Bush Seeks to Affirm a Continuing War on Terror
WASHINGTON - Tucked deep into a recent proposal from the Bush administration is a provision that has received almost no public attention, yet in many ways captures one of President Bush's defining legacies: an affirmation that the United States is still at war with Al Qaeda.
Seven years after the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Bush's advisers assert that many Americans may have forgotten that. So they want Congress to say so and "acknowledge again and explicitly that this nation remains engaged in an armed conflict with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated organizations, who have already proclaimed themselves at war with us and who are dedicated to the slaughter of Americans."
The language, part of a proposal for hearing legal appeals from detainees at the United States naval base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, goes beyond political symbolism. Echoing a measure that Congress passed just days after the Sept. 11 attacks, it carries significant legal and public policy implications for Mr. Bush, and potentially his successor, to claim the imprimatur of Congress to use the tools of war, including detention, interrogation and surveillance, against the enemy, legal and political analysts say.
Some lawmakers are concerned that the administration's effort to declare anew a war footing is an 11th-hour maneuver to re-establish its broad interpretation of the president's wartime powers, even in the face of challenges from the Supreme Court and Congress.
The proposal is also the latest step that the administration, in its waning months, has taken to make permanent important aspects of its "long war" against terrorism. From a new wiretapping law approved by Congress to a rewriting of intelligence procedures and F.B.I. investigative techniques, the administration is moving to institutionalize by law, regulation or order a wide variety of antiterrorism tactics.
"This seems like a final push by the administration before they go out the door," said Suzanne Spaulding, a former lawyer for the Central Intelligence Agency and an expert on national security law. The cumulative effect of the actions, Ms. Spaulding said, is to "put the onus on the next administration" - particularly a Barack Obama administration - to justify undoing what Mr. Bush has done.
It is uncertain whether Congress will take the administration up on its request. Some Republicans have already embraced the idea, with Representative Lamar Smith of Texas, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, introducing a measure almost identical to the administration's proposal. "Since 9/11," Mr. Smith said, "we have been at war with an unconventional enemy whose primary goal is to kill innocent Americans."
In the midst of an election season, the language represents a political challenge of sorts to the administration's critics. While many Democrats say they are wary of Mr. Bush's claims to presidential power, they may be even more nervous about casting a vote against a measure that affirms the country's war against terrorism. They see the administration's effort to force the issue as little more than a political ploy.
Mr. Bush "is trying to stir up again the politics of fear by reminding people of something they haven't really forgotten: that we are engaged in serious armed conflict with Al Qaeda," said Laurence H. Tribe, a constitutional scholar at Harvard and legal adviser to Mr. Obama. "But the question is, Where is that conflict to be waged, and by what means."
With violence rising in Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden still at large, there are ample signs of the United States' continued battles with terrorism. But Mr. Bush and his advisers say that seven years without an attack has lulled many Americans.
"As Sept. 11, 2001, recedes into the past, there are some people who have come to think of it as kind of a singular event and of there being nothing else out there," Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey told House lawmakers in July. "In a way, we are the victims of our own success, our own success being that another attack has been prevented."
Mr. Mukasey laid out the administration's thinking in a July 21 speech to a conservative Washington policy institute in response to yet another rebuke on presidential powers by the Supreme Court: its ruling that prisoners at Guantánamo Bay , were entitled to habeas corpus rights to contest their detentions in court.
The administration wants Congress to set out a narrow framework for those prisoner appeals. But the administration's six-point proposal goes further. It includes not only the broad proclamation of a continued "armed conflict with Al Qaeda," but also the desire for Congress to "reaffirm that for the duration of the conflict the United States may detain as enemy combatants those who have engaged in hostilities or purposefully supported Al Qaeda, the Taliban and associated organizations."
That broad language hints at why Democrats, and some Republicans, worry about the consequences. It could, they say, provide the legal framework for Mr. Bush and his successor to assert once again the president's broad interpretation of the commander in chief's wartime powers, powers that Justice Department lawyers secretly used to justify the indefinite detention of terrorist suspects and the National Security Agency's wiretapping of Americans without court orders.
