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Palin Would Support War With Russia
And on the seventh anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, she appeared entirely unfamiliar with the Bush Doctrine, the central foreign policy tenet of the current administration, which asserts the right to wage preventive strikes in the aftermath of such terrorist attacks.
US Presidential Republican nominee, Arizona Senator John McCain embraces his VP running mate Sarah Palin as they campaign in Fairfax, Virginia. In a break with tradition, Republican presidential candidate McCain and Palin could spend more time together on the campaign trail than apart, a senior campaign aide said Wednesday.
(AFP/Paul J. Richards) Palin made her statements during an interview with ABC "World News"
anchor Charles Gibson in which she was pressed on her foreign policy
credentials and knowledge. Additional Gibson interviews with Palin will
be broadcast today on ABC.
Palin said she favors admitting Georgia and Ukraine to NATO. Asked if the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia when it was a NATO member, Palin said, "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.
"And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable," she told Gibson. Russia invaded Georgia after the ex-Soviet republic invaded the separatist region of South Ossetia.
Palin said she had insights into U.S. relations with Russia because "they're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska ... from an island in Alaska."
During the interview in Fairbanks, Alaska, Palin acknowledged that she had never met a leader of a foreign country and that she had visited only Canada and Mexico before a trip to Kuwait and Germany to visit U.S. troops last year.
"But, Charlie, again, we've got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual, and somebody's big fat resume that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they've had opportunities to meet heads of state."
'Ready' to serve
But she insisted she was ready to be Sen. John McCain's vice president - and, if necessary, president of the United States.
"I answered (McCain) 'yes' because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink," she said.
Throughout the interview, Palin appeared prepared, though she stuck to carefully constructed talking points. In one segment, asked to explain what the country should do if Israel struck Iranian nuclear facilities, she repeated three times that the United States cannot "second-guess" what Israel must do to defend itself.
But she seemed off-balance when asked about the Bush Doctrine - which includes preventive war, spreading democracy to eliminate terrorism and brandishing power to force other countries into line.
Asked if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine, she asked, "In what respect, Charlie?"
Said Gibson: "What do you interpret it to be?"
Palin: "His worldview."
Gibson: "No, the Bush Doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war."
Palin answered that she believed the president "has attempted ... to rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell-bent on destroying our nation."
After Gibson informed her of the doctrine's definition of "anticipatory self-defense" against any country that might attack the United States, she replied: "If there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend."
Asked if that meant a right to go to conduct cross-border attacks from Afghanistan without the approval of the Pakistani government, Palin said, "We have got to have all options out here on the table."
Palin - who has spoken in her church about U.S. troops being "on a task that is from God," was asked if she believed the United States is fighting a "holy war."
Quoting Abe Lincoln
She deflected the question and said she was merely quoting Abraham Lincoln, adding, "I would never presume to know God's will."
On other issues, Palin appeared to do a sharp turn on the issue of man-made global warming in a part of her interview broadcast on "Nightline."
In an August interview with the conservative Web site Newsmax.com, Palin said, "I'm not one, though, who would attribute (global warming) to being man-made."
But asked Thursday whether she believed man had a role in it, Palin said:
"I believe that man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change. ... Regardless of the reason for climate change, whether it's entirely, wholly caused by man's activities or is part of the cyclical nature of our planet - the warming and the cooling trends - regardless of that, John McCain and I agree that we gotta do something about it, and we have to make sure that we're doing all we can to cut down on pollution."
The interview will be broadcast in three parts over the next two days. ABC's "World News," "Good Morning, America," "Nightline" and "20/20" will all feature the interview.
The broadcasts will include biographical footage of Palin and coverage of her 19-year-old son, Track, who is scheduled to be deployed to Iraq this week.
Prior to Thursday, the GOP governor was virtually inaccessible to reporters on critical issues like national security, terrorism and the economy.
In the week since she accepted the nomination at the Republican National Convention, Palin has stuck mostly to the script reprising her widely praised speech - and has not taken media questions when appearing at the side of her running mate.
The protective cocoon surrounding her has provided a sharp contrast to GOP presidential candidate McCain, who has had a generally warm relationship with media at his events, where he has welcomed their questions.
