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Conservative Judges Fault Scalia Opinion on Guns
WASHINGTON - Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is no stranger to criticism. He gives as good as he gets.
Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for four colleagues, said the Constitution does not permit "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home." (AP photo, 2006: Chris Greenberg) But two recent critiques of his opinion in the landmark decision guaranteeing people the right keep guns at home for self-defense are notable because they come from respected fellow conservative federal judges.
The judges, J. Harvie Wilkinson of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va., and Richard Posner of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago, take Scalia to task for engaging in the same sort of judicial activism he regularly disdains.
Wilkinson was interviewed by President Bush in 2005 for a Supreme Court vacancy. His article strongly suggests that the 5-4 decision in Heller v. District of Columbia would have come out differently if he had been chosen for the court. Bush's appointees to the high court, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, joined Scalia's opinion.
The district's elected government is trying to figure out how to maintain restrictions on gun possession in the wake of the court ruling that struck down its 32-year-old ban on handguns. The D.C. council voted this month to let residents own most semiautomatic pistols and eliminate a requirement that guns be stored unloaded or secured with trigger locks.
Congressional critics said the city did not go far enough. The House passed a bill, backed by the National Rifle Association, that broadens the rights of city residents to buy and own firearms. The Senate has yet to act.
Wilkinson said elected officials are in a better position to determine gun laws than the courts. He compared the gun case to Roe v. Wade, the abortion rights decision that conservatives consider among the court's worst.
"Heller represents a triumph for conservative lawyers. But it also represents a failure - the Court's failure to adhere to a conservative judicial methodology in reaching its decision," Wilkinson wrote in an article to be published next year in the Virginia Law Review. "In fact, Heller encourages Americans to do what conservative jurists warned for years they should not do: bypass the ballot and seek to press their political agenda in the courts."
The guns case was easily the most significant opinion Scalia has written in his 22 years on the court. Yet Wilkinson faults the justice for falling victim to the same criticism Scalia leveled in a scathing dissent in the court's 1992 decision that reaffirmed the right to an abortion.
"I cannot help but recall Justice Scalia's lament ... that 'by foreclosing all democratic outlet for the deep passions this issue arouses, by banishing the issue from the political forum that gives all participants, even the losers, the satisfaction of a fair hearing and an honest fight, by continuing the imposition of a rigid national rule instead of allowing for regional differences, the Court merely prolongs and intensifies the anguish,'" Wilkinson said, quoting from Scalia's dissent.
"Yet, sixteen years later, the court now takes an issue about which the nation is deeply divided and narrows democratic outlets, overlooks regional differences, and imposes a rigid national rule," he said.
Posner, writing in The New Republic last month, said of Scalia's work in Heller: "The decision ... is evidence that the Supreme Court, in deciding constitutional cases, exercises a freewheeling discretion strongly flavored with ideology."
He called on the justices to practice "judicial modesty" and resist the temptation to put a glaze of history on decisions that reflect their personal values and policy preferences. "It would go some distance toward depoliticizing the Supreme Court," said Posner, a prolific writer who frequently comments on key issues.
Scalia has said on many occasions that ideology does not enter into his decisions. Instead, he is a proponent of determining what the words of the Constitution meant when they were written, a concept called originalism.
Just this past week, speaking at the University of Montana, Scalia repeated his claim that the court is divided between justices who believe in originalism and those such as Justice Stephen Breyer, who believe that judges sometimes must be guided by more than the language of laws, if the words are ambiguous or embody a value that must be applied to specific circumstances.
"It's not a conservative-liberal fight on the court," Scalia said. "It really isn't. It has to do with what your view of the Constitution is."
In the guns case, however, Justice John Paul Stevens performed his own analysis of the original meaning of the Second Amendment and dissented, suggesting that divining the meaning of the amendment when it was written is a close call.
Judges, Wilkinson said, "should be modest in their ambitions and overrule the results of the democratic process only where the constitution unambiguously commands it."