The language recalls a resolution, known as the Authorization for Use of Military Force, passed by Congress on Sept. 14, 2001. It authorized the president to "use all necessary and appropriate force" against those responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks to prevent future strikes. That authorization, still in effect, was initially viewed by many members of Congress who voted for it as the go-ahead for the administration to invade Afghanistan and overthrow the Taliban, which had given sanctuary to Mr. bin Laden.
But the military authorization became the secret legal basis for some of the administration's most controversial legal tactics, including the wiretapping program, and that still gnaws at some members of Congress.
Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said he wanted to make sure the Bush administration - or a future president - did not use that declaration as "another far-fetched interpretation" to evade the law, the way he believes Mr. Bush and aides like Alberto R. Gonzales, the former attorney general, did in using the wiretapping program to avoid the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
"I don't want to face another situation where we had the Sept. 14 resolution and then Attorney General Gonzales claimed that that was authorization to violate FISA," Mr. Specter said.
For Bush critics like Bruce Fein, a Justice Department official in the Reagan administration, the answer is simple: do not give the administration the wartime language it seeks.
"I do not believe that we are in a state of war whatsoever," Mr. Fein said. "We have an odious opponent that the criminal justice system is able to identify and indict and convict. They're not a goliath. Don't treat them that way."
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"Just as Bill Clinton had to watch his legacy trashed by his selected successor,"
What legacy? Bush's brutal invasion of Iraq was the natural succession to the quieter but equally brutal war Clinton waged against the Iraqi people.
PAKISTAN looks like a political vacuum. It was expected that the alliance between Zardari of People's party and Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan Muslim League will not last as it was focused on a common enemy Mushrraf. But it was not expected the Pakistan democratic leadership will not be patience enough first to stabilize the situation and then return to competitive politics.
At this juncture, stability is the key and now dangerous scenario is emerging. Zardari will get elected as president in the first week of next month. Zardari is not a political heavy weight. He occupied the center stage in Pakistan politics only because of sympathy wave in the wake of assassination of Benazir Bhutto and it is not going to last for a long. He does not have his own political base rather his past has negative popular base. Under the situation Zardari will keep on tilting towards US support and Sharif would increasingly shift towards Islamic hardliners. In the past also Sharif has been sympathetic towards Islamic hardliners. A mainstream political party inclination towards Islamic hardliners will provide new political base to extremist and terrorism and Pakistan will further move towards abyss. Pakistan tribal areas bordering Afghanistan are hideouts of most wanted terrorists and the present political instability will weakened Pakistan's capability to launch a military campaign against the terrorists. Afghan situation is fast deteriorating and US and NATO forces are under tremendous pressure. How long it will be when US will not able to hold any more patience. And again it can not be forgotten that Pakistan is a nuclear weapon state not having a clean record on non-proliferation of nuclear technology. If there is emergence of any kind of Islamic and anti-America Islamic government or a government which sympathetic towards the extremists, the United States given its stated policy of the day might intervene militarily. It will be a dangerous situation and again if Zardari is just a puppet in Americans hands it will generate strong anti-American feelings and will provide another base to extremism. It is now time to the Pakistan government to make some kind of accommodation with US and also launch a decisive campaign to root out terrorism in tribal areas. It will not be far away that US will have to make a military intervention if Pakistan government is reluctant or fails.
Can a powerful but weak politically weak President Zardari deliver?
Subhash Dhuliya
The USA needs to be continuously at war to justify the ongoing suspension of civil liberties in the US. The police state is in place. All we need is a trigger (false flag event, economic meltdown), with associated civil unrest, and the million plus people already flagged for the no fly list will find themselves in FEMA camps. Only the corporate/fascist/militarist system profits from all this fear and harm. Wake up folks. The two party system is both bought and paid for by Wall Street and foreign banks. Vote Green or Constitution Party (both call for a new 911 investigation). Obama has neoconservatives advising him on Georgia (a US-Israeli backed false flag, admitted by Georgia's own defense minister -- though you'll never hear the Russian's POV or the truth on the corporate media), and is himself the darling of the financial elites. Ask yourself why Cheney's new main residence is in Dubai, and why Pappy and W bought a 100,000 acre compound in Paraguay as soon as the Paraguayan senate passed a non-extradition treaty with the US for war criminals. Turn off the TV, stop ingesting fluoridated water and GMOs. Refuse mercury tainted vaccines and dental filling materials. Keep what intelligence you have left. You are going to need it.
