I would've liked that a Socialist Party would win this elections. Or the Green Party. Green Party and no Party in this world is perfect (Nothing is perfect). However the Green Party has a welfare-economic-nationalist model, like the economic model that Hugo Chavez used in Venezuela when he became president in 1998. Which was not a socialist-model but a welfare-humanist economic program. And that's what this country needs. We need nationalization of key elements of the American Industry under democratic workers ownership, US constitutional reform. To turn the US constitution from a plutocratic, oligarchic, imperialist constitution toward a participative-democratic socialist constitution which would shift power from corporations and government to the people. Just like Cynthia Mckinney said: "Power to the people." But the US government cannot give power to the people by magic, in order to do that, the US government would need to do constitutional, economic, political, social reforms (A total radical reform of the whole US govenrment). Just like Hugo Chavez did in Venezuela.
In any case, there is hope with Obama. What the US-Socialists have to do, is to pressure the Obama government to do socialist-reforms that the USA needs, to turn USA into a modern, democratic-socialist humanist nation of the XXI Century.
take care all !!
AND AGAIN: IT IS TIME TO CELEBRATE THE END OF 8 YEARS OF FASCISM, FREE MARKET CAPITALISM AND ZIONIST IMPERIALISM !!
.
Posted by vicj
Nov 5 2008 - 4:44am
Congratulations U.S.A. The whole world was watching this one more than any other. According to a CNN review, the only countries hoping for McCain apparently were China and Iran. Go figure.
Now the trick will be to keep Obama safe from any redneck or skinhead who wants to go out in a blaze of glory for their cause.
That is MY greatest concern in all this. Is that Obama be given the chance to lead and impliment his ideas. Time will tell. Hope the Secret Service has a bubble to keep him in and a Popemobile for his public visits.
The WORLD needs Obama, in order to bring back some hope and goodwill into the news and discussions.
Greetings from the Great White North
Posted by evanj
Nov 5 2008 - 3:02am
Some States are wierd.
what the hell is going on in West Virginia?
Also Nebraska, which is clearly above the Mason-Dixon line, and ought to be like Iowa.
And why does Oak-la-homa have the highest McCain fan club in the country???
Posted by TMinSD
Nov 5 2008 - 5:08pm
My state wasn't too far off. I don't know about WV but this geographical column of states haven't been getting much in 50 years. I'm sure Obama will at least try to come around and work with us and not write us off the way Bush/Cheney did.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Posted by Saila
Nov 5 2008 - 8:53am
evanj,
It's not the states, but the folks who live in them. I know you were trying to be nice.
Posted by snydly
Nov 5 2008 - 12:56am
snydly
DEMOCRACY COMES TO THE USA!!
MAY WE NEVER AGAIN LOSE IT.
Posted by tweck
Nov 5 2008 - 11:59am
Well, we'll see about that. It's a little premature to hail a return to Democracy just yet.
Posted by REFUGEE
Nov 5 2008 - 12:27am
Congratulations America!!!You have shown us all that there is some hope for your country.As the mother of another Obama (one of the main reasons I left America)I now know my son who lives in the USA can aspire to achieve all his dreams.I cried when I saw the outcome..
Posted by Ann R. Key
Nov 5 2008 - 12:09am
Just an FYI, the comments are going fast and furious at Fox.
AFTER 8 LONG YEARS OF FASCISM. THIS LOOKS LIKE A DREAM !!
NOW THE WORK FOR OBAMA BEGINS !!
HE WILL NEED TO RE-BUILD USA, PROSECUTE NEOCONS, AND DO THE SOCIALIST REFORMS THAT THE USA NEEDS TO DEMOCRATIZE THE COUNTRY AND TO DECREASE POVERTY LEVELS
.
Posted by Ann R. Key
Nov 4 2008 - 11:24pm
I didn't know he said he was going to PROSECUTE NEOCONS. Are you sure about that?
Posted by marxist-socialist
Nov 4 2008 - 11:40pm
if i steal something at a Wal Mart i would go to jail. We are in a presidential system, not in a *King* system. The president is not special. And there is proof that Bush is culpable of mass-murder in the war on Iraq. Go to this link for that information:
THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE W. BUSH FOR MURDER
http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/about.php
In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.
As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.
A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.
Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice.