28 Comments so far
Show AllThe caption to the above photograph should simply read: "Sieg Heil!" However, Scalia's Nazi salute in the photo is perfunctory and lacking in theatrics. He should watch "Triumph of the Will" and pay close attention to Hitler who really had it down.
You know I never thought Hitler did it as well as Goering who seemed to get a little altitude with the right hand there. Hitler's was more of a dainty sort of salute like Princess Diana's. I have also seen the guards around Hitler, and THOSE GUYS could salute! That was serious, shoulder dislocating, sieg heil action there. Don't get good salutes like that anymore...
Have you seen The Wonderful Horrible Life of Leni Reifenstahl? Superb documentary. She was a stunning director both before the war and with nature films after the war.
LONG LIVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!! As long as we are armed, we are free!! Hitler was for Gun Control, easy for a goverment to kill an ethnic group if you disarm them as Hitler did! When a polition says gun control or hand gun safety, be worried about what they have in store for us. A free people are an armed people.
Live Free or Die!!!!!
Joe
The forefathers were clear in their other writtings of the times what they meant by the Second Ammendment. Some people just stick their heads in the sand so that they don't hear it... to pretend those writtings do not exist... so that they can define the meaning however they chose in this day and age.
Liberalism in this case is one of the greatest threats to our nation.
I am not a conservative. I am an anti-war, pro-environment, gun toting son of a bitch!
I will exercise my second amendment rights when I feel it becomes necessary to remove the corruption of my own government. This is exactly what the forefathers wrote about. The Second Amendment was to support the people themselves when it was necessary to remove a corrupt government - including the agencies and the police forces they employ. And yet we have some psychopaths who refuse to accept that proper meaning of the foundations of this country and refuse to accept that fact of life.
This is where liberalism fails and is a dis-service to a nations people.
I am not advocating rebellion here.. BUT.. we HAVE a corrupt government NOW.. so where are all these NRA gun-toting, law and justice loving saviours to rescue us from this corrupt government? I don't see any of them taking up arms against our corrupt government.. which leads me to believe that that whole line ( albeit its inherent validity) is just a cover for- i love my gun. I haven't seen or heard any of them saying hey.. we have a corrupt government, it is now our absolute duty according to the second amendment to take up those arms and re-instate an honest and just government..
you might say this is where liberalism fails.. but then I don't see the conservatives doing any better.. and I don't hear the NRA war-cry...
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You sound rather heroic. Why don't YOU take up arms, instead of waiting for the NRA?
ummmmm.. because.. maybe.. ummm.. i am in favour of gun control!!!!! less guns.. less dead people, less wars. a gun is a facilitator for asserting one person's will over another without having to risk personal harm.. in other words.. a tough pansy-assed bully.. essentially.
although seeing what I see going on these days with too much power in the executive branch.. i do at least respect the premise of the NRA..
my point is-- if they aren't going to live their credo.. then its just spouted rhetoric as a front to have what they want...
A goodly portion of NRA members SUPPORT Bush, for whatever reason. Why are they going to rise up against him?
I am interested, by the way, in you belief that gun control leads to "less dead people". Have you studied Mexico's murder rate lately, compared to the USA? Which country has "more" gun control, and serious jail time if you carry a gun or use it to defend yourself? Which country has "less dead people"? Is there a link?
fair enough- I should substantiate the comment/ statistic. i'll dig it up, unless someone else has the data..?
Generally speaking though, I would hazard that you might have to agree that UK, europe, most countries that have better gun regulation have less murder. Are you cherry picking mexico to serve as an example solely because it might make your argument.. while glancing over many examples of countries that don't make the argument for you?
and on supporting bush- point taken. although based on everything that they purport as their doctrine.. less government, less regulation etc.... they should be in arms against what is going on. the constitution is getting shredded, secrecy is rampant and although unproven.. war crimes are probably more likely than not.
double post, sorry
The UK has a lower murder rate, although it is climbing. Their overall violent crime rate is the same as in the US, and their mugging and street assault rate is HIGHER.