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911 was an inside job. Cheney suspended the Constitution via the imposition of Continuity of Government on 911. Congress has been denied access to the COG details. COG is martial law. For more information check out http://prisonplanet.tv/alex_jones_live.html
it seems to me ( totally different thread of thought here)...
the US started a concept.. globalism.. corporations that are multi-national.. the shading of the significance of borders. free trade agreements..
and now we have " terrorist organisations"... enemies that defy definition via nationality geography or borders...
and.. the system WANTS an open ended enemy. war is profitbale and useful for controlling people. It is an excuse now, to go into almost any country.. in search of al quaida. does anyone seriously think that they wanted to catch bin laden? aside from having close ties to the bin laden family ( yes, i know its large).. catching bin laden.. everyone would have breathed a sigh: it's over. we are safe now. And there would have been less support for all of the war-mongering that the profiteers and politicians that are on a mission. Precisely what psycho-drama being played out on a world stage remains somewhat of a mystery.. and a place I really prefer not to wander:)
keep people afraid.. and give them an external enemy. and when an enemy.. like a corporation.. is an elusive entity.. all the better!!!!
time for a change.. and i don't mean the obama kind.. but as someone said ( I forget whom, sorry).. democracy isn't just about who gets elected.. it's about making sure they respond to the populace.. our job to keep the pressure on.
thinkaction,
I like the concept that reaffirmation of the war on terror means we are continuously at war with ourselves. What a nightmare. Where is Sigmund's office, I need a little couch time.
SnowWolf August 30th, 2008 5:14 pm
"I'm sure they will get around to that...If and when he does something Impeachable...you KNOW they would love to for payback for Clinton....fact is he's done it all by the book and they know it"
For one he admitted breaking the FISA law on TV in front of millions during the 2004 persidential debates, which by the way just happens to be a violation of the 4th amendment to the Constitution also.
Lobo Gris
Well I can only offer as proof of the correctness of my position...the fact that he has not and will not be impeached...what do you have?
I'm amazed at the number of "9/11 was an inside job" posts here...I'm surprised theres a roll of tin foil left in any grocery store in America
SnowWolf, you've offered nothing but regurgitated pabalum from the corporate media, which only shows your colossal ignorance. And your tinfoil hat reference shows you traffic in ad hominem and insinuation, not proof.
You need a greater familiarity with the concept of proof.
You assume he cares about "proofs". This coyote ( a wolf is far too noble an animal)is not here to speak to truth but to defend an execrable political ideology that puts profit and greed above life itself.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
I make no assumption of the sort. Regardless of his cares one way or the other, he has used a term incorrectly. Given the radical right's hostility to science, logic, and empiricism, that ilk is under a particular obligation to atone by using related language correctly, for a start.
Many good points above. Two really stand out for me:
1)Lichtblah states the provision "carries significant legal and public policy implications for Mr. Bush..." The goal is to provide the legal cover against any future war crimes charges
2) there cannot be a "war on terror" by the US because the US is the leading state sponsor of terrorism. Seems hard to believe, eh? See Noam Chomsky's devistating critique of the so-called war on terror presented at Amnesty International 2006 annual conference http://www.chomsky.info/talks/20060118.pdf
There is a story here beyond the memorialization of a lie--that we are (or ever were) at war with Al Quaeda--which is certainly bad enough. But the more ridiculous spectacle is that any such obscure legislative provision passed inadvertently by Congress (and kept from public debate and discussion by its obscurity) could justify endless war.
