Thus another reason becomes apparent as to why various guilty industries fund junk science: they need to muddy the evidential waters when the inevitable legal consequences of their greed comes around.

www.wunderman-comics.com

What about all of us who support these power plants and energy companies?

People seem always to be looking to our "leaders" to solve these problems for us, or the "perpetrators" to take all of the responsibility at the end of a lawsuit, but the truth is, the polluting energy infrastructure that is causing global climate change is kept in place just as much by you and me when we put gas in our cars, eat food that came from halfway around the globe and use the internet to communicate with climate change victims in Micronesia etc.

If we support lawsuits like these, are we willing to stop driving cars?

So I guess the defendant will be the Sun... we'll see how that goes.

And what about that butterfly busily flapping its wings in Brazil ??

Maybe the most idiotic idea I have heard in weeks.

Interesting.... The end users of products whose generation creates greenhouse gases are being allowed to sue the producer when it was the users' use that generated the demand for the product in the first place? Now I will be first in line to denigrate company's who are global warming denialists--or worse. But global warming results from the actions of users, not the producers; for if the users didn't use, than the producers would have no buyers for their product and would thus not exist. In other words, humanity must look at its behavior as it is the fundamental driver of global warming, not energy companies. Certainly, energy companies as users too are guilty.

Example: If I buy a match, and I then light a fire that burns out of control and destroys my house, is the match manufacturer to be held guilty for my behavior? Now, if I could prove the match manufacturer controlled or had great leverage over my behavior and thus contributed to burning my house down, I might win.

This then raises the question of who/what creates culture, which provides the template for normative and deviant behavior. Is it individuals or institutions? Should the creators of Car Culture be held liable for Global Warming? What about the chemists who discovered how to crack oil into varied petroleum products? Or should it be their employers? What about the folks making comments here using computers powered by greenhouse gas emitting power plants; are they liable, too? And what about me; I'm using hydroelectric generated electricity to post this, which could instead be used to offset carbon emissions elsewhere, so am I also liable? I think this is a very good example of why people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If Exxon is guilty of causing global warming, then everyone who has ever used any internal combustion engine powered item or fossil-fuel-generated electricity, etc., is guilty too--myself included.

Litigation is a pseudo-leftist racket that dilutes the power of the people to achieve real justice in the face of the elite's class war aggression. Litigation is an American racket that supports first and foremost the artificial class division between these litigation racketeers and the rest of humanity. Litigation is an Anglo-Judeo racket that inflames the greed impulse in human nature with news reports of gargantuan mammonary jackpots. Litigation is an "American Gladiator" racket that lights the spotlights on the gladiator arena, indoctrinating the people in the belief that competition dominates cooperation in the quest for justice.

The solution to corporate power concentration and abuse is enlightenment and responsibility for all the people, to build and maintain their individual economic/political independence from the elites, and support only those public policies that place the interests of the people first and the interests of elites last. We need limits and controls on power concentrations, enshrined in law, and enforced by public servants, not litigation hyenas. Litigation does not deter power abuse. Litigation only draws power abuse out of the shadows and into a grotesque public spectacle.

I just watched a dialog with the Dalai Lama titled Ethics and the World Crisis last night and several participants including Al Sharpton hit the nail on the head, emphasizing that we have to stop the triangulation and recognize that the lesser evil (Demok party, the American pseudo-left) is still evil, unacceptably evil. With the exception of few, everyone on this planet recognizes that The World Crisis is caused by business as usual in the USA and this includes the pseudo-leftist triangulation and the litigation rackets centered in pseudo-left California. California, when are you going to support the people of the world, victims of the elites' class war aggression?

The point isn't that we have to stop driving cars and using electricity. We may have to lessen the amount we drive, and the amount of electricity we use - but mostly what is needed is the public organizing and demanding a new way of providing our transportation and electricity needs. There are options out there that are viable now, will strengthen our economy, and be much MUCH better for public health - even without adverting the adverse effects of climate change.

America used to have the most intricate and well maintained public transport systems in the world, and it was destroyed by fossil-fuel industry interests, not by the American public, remember that. Yes, we all have a responsibility regarding how we get around and use electricity, but we aren't the ones who made the decisions on how all that would happen. Those decisions were made by the controlling interests of large energy companies who have everything to gain by selling fossil fuels, and nothing to gain from energy efficiency, public transportation, or renewable energy.

Yes, it's incredibly hard to fight these people, they are the most powerful organization ever formed by man... but I fight them every day and if we get enough public outcry for this nonsense to stop it will happen.

"Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the shadow"

A decade ago, it was inconceivable that tobacco companies could be sued for selling a product that was harmful. That was until it became known that the tobacco industry intentionally tried to undermine the science that showed the harm.

The case against the fossil fuel industry is not based on the fact that they sold a product to consumers that is harmful, but on the fact that they have methodically worked to undermine the science that I'm sure they accept. Thus, a class action suit is not as far-fetched as it might first appear.

sue??!!!
more lawyer bullshit and more rant from 'moi'
here goes

best to cut off the heads of the greedy arrogant perps
AND their lawyers and give to me for crab bait for my poor fishermen in Latin America
con feliz!
as this bad policies of coal, paper plants etc creating ph change in certain ocean areas and dead zones

thanks God for some recent ALIEN activity eating red tide, like eating this stuff, umm must be pretty powerful

do not ask
sue, these f....s ??? r u kidding?
judges w/ lawyers only perpetuate their own heinous professions

Power to the people and get free law websites

and all these jack booted shaved head obese police, when their own families are affected, think will think twice before taking orders to act
thatz right,

and make sure ALL jurors know of jury nullification
and of course the street addresses of all these judges
that are pro corporate and anti people

May Day 2009
real justice soon to be served
Tom Jefferson style
believe it
'el frente' google it
12 million hispanics in USA with long term memories of 1847 Veracruz, 1954 Arbenz Guatemala, El Mozote and even 1912 banana massacre in Colombia, to name a few
wake up 'sheeples'

Jeevee

We ALL have to strive our hardest to save the planet for future generations!

The millionaires of the future: lawyers!