The McCain team has created a "truth squad" to protect her from charges in the media. And it has surrounded her with seasoned Bush operatives and media handlers to prepare her for Gibson and the coming debate with Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden.
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Show AllPalin is an IDIOT!! To talk so casually about war with Russia is pure lunacy. The Russians suffered hugely when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in WWII. The civilian casualties alone numbered in the many millions. The Soviet armies also suffered stunning casualties in defense of the Motherland. It is clear that Palin is under the thrall of the evil NeoCons who attacked the USA 11 Sept. I am sure AIPAC and AEI are providing for her indoctrination. The NeoCons fear Russia because Russia knows the NeoCons well, starting in about 1795. Russia is the only nation to stand up to the NeoCons, witness the events in Georgia. Could it be that RUSSIA is the nation to save the world from the evil domination by the evil NeoCons????
An Idiot who has the potential to follow another one to the head of state--watch the media pump her up to make her look sane. She's a nutter and would be better suited to run Jesus Camp.
Ummm, no. If it comes to fighting a war the neocons are all for it, even one with russia. Such a war would only end with a nuke exchange, might start with one too. Of course such an event would end the world's worries about global warming.
The Russians are just now observing a memorial to those who perished during the Seige of Leningrad. We have NO idea what the average Russian person has experienced in their immediate family situations in the very recent past. We are CLUELESS.
This woman is worse than bad. She says she has experience with Russia 'because we can see Russia from an island', then after identifying them as our neighbors threatens them with war. Sounds like her Wasilla power trip writ large. And I was just to the point where i've learned enough Russian (an ancient and beautiful language, especially when spoken by women whose native tongue it is), to think about traveling to St. Petersburg and visiting the Hermitage !
The WWII generation in Russia lost at least 20,000,000 dead.
For those who don't know the story, Leningrad, aka St.Petersberg, the traditional capital of Russia during the czars, was under seige by the Germans for close to two years if I remember right. The Germans were close enough to lob artillery shells into the city. While the lakes were frozen, the Russians could bring in food and supplies, but when the lakes thawed the city was cut off. Stories of people eating any animal they could find (horses, dogs, cats, etc), basically of people slowly starving and trying to survive. But also of those same people working in armament factories and sending the output straight into battle, or of serving in militias that helped fight off the Nazis.
True, most Americans know dang little about WWII in Russia. It was massive and horrendous beyond belief.
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St Petersburg was under seige for 900 days, closer to three years than two. I recently visited that city and there are memorials along every road out of the city marking the limit of the German advance. The Russian people are vey proud of the stand at St Petersburg, and in general very skeptical about governments, having suffered equally under the Czars and Commissars. There is a bit of a strange Czarist Renaissance going on now - the royal palaces and homes and churches are being lovingly restored. Out in the countryside the churches never were destroyed under Stalin's rule - only in the cities were so many of them reduced to public swimming pools. Now they are all being rebuilt to their former splendor - Catholic and Russian Orthodox alike. If you want to visit, go now. I found Russia to be an exciting, historical country and the people to be friendly and knowledgable.
you visited russia! thats cool.
Yes - very surreal to be in a bar in Moscow, drinking a beer and enjoying a bite, after years of hiding under my grade-school desk once a week. Russians, especially the older ones, were generally very cynical towards the government, yet very proud of their long history. I asked my guide what a political billboard said and she replied "Moscow Is For Putin". Then she added, "Who says? I'm in Moscow and no one asked me. Is a crock. Phooey!" I met a "Great Patriotic War" vet, must have been 75 at least, ex-Sov Air Force through the 1970s, who showed me around the Russian AF Museum with an interpreter. If anyone was gonna be an old Soviet hard-liner I figured it'd be him. When we were out in the "back yard" he said "Cold War - bah! Waste of time and money. We could be on Mars now had we worked together." I did encounter a subway guard in St Petersburg who gave me a ticket for taking a photograph, and insisted on calling the city "Leningrad", apparently a disgruntled minor functionary longing for the old days. But when I noticed both old and new Russian flags flanking portraits in a gov't building, I jokingly mentioned to my guide that perhaps they were saving the red banners in case Communism came back. Deadly serious, she shook her head and said "Is not coming back..."