This is as old as the scheming in the Babylonian court of Nebuchadezzar to exterminate the highly placed government minister Daniel and later the decree of Xerxes at the insistence Haman that on a certain date all the Jews of Persia should be exterminated.
The solution (besides closer scrutiny of legislative proposals on the part of the public prior to their passage)is to realize tht in America there is no such thing as any unalterable decree (the law of the Medes and Persians) and that it is the job of every incoming congress and Presidential Adminstration to search out laws that no longer make sense-or never did in the first place-- and repeal such.
This would be a nice 100 day workload for the incoming Obama Adminstration and a Democraticaly controlled Congress and Senate:
Revocation of the USA Patriot Act:
Revocation of the Military Comissions Act:
Revocation of the alterations to FISA Act:
Revocation of the Taft-Hartley Act (at long last!)
Suspension of all signing statements of the Bush Adminstration by Obama.
Reenactment of the Wagner National Labor Relations Act
Reenactment of the Glass Stegal Act regualting banking, securities dealers, and other lending institutions.
Revocation of private contracts to provide either security or intellegence to the US government and their replacement by government employees held accountable to either the code of mIlitary conduct, civil service regulation, or US criminal law.
Without such vigilence the Fascist state will simply go into hibernation awaiting metamorphises into an even more frightening monster at the election of the next neoliberal/neocon totalitarian adminstration.
Closing Guantanamo and letting each of those prisoners appear in public with a lawyer of their choice is another act I would recommend.
Joe
What the heck, I thought we were at war with Eurasia.
Maybe the push for a reaffirmation of the war on terror proposed document has some fine print to pardon our criminal government and coconspirators? A good reason to push it through now.
r Snowwolf: Do you understand at any level how hilarious your posts are on this progressive site? Got a suggestion for you-the sudden elevation of Gov. Palin should mean you're in Seventh Heaven.She's a creationist-has given birth to 5 kids in this overpopulated world-and loves to shoot automatic weapons.If "Johnny Boy" croaks we could be stuck with a female President who makes Margaret Thatcher look like a wuss.Heavenly-eh Snowwolf?
Hell.....My kinda' girl
as the Marines say "Happiness is a belt-fed weapon"
Great post RichM.
I think there is a lot of merit to what you say.
Historically, this is what my America is. A world empire. And like other world empires of the past, it is vulnerable to massive implosion into it's rotten core. (Think Rome, Britain, Spain.) It's going to implode unless we as citizens resolve to vote for a third choice (NADER) and fix the core. Obummer isn't going to improve anything. He is beholden to the corporate sponsors who he "owes." And those corporate sponsors don't care if they bankrupt what's left of the U.S. Treasury inventing some new "boggieman" to start another fake war over.
I can't help but notice, the BushMonkey is trying to crank up another Cold War before he leaves office so his defense stock will skyrocket. Missile shields, stealth Iron curtain operations, oil company pipeline domination, "Evil Empires".... Didn't we already see this crumby "Star Wars" movie? "Ray-Gun" it was called?
The last seven years have been a fight for control of energy and the profit of that energy. And to war profiteering interests at the expense of the people's future standard of living.
Now the poles are melting. It this what you want for your children? A living hell on Earth?
Intelligent Solutions are unheard of:
1. Population Control: one family, one child, no exceptions. Tax the hell out of violators.
2. Park everything private with an internal combustion engine ASAP.
- OR -
Let the methane melt out of the permafrost and we'll all slowly suffocate.
And this election is about what? Belief in a fictitious deity, economy, jobs and fake wars.
You Homo Sapiens deserve to go extinct, imho.
Contact Congress to show you are watching. If they do not hear from anyone, they will blithely pass whatever Bush wants. If they hear from enough people, they may be afraid of losing their lousy little sinecures in the future.
Cynicism is appropriate, but please don't let cynicism paralyze us. We have to utilize any opportunity, however small, to oppose this.
Here is a website for easily finding anyone who "represents" you:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
Joe
Well, gosharootie, the Democrats won't let that happen! They'll be the party of peace and sanity, just as they've been since 2006. When we "hold their feet to the fire," they listen and respond!