However
Take out the FIREARM murder rate in the US, and you STILL would have a higher rate than the overall UK, Japanese or European murder rates. In other words, it is NOT just guns here in America which leads to a higher murder rate; we seem to be more violent.
I chose Mexico for a reason. Following the '68 massacre and the occupation of Tijuana by the Army following the stolen 1971 mayoral election, it occurred to the powers that be that an armed citizenry could REALLY cause problems. So, the Federal Firearms and Explosives law was passed in 1974, ostensibly to "cause less killing".
Result?
The Murder rate has gone up EVERY year since then. Today, in San Diego, you can walk into any convenience store after midnight and buy something. Not in Tijuana; they all close at 11PM because they do not want to be held up by (armed???) robbers, and it is ILLEGAL for the store owners to defend themselves.
But, the PRI lasted until the 2000 elections, so I guess the Firearms law can be said to have served its REAL purpose...
Now that even some of those gun toters who normally support traitors such as Bush, Cheney, etc ... are now waking up and gunning their Congressmen and women against bailing out Wall Street, there'll be plenty to enjoy. You might want to keep your income with you because we blue collared voters are gonna be fooled all the time by them corporate assholes ! Even the NRA will be unable to fool us into accepting the corporate masters as the smaller and local hunting clubs who address working class issues and actually have respect for hunters and the environment gain more ground and put the out of touch NRA on the defensive for selling its soul to the devils on Wall Street. Glad I ditched my NRA membership and switched to a local hunter's club out here in El Paso !
First of all, Europe is more economically sound and balanced compared to Mexico which thanks to NAFTA and the rightwing media and government helping Calderon steal another election to make Fox proud is in the doldrums. So when are you gonna tell your representative to quit bailing out Wall Street and start cancelling NAFTA like the rest of us? And when will you gun down your Congressman for exploiting immigrants for "cheap" labor?
You do seem to have a thing about "Wall Street"; we caught that on the first or second post. You also sound VERY heroic; what have you done for democracy lately?
Mexico's sorry experiment with gun control started in 1974. Now educate me, was NAFTA signed in 1974? I do not think so............
Excuse me but Mexico wasn't in the sorry ass state as it was after NAFTA came to pass in the 1990s. But the US also lost thanks to NAFTA. Crime in Mexico is still higher than 1974 due to oppressive regimes and NAFTA. Clinton and Gingrich had no business pushing that deal against the working class of both nations. Try proving that NAFTA was good for either side other than producing more crime and more illegalization of immigrants for "cheap" labor.
1987 Mexico inflation: 185%
But, hey, that must be NAFTA's fault!
I dunno but with the way Wall Street is waging a hostile economic war, we're gonna need our guns and ammo at this rate.
NRA supports Wall Street. This gun toter knows the NRA is just a fraud.
another oops- connection being very squirrely today.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
take that I am a lit major/ writer. so, I will start by stating the assumption that the authors of the constitution/ BOR were educated and the document is a well-thought out and concise codification that they considered essential, in order to delineate basic tenets.
the way I would take this amendment in interpretation would be: we don't have a standing army.. however.. we just booted the UK out of here and would much rather they didn't turn right around and come back to give us an ass-whooping. so having a bunch of people hanging around and throwing tea into the harbour.. probably won't scare them off in the event they show up on the doorstep ( possibly literally).
on this present read, something interesting comes to mind- I will surmise that the biggest area for argument would be the interpretation of the usage of the word " state." how is this word legally defined at the time of this writing? if it refers to the state, as in nation-state.. then the amendment would be interpreted to mean that the right to bear arms only extends in terms of raising an army for defense of the nation; meaning against an external enemy.
contrary reading would be the individual state, as jeffersonian theory ( I think) would infer- which had a fear of overly powerful centralized government, duly instilled by another george. In this case.. then the second amendment could be interpreted to mean that the individual has a right to bear arms- protecting the individual state from foes ( foreign and domestic, I would assume)..
