I am so proud of our northern neighbors and as a retired Illinois teacher I am doubly proud of Wisconsin teachers who led the way.
Posted by Whyputaname
Feb 19 2011 - 7:25pm
Amen to that......
Posted by captfoster
Feb 20 2011 - 8:48pm
I was up there in Madison on Saturday... Best time I have had in quite awhile. I posted pictures and a short video of my time on FB here --> (10,000,001 Americans for (HR676) Single-Payer Medicare/aid For ALL ) and even posted my thoughts on what I saw.
Posted by dravazed
Feb 19 2011 - 7:46pm
As we see more messages like this blossoming across the world--and we will--it's important that we share and create maximum visibility for them. Especially in the heretofore silent, passive USA, evidences that active demonstration--and courage--make a difference, need to be broadcast to one and all.
The struggle continues.
Posted by Mors
Feb 19 2011 - 8:12pm
I reside in New Mexico and I am with you as I was with Egypt.
One world, one people!
Posted by Old Guy
Feb 19 2011 - 10:15pm
The Los Angeles Times ran an article today that suggested the events in Wisconsin reflected some kind of "backlash" against organized labor. It was such a misrepresenation of what is really taking place in Madison and elsewhere in Wisconsin that I submitted the following letter to the editor. I doubt that they will print it, so I will repeat it below:
"The events in Wisconsin are not a “backlash” against organized labor. Quite to the contrary, recent polls show that most Wisconsinites support the unions in this struggle. Future historians are far more likely to describe the Wisconsin protests as the time in American history when the working middle class finally engaged the corporate powers and their political cronies who declared class warfare against them many years earlier."
Posted by herdpoisoning
Feb 21 2011 - 8:38pm
the "backlash" manage to get maybe 1,000 tea partiers to try to counterprotest the 60-80,000 pro Union people in the Square Saturday. They left after about an hour. Other than that, no "backlash" has even dared to show its face.
Posted by Samalabear
Feb 20 2011 - 9:01am
We need to keep each other strong. The powers that be love to talk about the global economy? Well, now it's time for ordinary people across that global spectrum to encourage and support each other. That sign is beautiful.
Posted by glenn ford
Feb 20 2011 - 10:35am
Unity and Gandhism
Will defeat Corporatism.
When the Greedy over reach they topple.
Posted by Bob Wiley
Feb 20 2011 - 11:46am
How different yet how alike our lives here are compared to those of our cousins around the world. Different in that far fewer of us are homeless-yet, far fewer spend half our income on groceries, far more still have dreams for their children. Alike in that the tyranny of the many by the few still forces millions onto the streets and into tent cities. We are all Egyptians, we share a common destiny, either we learn to equitably redistribute the wealth generated by the subjugation of our common birthright or we perish, some sooner, some wrapped in diamonds trying to eat their money a bit later.
Posted by Christ on a Crust
Feb 20 2011 - 12:13pm
I LOVE WI
Posted by aussidawg
Feb 20 2011 - 4:54pm
"One World One Pain" indeed. The filthy rich elite have finally pissed the entire planet's population off and the anger is directed at them.
So tell me, where exactly are they gonna run to escape the wrath they have so richly earned?
Posted by wildcard
Feb 20 2011 - 7:20pm
For those of you who want to follow the Global Insurrection Against Banker Occupation (GIABO), check out www.maxkeiser.com. His Keiser Report show is a must-see for anyone interested in fighting back against the banking monsters.
Posted by mot
Feb 20 2011 - 10:54pm
Few realize that the keystone of US "democracy" is "States Rights".
States rights got a bad rap in the aparthied '50s&'60s in the US.....
But(there's always a 'but") it's the key ,in your Constitution, that affirms
that all people of all States of the US have the right to demand, not"ask" to control their sovereign destiny.
Use it or lose it.
Posted by elpoema
Feb 21 2011 - 6:24pm
"There are many today who admit the necessity for change, but still resist it. There are many today who see the crumbling of the old and outworn world of the past, but cling to the old forms.
But there is a new voice being heard among the nations: the voice of Truth, which contains the hope, the promise, of the New Time. This voice will increasingly make its impress on the minds of men, for it is the voice of God, speaking through men."