I've traveled quite a bit and find that most people just want to provide a decent life for their family. The ones that want to take over the world are all in the governments. I think that Catch-22 must be universal - anyone who has the ego to think he/she can run a country is inherently unqualified for the job.
biwee - Comments like that are what give progressives a bad name. Granted, the neocons are evil, but so is the authoritarian cabal currently governing Russia. Current events like claiming the seafloor beneath the North Pole as their own, and antagonistic jaunts into foreign airspace with their long range bombers clearly demonstrates they're interested in regaining the power (if not the empire) they lost with the collapse of the Soviet Empire. To claim that they will save the world from the US's empirical aspirations is asinine. Once Russia 'saves' us from the neocons, who's going to save us from them?
You don't know what you are talking about. What you said isn't true. Russia didn't do what you say it did. You need to read more.........lizard
What exactly isn't true? I'm sorry but what you said means nothing unless it's supported.
Hey, It's the US that chose the game of might is right, and all options on the table, pre-emptive offence, and stuff those treaties... That was not that "cabal" in Moscow.
I'm not disputing the fault of America in these heightened tensions. I simply stated that Russia is not the country that will 'save us' from the Neocons. That's the job of the American people.
Agreed, adhoc, it absolutely is up to the American people.
As for Russia, the neocons are in full command there as well. We can put lipstick on a pig...
Sarah may be a barracuda, but she is also a sacrificial lamb and a red herring.
In drag?
that photo gives me the creeps...............
get used to it...you're gonna see it on the nightly news through 2012
oh no i'm not, because a) i don't have a t.v. and b) i don't live in the u.s.
however, having resigned myself to the hideousness of the photo i read the article. and quote 'we have got to have all options out here on the table' unquote. you know, seems to me this is a particlarly favourite phrase of politicians over there. and i'm wondering whether this table were to be located, if a lot of problems might be solved..............
That's the scariest thing I've heard in a long time *shudder*.... actually wait, that's not true. You're implying the McPalin ticket will get elected. If that's the case we'll all be dead from the consequences of their war-mongering well before 2012.
And once you lose you're job after more union busting policies keep coming, you'll be lucky to even have a TV. Your "Labor Contract" is just a piece of paper until it actually materializes.
An affair in the oval office! At last some repukes will be impeached for the same 'crime' that Clinton got nailed for.
ditto. . . makes me wonder just why miss sarah always seems to be selling herself out to these degenerate father figures
(eg Ted Stevens) . . . of course, as a teenager, she did go on '3am moose hunting trips with her dad' . . . one of whose favorite sayings was "what's normal" ?
Awwww, they look like they are going to get kissy-kissy and suck face.
How long will it be before McCain gropes for Palin's crotch?
Would it be yesterday if you had your choice WTF?
Nah, she's not my type. Her butt is as wide as a HumVee, and her legs/thighs are thicker than the Alaskan pipeline.
Stop it. What are you in Junior High? We are talking about getting in a war with Russia. I have three words - Napoleon, Stalingrad, and WHY?.
Joe
She said if a NATO Ally is attacked the other members would have to respond...well Duh...thats what the NATO charter is...and it was made to stop Russian Expansionism
Georgia was a part of the former USSR. Which is exactly why they ought not to be a member of nato. Too eager to fight the ruskies I think you are. You're an idiot.
This is why NATO should have been disbanded at the time the SU fell.
It was a military alliance with a specific purpose. That purpose disappeared when the SU fell. Ever since then, its been a beauracracy and military spending concern looking for a mission. We've fought one war (Yugoslavia) and are fighting another (Afghanistan) largely to give it a purpose.
Its incredible stupidity to be tweaking the Russian by expanding NATO first up to the edges of the old SU (by bringing in the eastern europe countries) and now into the old SU (Georgia and Ukraine).
This seems to be a deliberate provocation of the Russians. And it does absolutely nothing to improve the 'security' of the US or the original western europe nations.
My guess is this is mostly about arms sales. Every new NATO member has to buy a ton of military gear on the NATO standards to integrate their military into NATO. So, each new country that joins NATO means big new arms sales for the merchants of death.
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You forgot to mention what NATO is doing now.
