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Show AllNow the righties have to decide who is more godless - A Mormon or a Muslum. Gonna be some serious praying, 'wailing and gnashing of teeth' in the Gomer states come November. Pat Robertson is running all this by God right now. 'This is not the hand of God but the hand of gays and the demon baby killers......'
This is so friggin' hilarious!! and whose the muslim? Go Gays and demons!! Baby killers are not allowed however. NIMBY at least. I think goddoG must be laughing his ass off.
"Pat Robertson is running all this by God right now. 'This is not the hand of God but the hand of gays and the demon baby killers......' "
Hey, lighten up on old Pat, he came out for decriminalizing marijuana the other day. Maybe he has lighted up a few himself.
How about we drop all this hot air about who is or isn't a theist or atheist? It gets tiresome. Who care? Other things can be much more easlily debated.
Big bang is fine, but it doens't prove or disprove God's existence. It is simply a good explanation of how the universe started which was on the order of so many atomic bombs exploding. It in no ways even tells us all the solar systems let alone galaxies which are out there.
"The gods, too, are fond of a joke."
~ Aristotle
Tell the hundreds of thousands of human beings who were mutilated, deformed, tortured, and killed in the immoral wars on Afghanistan and Iraq that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were appointed by God to save American lives.. Talk about Blasphemous!
Shrub and Cheney are war criminals, pathetic cowards. International scum. Someday the truth will out.
Can't even travel to Canada - ha!
With this circus plugging for God, we agnostics have little to worry about. Oh, I forgot, this is the United States of idiocy.
God: 4 for 4.
Whoever said these clowns were for God? I get that THEY did, thats what clowns always say.
God 0 for 4! Thank Goddess!
Hail Eris!
Praise Bob!
That was my thought ... that if there were an actual God, she would be a perfect 4 for 4 by knocking this quartet out of the park. Problem is, now we're headed to extra innings ...
What about if Satan was the one telling the yahoos to yahoo? Maybe they didn't realize they were repeating history doing the "Satan operating in the human form" as Henry Wallace used to refer to it.
We don't hear much about Satan anymore do we? He's probably on some "terrorist" list.
Delete. Double post.
"We don't hear much about Satan anymore do we? He's probably on some "terrorist" list."
No. Satan has been employed by the national security apparatus for some time now. Actually, he is responsible for drawing up the lists of those "He" deems to be terrorists. Satan is a very busy devil.
Thomas Gilbert-
P.S. " the devil's greatest trick was convincing most of the world that he did not exist." ( Usual Suspects )
Gobbels,
Yes indeed. Extra innings and the batting order is not all that promising...To say the least.
Thomas Gilbert-
Even GOD can't help the GOP
All these Ten Commandment fetishists broke the Second Commandment, taking the name of God in vain. I wish the punishment were more severe.
My mantra: "Republicans: 0 out of 10 Commandments".
Speaking of the Ten Commandments and punishment: next time you hear someone insist that we should be displaying the Ten Commandments at [fill in the name of your favorite public space here], insist to them that we ALSO display the punishments for violating those and other Old Testament commandments.
Curse God? Death. Curse your parents? Death by stoning. Commit adultery? Death. Commit a homosexual act? Yep, you guessed it: death.
Either these Bible-thumping hypocrites truly BELIEVE that the penalty for all these acts should be death (I doubt it), or they are GOING AGAINST THE WORD OF THE BIBLE.
For most of us, this is a non-issue. Of course we will "go against the Bible" if it means that common sense and empathy for our fellow man/woman allows us to cut sinners a little bit of humane slack. But let there be no doubt: We do not execute God-cursers, parent-cursers, adulterers, or homosexuals in this country -- not BECAUSE of the Bible, but IN SPITE of the Bible!
It's called secularism ... humanism ... or whatever you want to name it. But it sure as hell ain't true to the Bible. Which is why I have nothing but disdain for the selective, convenient "moralism" of these god-awful, self-righteous, "Christian" assholes. If Jesus actually met them in person, he would throw up all over their professionally-tailored asses.