~ Maitreya, The World Teacher
Posted by amacd
Feb 21 2011 - 9:51pm
elpoema, thanks greatly for the introduction to Maitreya --- I am ashamed to have been totally unaware.
The portion of your quotation, "But there is a new voice being heard among the nations: the voice of Truth" caught my attention first.
The phrase "the voice of Truth" seems to be particularly appropriate in this evolving revolutionary world change.
I had just recently been thinking about how often our corporatist media parrots the standard narrative that 'twitter, facebook, the social media, and all these new communication technologies are what is enabling these revolutions".
And I've come to the conclusion that such technologies are but the tactical aspects of what is going on --- whereas the seminal ingredient and the strategic center of such global revolutions is actually "truth" or "the voice of Truth" (as the teacher says).
It seems to me that the central enabler and energizer of such a revolutionary time and events is really the awareness of 'the truth' and people's awareness of truth vs. hypocrisy --- that people now see both the revealed truth and are shocked at the deceit and hypocrisy that they had been held down by --- whether in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Wisconsin, or throughout the global Empire of lies.
I was shocked and impressed this morning watching some video of the Wisconsin rebellion on Free Speech TV's broadcast of "Democracy Now" when I noticed a young person (maybe a teacher also) holding a big red sign reading "World Wide Class Warfare", and I thought, how prescient to understand "the Truth" that the hypocrisy of global Empire is collapsing everywhere, and that a new voice of truth is being heard universally in this new world, such that a tiny minority of ruling-elite entrenched in corrupt Empire can no longer fool people, or hide the fact that such hierarchy can monopolize all power.
Naturally, the tactical technologies of twitter, facebook, Wikileaks, etc. facilitate transmission of "the Truth", but that it is the awareness of "the Truth" itself which is "the voice in the minds of men" that is the real enabler.
Knowing "the Truth" about Mubarak and his lies of hypocrisy for Egyptian youth is exactly analogous to more American youth knowing (and seeing) "the (same) Truth" about the hypocrisy and deceit of Hillary speaking about freedom and liberty of citizens, while actually seeing on You Tube the beating of Ray McGovern at George Washington University while her thugs beat him.
These truths are universal now on a world wide basis, and everyone can see and hear the Truth of the global Empire's hypocrisy and deceit in every land, and this "contains the hope, the promise, of the New Time."
I was also impressed this morning that "the Truth" stated by Columbia University Professor Hamid Dabashi on "Democracy Now" comports exactly with Robert Fisk's analysis in "The Independent", and that young teacher in Wisconsin, that religion is not the issue to blame or divide us, but that it is the beginning of a world-wide secular revolution against the hypocrisy of Empire, and the "empire-thinking' class that oppresses us all.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
"Liberty over violent empire"
party headquarters
Alan, excellent posting. I can't help but wonder though, HOW MANY Americans actually have seen and know about Ray McGovern or believe that the Tea-bagger support in Wisconson "equaled" those protesting the proposals of their governor?
The "truth" is so easily manipulated by the MSM and most Americans have been indoctrinated to believe that internet news is for 'conspiricy' theory. Even when the MSM is finally caught in lies on one topic, they still are believed to be tellling the "truth" in other areas. Democracy, GMOs, Food contamination, Corporate abuses, Water rights.... you name it, people flock to MSM for 'truth'.
Anyway, I enjoyed your comments up here in Shapleigh.
Posted by amacd
Feb 22 2011 - 7:30pm
Ain't that corner store something?
Best,
Alan
Posted by kudu1000
Feb 21 2011 - 10:21pm
Check this CATO Institute Union Bashing article, one British word for this guy.... Wanker
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12799
Posted by TrouserAttack
Feb 22 2011 - 10:45am
Agreed.
Though, interestingly, if you subsitute the word "corporations" for "unions" it makes a lot more sense...
