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Naomi Klein: We’ve Got to Make Obama Do It!
In her best-selling book, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, Naomi Klein outlines the disturbing trend of governments using crisis as a means for corporate profit-advancement. She cites Hurricane Katrina, 9/11, and Pinochet's Chile as examples of the practice.
Naomi Klein (Photo: FABI/AFP/Getty) At her January 29 speaking engagement at Loyola University, the award-winning author made the case that America's current economic crisis is just another "big bang moment" in this evolution.
Klein cautioned listeners at the packed 750-seat Mundelein Auditorium against cheerily consenting to the wave of Obama-fueled optimism. Throughout his campaign, Obama rejected the "worn out dogmas" and suggested it was time for an ideological sea change. Klein isn't ready, however, to embrace the recent market interventions as a shift in American policy, and instead implored her audience to work for a deepening, rather than deadening, of democracy in these tense economic times.
The concept of an American version of The Shock Doctrine is predicated upon two basic principles: panic forces the electorate to search out paternalistic political policy; and the resulting distraction stifles public debate.
These conditions nudge the collective American eye off the ball, allowing politicians to "override the will of the electorate." Disillusionment creates what Klein called a "temporary democracy free zone." She argued that the recent economic panic is an explicit example of The Shock Doctrine and she termed the $700 billion bailout the "greatest heist in modern history."
With a total of more than $7 trillion in estimated corporate handouts so far, the world is witnessing the largest transfer of wealth in history. Congress has opened the federal wallet to the financial and automotive sectors, justifying unregulated corporate welfare with warnings of economic collapse, frozen credit markets, and rampant unemployment. This "no-strings-attached" federal policy, orchestrated by former Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson, offers a disturbing illustration of domestic shock doctrine in action.
Klein said that the recent actions of Paulson and company fly in the face of democracy. She revealed that Paulson began working on the bailout in secret six months prior to its sudden announcement just before the election. She added that a federal willingness to hand out taxpayer funds to banks with no prerequisite lending requirements has not only failed to unfreeze the credit markets, it has put massive pressures on public "entitlements."
In her speech, Klein quoted bank CEOs who referred to the bailout as a "cushion" and an "insurance policy," clearly defining their intent for use of the funds. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's successful enforcement of lending increases in the U.K. version of the bailout clearly shows that it is possible to use built-in regulation to thaw credit markets.
While federal bureaucrats exhibit an obvious aversion for corporate micromanagement, they have eagerly restricted the rights of workers. During negotiations for the auto industry bailout, Congress forced the United Auto Workers to roll back its members' pay to non-union levels prior to releasing funds. Klein remarked that it was odd that they "got this one in writing" after failing to do so with the lending increases from banks.
After issuing caution, Klein offered the Loyola audience cause for optimism and a few possible solutions to the current shock doctrine policies. The author's democracy-reclamation project begins with campaign finance reform. She framed the current economic atmosphere as a dichotomy of people power versus the corporate lobby, with the business set holding a stated advantage until election financing is made more equitable.
Klein's next step is the nationalization of America's banks. Her argument is simple: These private entities have already proved themselves failures within the market. If the banks are not viable, don't throw money at them - nationalize. After bailouts, Klein pointed out, both Citigroup and Bank of America actually received more in federal gifts than their total market value.
The U.S. financial industry has been effectively nationalized by the bailout, but Klein said the banks are "encouraged to pretend they're still private" because, otherwise, shareholders would lose their stakes. She posed the rhetorical question, if private banks knew how to effectively conduct business would this economic crisis exist in the first place? She also pointed out that U.S. taxpayers failed to receive even one seat on the Boards of Directors of any of the banks that have been aided by bailout funds.
Klein advocates green investment in industrial infrastructure as the follow-up to the nationalization of banks. As factories go under in today's economic maelstrom, she argued that government-directed "green audits" should take place to discern the cost of environmental retrofitting the failing shops.