Does anyone have a better read on the usage of the word " state"?
but then again- couldn't an argument be made that this same right, even as a security measure against a potential corrupt government- the right would be defined narrowly in regards to defense against that state.. rather than just the right to have a gun/ bear arms....?
Also- in doctrinal interpretation.. as much as I can respect what other writings might reflect as to the intentions of the authors.. in the end.. this specific text is what was ratified, legalized and written.. these words are the law.. not something that is not in the amendment.
very interesting- and thank you for an opportunity to have a closer look and consideration of the amendment.
We're gonna need plenty of guns and ammo to fight Wall Street. If the liberals would just let go of gun control and quit kissing Wall Street's ass the way they did on the bailout, they wouldn't be full time losers already !
Yet it ever so clearly states in the Second Amendment that, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Militia being that there key word, Scalia was all too aware what would occur in the District with this ruling, he knew the bahstad knew. I do agree with Wilderman that now more than ever we should take up arms but I so hate them, so much death because as a simple extension of the hand when heads do not remain cool, like those of teens in the worst part of the District, so many lives are destroyed within the matter of a nanosecond, I for one will never have one in my home. Albeit it was Scalia so you can tell me, " Will you just get over it, it was so long ago. Get over it!"
BillofRights
I saw Scalia on 60 minutes saying that Roe V Wade was wrong because that freedom was not explicitly guaranteed in the B.O.R. I wonder then when he wants to revisit the 14th amendment...
It's not like the constitution is immutable; there's a reason for the amendment process. If you don't like that gun ownership is protected, change it. As it stands, this is a reasonable ruling. There was argument about the meaning of the second amendment, and the purpose of the supreme court is to interpret the constitution and settle disputes over its meaning.
Anyway, I'd go so far as to say that tanks, RPGs, etc. should be protected for civilian use. They're already starting to assign US troops to active duty in the "homeland." We're going to need that kind of ordinance when they come for us.
curious point. ARE they protected by the second amendment ( meaning- are they permissible private ownership items?) Certainly Blackwater and private companies seem to have them.. don't they? ( I honestly don't know what ordnance private security firms have- only the general info that they are normally equipped state of the art and high power).
should private individuals be allowed to own them under the right to bear arms? and if so.. under what jurisdiction.. is a tank a farm vehicle that isn't allowed on highways...?
US troops on home ground.. FEMA prisons with RR's attaching each one to transport.. and a private/ mercenary army in blackwater..
is it just me, or is this sounding like the far fetched post-apocolyptic cyber-punk stories that were being written 20-30 years ago.. ala william gibson style...?
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Come on people. Let's all buy guns guns guns and plenty of ammo because Main Street is only going to win by GUNNING DOWN Wall Street !
By the way, don't join the NRA. They're only a secret backdoor for Wall Street and the neocon gangs throwing this country into Iraq. Find a local hunter's club or something like that. They reach out to hunters better, fight for a good environment, and even take working class issues seriously and most are usually pro-liberal on working class economic issues. The so-called "gun toters" that vote for Bush have been brainwashed by the NRA to ignore the real gun grabbers in Washington and keep giving more money to the NRA and in return to the Republican Party. The NRA is nothing but higher fees and no play compared to a local's hunter club.
Who cares at this point? Gun control is pretty much gone anyway and is nothing but a red herring. There are plenty of places to live in if you don't like gun control. If you don't like it, then just move to another place that doesn't have it and if there are other tradeoffs there, then deal with it or just learn to get over your paranoia. Gun control is just another distracting hot button issue misused by "conservative" pols to induce temporary insanity to hypnotize the voters. Just keep the voters foamed at the mouth with misdirected anger and silly paranoia that "liberals will take away my guns" bullshit is all it takes to turn these voters into suckers. Right now, neither campaign is bringing up the issues of guns anyway and even the NRA knows that it cannot stand Mccain even with Palin to beam them up so don't wake up the gun toting crowd. Usually, they either don't bother voting or they'll vote Republican since there's nothing left to interest them unless the Democrats are ever interested in being progressive populists which I see no indication of happening any time soon.