Posted by curiousteve
Feb 22 2011 - 9:17am
were and are wisconsiners with the egyptian people? that's the question.
was feingold with the egyptian people, or with mubarak as israel's best friend, all these years? that's the question.
was wasconsin investing in justice and peace of the world, or in wall street for the biggest piece of the global imperialist pie that they thought they could get? that's the question.
are the protesters in madison still fighting for the piece of the global capitalist pie that they had thought they had locked in, or are they calling for an alternative world order for justice and peace together? that's the question.
if it was for global solidarity, wisconsiners should / would have occupied the capitol building, calling for the immediate end of all imperialist wars and financial terrorism on the people of the world.
Posted by herdpoisoning
Feb 22 2011 - 11:28am
The occupation is ongoing. It's very likely Obama will be here today. In Madison, it could well turn into such a thing.
I am going to the square soon, if Obama does appear (the SS has been scoping out the square with local cops) I'll try to start a chant like, "thank you, now end the wards like we elected you for".
I know he didn't promise to end them in campaigning, but most of his supporters, esp. here in Madison, thought he would.
Also, the twitter feeds see to have ended from downtown for some reason...
Posted by Rainborowe
Feb 22 2011 - 5:38pm
It isn't a "little labor squabble over pay and benefits." You haven't been following. It's about the right to collective bargaining itself!
Posted by gbruno
Feb 22 2011 - 6:41pm
I guess the guy in Egypt in the picture disagrees with you.
Posted by Two Americas
Feb 24 2011 - 1:08am
No it isn't. teachers and many other state employees were leading the marches in Cairo and had the same grievances. I know you think "America" is special and different. It is time you visit some other neighborhoods then the ones you frequent, it is time you look at reality rather than at the fantasies in your mind.
Mubarak was wholly a creation of the US ruling class, and the oppressive system in Egypt was modeled on the one here.
There is an extreme form of cognitive dissonance on display from many posters these days. On the one had we hear that "revolution will never happen here, because the PTB would just mow everyone down - unlike in Egypt." That suggests that we are in a more totalitarian state here, does it not? But now you trot out the old "American dream" bromide about "our freedoms" - which the Egyptians supposedly didn't have.
Can you really not connect to anything other than your concept of "Americans?" Do you really think that it is all different everywhere else? The main thing that is different here is the belief in American exceptionalism, as you have expressed here.
Posted by hamorabi
Feb 22 2011 - 1:18pm
it is very true that solidarity flows in all directions, the good , the bad and the ugly directions. nothing more confirming to this idiom than the solidarity flow of the armed goones, in wisconsin. the tea party goones who appeared in town halls gatherings, armed with weapons loaded with life ammunitions were intended to discurage law abiding citizens from exercising their constitutioal rights. and they succeeded.you might say that they set examples for the middle east tyrants, i.e., the gaddafys of the world, how to muscle power with shear intimidations. as it turned out that scott and mubarak and ben ali are all made from the same clay.
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Show AllI am so proud of our northern neighbors and as a retired Illinois teacher I am doubly proud of Wisconsin teachers who led the way.
Amen to that......
I was up there in Madison on Saturday... Best time I have had in quite awhile. I posted pictures and a short video of my time on FB here --> (10,000,001 Americans for (HR676) Single-Payer Medicare/aid For ALL ) and even posted my thoughts on what I saw.
As we see more messages like this blossoming across the world--and we will--it's important that we share and create maximum visibility for them. Especially in the heretofore silent, passive USA, evidences that active demonstration--and courage--make a difference, need to be broadcast to one and all.
The struggle continues.
I reside in New Mexico and I am with you as I was with Egypt.
One world, one people!
The Los Angeles Times ran an article today that suggested the events in Wisconsin reflected some kind of "backlash" against organized labor. It was such a misrepresenation of what is really taking place in Madison and elsewhere in Wisconsin that I submitted the following letter to the editor. I doubt that they will print it, so I will repeat it below:
"The events in Wisconsin are not a “backlash” against organized labor. Quite to the contrary, recent polls show that most Wisconsinites support the unions in this struggle. Future historians are far more likely to describe the Wisconsin protests as the time in American history when the working middle class finally engaged the corporate powers and their political cronies who declared class warfare against them many years earlier."
the "backlash" manage to get maybe 1,000 tea partiers to try to counterprotest the 60-80,000 pro Union people in the Square Saturday. They left after about an hour. Other than that, no "backlash" has even dared to show its face.
