'Greek Syndrome' is Catching as Youth Take to Streets
First it was Athens. Now the Continent's disillusioned youth is taking to the streets across Europe.
It was a calculated and violent attempt to link disparate youth protest movements. Links between protests in Greece and France - and, to a lesser degree, unrest in Sweden - may seem tenuous, even non-existent. But social and political ailments and their symptoms transmit as rapidly as influenza in the television, internet and text-message age.
With Europe, and the world, pitching headlong into a deep recession, the "Greek Syndrome", as one French official calls it, was already being monitored with great care across the European Union. The attempt to politicize and link the disputes across EU frontiers may prove to be a random act of self-dramatization by an isolated group on the Greek far left. But it does draw attention to the similarities - and many differences - between the simultaneous outbreaks of unrest in three EU countries.
Thousands of young Greeks have been rioting on and off for almost two weeks. They are protesting against the chaotic, and often corrupt, social and political system of a country still torn between European "modernity" and a muddled Balkan past. They can be said, in that sense, to be truly revolting.
The riots began with a mostly "anarchist" protest against the killing of a 15-year-old boy by police but spread to other left-wing groups, immigrants and at times, it seemed, almost every urban Greek aged between 18 and 30. The protesters claim that they belong to a sacrificed "€600" generation, doomed to work forever for low monthly salaries. French lycée (sixth-form) students took to the street in their tens of thousands this week and last to protest against modest, proposed changes in the school system and the "natural wastage" of a handful of teaching posts. In other words, they were engaged in a typical French revolution of modern times: a conservative-left-wing revolt, not for change but against it. The lycée students are, broadly, in favor of the status quo in schools, although they admit the cumbersome French education system does not serve them well.
But behind the unrest lie three other factors: a deep disaffection from the French political system; a hostility to capitalism and "globalism" and the ever-simmering unrest in the poor, multiracial suburbs of French cities.
In Malmo on Thursday night, young people threw stones at police and set fire to cars and rubbish bins. This appears to have been mostly a local revolt by disaffected immigrant and second-generation immigrant youths, joined by leftist white youths, against the closure of an Islamic cultural center. As in Greece and France, the Swedish authorities believe the troubles have been encouraged, and magnified, by political forces of the far left.
There may be little direct connection between the events in the three countries but they were already connected in the minds of EU governments before yesterday's attack on the French cultural institute. The French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, forced his education minister, Xavier Darcos, to delay, then abandon his planned reform of the lycée system this week. Why the change? Largely because of the events in Greece, French officials say. There was a heated debate in the Elysée Palace last weekend. One faction of advisers and ministers wanted to push ahead with the school reforms (already much watered down). Another faction was disturbed at signs that the lycée protests, although relatively limited, were spinning out of control.
The student leaders were no longer in charge of their troops, they said. Violent elements were joining the marches from the poor, multi-racial suburbs. Far left and anarchist agitators were said to be getting involved. With the Greek riots on the TV every night, and the French economy heading into freefall, the officials feared the lycée protests could spark something much wider and more violent.
President Sarkozy agreed to give way. The lycée protests went ahead anyway. There were more students on the streets of French cities on Thursday, after the government backed down, than there were last week when the education minister insisted that he would press ahead. A few cars were burnt and overturned in Lyons and Lille and a score of protesters were arrested but the marches were mostly peaceful.
Students interviewed on the streets of Paris refused to accept that the reforms had been withdrawn. President Sarkozy was not in control, they said. He was "under orders from Brussels and Washington". The real motive was to take money out of the French education budget to "refloat the banks".
The Greek, French and Swedish protests do have common characteristics: a contempt for governments and business institutions, deepened by the greed-fired meltdown of the banks; a loose, uneasy alliance between mostly, white left-wing students and young second-generation immigrants; the sense of being part of a "sacrificed generation".
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46 Comments so far
Show AllThere are more than 300 million people in the US.
All of those 300 million people are too lazy or too cowardly to drive their cars to Washington, DC and THROW THE BASTARDS OUT.
And you want folks to give you criticism soaked in molasses and wrapped in cashmere.
The sole of my huarache to all of you.
Serena, its true there are over 300 million here. But 99% are "blissfully" ignorant of reality. That means that only 3 million of us are too lazy or cowardly to drive our cars to DC to throw the bastards out. 299 million couldn't give a shit less, because there are some good football games on this afternoon and some good escapist television programs on this evening.
-- ekaton aka d.k.shaw
This will change soon enough, i expect...when the TV gets reposessed, and/or their unable to pay the hydro bill, and ultimately they lose their homes altogether. Much like here in Kanada, where it might happen a little behind the U.S., as always.