Fighting insurgents in Afghanistan, in a so called War on Terror, which cannot be won militarily and in which the foreigner is an occupier supporting war lords who keep in power by controlling opium sales, and the "enemy" the Taliban are considered as liberators form foreign imperialism, not only that but they already beat the Russians in the same game, and now NATO is screwed too.
If this idiot Palin gets in as VP I can see the Russians offering the Taliban a few ground to air missiles just to make the circle round!
Uh, what Russian Expansionism???????
Its the US that's going into old components of the Soviet Union like Georgia and the Ukraine.
I don't see the Russians trying to make a breakaway state of the US a part of a Russian military alliance. If Russia was trying to bring New Mexico into a military alliance against the US, then I could see the point of talking about Russian Expansionism.
But when Russia objects to the US trying to make old parts of the SU a part of an active military alliance that can only be aimed against Russia, its a bit bizarre to be talking of 'Russian Expansionism'.
Gawd, the BS just keeps getting deeper.
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"To know, and not to do, is not to know"
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She should have said "NATO should be disbanded. It serves no purpose post Cold War other than to provide a market for the American MIC to sell its arms. Even if we don't disband it, it's an acronym for North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Why would we let a tiny Central Asian nation with nothing to offer NATO membership?"
Lord, another scary dumbass ideological Rethug without a clue. I have as much foreign policy experience as this idiot. I've been to more countries than she has, and I have talked to as many heads of state as she has.
She actually would go to war with Russia - that alone should make her anathema to anyone with a brain. But then again, since most Americans don't think with their brains, they think with their privates or their muscles or while loudly thumping the bible and wrapping themselves in the swastika, er, american flag - she'll probably boost McCain's votes by millions.
"The only thing required for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing."
Soccer Mom from Hell
When I heard this interview something inside me collapsed. You remember that scene in Braveheart where Mel gets knocked off his horse by the evil king's armored knight who turns out to be the Earl of Bruce - the guy he had hoped would unite the Scots - and when he saw who it was he just sort of whimpered and gave up. Yesterday I realized that I'm lost in a Kurt Vonnegut novel, and I now know how the world is going to end. Can you see it? Looming huge over the fire and mushroom clouds, the world delivered into her hands like some demented, apocalyptic Madonna, a giant, slightly cockeyed Soccer Mom who never read a line of Kant in her sillyassed life.
You remember Kant? The philosopher who told us we could expect eternal war as long as we relied on defensive alliances instead of peaceful federations? Alliances of victory instead of any real effort to deal with mankind's fatal disease?.
WWI was the insane bloodbath that followed a Rube Goldberg booby trap of interconnected "alliances" of this kind. The kind which anchor the realities of Palin and Lugosi to their loony picture of a secure world. War with Russia? Palin won't pause for a minute to think it through. She'll just do it, with a big lipsticky smile of smug righteousness and the first bright explosions reflecting off her designer glasses.
The world has turned into a funnybook. I give up.
Well when I saw it something inside of me rose up. I think it was the pitbull in me putting on her lipstick.
We have been lost in Kurt Vonnegut's "Hocus Pocus" for many years now.
How many remember the fallout shelters and air raid drills from the 50's?
Now where was it that our government put those fallout shelters???
LoL and of course Snowwolf is all for Palin and her support for attacking Russia :) The one thing you've got to hand to the neo-cons is that they all are 100% in lockstep with each other, even if the ideas they support are complete suicide and idiocy. Wish the Dems could be as united as the neo-cons.
I really hope we DO attack Russia. With our military completely bogged down and stretched paper-thin in Iraq/Afghanistan, it would be hilarious to watch us try to attack the 2nd most powerful country in the world and get our asses handed to us. Knock the cocky, bullying USA down a few notches, where it belongs.
You neo-cons need to stick to attacking 3rd world poverty-stricken sandboxes with little or no militaries, like you always do (and which even then you cannot win, like in Iraq). I say "you" because I sure as hell never agreed to the Bush Doctrine, or the illegal Iraq invasion. Note the irony: it's OK for the US to bomb the shit out of another country that has never fired a shot at us, but when Russia invades a country that actually DID illegally invade another country, they are the bad guys. LOL
Got hypocrisy?