Posted by Ann R. Key
Nov 4 2008 - 11:44pm
Don't get me wrong, I think there should be many prosecutions. I just don't think Obama is going to do it. Or maybe I missed something.
By the way, I voted for McKinney.
Posted by Saila
Nov 5 2008 - 8:46am
I don't think a president(Obama)has anything to do with the prosecution of a criminal. The only thing Obama could do was to issue a pardon, if the criminal is not hanged before the end of Obama's term.
Posted by marxist-socialist
Nov 4 2008 - 11:55pm
wow cool. Cynthia Mckinney is real smart. If this country was smart and informed, Ralph Nader, Cinthia Mckinney and socialist parties would win elections by landslide. But you know how dumb and easily swayed by corporate media people are
Take care, and in the mean time celebrate Obama's victory.
Posted by Ann R. Key
Nov 5 2008 - 12:07am
I have to admit, I am happy that McCain did not win. But, Obama is not McKinney. Have you seen the videos of McKinney grilling Rumsfeld? Even so, McKinney isn't perfect either. I just like her style. She seems real, except for that promo video she did for the Green Party. She didn't seem her natural self.
Posted by marxist-socialist
Nov 5 2008 - 9:36am
Ann R. Key: Hi how are you again? your education and information is a lot better than many US voters out there. Yeah Green Party and no Party in this world is perfect (Nothing is perfect). However the Green Party has a welfare-economic-nationalist model, like the economic model that Hugo Chavez used in Venezuela when he became president in 1998. Which was not a socialist-model but a welfare-humanist economic program. And that's what this country needs. We need nationalization of key elements of the American Industry under democratic workers ownership, US constitutional reform. To turn the US constitution from a plutocratic, oligarchic, imperialist constitution toward a participative-democratic socialist constitution which would shift power from corporations and government to the people. Just like Cynthia Mckinney said: "Power to the people." But the US government cannot give power to the people by magic, in order to do that, the US government would need to do constitutional, economic, political, social reforms (A total radical reform of the whole US govenrment). Just like Hugo Chavez did in Venezuela.
In any case, there is hope with Obama. What the US-Socialists have to do, is to pressure the Obama government to do socialist-reforms that the USA needs, to turn USA into a modern, democratic-socialist humanist nation of the XXI Century.
take care
Posted by Clemsy
Nov 4 2008 - 11:10pm
Congratulations America. The Great Experiment isn't over yet.
Now... tomorrow start emailing and calling and being an overall pain in the ass to your reps and new president.
Ok, so Arizona's swung back to McCain, but Virginia's been called for Obama, and McCain's expected on TV momentarily to concede. We'll see how he does. I used to respect him, but I had lost all respect for him due to the way he ran his campaign - maybe he'll take the high road at last in his concession.
Posted by marxist-socialist
Nov 4 2008 - 10:58pm
I am in Knoxville, Tennessee, i don't understand how come there are so many capitalists in Tennessee, when most people are not doing well economically, and when neoliberal capitalism of privatized utility, health and low-wages is actually decreasing the living standars of most Tennesseans. Why can't people in this state be more socialist, when socialism means wealth for the majority. While neoliberalism means wealth for the neoliberal corporations and private utility corporations.
Posted by vicj
Nov 5 2008 - 4:14am
Oh maybe it's because less than 20% of Tennesseans are black and the rebel flag is so prominantly displayed in y'all's vehicles, Martin Luther killed in Memphis, you get the picture. Not a socio-economic thing.
Posted by muddmike
Nov 4 2008 - 10:33pm
If those 202 votes for Obama are solid, then he has won, since Ca, OR and WA, which are pretty sure give him 73 more, for at least 275 total !!!!!
Posted by bholder
Nov 4 2008 - 10:14pm
Check out Arizona - McCain could lose his home state! W00t!
Posted by Ann R. Key
Nov 4 2008 - 10:28pm
I think you may have spoke to soon. Did a complete flip going from 2 percent to 4 percent reporting.
Posted by decrepittex
Nov 4 2008 - 10:10pm
Well, Texas was just added to the McLame side, as expected, but Obama got
votes from my wife and I, from one daughter, and from my 97 year old (white)
father. So far I haven't been able to break him from using the "N" word. I
guess when you're 97, old habbits are hard to break. But he cast his vote
today for Obama, even after his pastor preached that Obama was the anti-Christ.
I'm sure it had to do with McCain's stand on the occupation in Iraq. He is
anti-war because one of his brothers was KIA in WWII. We tried, Go Obama!!
Posted by DodgerBlues
Nov 4 2008 - 9:47pm
To McCain and Palin.....Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah hey hey hey goooodbye!!!
Posted by erobertsonatmail.com
Nov 4 2008 - 10:07pm
Why are the representatives who voted for the BAILOUT getting re-elected?
Like Fattah in PA?
We should be giving them the boot!
Posted by KDelphi
Nov 4 2008 - 9:37pm
My pc just cannot handle al this traffic, in addition to all the graphics that every damn site automatically downloads tonight. Shouldnt I have to click on it?
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 8:40pm
50% to 50% popular vote...
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 8:38pm
102 of 270 and counting...
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 8:21pm
51% to 48% popular vote!
GObama!
Posted by Doodahman
Nov 4 2008 - 8:20pm
They already have the winner predicted out in New Mexico!
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/10/28/art.winner.cnn.jpg
Peace,
Mike H (hoping they're right...)
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 8:12pm
81 of 270 and counting...
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 8:11pm
Joe Biden wins!... Delaware~
Posted by Rik
Nov 4 2008 - 8:04pm
Here in San Francisco it has been storming hard for the past three days -- a welcome development due to our drought. Today's forecast was for more rain, but this morning I was awakened at 7:30 a.m. by sun through the windows and voices outside. I got out of bed, put on my robe, opened the front door, and across the street was a long line of folks lwaiting to vote at the polling place in the garage of a home directly across from ours. That same home has been a polling place since we moved into ours 22 years ago, and never has there been a line in front of it on the morning of any election day! Since this morning there have been constant sunny blue skies with an occasional fluffy cloud, and a constant line of sunny blue-state voters out in front of our home.
Posted by Puck..Twain
Nov 4 2008 - 9:57pm
Hopefully that was Sheehan people up and out early. Pelosi maybe having a good night, but for fascism to totally fall in this country...she's gotta go too!
Posted by ChynahMoon
Nov 4 2008 - 8:37pm
Hey Rik in San Francisco,
Sacramento is home for us but we're living in Arkansas. SF is close enough for me! How's it look there now? Are you getting any exit polls? wish we were there to help out with some of the Propositions! Good luck to all of us! If we win, won't it be wonderful to have won a race with no dirty tricks?
Posted by UpUpAndUp
Nov 4 2008 - 8:25pm
Hi, Rik!
NC is looking good. If Obama wins, it'll be a real boost for progressives in this state. I've been telling you for years about the good people here, now more of my western and nortern friends will believe me.
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 8:07pm
77 of 270 and counting...
Posted by jeroboam bramblejam
Nov 4 2008 - 7:51pm
Can we presume that the early reporting precincts are the smaller ones, and therefor the more rural, and therefor more heavily weighted toward the red?
63 Comments so far
Show AllIT IS TIME TO PARTY, EAT AND DRINK FOLKS !!
CONGRATULATION OBAMA !! MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU !!
I would've liked that a Socialist Party would win this elections. Or the Green Party. Green Party and no Party in this world is perfect (Nothing is perfect). However the Green Party has a welfare-economic-nationalist model, like the economic model that Hugo Chavez used in Venezuela when he became president in 1998. Which was not a socialist-model but a welfare-humanist economic program. And that's what this country needs. We need nationalization of key elements of the American Industry under democratic workers ownership, US constitutional reform. To turn the US constitution from a plutocratic, oligarchic, imperialist constitution toward a participative-democratic socialist constitution which would shift power from corporations and government to the people. Just like Cynthia Mckinney said: "Power to the people." But the US government cannot give power to the people by magic, in order to do that, the US government would need to do constitutional, economic, political, social reforms (A total radical reform of the whole US govenrment). Just like Hugo Chavez did in Venezuela.
In any case, there is hope with Obama. What the US-Socialists have to do, is to pressure the Obama government to do socialist-reforms that the USA needs, to turn USA into a modern, democratic-socialist humanist nation of the XXI Century.
take care all !!
AND AGAIN: IT IS TIME TO CELEBRATE THE END OF 8 YEARS OF FASCISM, FREE MARKET CAPITALISM AND ZIONIST IMPERIALISM !!
.
Congratulations U.S.A. The whole world was watching this one more than any other. According to a CNN review, the only countries hoping for McCain apparently were China and Iran. Go figure.
Now the trick will be to keep Obama safe from any redneck or skinhead who wants to go out in a blaze of glory for their cause.
That is MY greatest concern in all this. Is that Obama be given the chance to lead and impliment his ideas. Time will tell. Hope the Secret Service has a bubble to keep him in and a Popemobile for his public visits.
The WORLD needs Obama, in order to bring back some hope and goodwill into the news and discussions.
Greetings from the Great White North
Some States are wierd.
what the hell is going on in West Virginia?
Also Nebraska, which is clearly above the Mason-Dixon line, and ought to be like Iowa.
And why does Oak-la-homa have the highest McCain fan club in the country???
My state wasn't too far off. I don't know about WV but this geographical column of states haven't been getting much in 50 years. I'm sure Obama will at least try to come around and work with us and not write us off the way Bush/Cheney did.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
evanj,
It's not the states, but the folks who live in them. I know you were trying to be nice.
snydly
DEMOCRACY COMES TO THE USA!!
MAY WE NEVER AGAIN LOSE IT.
Well, we'll see about that. It's a little premature to hail a return to Democracy just yet.
Congratulations America!!!You have shown us all that there is some hope for your country.As the mother of another Obama (one of the main reasons I left America)I now know my son who lives in the USA can aspire to achieve all his dreams.I cried when I saw the outcome..
Just an FYI, the comments are going fast and furious at Fox.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/wrap-polls-start-close-frenied-day-voting/comments/
826 Comments at Fox.
McCain concedes to Obama! But it ain't January yet. A lot can happen in two months.
There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.
I still can't get Fox's interactive map to work, but they have called it for Obama.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/wrap-polls-start-close-frenied-day-voting/
IT IS TIME TO DRINK, EAT AND PARTY FOLKS !!
AFTER 8 LONG YEARS OF FASCISM. THIS LOOKS LIKE A DREAM !!
NOW THE WORK FOR OBAMA BEGINS !!
HE WILL NEED TO RE-BUILD USA, PROSECUTE NEOCONS, AND DO THE SOCIALIST REFORMS THAT THE USA NEEDS TO DEMOCRATIZE THE COUNTRY AND TO DECREASE POVERTY LEVELS
.
I didn't know he said he was going to PROSECUTE NEOCONS. Are you sure about that?
if i steal something at a Wal Mart i would go to jail. We are in a presidential system, not in a *King* system. The president is not special. And there is proof that Bush is culpable of mass-murder in the war on Iraq. Go to this link for that information:
THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE W. BUSH FOR MURDER
http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/about.php
In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.
As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.
A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.
Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice.
Don't get me wrong, I think there should be many prosecutions. I just don't think Obama is going to do it. Or maybe I missed something.
By the way, I voted for McKinney.
I don't think a president(Obama)has anything to do with the prosecution of a criminal. The only thing Obama could do was to issue a pardon, if the criminal is not hanged before the end of Obama's term.
wow cool. Cynthia Mckinney is real smart. If this country was smart and informed, Ralph Nader, Cinthia Mckinney and socialist parties would win elections by landslide. But you know how dumb and easily swayed by corporate media people are
Take care, and in the mean time celebrate Obama's victory.
I have to admit, I am happy that McCain did not win. But, Obama is not McKinney. Have you seen the videos of McKinney grilling Rumsfeld? Even so, McKinney isn't perfect either. I just like her style. She seems real, except for that promo video she did for the Green Party. She didn't seem her natural self.
Ann R. Key: Hi how are you again? your education and information is a lot better than many US voters out there. Yeah Green Party and no Party in this world is perfect (Nothing is perfect). However the Green Party has a welfare-economic-nationalist model, like the economic model that Hugo Chavez used in Venezuela when he became president in 1998. Which was not a socialist-model but a welfare-humanist economic program. And that's what this country needs. We need nationalization of key elements of the American Industry under democratic workers ownership, US constitutional reform. To turn the US constitution from a plutocratic, oligarchic, imperialist constitution toward a participative-democratic socialist constitution which would shift power from corporations and government to the people. Just like Cynthia Mckinney said: "Power to the people." But the US government cannot give power to the people by magic, in order to do that, the US government would need to do constitutional, economic, political, social reforms (A total radical reform of the whole US govenrment). Just like Hugo Chavez did in Venezuela.
