I take my hat off to Berkeley and wish i were there!

Thank you!

Buck ,I agree all those things you listed are mass torture. I could add the imprisonment of innocent Muslim citizens. Many innocent Muslim citizens are rotting away in U.S. cells with restricted privileges and labeled terrorist with ten years to life sentences because they are Muslim men who either founded a Muslim charity or donated to a Muslim Charity. George Bush and Dick Cheney decided that all Muslim Charities funded terrorists either directly or indirectly. In the Muslim religion charity directors are trusted and detailed records are not always needed. In one case the prosecutors claimed they knew where every penny of the Muslims charity went and claimed that it was a slush fund for the directors friends. And yet when they were asked how much their investigation cost the taxpayers, they said it would be impossible to know that.

Deep gratitude to you who are keeping this issue in the public eye. We must not submit to tyranny in ignorance and apathy. What are we willing to risk now to refuse to surrender to a totalitarian catastrophe?

People are not silent, they are joining gang stalking community watch torture networks.

Apparently , most Americans think spying, gang stalking torture and warrant less surveillance are hobby's.

Why read books, when you can get paid to follow by foot or car people that you have been trained to hate.

Yes , gang stalking is a hate crime, and torture.

And the sickest part of all this is that it is fake Christians doing it, and our tax dollars that make it work

Welcome to the united Stazi Torture Freaks of America.

Ya, are you feeling safe now?

Next time your asked a bunch of questions by somebody that are strange, tell them to f-off

not just silent, most people have been actively participating, investing and profiting.

we are the war criminals.

Obama now officially owns torture.

We ask where the German people were when the Nazis tortured and gassed during World War 2? And now Germans ask where the American people are as we torture Muslims?

When I first learned about this issue after 9/11, I thought that surely the law allowed abusing suspects to get information about terrorist plots. The pronouncements of Bush/Cheney, as well as exposure to decades of movies and television shows promoting the effectiveness of brutality in obtaining the truth from bad guys, had that effect on me.

After being confronted by CD commenters who staunchly refused to recognize any justification for torture of any detainee, I began to learn that indeed, the black-letter international and U.S. law on the subject doesn’t allow any justification. Killing people in war can be justified (“just war”), but torture cannot. (I realize many people believe war is as morally objectionable as torture; that’s another issue.) Then the truth destroyed my expectation that lives had been saved by useful intelligence obtained by torturing accused terrorists. Torture hasn’t been established as an effective way to gain such information.

I recite these developments in my thought because clearly most Americans are now where I was then. They think torturing detainees is legally justifiable and produces valuable intelligence. Those two prongs of the matter need to be incessantly attacked by groups like the “diverse coalition” in Berkeley. But equally necessary is emphasizing that torture of detainees is even worse than torture of victims by murderers, rapists, and other criminals who deservedly earn universal condemnation. It’s worse not because the victims suffer more, but because the justified sense of outrage our official policy creates around the globe subjects our own U.S. families to danger from terrorists seeking payback for U.S. torture.