If entrepreneurs are unwilling to take on these costs, Klein suggests that the federal government divert wasteful corporate subsidies and make a national investment in environmentally friendly production. She identifies this as the kind of bold action that would bolster employment and have positive ecological impacts. She posited a local case, the recently shuttered Republic Windows and Doors, as an exemplary instance of need for this "green-audit" policy.
Lastly, Klein encouraged the proliferation of democracy in the workplace. She argued that democratically run workers' cooperatives offer an egalitarian alternative to today's corporate hierarchy. As examples, she cited the success of the Argentinean co-ops portrayed in The Take, a film she made with her husband Avi Lewis.
She also came out strongly in favor of other policies to extend the social safety net so thoroughly picked apart since the Reagan administration. She insisted that it is time for a health care system "that covers every person in the country, and the model that works is single payer health care." Her view matched the sentiments of the local Transition Team Health Forums reported on in the last edition of The Urban Coaster, and her comments were loudly cheered throughout the auditorium.
Klein closed an excellent speech with a deeply relevant anecdote harking back to the New Deal era. President Franklin Roosevelt was well known for maintaining a dialogue with the electorate. At town-hall style meetings, Roosevelt would hear his political base's calls for change and challenge them to "go out and make me do it" - effectively admonishing the public to force his hand on policy.
Klein positioned President Obama as an executive caught in a tug-o-war between corporate and democratic interests, and one who needs to be pushed as FDR was. She stated that, "one scandal at a time, government has failed to extract any kind of meaningful reform." She's hopeful that the American public can remove government from its current position as a "corporate valet."
Klein is optimistic that due to its repeated use around the world, the affected are becoming resistant to the arguments for shock doctrine policy. She said that, "if we want a healthier, more just, and more peaceful world we must go out there and make them do it." And she urged readers, listeners, and interested voters around the world to go about that by demanding "war-levels of funding to fight Global Warming, exploitative health care, inequality, and poverty."
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Show AllTaken together with the companion article on the rising tide of anger sweeping the world, Naomi is saying that more and more people are awakening to the truth expressed by Utah Phillips when he said,""The earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses".
Elites beware! Either clean up your collective act and give back to those from whom you have stolen, or the torch carrying angry mobs will come calling on you and your loved ones soon enough to take it back. Some will say "that's just what the elites want so they can advance their authoritarian police state dreams into reality".
As JFK observed once in the context of nuclear test-ban limitations and the reluctance of the Chinese to engage in same,"those who seek to ride the back of the tiger soon enough find themselves inside its stomach". Pay the oppressed now or pay them later, the choice is up to you, elites, but know that the longer you wait the higher will be the price exacted (think compound interest).
Poet
Yes but we need to wake up to the dream of love, not the nightmare of hate.
We have been sleeping and dreaming of love, not of hate.
If there is an end, let it be of hate, and if there is a beginning let it be of love.
What happens when snowflakes stick together?...............friends come together and have snow ball fights. :)
Leea
LOL--Whether meant as ironic sarcasm or as malapropic non-sequiter, your comment gave me a smile and a hearty laugh--so thank you.
Poet
Naomi does not make clear if the Federal Reserve System banks are included in the plan.
If we continued to allow the international Central banks which the Fed is a branch of to Own our money and lend it back to us and then take on all the added debt that the branches take on for borrowing that money, how would that work?
If nationalizing means being afraid of taking on the control room of the system, only to be responsible for the losses of the slave banks... that is lemon Nationalization of banks. I guess jumping from the frying pan into the fire is one way to learn about heat.
"The earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses".
True, and I like the sentiment, but what are we going to do once the deal is sealed and we have nothing?
We need to start living differently - you, me, everyone reading this, and everyone who sees what's coming. We need to stop feeding this system. It is very difficult to get started, but it's our only way out.
We have such a wonderful panoply of crises ahead of us: Theft by the MIC, peak oil, global warming, fresh water wars, and more. What we fail to realize is that so much is on the line and so much will change very quickly and sooner than we think. Get ready. Bang your pots! Talk to your reps! Demand whatever you need, but get ready!