We need to keep each other strong. The powers that be love to talk about the global economy? Well, now it's time for ordinary people across that global spectrum to encourage and support each other. That sign is beautiful.
Unity and Gandhism
Will defeat Corporatism.
When the Greedy over reach they topple.
How different yet how alike our lives here are compared to those of our cousins around the world. Different in that far fewer of us are homeless-yet, far fewer spend half our income on groceries, far more still have dreams for their children. Alike in that the tyranny of the many by the few still forces millions onto the streets and into tent cities. We are all Egyptians, we share a common destiny, either we learn to equitably redistribute the wealth generated by the subjugation of our common birthright or we perish, some sooner, some wrapped in diamonds trying to eat their money a bit later.
I LOVE WI
"One World One Pain" indeed. The filthy rich elite have finally pissed the entire planet's population off and the anger is directed at them.
So tell me, where exactly are they gonna run to escape the wrath they have so richly earned?
For those of you who want to follow the Global Insurrection Against Banker Occupation (GIABO), check out www.maxkeiser.com. His Keiser Report show is a must-see for anyone interested in fighting back against the banking monsters.
Few realize that the keystone of US "democracy" is "States Rights".
States rights got a bad rap in the aparthied '50s&'60s in the US.....
But(there's always a 'but") it's the key ,in your Constitution, that affirms
that all people of all States of the US have the right to demand, not"ask" to control their sovereign destiny.
Use it or lose it.
"There are many today who admit the necessity for change, but still resist it. There are many today who see the crumbling of the old and outworn world of the past, but cling to the old forms.
But there is a new voice being heard among the nations: the voice of Truth, which contains the hope, the promise, of the New Time. This voice will increasingly make its impress on the minds of men, for it is the voice of God, speaking through men."
~ Maitreya, The World Teacher
elpoema, thanks greatly for the introduction to Maitreya --- I am ashamed to have been totally unaware.
The portion of your quotation, "But there is a new voice being heard among the nations: the voice of Truth" caught my attention first.
The phrase "the voice of Truth" seems to be particularly appropriate in this evolving revolutionary world change.
I had just recently been thinking about how often our corporatist media parrots the standard narrative that 'twitter, facebook, the social media, and all these new communication technologies are what is enabling these revolutions".
And I've come to the conclusion that such technologies are but the tactical aspects of what is going on --- whereas the seminal ingredient and the strategic center of such global revolutions is actually "truth" or "the voice of Truth" (as the teacher says).
It seems to me that the central enabler and energizer of such a revolutionary time and events is really the awareness of 'the truth' and people's awareness of truth vs. hypocrisy --- that people now see both the revealed truth and are shocked at the deceit and hypocrisy that they had been held down by --- whether in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Wisconsin, or throughout the global Empire of lies.
I was shocked and impressed this morning watching some video of the Wisconsin rebellion on Free Speech TV's broadcast of "Democracy Now" when I noticed a young person (maybe a teacher also) holding a big red sign reading "World Wide Class Warfare", and I thought, how prescient to understand "the Truth" that the hypocrisy of global Empire is collapsing everywhere, and that a new voice of truth is being heard universally in this new world, such that a tiny minority of ruling-elite entrenched in corrupt Empire can no longer fool people, or hide the fact that such hierarchy can monopolize all power.
Naturally, the tactical technologies of twitter, facebook, Wikileaks, etc. facilitate transmission of "the Truth", but that it is the awareness of "the Truth" itself which is "the voice in the minds of men" that is the real enabler.
Knowing "the Truth" about Mubarak and his lies of hypocrisy for Egyptian youth is exactly analogous to more American youth knowing (and seeing) "the (same) Truth" about the hypocrisy and deceit of Hillary speaking about freedom and liberty of citizens, while actually seeing on You Tube the beating of Ray McGovern at George Washington University while her thugs beat him.
These truths are universal now on a world wide basis, and everyone can see and hear the Truth of the global Empire's hypocrisy and deceit in every land, and this "contains the hope, the promise, of the New Time."
