it is for you; please bother to read it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
First of all, using the expression "a bunch of ragheads on camels" is incredibly offensive.
Secondly, you've made my point for me. The issue is not the use of power but the abuse of power. If government was deprived of all it's power and authority it would cease to function.
Yes,
You are right about that.
Sorry.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Hey Joe Clueless.
You have not read the Declaration of Independence lately have you??
Its ok Joe, most Americans with the same logic you so boldly proclaim in your comment have not either.
Shame on You.
How many Americans have died to build this nation based on protecting our Constitution, that you would so easily and ignorantly ignore their sacrifices with the idiotic statement you made.
Are you a Stazi policeman sent to this web site to spy on the rest of us?? It Would not surprise me.
From the Declaration of Independence.
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."
Do you think our founding fathers had an opinion of whether or not they had something to hide, or were they fed up with the over reaching abuse of warrant less intrusion and surveillance on their personal lives by the British.
DHS, warrrant less surveillance, wire tapping, phone tapping , cameras on street corners. Joehope, look over your shoulder, I bet you are being followed and you don't even know it. Its happening to thousands of Americans all over the country.
Community watch Stazi groups have formed and are actively following Americans 24/7.
You don't think so, stop and talk to your local Muslim store owner, I dare you.You will be on a list and be followed by stazi police, and you have not done anything wrong.But they will follow you 24/7 forever because they are being paid to do it.
Until it happens to you, and I hope it never does, keep your, ignorant, lazy dumb logic to your self. Far too many Americans have died to protect our rights to privacy, I am not about to let a lazy bunch of Americans tell me " if you do not have anything to hide" don't worry about it.
Well Joe , maybe I am doing your wife, and she likes it, and we don't want anybody to know, or maybe joe, you like wearing women's underwear in the privacy of your home, or swimming naked in your pool and fenced in yard.
Who is to say, what is right or wrong, or hiding something.
You see Joe, its none of your Dam business is it, shut up. You stazi cop.
You and the people who wrote the Patriots Acts are Terrorists.
Thats my American opinion protected by the first amendment of our Constitution.
The right to do your wife in the privacy of my home, and not be watched doing it, is also protected by the the 4th amendment.
BormFreeMen
American of the Constitutional brand, not a SPYmerican, or a TORTUREmerican.
Stop being so paranoid and melodramatic. The Founding Fathers intended the Constitution to be a living document. If not for that simple fact, we'd still have slavery and women wouldn't have the right to vote. We already allow for many limits to both privacy and free speech. These are not absolute rights and can therefore be interpreted to face the challenges of a modern society. Remember, in the days of the writing of the Constitution there were no WMD's to contend with. After all, what sane person wouldn't want to do every single thing they could do to help prevent future terrorist attacks? When the lives of millions of people are at stake we need to be flexible and not Utopian idealists.
"Well Joe , maybe I am doing your wife, and she likes it, and we don't want anybody to know, or maybe joe, you like wearing women's underwear in the privacy of your home, or swimming naked in your pool and fenced in yard."
The police and homeland security don't care about anyone's private life. We are only talking about a stopping criminals and terrorists. BTW why do you feel a need to insult me with such crude insults? How old are you?
"Are you a Stazi policeman sent to this web site to spy on the rest of us?? It Would not surprise me."
Correct. I live in the past and text my comments through a time warp created in an E. German laboratory. How did you figure it out?
"The Founding Fathers intended the Constitution to be a living document. If not for that simple fact, we'd still have slavery and women wouldn't have the right to vote."
This is one of the most idiotic comments I have read by joedope to date. There have been so many to choose from, but this one is just too stupid to let pass.
So; the slaveholders wrote a "living" document with the intent of setting "their property" free and giving women the right to vote, just not in their (or for several generations to follow) lifetime.
How do you come up with this shit.
JoeHope said, "Stop being so paranoid and melodramatic. The Founding Fathers intended the Constitution to be a living document. If not for that simple fact, we'd still have slavery and women wouldn't have the right to vote."
You are right, Joe. It is a living document that can be changed by the amendment process, which is spelled out in the document itself. There is NO provision for the Constitution to be changed or erased by Legislative or Executive fiat. None!
If We the People decide want our affairs and our bank accounts, medical records, who we talk with and where we travel, opened to Big Brother and his minions, then we can have a Constitutional Amendment drawn up to that effect and if it is ratified by a majority of We the People, then it becomes a part of the Constitution and the Law of the Land.
But, you know what, Joe? I'll bet they would have a really tough time ratifying it, don't you? There have been a number of fascist oriented amendments proposed, and if they haven't died in committee, they have been rejected by the populace. Most of the amendments that have been ratified have been for greater freedom and dignity for We the People. Some that passed that were for restrictions of freedom, such as prohibition, were eventually rejected by yet another amendment. That took years. Most feel that that is a lousy way to legislate. Especially for issues that are simply prejudice or a desire to eliminate someone's lifestyle, for instance.
Here are links to a couple of articles that may clarify some of your thoughts, Joe.
http://www.populistamerica.com/the_constitution_is_not_for_trivia
http://www.populistamerica.com/the_real_contract_with_america
In the case of surveillance, technology has simply been moving too fast for the courts to keep apace of each new development with regard to privacy. That doesn't make public surveillance unconstitutional. Since businesses and individuals have the right to film in public, why shouldn't government agencies have that right as well? We're only talking about publicly available data. If they were spying on people's private lives that would be a different story.
Awww, don't be so hard on poor joe. He's the sort of person who thinks the cops are never wrong when they arrest and charge someone with a crime, after all if the cops can make mistakes then he might get busted for something he didn't do; and Joe knows that's impossible. It's not like the irs has ever made an error when they're doing their jobs is it? The FDA has never made an error when approving a drug, right?
I suppose he's never listened in to the tail end of a conversation either. It's not like you can mistake what you hear when two people are having a talk about something is it? One of my fondest memories is when an ex of mine listened to a taped phone conversation between me and one of his best friends. The ex thought something happened due to the talk, it didn't - but we were ex's and I wasn't about to correct him. T'was the exes fault for listening in to a conversation he shouldn't have, not to mention asking me to come over and talk about it over a year after we broke up.