Don't ask for specifics - there are none. Just look around and see the perfect storm that's brewing. We each have a choice: Help each other to get ready, or act like the compliant little Americans we so love to deride.
Interesting thoughts Ted and thanks for sharing. The process you have described has always reminded me of what it must have been like as the dinosaurs went progressively (ironic double meaning there!) extinct.
It didn't happen all at once, but once the process of climate change, habitat destruction, and the inertia of their own life-style set in, the combination reached a critical mass that was irresistable and inevitable. Our choice is whether we want to be a dinosaur or whether we will be flexible and open enough to transform ourselves.
David Korten likens it to the process by which a catapiller becomes a butterfly. Of course we are speaking in metaphors here, but the principle is exactly as you stated above--we have to change the way we are living and take each step that we can as quickly as possible.
Poet
I just heard a sobering (to say the least) piece on public radio that was produced by the CBC. It's a 3-parter on global warming and its implications, including famine and wars. By most accounts, and looking at all the crises hitting us, this world is in for a very bumpy ride. Of course, it's already happening in some places. And, the militaries of nations know this and are gearing up for it. Think the wall separating the US and Mexico is for what's happening now? Guess again!
The main thing that sets humans apart from most other animals is our capacity to project into the future and change our actions to affect the future. Unfortunately, we have evolved with the capacity of denial. We have stopped listening to our gut, our intuition, and have learned to place all our trust in experts, naysayers, and doomsayers. So now, we can't tell one from the other and we don't even trust our own little voices.
Well, my little voice is screaming, "STOP!" And so, I have started that process. I am stopping my own madness and have started my own path toward collaboration with others who are listening to their own little voices. We are working on living simply (and yes, it is hard work) and on disconnecting from the consumerist culture. We are working FOR what we want, instead of AGAINST what we don't want. The added bonus is that this work also hurts the ones who brung us here.
These are dangerous times and will get even more so in the years to come. Animals strike out and raid and war on others when their food and water supplies diminish and they are hungry. Human animals are no different. There is no time for false hopes nor for cynical paralysis. We must do everything we can, including all we've talked about, to change things. But most importantly, we MUST change the way we live. We all know that our lifestyles are completely unsustainable. Let's stop living this way.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
"We’ve Got to Make Obama Do It!"
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With all due respect to the brainy & beautiful Ms. Klein: easier said than done.
All of the familiar recurrent rhetorical pleas or scoldings about getting one's butt up from the chair, begging or harassing politicians, taking it to the streets, Not Being Negative and Cynical, taking responsibility and not expecting the politicians to be the Change We Can Believe In, etc notwithstanding.
· Yr Obd't Servant
It's easier done that said in Argentina and Iceland. Maybe it's because they don't endlessly blog their desires and get their butt's up from their chairs.
In the end, we get what we deserve.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
And do what?
Protest at demonstrations that are ignored?
Write your congress people?
Vote?
Do exactly what?
Do all of the above, and more.
If you need to, go out and bang a pot. If that's not enough, go out and join a revolution. If that's not enough, go out and start a revolution.
And, BTW, revolutions don't have to be bloody, as the Czechs discovered.
You want "exactly" the definition, but that, only you can answer...if you care to ask.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
"If you need to, go out and bang a pot. If that's not enough,"
No, that'll do it. Banging a pot is a highly effective form of protest. Good suggestion.
BTW, Vaclav Havel? - oh yeah, I remember him, he supported the invasion of Iraq and was rewarded with a Medal of Freedom by President Bush in 2003. Margret Thatcher thought very highly of him. Funny how people fawn over the Velvet revolution but never the Belavezha Accords.
Sioux Rose
TED: Our citizenry (the awakened ones) is not unlike David facing Goliath in the form of the best and most heavily armed policing forces in the world: Whether DEA, CIA, police, sheriff, FBI, Marine patrol, army, navy, marines, air force, homeland security. Did I miss any? Lots of these organizations, even on a small scale, get to try out some pretty intense weapons, and there sure are a lot of guys in uniform these days. Oh, and I left out the wonderful mercenaries. That's a lot to ask citizens to come up against, especially when any REAL efforts to organize are apt to be infiltrated. I mean if the Quakers are being watched, along with the "ecoterrorists," it's not a far cry that somebody's watchin you... as the song goes.