They sure won't just go along with the Republicans.
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The only ones that have "forgotten the 9/11 attacks" are the pig ignorant 'believers' that think Bin Laden and some 'terrorists' did it.
Those of us a little more educated know it was a set up and won't be fooled. We HAVEN'T forgotten and won't ever forget until a serious investigation into the event is completed, naming those responsible, and they are subsequently brought to justice.
It's truly annoying to see someone imply that the 9/11 attacks are 'forgotten'. I bet they wish they were.
If the ideas is to protect the US, they don't know what they are doing. They have never had any clear information about which few individuals are determined to attack the US.
Most people in the Middle East hate and fear us, with good reason at this point, but just want to live their lives: food, water, education, peace and an opportunity to find freedom in their own way. A prolonged war will cause further ruin and death and strengthen support for anti-US activity. It will benefit only the war contractors and leaders who depend on conflict to justify their existence, such as warlords and the Israeli regime.
Bush and Cheney are stupid, stubborn, selfish and mean. Do not give them the authority to send our children and spend our money to fight what they cannot even understand. Only harm can come from this.
Only Congress has the right to declare war. OR NOT DECLARE WAR. Contact every Congressperson about how you expect them to vote and why. You may want to mention complicity in war crimes. Then tell a neigbor or friend about the issue.
Joe
This "war affirmation" reminds me of Columbus who, while completely lost off North America whether he knew it or not, forced his ship's crew to take an oath and swear that they had reached China---not least, though he knew they had no way at all to know the truth of their oath. It didn't work because the oath did not have any reference to "reality." And neither will this whether Congress kisses Bush's butt once more as the outgoing door hits his ass. The "war on terror" is a disaster, a foolish waste, a profitable program in futility wherever you look, and the question is only how much more death and waste before we realize what has been said by a few astute others---that 9/11 should be treated as an international crime and no more than that, unless also as a wake-up call to the American Empire that the colonial game is over. With more than HALF of the supposed 9/11 hijackers KNOWN to be still alive and living overseas, who can possibly doubt it was an inside job? But just wait to see the complete 180-degree turn the MSM and GOP take together when a Dimocrap inherits all the criminal "powers" Bush gave himself---suddenly this will be "a nation of laws" and they will thwart every anti-terror move the new Prez makes, calling no doubt for impeachment at the first opportunity. Fuckin' DELUSIONARY.
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. a bush was running security for the trade center at the time. Cheney was running 'war games' the day of...open your mind if you havent already... the current government is the enemy, the current government is the terrorist.
i saw a funny bumper sticker once. it said 'dont steal, the government doesnt like competition'
right on the money!
i would add 'dont kill anyone, the government wants that exclusive right'
America is fucked, Dim or Repuke. Too many are brainwashed to the point of no return. time to move...
The thrust of your post is correct. Anyone with half a brain can look at the wall of the Pentagon before it collapsed and see that a
100 ton Boeing 757 could NOT have made such a small hole. And, of course, there was no debris of a 757 at the Pentagon. The whole government theory of 911 is just a theory. Remember how hard the Bushies pushed against having a 911 Commission?? Then, when forced to have the commission, who was the Chief of Staff?? Zionist Zelikow. The 911 Commision report is a total whitewash.
And who was picked to "debunk" the 911 conspiracy theories.....Popular Mechanics magazine. And was in charge of that? Why did Chertoff say he did not know his cousin by the same name?? It is all a scam. The events of 911 benefited which country? Who released the "dancing" Israelis to go back to Israel? Mukasey. And WHO is Mukasey??
911 = made in Israel.
What will we get with John (bomb, bomb, bomb Iran) McCain?
"Commander: Aggression on Iran to start world war"
Deputy chief of Iran's armed forces said Saturday that "any aggression against Iran will start a world war." (Xinhua)
Any damn fool can start (and lose) a war but it is the virtuous and wise leader who avoids war.
RICH M says it all, but great points also from KARLOF 1 & PAUL FROM GA.