"The only thing required for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing."
And if the US goes to war with Russia, Russia has all the kinds of nukes that can penetrate any US missile shield.
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v4i3russia.htm
In any case, the Russia is the US's second largest supplier of oil or was that third. Even if it's the 4th largest, Russia could still force the US to back down by shutting off its oil supplies which would drastically raise the price of crude oil as if 100-150 a barrel weren't bad enough. Besides, I hate to admit this but the US is the biggest importer of bought Russian brides from what I can gather about those Russian bride ordering sites. My hunch is all that said, Palin is nothing but more Cheney-esque fluff and puff. She is not only a DISGRACE to women but also a further DISGRACE to the country at large. This country has already been a total DISGRACE for the past 8 years and the last thing it needs is another 4 more years of it !
First she seems to be a disgrace to Christians world round.
Ah yes, true that. I'll keep that in mind the next time I have to mention what a disgrace she is.
The largest supplier is Canada, followed by Mexico and then Venezuela a Nigeria. The Russians own US assets which they can sell causing damage to the US dollar. They can reduce oil to US European allies driving up the price for everyone. Russia also has weapons it can supply to America's opponents. They could, if they wanted to, provide SAM to the afghanis, much like the US did when the Russians were in Afghanistan. That turned the tide and cost the USSR its existance, and put the Taliban, armed and financed by the US, in power.Taking on Russia is stupid...........................lizard
The deal between Reagan and Gorby was we wouldn't mess east of Germany. Well, advisors in Georgia, Nato everywhere, radar in Czech Republic, and missiles in Poland. Putin is ticked and we aren't getting the message to stay out of his back yard. Especially with strategic weapons.
Don't be surprised if a couple wings of top notch MiGs are disparched to Tehran to protect Russia's "interests" there. This could get ugly.
Good points, bbr-001.
And you're right - this could get ugly. With "100 year war" McCain and "Shoot 'em before sunrise" Palin, it's guaranteed to get ugly.
Sarah Palin has never met a world leader, but I have met at least three presidents (I am a journalists), a number of ambassadors and a minister of two from several countries and I AM NOT QUALIFIED to be VP or Pres. She is clueless but doesn't know and that makes her even more dangerous.
Of course, meeting any politician is a completely worthless experience. They smile, they shake your hand, they spin some BS, then they move on.
It only gets real if you are really negotiating with them. Heads of state do this sometimes face to face. Below that level, its ambassadors and emissaries from the State Dept, and these days some US Generals and Admirals that do that work. So, these are the people who have real foreign policy experience.
Its not foreign policy experience to go on some congressional junket where everyone is given a scripted dog and pony show.
Its not foreign policy experience to do a photo op with a foreign leader.
Its not foreign policy experience to be an incompetent pilot who gets shot down while committing war crimes and then collaborates with his captors.
None of the four candidates has any real foreign policy experience.
And that doesn't matter, because that puts them in the same boat with almost every other US president. Bush Sr's time with the CIA and being a diplomat means he had some real foreign policy experience before taking office. The next one back before him was probably Eisenhower with his experience at SHAEF during WWII. Before that ..... I can't think of any Presidents with foreign policy experience.
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Poppy Bush was arguably the best-qualified Presidential candidate in US history, with a broad range of experience and service. Yet he was a very mediocre chief executive. Probably just a Republican trait...
"Clueless in Wasilla"
Alaska's first family in a laugh a minute comedy where anything can happen.
It is crucial to consider Gibson's question to Sarah about her thinking process when asked by McCain to take the number two spot. Palin; "I said yes right off the bat"... "I didn't blink.." The idea that she did not even pause to consider the offer, did not even blink, should give everyone great pause. Great pause indeed.
Does she presume her answers are a direct expression of God's will?
Because if she believes that God has a plan, any good Christian knows deep reflection and prayer is the only way to align ones self to his side.
Not unblinking adherence to a mans political wishes.
"Because if she believes that God has a plan, any good Christian knows deep reflection and prayer is the only way to align ones self to his side."
Whether or not Sarah Palin is aligned at God's side or whether or not there is a God has absolutely nothing to do with anything being discussed here.