Are you saying you've given up, Siouxrose?
Yes, indeed we are like David facing Goliath. And what was the moral of that story?
And yes, we are being asked to do a lot as citizens. So? Other generations have faced down their demons - it's our turn, now.
Future generations will take note of what we were made of...or, maybe they won't.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
A far cry? They have been watching us leftists way before they started watching "ecoterroreists" and Quakers.
They watch those who associate with us... "ecoterroreists" and Quakers.
Anyone who speaks out on peace, justice and civil rights and thinks they aren't being watched is not in touch with reality.
A little off topic . . . but I have always found it both fascinating and disgusting that the media uses the term "ecoterrorists" to describe those who are protesting the environmental destruction rather than those actually DOING the destruction. Orwellian doublethink if there ever was any.
Like a wise person once pointed out . . . when it happens to a building, we call it "vandalism"; when it happens to a forest, we call it "development."
double post
Really! It is sad to see the people of other countries going for real change or rejecting the elitist welfare that has ruined so many countries when here in this country all I see are vegged out, over entertained and totally apathetic people that still refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem here in this country much less the world and if they do, it will be 'oh, it will be getting better in a couple or few months'.
And I would hate to see the reaction from law enforcement here if the people only just got out in the streets and banged their pots and pans. I mean there has been a whole lot of effort to prepare for what could be massive protests that would not go as far as anarchy, to wit: the rnc and dnc protests. What have the 'private contractor' firms such as blackwater and others been trained for? The private prisons that have been built?
The USA is experiencing the 'shock doctrine' now and most don't even know it. And by the time is dawns on them, the ever willing 'security forces' will gladly step in and do their duty.
"..all I see are vegged out, over entertained and totally apathetic people that still refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem here in this country."
Good for them, because our hearts don't want problems, our hearts want solutions. It is no wonder they are hiding when all they are allowed to see is problems and more problems and more problems. It's all darkness and until we focus on discovering the truth and being the solution, and shining in that light, we might all just want to hide in fear and wait it out.
What happens when snowflakes stick together?...............friends come together and have snow ball fights. :)
Leea
The upheaval is coming. It is NOT going to polite, nor comfortable. And there is very little anyone can do about it. When the dumpsters run out of food, what are you gonna do?
Why wait for saviors to organize "the people" into strikes, shut-downs, sit-ins, protests, riots and citizen takeovers of government buildings? That will happen only as day follows night, and spring follows winter. Wherever you are, do whatever you can, everyday, to monkeywrench the machinery of the corporate plutocracy. They are stunned and staggering, but still on their feet and will not buckle without a pummeling. Timid, oligarchical responses by Obama and the congress that get the corporate media choir to sing along aren't fooling anyone. Argentina, Iceland and other democratic countries have recently shown that we can quickly get rid of the ruling elite, too. Organizers take their energy and cues from boiling dissatisfaction that has already manifested itself in thousands of seemingly small, inconsequential actions. No action is too big or too small. If you've ever thought about doing it, then do it.
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"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other possibilities." Winston Churchill.
Yes, yes, yes, but lets not monkey around for them, lets monkey around for us, for good. Their problems don't need us adding to them, we need to add to the solution.
This is what you suggest I believe, add to the solution, discover the truth don't protest the lie.
What happens when snowflakes stick together?...............friends come together and have snow ball fights. :)
Leea
Lies are exposed by challenging them. Protests of every hue are a significant part of the solution. Otherwise we must summarily discount the contributions, just in this country alone, of the abolitionist movement, the suffragettes, the civil rights movement, et al.
Doesn't at all seem "They are stunned and staggering, but still on their feet and will not buckle without a pummeling. "
That is an act - their 'stunned and staggering'. Don't be fooled. Still on their feet means their jackboots are still on our throats.