Biden's war mongering is a poor asset if Obama thinks he can sell himself as the "peace alternative." What a massive sell-out of the American electorate, not to mention morals. As New Orleans braces for KATRINA II, because this nation's reprobate excuse for leadership was asleep at the wheel, working for more oil, while VENUS in the form of EARTH MOTHER/Demeter sent a near fatal blow to the Big easy... was any lesson learned? Any policies altered to diminish the impacts of global climate change based on our current energy dependency paradigm? NO. So here we go again... until the bad boys step aside and begin to acknowledge that their illusion of POWER is only that; and as their purported Master stated, it's all about SERVICE to our fellow man/womankind. These whores who use power to enrich a few of their colleagues and the VAST expense to now millions, have NO spiritual defense. ZERO. They are consigning more and more to misery by war or climate dangers. And on this failed ship of state, this moral Titanic, the self-arranged privileged few party on and focus ONLY on the election's (probably fixed) outcome. What a travesty!
“But Mr. Bush and his advisers say that seven years without an attack has lulled many Americans.”
Well, well, well, Mr Bush, why don’t you arrange another 9/11 or better 31/12, as you’re getting out the door.
Yes, Bladerunner, and it's the corporations who make the money. It's the most efficient way to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich.
The NYT, in its usual role as The Ministry of Mind-Control, tells us,
"...With violence rising in Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden still at large, there are ample signs of the United States' continued battles with terrorism. But Mr. Bush and his advisers say that seven years without an attack has lulled many Americans..."
- There is no such thing as the "War on Terror." There was ONE incident on ONE day, which was probably actively or passively abetted by the US govt itself. Even if one accepts the very improbable official version of that one day, the idea that the US should react to that one incident by devoting itself to "war" without end against a shadowy & ill-defined enemy is absolutely insane.
Yet NO organ of the US media, and neither big party, even questions the WoT. The only difference between Dems & Repubs on the matter is how best to fight the WoT, not on whether to fight it. Should we send more troops to Afghanistan, or keep more in Iraq? That's the range of respectable opinion in the official "debate." Any naif who might suggest, "Gee, why don't we just forget about using armies for this problem, and devote the resources to health-care, education & infrastructure instead?" would be laughed out of the room (or put in a detention camp).
Day after day, and in every single US media outlet, there are millions of references to the "War on Terror," all echoing the tone of Eric Lichtblau's NYT article. None of these outlets so much as suggests that there's anything the least bit questionable about the WoT as the central element of US govt policy.
By itself, this one phenomenon -- the unity of the US media & both parties in forcing the WoT down the public's throat -- demonstrates the viciousness & bottomless depravity of the US ruling apparatus.
being from new york and working near the wtc on 9/11 i think the war on terror is total bull shit too. i am fed up with 9/11 being used by war mongering assholes to start more wars and more nazi-like flag waving cheerleading for more war. i agree with everything you said rich m.
RichM,
Nice articulation of my thinking, too.
Well put RichM
this war on terror is soo tiresome. will peace ever reign on this spaceship earth?
"Only the dead have seen the end of War"
and Bush has done everything possible to maintain and even escalate this war....
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Now we have a Vice Prsidential candidate in the form of an Alaskan Governor. According to Newt Gingrich, she is quite a patriot and quite a good shot. Perhaps we might use her in Iraq on the "Front Lines" in the war against terror. Put 'er in uniform, give 'er a sniper rifle and let 'er fire away. She's seems to be just what the 'surge' needs.
Perfect timing for a proposal. If you don't vote for it you're supporting terrorists. Democrats don't have 60 votes. Arlen(talk is cheap) spector will end up voting for it. We're screwed.
Neither Bush nor very many other people in Washington -- not even the denizens of the Pentagon -- seem to have read Sun Tzu: "There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited."
They likely consider him irrelevant because he lived about 2,500 years ago ...
Bush and the neo-Cons never intended the NATION to benefit. Only their little elite group, which has been making money hand over fist on the phony "GWOT."
Never ending war. Money to be made!