No it is because we work for a living, we have children to raise, parents to care for we are not the upper crust like your self.
You know what happens when you ASS-U-ME don't you? My net monthly income is $1250.00. Its good to know thats all it takes to become a member of the upper crust. You may be working now. Will you be tomorrow?
-- EKATON --
I spent 3 weeks in Greece in May, visiting the family of an old friend from the island of Chios.
His son Nikos has a master's degree, but there are no jobs in Greece. To keep the unemployment numbers down, Nikos and his peers were participating in a completely bogus program that involved a month of sitting in classes designed for elementary school kids to learn basic computer operations and then another month of "internship"--in which a small business received money supposedly to train them but of course what they did was give the a sheet to sign in each day and then all the program participants left, as there was no training. But it kept them off the rolls for 60 days.
I was appalled at the corruption scandals that broke daily in the news--and the total impunity. (And it's hard to shock me after 16 years in Mexico.) The president or prime minister only apologized and tried to pacify folks with the following message: MAYBE Hugo Chavez will come for a visit and make deals with us.
Greece took it in the shorts when it entered the EU--and it got much worse when the Euro became common currency, as the Dracma became totally worthless--it would have taken a wheelbarrow of dracmas a few days after the conversion went into effect--to buy a 100 Euro bill.
Fishing has been destroyed as a viable activity because of pollution, the mastic trees of Chios that made quite a few folks millionaires are now just folkslore.
Greece provides most of the olive oil for the EU--sold as produced in Italy nd Spain, but actually just bottled there. I brought back about 700 ml of the BEST olive oil in the world--produced by one of my friend's neighbors. Unfortunately, his olive trees all burned 2 months later.
I found Greece to be a banana republic--but it imports in bananas from Ecuador.
It's way past time for folks to storm the government centers and throw the bums out--like they did in Argentina 7 years go.
I am surpised you take such a dim view of Greece - the fact is, it has had one one Europe's fastest growing economies in the past several years and has come a long long way with the Olympics and the economic reforms of the Simitis era...
The BBC almost says 'banana republic'...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7776130.stm
>>So when common thugs are throwing firebombs, you support doing nothing?
When common thugs are dropping bombs on Villagers in Afghanistan and Iraq you support doing nothing?
If the poor peoples of Bolivia did not take to the streets and Riot (They too were called terrorists by the Governmnet of the day) , they today would be PAYING for water with those monies going to foreign Corporations.
So onerous were the laws regarding the privatizing of water a COMMON resource they had free access to for thousands of years, they could have been imprisoned for filling a bucket in a river.
I guess to some like JOEHOPE think these people should have just stayed at home and HOPED they could gather up enough money to pay for drinking water and to others who call themslves LIBERTY these peoples Liberty is predicated on following the dictates of a Government that is beholding to the Corporations.
The Boston Tea party was a riot. The peoples broke the law and destroyed property. They boarded ships of the East India Compnay and dumped the tea overboard.
They did this in part because the British crown had given them preferential treatment TAX wise wherein tea imported from India would be taxed UNLESS the ship carrying it belonged to the East India Company.
The warning signs for this have around for quite a while: the French banlieue riots a couple of years ago is trenchant example. What the mucky mucks of Europe really fear is if this spreads into a redux of 1968. If so, the world has seen nothing yet.
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You better stop
hey what's that sound
everybody look
what's going down...
Gee, the 60's hum what did they give us? Drug abuse ah no thanks! Everyone said the same thing in the 60's and did anything happen? NO!!! Was a big waste of time.
Words like "radical" are selectively applied to only one type of political player. When a corporate-backed administration calls for "deregulation" of predators, that's a radical notion. Deregulation of predators is in fact a step toward the violent overthrow of the government.
what a sneering, condescending article. what unites greece, france, and sweden? jeez independent, can't think what it might possibly be. nothing comes to mind. can't imagine anything going on in the world that would cause masses of youth to look at their prospects and revolt.
Listen to Marley: .... none of them are crying out for Justice.
You mean Peter Tosh, from his song "Equal Rights and Justice"?
Everybody talking about peace
Nobody talking about justice
We don't want no peace
We want equal rights, and justice...
What people don't seem to realize is that the neocons with their free market ideology are the real anarchists. They don't want laws that protect people or the environment. They don't want laws that regulate corporations or finance.