Good comments Poet and JHC; reminiscent of the overt threat issued by the oppressed of El Salvador to the US-backed elites: "Take off your rings before we cut off your fingers."
The goal of the Bush administration was to bankrupt the government and the economy, then turn it all over to the Democrats so they would have to take down Social Security and Medicare, and We The People would become nothing more than Serfs to the Filthy Rich.
And people say you are right wing!
Joe
"She said that, "if we want a healthier, more just, and more peaceful world we must go out there and make them do it." And she urged readers, listeners, and interested voters around the world to go about that by demanding "war-levels of funding to fight Global Warming, exploitative health care, inequality, and poverty."
I must say that the above reasoning is the crux of our problem and the real force in the maelstrom. I would never subscribe to the above statement. If we want a healthier, more just, and more peaceful world, we must make ourselves do it, and they will follow.
What happens when snowflakes stick together?...............friends come together and have snow ball fights. :)
Leea
Leea,
What muddle-headed, new-age, self-absorbed, nonsense!
I for one, and millions of others, ARE doing it. Are any of the rich and powerful following us? Of course not! Please read Naomi's quote of Utah Phillips again. It is not the fault of "the world", it is not "us"; it is specific people with specific names and addresses. OK?
---USAn---
Would you consider that , as ultimate power is in the hands of the people, the fault can be laid at our doorsteps. We have been bought off with plastic crap and easy credit and fear any changes that might take those two commodities away from us.
We could elect politicians pledged to make the necessary changes, but they are few and far between precisely because we do not insist upon them being there. I cannot help but think that blaming those with specific names and addresses is a bit of a copout and an excuse for not making changes in ourselves , changes which if made would result in change to the orientation of the body politic.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
Who is this "we", Mr. rich bourgeois liberal-man?
This self-blame is utterly insane - and an absolutely stunning cop-out.
---USAn---
Your rage condemns you and makes you incapable of working with others for change.
How you can identify me as a "rich bourgeois liberal-man" without knowing anything at all about me is a strong indicator of your uselessness to any movement anywhere. Is this what you intend?
As it so happens I am a working class, blue collar , union guy, I have been active in political change for four decades beginning with the protests of the Viet Nam war. I was a member of a group formed during those demonstrations, a group which evolved to focus on community activism and organisation. We evolved from activities like voter registration drives and education in supporting candidates who favored our agendas to building, repairing and getting legally permited health care facilities, such as the Haight Ashbury Free Clinic, helping to establish day care and senior centers, and have worked both within and without local governments in the Bay Area since 1967. We , some of us, worked with La Raza and Cesar Chavez, went to Cuba with Venceramos to help harvest the sugar cane crop and I am proud to say that some of our children now run this group and continue to stay involved in community activities to this day. we are, ironically in light of your stupidly ignorant condemnation, mostly socialists.
My comments regarding blame and where tot place it are, I believe , on the mark. We live in a Democratic Republic, we are thus responsible for every elected politician and the decisions they make, the votes they cast and the laws they engender. When very small numbers of eligible voters turn out for elections, when a great number of our citizenry remain aloof from politics and estranged fromt he system entirely then I believe it is accurate to blame ourselves.
You, on the other hand, engage in no honest debate, instead you rip off stupid one liners and insults and I would offer that such activities actually retard any progress or coming together. I hope you are very proud of yourself.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
HEY PEOPLE ---------- Guess what you are all right (I mean Left). It is us , it is them and it is we. And all your suggestions are good. And humans are able to prepare for and travel more than one road at once. So recognize each others correctness and work for your and the common good.
Working for the common good
Does that mean demeaning and diminishing the thoughts and ideas of others? Apparently PJD believes it does. He attacked Leea, then, when I responded with a nonthreatening suggestion that other ideas were in play, he had another hissy fit.
If we cannot work together we will all hang separately , so to speak. The process of education is a lengthy one, apparently.