In any case, there is hope with Obama. What the US-Socialists have to do, is to pressure the Obama government to do socialist-reforms that the USA needs, to turn USA into a modern, democratic-socialist humanist nation of the XXI Century.
take care
Congratulations America. The Great Experiment isn't over yet.
Now... tomorrow start emailing and calling and being an overall pain in the ass to your reps and new president.
That goes for you Nader fans too.
Testify!!!
I can't get Fox's interactive to work. Curious.
http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
Florida's called for Obama as well. Starting to look near landslide proportions.
Commondreams makes it three.
Now C-Span/AP has called it for Obama.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/election_night_2008/election_map_premium/index.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS
It looks like CNN has already called it for Obama. It switched right when the polls closed on the west coast.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/
Ok, so Arizona's swung back to McCain, but Virginia's been called for Obama, and McCain's expected on TV momentarily to concede. We'll see how he does. I used to respect him, but I had lost all respect for him due to the way he ran his campaign - maybe he'll take the high road at last in his concession.
I am in Knoxville, Tennessee, i don't understand how come there are so many capitalists in Tennessee, when most people are not doing well economically, and when neoliberal capitalism of privatized utility, health and low-wages is actually decreasing the living standars of most Tennesseans. Why can't people in this state be more socialist, when socialism means wealth for the majority. While neoliberalism means wealth for the neoliberal corporations and private utility corporations.
Oh maybe it's because less than 20% of Tennesseans are black and the rebel flag is so prominantly displayed in y'all's vehicles, Martin Luther killed in Memphis, you get the picture. Not a socio-economic thing.
If those 202 votes for Obama are solid, then he has won, since Ca, OR and WA, which are pretty sure give him 73 more, for at least 275 total !!!!!
Check out Arizona - McCain could lose his home state! W00t!
I think you may have spoke to soon. Did a complete flip going from 2 percent to 4 percent reporting.
Well, Texas was just added to the McLame side, as expected, but Obama got
votes from my wife and I, from one daughter, and from my 97 year old (white)
father. So far I haven't been able to break him from using the "N" word. I
guess when you're 97, old habbits are hard to break. But he cast his vote
today for Obama, even after his pastor preached that Obama was the anti-Christ.
I'm sure it had to do with McCain's stand on the occupation in Iraq. He is
anti-war because one of his brothers was KIA in WWII. We tried, Go Obama!!
To McCain and Palin.....Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah hey hey hey goooodbye!!!
Why are the representatives who voted for the BAILOUT getting re-elected?
Like Fattah in PA?
We should be giving them the boot!
My pc just cannot handle al this traffic, in addition to all the graphics that every damn site automatically downloads tonight. Shouldnt I have to click on it?
50% to 50% popular vote...
102 of 270 and counting...
51% to 48% popular vote!
GObama!
They already have the winner predicted out in New Mexico!
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/10/28/art.winner.cnn.jpg
Peace,
Mike H (hoping they're right...)
81 of 270 and counting...
Joe Biden wins!... Delaware~
Here in San Francisco it has been storming hard for the past three days -- a welcome development due to our drought. Today's forecast was for more rain, but this morning I was awakened at 7:30 a.m. by sun through the windows and voices outside. I got out of bed, put on my robe, opened the front door, and across the street was a long line of folks lwaiting to vote at the polling place in the garage of a home directly across from ours. That same home has been a polling place since we moved into ours 22 years ago, and never has there been a line in front of it on the morning of any election day! Since this morning there have been constant sunny blue skies with an occasional fluffy cloud, and a constant line of sunny blue-state voters out in front of our home.
Hopefully that was Sheehan people up and out early. Pelosi maybe having a good night, but for fascism to totally fall in this country...she's gotta go too!
Hey Rik in San Francisco,
Sacramento is home for us but we're living in Arkansas. SF is close enough for me! How's it look there now? Are you getting any exit polls? wish we were there to help out with some of the Propositions! Good luck to all of us! If we win, won't it be wonderful to have won a race with no dirty tricks?
Hi, Rik!
NC is looking good. If Obama wins, it'll be a real boost for progressives in this state. I've been telling you for years about the good people here, now more of my western and nortern friends will believe me.
77 of 270 and counting...
Can we presume that the early reporting precincts are the smaller ones, and therefor the more rural, and therefor more heavily weighted toward the red?
3 and counting...