For a long time, the neocons and their ilk have used the term anachist to label anyone who diagrees with them. They have so twisted western thought that most people don't know what's down and what's up. They call those who demonstrate for better government anarchists because they demonstrate against the "authority" of a rigged government that serves and is owned by corporate elites. The fact that neocon politicians and pundits are paid for backing the corporate elite does not mean they are not the real anarchists. Because they have a paid job to support anarchy does not mean they are not anarchists.
Because someone strives for justice and equality and for laws that protect people and the environment outside of the structure of a paid job does not make them an anarchist.
Just because you do something for free doesn't make it anarchy.
Just because they are paid to do something doesn't make whatever they do moral or "legal".
Neocons are not "anarchists".
Anarchists does not work for a world in which there are "no restraints" or "no laws".
Anarchists work for a world in which there is "no rule" or "no domination".
An + archy, literally "no rule".
The neocons (and in different ways the neoliberals) work to eliminate all restraint ON THEMSELVES so that they can dominate the world. That is very clearly NOT anarchism.
Also:
"people don't seem to realize is that the neocons with their free market ideology are the real anarchists"
and
"Just because you do something for free doesn't make it anarchy."
Those two statements in your comment clearly contradict each other. However, the second statement is true (the first one isn't).
Um, no. The anarchists are the anarcho-commies who want to take out the oppressive hierarchies of today's societies. They're the ones who fought against racism WAAAAAAAAY before Martin Luther King. They're the revolutionaries of the future fighting to progress society into freedom. They make your average "progressive socialist/ democrat" look like a "Christo-fascist fundamentalist."
Let's do away with these representative democracies! You all (not sure if you do specifically) come on to COMMONDREAMS all the time bitching that nothing is right with the WTO, the governments or privatization like you think the government is ever gonna change. You preach that "absolute power corrupts absolutely" but you still have faith that some Hugo Chavez/ Dennis Kucinich look-a-like is gonna save the world. Fucking PLEASE! It's about anarchism and doing away with ALL of the inevitable oppression that will forever haunt humanity until we smash the state.
"Anarchism is the only philosophy which brings to man the consciousness of himself; which maintains that God, the State, and society are non-existent, that their promises are null and void, since they can be fulfilled only through man's subordination."
LIBERTY and JOE HOPE -
How did the recent violence in Greece begin?
With mobs, unprovoked, first throwing firebombs at police?
Or with Greek police protecting an impossibly rigged political system that first injured freedom loving people while allowing no honest redress of their popular grievances?
And for that matter: How did the violence in the Amercian Colonies begin?
With the Boston Tea Party?
Or with British troops protecting a rigged political political system that was injuring freedom-loving colonists while allowing no honest redress of their grievances?
Humans using physical violence against one another is always hideous - but it is sometimes justified as a defence against tyrants when there is no other alternative for the abused.
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Whether tyrants' violence comes thru use of guns or as is now more often the case, more subtly, by bloodless theft of citizens' honestly-earned money and by manipulative undercutting of citizens' democratic rights to control their government, hardly matters in the end.
If violations of civilized freedoms by corrupt governments become too egregious, too long-lived, and too institutionally-blocked against redress by citizens, than people (some people, at least) will take to the streets and demand a return of their human rights. And at that point, civilized police need to get out of the way.
$$Trillions have just been stolen from honest, hardworking taxpayers across the western world by financial lawbreakers and sociopaths - Greece very much included -- criminals you are implicitly defending by first and only attacking the mob excesses of their outraged victims.
You guys apparently don't yet see that western, especially USA, oligarchs/bandits, posing as free market capitalists, have once again proved how much contempt they have for you, and how brazenly-certain they are of manipulating your own government against you --with your consent, to boot!.
You are missing the forest for the trees.
You are anally hung-up on respect for the Law, even when the Law is manifestly corrupt and, in its corruption, used outrageously against your legitimate rights and interests.
Maybe you two should re-read and re-contemplate T. Jefferson's exegetics on the subject of Legitimate Government, before you so earnestly defend the mindless police who are protecting the over-the-line excesses of the rapacious, antidemocratic western pseudo-capitalist system.
Humane, democratically-regulated, capitalism isn't the problem. [I am not a Socialist.]
The problem is blind corrupt-System loyalists like you, who care more about msintaining Order than about achieving Justice.
Where would you two have been, I wonder, in 1770's America?
Aligned with the Torries?
I have no doubt of it.
Yet you presume lecture the rest of us as if you are great and reasonable patriots.
Spare us. Please!
Special blessings for 'liberty' and joesixpack.
For You 'order' loving trolls, every dissident is a terrorist. Incomprehensible
how You even bother to post here. No clue whatsoever about what is going
on in Europe, yet still quick at hand in taking party for the oppressors. Reality
will probably never reveal its truth to you guys, because you are so brain
washed that you can't see the light.