Thank you for your timely and apt suggestion.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
PJD says "I for one, and millions of others, ARE doing it. Are any of the rich and powerful following us? Of course not!"
And what is the reason the elite is not following us? Because these "millions of others," who think they are "doing it," also think they're living in the fantasy land called the United States of America. In that land, they can co-operate, make excuses and live in a state of denial. This works out very well for the powers-that-be and results in no significant change.
But we live in the American Empire, folks ...no better and no worse than any other empire that has ever existed on this planet. We CANNOT proceed along with the established rules and guidelines that are continually being created and re-created for us, and expect to see real change.
I've said this before: f-Obama and f-congress. When these "millions of others" wake up and see that it is useless trying to reach these Empire-approving, warmongering scumbags - changes will happen.
First, it's OUR attitude that needs to change. Following along with Utah Phillips, we should be feeding 'Moose Turd Pie' to B.O. and the congress. ...and they damn well better like it, or else!
While we are in the nationalization mood, we may want to consider nationalization of energy production.
Nationalization only means effective control. We control the energy production, we can direct the production to cleaner and more sustainable processes.
I think we need to be careful how this "push Obama to implement change" argument is stated. Obama isn't caught in between, he isn't a sort of progressive politician that simply needs to be prodded to do the right thing. He is a right wing politician who wants to deceive the left into believing he supports them, and he needs to be challenged the same way we should have been challenging Bush.
Obama is the figurehead for the American Empire. He doesn't need to be challenged; he needs to be expelled - along with the others responsible for maintaining and managing this Empire.
We are allowing 1% of the American population to control and denigrate the other 99%. As long as we continue acting as school children at recess, nothing substantial will change.
Exactly!
---USAn---
Exactly.
It has long been the goal of the GOP to put massive pressures on public "entitlements."
Obama is looking for outside advisors. Naomi and Nader should be first on his list.
I would add Kucinich and McKinney.
In my town a few days ago, rioting individuals overurned a cars smashed the windows of a PNC bank and a Starbucks. Anarchists in our midst??? Has the revolution finally come???
No, it was just some good old working-class yinzers that were happy about the "Stillers" winning. The media noted the event and dismissed it as harmless fun, and the police are pursuing it as a low-priority incident.
But, a few years ago, a couple fed-up people really did break some windows - a marine recruiting center and a couple Starbucks nearby. Oh! the hue and cry brom the media and business owners to capture the terrorists who did it!
---USAn---
Klein has reiterated the recurring progressive mantra that we have to make Obama (or anybody else for that matter) act right. And she is exactly correct. That message is not particularly new, but she has always put it into clearer context than most.
The problem with this piece -- and the mantra itself -- is that we seldom get to the nitty gritty of how to organize to build power to force the Obamas of the world to do the right thing.
The one example that Klein gives is Argetninian workplace co-ops, which are featured in a movie by her and her husband. That may be a good example, but it fairly specific to a unique situation that few outside those co-op organizers and the movie-makers and viewers are not familiar with.
In the U.S. we have political parties, unions and NGOs that are continuously trying to put together a power agenda and a progressive movement and continually failing to do so. There are many reasons for thi -- one being that they are mostly organized and staffed by middle-class people removed from the consequences of the situation.
At the bottom, organizing power groups -- whatever their form -- requires risk, resources and continuous attention to the project. It is vey much a form of warfare. Usually, but not always, the warfare is non-violent.
It is always costly -- financially, spiritually and physically -- for the people involved.
That's the part of "we have to push the bastards" story that is usually left out. It is a bloody, corrupting project -- literally and figuratively -- to understand and change power and financial relationships.
That is why we are losing the battle for democracy and economic justice. Too few people are unwilling/unable to get involved in the work, blood and pain of organizing. Many are willing to talk and complain about it.
Thoughtful post. You describe and pinpoint two big problems that lie at the middle of the progressive agenda. First we have to figure out what to do, and with whom, and then we have to disturb our lives to do it. I have to say up front that I have an assumption that people have to work together to bring about change. Changing oneself is an ongoing project, but insufficiently strong to apply force to those in power.
For example, I really think we need to run independent candidates for local office. tj says "It is always costly -- financially, spiritually and physically -- for the people involved". So true. Who is willing to do what it takes to run for office? It would take several years of going around to neighborhood events, many of which start late, meeting people, compiling lists, going door to door, begging for money. You have to pay attention to hair and wardrobe and always be tactful. Although you will meet lots of wonderful people you would not ordinarily know, you have to tolerate some people you don't like at all. Unless you are well-off, you would continue to work and then have to bestir yourself to go back out almost every evening instead of relaxing at home with family and friends. Then you can get indebted, attacked and reviled and maybe don't win. It's HARD. It's boring.
Same would apply to replacing a tired old corrupt union leadership with some fresh people.
I am willing to work hard, but think we need to try new methods. Is there another more creative, more motivating, less traditional way to get there? Maybe my problem is that I am a quiet person, only ready to swell a progress, start a scene or two. All these activities might be more fun for someone with a different personality. Tim DeChristopher did something new and effective - and it was daring, non-violent and fun.
Anyway, I have more questions than answers on this one.
Joe
Call me sceptic but when you say :
“Then you can get indebted, attacked and reviled and maybe don't win. It's HARD. It's boring.”
Of course you are not going to win. Finances are programmed. The voters are programmed. The voting machines are programmed. In the process you will be programmed to compromise. Either that or become an irrelevance, a voice of truth to the deaf. All the good sense you need is out there, look at Kusinich. Did it or does it make an iota of difference?
Now, what is going to happen is it is going to get worse. Much, much worse than the 30’s, and Joe six pack, as they called him, is going to get very angry. When that happens he is NOT going to turn to you because you were sensible, non-violent, and perseverant in your attempt to get his attention for the past “n” years, he wants to just kick some ass of who he thinks is responsible, and get back to not thinking. He’ll be told about illegal workers, wasters and left wing, terrorists, agitators, people getting social security, etc. etc. there will be someone to blame, there always is someone to take it out on, but I promise you there will be violence.
And then, there will be the “Emergency” and the emergency powers, and the marshal law and the fiction of your democracy will still live on as it does today, as a myth!
If you have power today, you are one of them. Nobody has power without their approval, and they are the ones that just emptied your county’s coffers, your grandkids will still be paying them, and Obama works for them. Whether you like it or not, you do too.
That's the 5th Reich!
Damn - compared with you I am Pollyanna. I think it's going to be difficult, and I am poking fun at myself and most of us for being too quick to talk and too soft to follow through. But you are right in that things are tough and the opposition is well funded and schooled in mischief of all kinds. I do think that WE ARE MANY and together we can make a difference. We have to. People in South America have made changes after years of difficulty. Let's study what they have done.
Joe
Of course you are right. And, as is said, one gets the government one deserves. When you look at South America for ideas, study also Chile in 1971. That is what you have to be ready for as an activist.
In Argentina, it worked like this; The government said you had to convert your savings account at the bank to Dollars. Then one day, the teacher, the doctor, the lawyer, who had maybe 20,000 to 40,000 savings in the bank, a mortgage for an apartment he was paying it on time from his salary... Suddenly No salary, the bank called Citi or Barclays, just switched off the ATM and shuttered their offices.
But now is when you should be getting ready for these kind of events, so that your network is ready to cope when things start to happen. Organizing then will be too late.
Most of the answers will be violent, certainly angry, you have to make reason prevail, and get them to organize and cooperate.
You first. This is my response. I am not going to stick my neck out for a bunch of stupid rubes who have no idea of what is going on. I am not going to become the entertainment for the idiot public.
The first order of business is to write, discuss, think. We are doing that, here. Once the system collapse, which will be soon. Then organizations of "change for the better" can be made.
Any attempt to challenge the ruling elite today will end like all others since the sixies, broke, bankrupt, in jail, discredited, and looking foolish.
Have a nice day.