I was also impressed this morning that "the Truth" stated by Columbia University Professor Hamid Dabashi on "Democracy Now" comports exactly with Robert Fisk's analysis in "The Independent", and that young teacher in Wisconsin, that religion is not the issue to blame or divide us, but that it is the beginning of a world-wide secular revolution against the hypocrisy of Empire, and the "empire-thinking' class that oppresses us all.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
"Liberty over violent empire"
party headquarters
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/21/iran_the_green_movement_and_the
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-these-are-secular-popular-revolts-ndash-yet-everyone-is-blaming-religion-2220134.html
Alan, excellent posting. I can't help but wonder though, HOW MANY Americans actually have seen and know about Ray McGovern or believe that the Tea-bagger support in Wisconson "equaled" those protesting the proposals of their governor?
The "truth" is so easily manipulated by the MSM and most Americans have been indoctrinated to believe that internet news is for 'conspiricy' theory. Even when the MSM is finally caught in lies on one topic, they still are believed to be tellling the "truth" in other areas. Democracy, GMOs, Food contamination, Corporate abuses, Water rights.... you name it, people flock to MSM for 'truth'.
Anyway, I enjoyed your comments up here in Shapleigh.
Ain't that corner store something?
Best,
Alan
Check this CATO Institute Union Bashing article, one British word for this guy.... Wanker
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12799
Agreed.
Though, interestingly, if you subsitute the word "corporations" for "unions" it makes a lot more sense...
were and are wisconsiners with the egyptian people? that's the question.
was feingold with the egyptian people, or with mubarak as israel's best friend, all these years? that's the question.
was wasconsin investing in justice and peace of the world, or in wall street for the biggest piece of the global imperialist pie that they thought they could get? that's the question.
are the protesters in madison still fighting for the piece of the global capitalist pie that they had thought they had locked in, or are they calling for an alternative world order for justice and peace together? that's the question.
if it was for global solidarity, wisconsiners should / would have occupied the capitol building, calling for the immediate end of all imperialist wars and financial terrorism on the people of the world.
The occupation is ongoing. It's very likely Obama will be here today. In Madison, it could well turn into such a thing.
I am going to the square soon, if Obama does appear (the SS has been scoping out the square with local cops) I'll try to start a chant like, "thank you, now end the wards like we elected you for".
I know he didn't promise to end them in campaigning, but most of his supporters, esp. here in Madison, thought he would.
Also, the twitter feeds see to have ended from downtown for some reason...
It isn't a "little labor squabble over pay and benefits." You haven't been following. It's about the right to collective bargaining itself!
I guess the guy in Egypt in the picture disagrees with you.
No it isn't. teachers and many other state employees were leading the marches in Cairo and had the same grievances. I know you think "America" is special and different. It is time you visit some other neighborhoods then the ones you frequent, it is time you look at reality rather than at the fantasies in your mind.
Mubarak was wholly a creation of the US ruling class, and the oppressive system in Egypt was modeled on the one here.
There is an extreme form of cognitive dissonance on display from many posters these days. On the one had we hear that "revolution will never happen here, because the PTB would just mow everyone down - unlike in Egypt." That suggests that we are in a more totalitarian state here, does it not? But now you trot out the old "American dream" bromide about "our freedoms" - which the Egyptians supposedly didn't have.
Can you really not connect to anything other than your concept of "Americans?" Do you really think that it is all different everywhere else? The main thing that is different here is the belief in American exceptionalism, as you have expressed here.
it is very true that solidarity flows in all directions, the good , the bad and the ugly directions. nothing more confirming to this idiom than the solidarity flow of the armed goones, in wisconsin. the tea party goones who appeared in town halls gatherings, armed with weapons loaded with life ammunitions were intended to discurage law abiding citizens from exercising their constitutioal rights. and they succeeded.you might say that they set examples for the middle east tyrants, i.e., the gaddafys of the world, how to muscle power with shear intimidations. as it turned out that scott and mubarak and ben ali are all made from the same clay.
one world one pain?
defeating fear
the remedy