For people without hope or future, stripped of opportunities to make it at all,
stones and Molotov cocktails are the only way to respond to a police state.
Fortunately guns are not easily available over there, they would sure use it.
Here in the US people are allowed to have guns, because they are only
using those against each other. Like "Here's your gun, now go home and
watch TV."
The reason Americans don't take to the streets is, that there is something
interesting showing on plasma. Like 'Reno 911' or some other 'reality show',
while the real world in depression passes by.
Without ever agreeing to violence in the first place, I absolutely understand
the motives of these young people. They have no hear whatsoever. Exposed
to the same lies as people are here, they are not watching american idol or
who wants to be a millionaire, they are not dumbed down and brainwashed.
Last week a police chief in Germany got assaulted with a knife by a
Neo(Con)Nazi, who called the police chief a 'Leftist Cop Pig' (Linke Bullensau).
I am waiting to hear from joe and liberty that the police chief deserved it,
because he was a social democrat.
May all Beings be blessed. Specifically the weak and ill minded.
It seems the winds of revolution are starting to blow the little embers of dissent far and wide...and they are starting to catch. A local t.v. station here in St. Louis, Missouri reported tonight (12-20-08) on a protest march of about 30-50 youths in University City, a progressive-leaning local municipality. From what I saw, the local police cracked down on the protesters rather quickly and violently. No surprise there really, just par for the course here now in The Fascist States of Amerika. From what I gathered, the protesters were marching down the main street and sidewalks, chanting slogans and handing out pamphlets which said something to the effect of, "Death to the police and the corrupt masters who hold their leashes". Pretty bold stuff for this sleepy little cow town! Moooooooo...
Greece right now is 'democracy in action'. If the U.S. revolution were to happen today- and arguably, it would be even MORE justified today than in 1776- the revolutionaries would be dismissed as 'terrorists'. What is happening in Greece, inacurately described as simply 'riots', is really the start of an insurrection. The police in Greece have deep connections with the military dictatorship which ended not so very long ago.
Yesterday, Workers took over the central union offices because the union leadership there- just like here- was trying to distance itself from the activity on the streets. Because it IS a general strike! And there is good reason for a general strike. This world-wide recession, coming fast on the heels of first globalization, then old-fashioned imperialism (Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti, Somalia, etc), is underlining the fact that everthing is organized for the very few at the expense of the very, very many, and even the earth itself.
There is, and has been in N. America good reason here as well but our fat, over-paid union bureacracy, NGO leadership, so-called 'anti-war' movement, is ever keen to through wet blankets on any action that might actually result in change. We could use a good general strike here in N. America.
(I actually don't particularly have anything against U.S.-ians (as someone who lives elsewhere in the Americas, I hate calling them/you 'Americans'). But since they're so busy pointing them at each other, there is little danger of them using them to keep their government in check.)
Wait a minute. One of the leaders, an activist,writer in Greece was interviewed on DemocracyNow. The killing of the 15 year old, Alexis, was the spark. There has been a long string of reasons, building up:one thing I remember is that education was free and now the government wants to eliminate free college education. This article does not touch on the issues, just using anti-globalization, and other shorthand to dismiss the students real grievances. It spread because the issues exist in other places,too. The transcript is online: www.democracynow.org. Nikos Lountos Dec.11,2008 interviewed by Amy Goodman.
And where are the Americans? Where are THEIR protests??
It would seem that American youths would have at least as many reasons to protest as do European youths. Actually, quite a few more reasons to hit the street.
Oh, I keep forgetting: Most Americans think that they are "free" because they are able to buy weapons fairly freely.
Well, my dear Americans, just try to unionize your workplace or try to demand collective bargaining for wages and working conditions where you work - and then we'll be able to have an interesting discussion about how "free" you really are..
"Chickenshit" is what Americans call the kind of cowardice exemplified by American youths these days, I believe - which doesn't go unnoticed around the world BTW.
My company sees fit that all of thier employees are paid a living wage with bonus for all workers with great health insurance so thanks but no thanks on a union. Some companies have discovered that if thay treat thier employee's right, the employee's do not demand unions. As you can tell I dislike some unions, not all but some are no more then criminal fronts. Both Unions and CEO's need a swift kick in the ass both are at fault, equily!! And yes I am free because I am well armed somthing that Europe will appreciate the next time some dictator thinks he can rule the world by conquest of Europe.
Apparently, in the Jaded States of America, the revolution IS being televised.