Bush instigated a War OF Terror, as millions of his victims will surely attest. It is Big War's everlasting Wet Dream.
The U.S. is the world's #1 terrorist nation. When will americans accept this and wake up and change it?? When will the world say "enough is enough" to US?? The hypocricy of "the war on terror" is mind-boggling!!
The U.S. is the world's #1 terrorist nation
What are you smoking?...
What are YOU smoking, Snow? Elephant tranquilizer? Or are you just a troller for the RNC? Your ignorance is so gaping it makes Britney Spears look like a member of the intelligentsia.
We should ask what the hell are you drinking? Probably moonshine that makes you deaf, dumb and blind.
Gee, what a surprise. Our president is seeking to continue a war on terror. Who woulda thunk it.
Yeh right, but Congress passed all his other stupid ideas. Let's see were their loyalty lies on this one.
First it was the Indians, then it was the commies, now it's the terrorists.
Barack Obama was for single payer before he came out against it.
and now you can only find Communists in Cuba, North Korea and the Faculty lounge at Harvard...and of course on this website
And the Indians all run Harrahs Casino's...not a bad deal
S'NeoWolf sez: "And the Indians all run Harrahs Casino's...not a bad deal"
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You've misplaced your apostrophes; the correct usage is "Harrah's Casinos".
A good propagandist should be seen as having proficiency in the use of language.
You conveniently forgot to mention that China is also a communist state with a population of 1.3 billion communists. Yet you forgot to state this despite its recent 24/7 global media coverage.
SnowWolf, I'm glad to hear that you consider yourself a communist. Welcome. But in order to prevent ourselves being mistaken for ignorant conservatives, we ensure that our statements are factual.
China is quickly becoming more capitalist than we are...the ony vestiges of Communism they haven't dropped yet is oppressing their people
So what did you do at HUAC? Where have you been since that rancid piece of garbage Joe McCarthy was sent packing? Why do you seek to reverse the clock to the 1950's with such an ignorant rant about communism? I thought you ideologues were all about hating Muslims these days?
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
The American Enterprise Institute is a communist organization. Within AEI is a very clear understanding of the shared agenda and the shared benefit from each individual member action. But isn't AEI a social-darwinistic king-of-the-hill hierarchy? Puleeeze. It's a gentle fraternity of mutual coddling and support among equals. All the far-right extremists at AEI NEED each other desperately. AEI is not alone. All of the capitalist, imperialist, fascist factions and groups exhibit the most impressive communist behavior among themselves.
The wider population would do very well to observe and learn the communist culture and practice within AEI, Heritage Foundation, AIPAC, PNAC and all the far right groups. You can see they've been extremely productive, that is in terms of accomplishing their diabolical objectives. Sure they over-extended themselves and the whole thing is blowing up in their faces. But the fact remains they built their giant machine with the energy of mutual cooperation. And they will rebuild - again by coddling each other in a most incestuous "pinko commie" orgy.
The answer is real simple: do not give the administration the wartime budget it seeks.
George and Laura aren't the only ones who've earned their place on the war crimes gallows.
The only thing Congress should be considering at this point is Bush's IMPEACHMENT
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
I'm sure they will get around to that...If and when he does something Impeachable...you KNOW they would love to for payback for Clinton....fact is he's done it all by the book and they know it
S'NeoWolf sez: "...fact is he's done it all by the book and they know it"
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"The book" is Mein Kampf.
We'd prefer he do it all by the Constitution.
Do you live in a closet?
Cheney not only can be impeached but, if justice is to be served, he should spend his remaining days in a federal prison. That little matter of illegal wiretapping is only one in a long list of constitutional violations committed by this administration.
It is damn lucky for that execrable pair that the dmeocratic party is spineless and complicit. Perhaps you live on Tralfamagor and are simply unaware of the doings on this planet?
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
isn't gonna happen...I assure you
your whole movement is based on false premise and innuendo that won't hold up to scrutiny....
its like when they wanted to lynch KKKarl Rove for leaking Valeri Plames name when the whole time it was Armitage over at State with a bad case of "Big Mouth"
or trying to make a big deal of the eight Federal Attorney firings.....Clinton fired ALL of them...they serve "at the pleasure of the President" of COURSE he can fire and hire as he see's fit...for whatever reason...if the Democrats had anything on Bush or Cheney they would roll with it
Never mind your premise that Rove was not at the bottom of the Plame leak, he so obviously was, never mind the abysmal ignorance or worse, distortions, of the facts of politicising the Justice Dept at great peril to our entire nation, the real point here is your total devotion to crooks and liars and your betrayal of the nation itself, the constitution and the people.
Your posts are models of propaganda at the expense of fact, of logic, of truth, and of justice. You should be very, very ashamed of your betrayal of the nation and of honest debate.
I challenge you ( and anyone else reading this post) to link here:
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=67609
and listen to this interview with a REAL conservative, Colonel Bacevich, by Bill Moyers. I warn you that it is a rather lengthy one, one that you, as a committed neocon and traitor will find uncomfortable at best, it may also make you very ashamed of yourself.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Considering this action came from the same creepy incompetent crew that allowed 9/11 to happen on their watch and used the hysteria to get the USA into the Iraq fiasco, this policy should be one of the first things reversed if Obama wins the White House. Just as Bill Clinton had to watch his legacy trashed by his selected successor, so to should the Crawford, TX village idiot watch his "work" torn up while he stews in retirement.
NateW: They never reverse anything when it comes to pure power, and as we've seen, Obama is nothing more than the same as what we've got--albeit, Obama CAN can complete a sentence and write his name.
With Obama and his congress in-tow, we're gonna see some REAL ugly stuff come to pass. They've already shown what they'll do by backing everything the Boy Idiot has done. Expect more of the same.
They never, ever give-up power.
Did you ever stop to consider that Congress goes along with it because it HAS to be done?...why else would they do this?...think he's blackmailing them?...they get the briefings...and they put on their little posturing, finger pointing show...but they know what we face...and they let him take out the threats...they are mealy mouthed politicians but they aren't totally stupid
Just the Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxers and Dennis Kucinich's...and they pretty much shut them up
If only you would follow your own advice and stop to consider your own position.
When the Tenth Mountain regiment had binLaden trapped in the Tora Bora Mts. who was it that decided to relocate that division and let Osama flee to Pakistan? It was the same Commander in Chief who you now support to "win" a war he has proven incapable of even understanding, much less prosecuting successfully.
You posture about our legislators yet refuse to remember that they voted to allow Georgie to have his little war based upon lies and the distortion of intelligence. Several senior intelligence analysts took early retirement in fact rather than bow to the wishes of John Bolton and Dick Cheney on their almost daily visits to Langley seeking responses that failed to match the data.
There is one very good reason to tell George to stick this up his ass, actually many more than one but Ill stick to that. Because George Walker Bush is
THE
WORST
PRESIDENT
EVER
That meally mouth crack would seem to be an analysis of this post of yours actually. Ignoring the overwhelming amount of facts we now know about the way this administration lied must be difficult for you, especially knowing that so many lives were lost, and continue to be lost so Cheney's Halliburton stock would flourish.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
"You are either with us of against us". - George W Bush, Nov 6, 2001.
When every congress person that voted against the Iraq invasion authorization, Patriot Act, etc being immediately labeled "soft on terrorism", yes, I would say that is blackmail. These kind of isolation tactics are career-killers.
The Bush's Administration's policy of divide and conquer is the hallmark of an inherently evil administration that is also too incompetent to unite a country for a common goal.
The GWOT has polarized America. But common goals for the betterment of America such as preventing climate change, energy independence from renewable sources, a vibrant economy, and a healthy population are not important to the political parties of the elite.
bush wants war against the wind. They have no country, no borders nor any army. Yet bush seems to think that he can fight a war against terrorists. If nothing else proves that the man lives without a brain this does.
Pah, don't boggart that joint my friend, pass it on over here.
Once more, the Sith will rule the galaxy and there shall be peace.