Ask Herman Cain if we should execute homosexuals. If he says no, or if he waffles on the issue, then he clearly DOESN'T believe in the Bible, the little prick.
Tell it! Awesome. Well said.
Almost. The bible in their hands is only the rulebook / user manual for John Q. Public. The way the psychology of those reptiles (conservatives) works is that the punishments are for YOU, for everybody else. For themselves, they have Redemption, remember - feeling really, really sorry and weepily confessing in public, compliant Little Woman in tow. The in-group will protect them.
This is the issue that all the recent articles on conservative vs liveral mindset haven't addressed. It's the other shoe. The severest punishments are for the other guy. They have a completely separate rulebook for themselves. They like you to be under control and predictable so they can do what they want. It's that primitive, and it's innate.
I don't remember homosexuality being covered in the ten commandments. Any version of them.
I think really it's the 10th one that would stimey any politician or businessman:
"You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor."
All marketing campaigns including political ones involve inciting to covet.
False witness is also kind of a thorny issue for politicians especially.
There were more than 2 tablets. Butterfingers Moses dropped one when he was running down to get away from the fire.
I am so tired of that compendium of myths and admonitions dominating discussions and policies. I gotta tellya: the Norns are super-pissed!
I want a sticker, a Norse/Sami sticker on every bible declaring it is only a theory (myth). I'd settle for a FSM sticker in a pinch. Yar.
If the other animals were irrational and believed in God, the devil would look like a human being.
If you doubt the veracity of this statement, may I respectfully suggest you need to go beyond the comforting values and rhetoric of normalized human extremism and start doing some investigating -- before it's all illegal.
And if you remember your bible well enough you would notice that most of those punishments tended to be handed out mainly to women. For some reason the men never seemed to be the transgressor! Because like in adultry, it takes two to Tango! And all of those revisions, suffer not a warlock, wizard, no, no, witch, thats it! Suffer not a witch to live amongst you! Mainly because warlocks and wizards tend to be men? And yes, I am happily married to a Wiccan, thank you very much!
It must be his divine will that a Mormon is the only worthy candidate. Who are we to argue? Go ye brothers and sisters and convert!
http://mormon.org/free-book-of-mormon/
But of course if all of them and our current president were following the guidelines of our founders, we wouldn't know what their faiths were. They could practice them privately without any ridicule, or scrutiny. They chose to wear them on their sleeves and set a religious test for political office. It appears these four at least flunked the test.
God sucks as a king maker.
god is the invention of king makers and kings. just minutes before kings declare themselves gods.
Blast you all!
God will smack you all down with his mighty penis and then you'll wish you had more wars and more GOP bailouts to suffer under! The prophet Zman said so, on this very site a few months ago.
He said it. I believe it. That's all I need to know.
Amen.
You're probably asking yourself about now: Reverend TJ, why would God smack us all down with Lush Windbag? Otherwise known as Rush the Druggie? And why, Reverend TJ, have you got your hand on my wallet?
My Fellow Worshippers of my Wallet, er, I mean of THE WORD. God works in very mysterious ways. We aren't meant to understand divine money laundering that always finds it's way into the hands of Arms Merchants......
Now I'm going to ask the Church Decons to come forth and recieve God's Tithing Truth. Let Us Pray. Lord, I ask you to open these people's hearts until each man and woman knows to Give what they can, until the un-traceable un-audit-able offering plates overflow with God's Good Work to Gunsmiths, er, I mean, to our friends around the world who are in need of getting shot, er, I mean in need of a shot of hope, of a shot of freedom to worship like slaves, of a shot of the drugs we traffic in covert Missionary Airplane seats.... er, I mean, Thank you O Lord for giving us a reason to take so much from so many....."
I have just spoken to God, and he is willing to forgive all you who have been playing with his only begotten penis that he duplicated in his own image and gave to each of you. And how do you repay him? You choke the Chicken mercilessly, night after night, pretending that it is Shaun Insanity. Is this anyway to treat God's only begotten penis?
God Have Mercy on those who do not seek to buy his free forgiveness (psssst - pass the plates)
rev wright got it right. 1 for 1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright_controversy
{Wright then commented on God and government:
"And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.."[21][22][23][24]....}
...peace...
Amazing isn't it that our president found fault with what was said in that speech? I can't find anything in it that I disagree with accept I don't espouse the existence of any god.
I've yet to hear Rick Warren saying anything as moving or truthful.
"I can't find anything in it that I disagree with accept I don't espouse the existence of any god."
i agree on both counts. rev wright ultimately was an honest person and that apparently was too much for obama, the democratic party and the broader american public.
...peace...
Right. SHE. 'as long as she tries to act like she is God.'
No way a HE would act like that, no, sir. Never mind stories in the bible about other people's farms being the chosen people's just inheritance (so go in and kill those folks and take the milk and honey), or all the slavery that their male god supported.
Puhleeez.
Gosh, no wonder Obama threw the Rev. Wright under the bus! Thanks iiowablackbird, I had never read the full quote before. Another approbriate quote from Rev. Wright: " I will never forget one of the most powerful things he said to me in my office on April 2, 2008. " You know what your problem is, I said what's that------he said you have to tell the truth".
"We don't do God"
- Alastair Campbell, former Press Secretary to Tony Blair.
My work is done here.
FSM
85% of Americans believe in the sky fairy? Really! No wonder we have more than our fair share of morons in this country!
God told me they are all liars.
The crazies have co-opted god. Glad I gave up that myth awhile back.
Interesting that Rev Wright refers to government in the feminine. Can't government be referred to as "it" a genderless article? We also identify nature in the feminine as in mother nature. Why, because of the unpredictability, hence the need to control the feminine?
What these Bible thumping, right wing wacko's don't seem to realize is that they are worshipping the Devil in disguise; otherwise they would not be 0 for 4! Is that the Devil I hear laughing in the background?
If I may... I believe in God, but not in the right wing, evangelical God of the religious right. If these Christians were honest, they would admit that Jesus taught us to follow the Golden Rule (Do unto others as you would have done unto you) rather than the 10 Commandments. I've never seen evangelicals whipped up into a lather about not being able to post the Golden Rule in public places. I assume it's because they themselves dont follow it.
The fundamngelicals do not speak for all Christians, but they do certainly make a lot more noise and have a lot more money.
Interesting observations. They also seem to have abandoned the Beatitudes.
Jesus said: "the Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They do not go in and those who wish to go in they do allow. But You, be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
Jesus said: "the Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They do not go in and those who wish to go in they do allow. But You, be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
Hilarious Herman was, in fact, REFLECTING, as in "looking back", when he said - "Once I made the decision, I did not look back".
I am surely not going to blast who we pray to or any ones Religion. However, I am sure we humans did not arrive by some magic formula or was the Big Bang some uncontrolled explosion.
How it all began I have no clue but we are who we are.
The Ten Commandments sets what standards we should live by and obviously a lot of this planets inhabitants have failed its message.
Also, I do not vote or pick my friends based on their Religious Beliefs.
How Un-American of you, to assume "we pray" at all, or to assume the whole world wants to stare at a stone tablet of superstition from a fairy tale hoisted up on government buildings. Also the Big Bang is ongoing and certainly doesn't need to have an Authoritarian "Control" to it. Believing in the one true "skygawd" is what got us into a world of eternal war and environmental destruction.
We are just dumb apes in the Primate Tree. We evolved from a common ancestor with today's chimps about 6-7 million years ago. We are in the nasty throws of extinction right now because of this crazy belief that some Big Ghost in the Clouds cares and is watching out for us. WE ARE ALONE on this planet. If we keep killing it; it will kill us. Snap out of your silly superstitions people and realize that our only salvation is the one we create for ourselves.
This means Direct Democracy, A Global One Child Policy like the Chinese successfully used and outlawing the private automobile. Anything less is going to melt down what's left of the atmosphere and turn this place into Venus.
TJ
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson - Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781.
But why don't we have any avowed atheists running for office?
Or at least a timid freethinker?