Ho hum...
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
There is an article that I read on some other site where Three cops in plainsclothes, leaped from a van and beat then arrested a 12 year old girl who was in her own front yard.
The Girl was black and they had received reports that three WHITE hookers were at work in the area and i guess this little girl fit the bill.
She was arrested. He rparents complained and sought to file charges. The Police then went to the girls school several days later to arrest her again for "assaulting a police officer" in the struggle.
We have people much like Liberty and Joehope proclaiming the poilice did nothing wrong and that teh girl would not have been arrested if there was not a good reason.
This type of defference to AUTHORITY is a hell of a lot more dangerous then a riot in the streets in a democratic society.
As to the rioting itself> I would not be surprised one whit to learn at some later date that amngts the rioters are plainsclothes policemen egging them on.
I love the french, at least they get out into the sreets, When are WE going to take our country back from the militirist pigs that have conquered us??
The only people fighting for our constitution are ragged children getting pepper sprayed and tasered. these are our champions for liberty. and you call them maggots!! "anarchists"! you sad fool.
You get the government you deserve. Give up your liberty for safety and lose both SUCKER!
Let's be careful not to "blame the cops". The youth are clearly out of control and are doing more harm than good. They are burning their own city. It's time for the police to start making mass arrests. Setting a policeman on fire is not a political statement. It's terrorism. These youths are terrorists.
"It's terrorism. These youths are terrorists."
If they're on our side, they're freedom fighters. If they're on the other side, they're terrorists.
The word "terrorist" is being thrown about much too cavalierly these days. We should be careful as we may need to borrow that word again. After all, the first (and only) war fought for our independence was fought by terrorists...er, I mean, freedom fighters.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Before we blame the cops, lets take a long hard look at modern society and it's methods of governance. First try blaming the system that likely created these "terrorists" as joehope has named them.
Samski, are you actually advocating setting policemen on fire?
Randomly burning people alive is not an act of terrorism?
Nope, I agree with you. Let's not blame the cops. Yet. Unlike yourself, I simply refuse to leap to random, inane or prejudicial conclusions on the strength of one report. At the moment, all that can be reasonably be asked is why are the youth in the streets?
In the progressive world, it is not...unless the policemen in question are controlled by Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, or Vladimir Putin, in which case even looking at a policeman crosseyed is legitimate grounds for being shot...
Again, with your scrying orb you seem to have better vision than most. I'd advise giving it a good clean, try it again and if it still doesn't work return to vendor. You still have the receipt?
Police forces of the world each have their own bad apples. Manhattan has cyclist-adverse law enforcement officers in their ranks. In the Twin Cities when it comes to the democratic right to protest, the police can't seem to decide if they're a branch of the Army, CIA, NSA or are freelance security consultants in competition with Blackwater. Let's not even start with Rodney King.
The youth of the world, their futures have been stolen by the bankers. About time for a revolution!
Silence is Consent.
A riot policeman is on the recieving end of molotov cocktails. He fires a warning shot, which ricochets and kills the maggot throwing them...
In a civilized country, where assaulting human beings with firebombs is not permitted, that would have been the end of it. In Greece, the poor cop is locked up, and everything looks like the fix is in to declare him guilty of murder.
The other cops are not stupid. Greek society sent them a message, which they have received loud and clear. The police are no longer making any effort to control these demonstrations, and are certainly not going to use any force to defend either property or civilian lifes, and if someone's lifetime of working in a shop or business is destroyed, who cares???
"and if someone's lifetime of working in a shop or business is destroyed, who cares???"
Indeed. When one's livelihood, standard of living and dignity have been robbed by the alliance of faceless bankers, associated power-suited financial vampires and their governmental hosts, who cares? Certainly not the law.
From BBC news: "Two police officers have been arrested in connection with the incident. The officer who fired contends it was a ricochet from a warning shot, but witnesses told Greek TV it was a direct hit."
Deliberate intent is not yet determined, unless like Liberty you own a crystal ball.
In the civilized world, police shoot to kill when someone attempts to throw a firebomb at them...
The "civilized" world has started more wars and killed more people than all other "worlds."
I support law and order...when it is protecting citizens. When law and order resorts to common thuggery, as it has, the civilized world breaks down.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
So when common thugs are throwing firebombs, you support doing nothing?
Are you a cop or a common infiltrator...or both?
Again, I support law and order when it serves the people. When it turns against the people I don't support doing nothing, I support throwing firebombs if necessary.
I don't have much knowledge of what's going on in Greece and you plainly have no knowledge, so this is silly.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope