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Oh The Places You'll Go, But Not Without Your RFID Electronic Tracking Chip
Exhibiting scarily Orwellian tendencies, a preschool in California has decided to track their small charges with electronic chips, sewn into tags in their shirts, to monitor where they are, when they're eating and other childhood imponderables that once upon a time actual human beings, preferably parents, kept tabs on. Some pesky opponents worry about the loss of privacy and dignity inherent in treating children like livestock, but the Feds funded the $50,000 project so it must be a good idea.
"Now, when we feed the children lunch we just have to push a button and it's done," said teacher Simone Beauford. "We don't have to check the papers, check the papers, check the papers..."
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Show AllI just say "NO" to the chip.
How lazy can we be?
If your not sure where your kid is without a chip, you don't need to be a parent or a teacher, just buy a dog.
If your not sure what to feed your kid without a chip, you don't need to be a parent or a teacher, just buy a dog.
If you already have a chip in you, you are far worse off than any redneck.
Again I am just saying "NO".
We got to draw the line some where people.
Question: What is the size of your personal space, 3ft around you???
Not according to the Federal Gov't they want to be inside you. Thats the next step.
Another way to treat kids as commodities whilst having one teacher and maybe one assistant watch over 50 or 75 in a class. After all, education can't be profitable without being able to conveniently track the inventory.
well put. The goal of the global elite is to desensitize, and dehumanize us all...and of course...to depopulate.
I think that the Government funded it says it all.
you are right. this is some sick police state shit. we might as well flush the constitution down the toilet. even kids have to be tracked everywhere?
just shows this country is on its way to a police surveillance state.
thank you asshole dims and repugs.
matt
harris county green party
galveston tx
Exactly. And starting the little ones out with chips gets them "used to it" so that when they become adults they will be "used to being tracked" as if it is something normal instead of the sick fascist thing it is.
exactly!
Government funded = the chipmaker is providing quality campaign contributions to the right people.
No Child Left Unmonitored.
ain't THAT the sad truth!
Those who invented the chip have been intent on putting it into humans. They introduced the concept with animals. They then went to Virginia and tried to put the chips into prisoners and those who received welfare. Failing there, they pushed for chips for those who want to check out of the grocery store or go through the subway turn stile faster. Big Brother is here. Look at ON STAR, where they can hear every word you speak in your car. Then there is the GPS built into cell phones and cars...
As soon as my cell phone contract is up I'm dumping it just for that reason. As it is I leave it at home. I don't need to be all that accessible by anyone, but especially the government.
i've used these for checking out in grocery stores, public transportation in chicago, toll roads. i have enjoyed the convenience they offer. my cell phone has the capability of being [gasp] tracked! i actually use it as a safety feature since my job often involves traveling to people's homes. my husband and i both feel a little more at ease knowing he can see where i am.
i understand not trusting the motives of a corporation that is just trying to push their product to make money - coming up with every conceivable use for it and then trying to convince potential customers why they need it. i even agree with stiffening against this. but do you really think anyone cares about "every word you speak in your car"? what payoff could possibly be gigantic enough to justify the time and money put into surveillance of this magnitude - if they were even capable? they can't even tell you how much money you owe them at the end of the year!
sewn into shirts...
the same shirt every day, or several shirts per kid?
shirts they put on when they get there and take off when they leave, or shirts they wear when not at school?
what are the limits to monitoring?
I could see a clip-on, maybe, or a school-only garment like a wristband, but sewing into a shirt seems a bit permanent...
the drone is a lost battle...the subdermal chip will be a tough win, as those who wish it will continue to hammer away, using every available tactic...
It's a school issued vest.
Non Serviam - I will not serve.
does anyone know what school? city or county?
I read the article referenced in Abby's description, and the school district is Contra Costa County, located in the San Francisco Bay area, with a population of just over 1 million people (Contra Costa County website) -- and preschoolers will be tracked in Richmond (Richmond, CA website), a city of about 103,000 in Contra Costa County. The young children will wear something like a basketball jersey with a sewn in RFID chip.
I wasn't able to discover the number of teachers per number of students/preschoolers, or, anything about how the school rooms are set up for the teachers and students. Pushing a button -- and lunch is served? I'm skeptical of this new system they are creating. Since the teachers can now track the preschoolers, are people hired to oversee the tracking throughout the school day? Or, will teachers sit and watch the tracking system instead of watching the children? For me, it's unclear.
More importantly, the disconnects between students and teachers are increased with the tracking system, and the personal attention children receive from teachers decreases. At least, that's the way it seems to me. Of course, more and more people are much more comfortable watching a computer screen than they are mingling with real people/children, etc.
My ultimate opinion is to vote AGAINST the RFID electronic tracking chip.
thank you Kay!
There is only one answer to this, parents should never send their kids to a school where they don't get the love, care, and respect they deserve. We should see how lucrative a corporate contract is when no one goes there anymore.
Sorry, there's another answer called the LCR chip. When this RFID is attached to a small child at school, the microchips detect, analyze, quantify Love, Care, and Respect being received from Teachers by each child.
This is a wonderful technology. It allows real time monitoring by parents of the LCR their child is receiving at school. Too low a rating could trigger such reactions as an aggrieved parent dashing to the school with a baseball bat to generate more LCR for their child. Actually, a line of wonderful RFID chips could be designed for educators to wear continuously at work, despite the protests of teachers unions. Their goal would be to remove every shred of privacy and dignity teachers presently possess. Information Receivers located in faculty toilets could reveal important information in order to protect the children. Who could be opposed to that?.
"Technology is such a boon." If this shibboleth is not stated aloud at 15 minute intervals you become a =person of interest=.
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From 1984 by George Orwell:
"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire [RFID chip] whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."
"WAR IS PEACE - - FREEDOM IS SLAVERY - - IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."
"Never again will you be capable of ordinary human feeling. Everything will be dead inside you. Never again will you be capable of love, or friendship, or joy of living, or laughter, or curiosity, or courage, or integrity. You will be hollow. We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves."
"We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. [Technology is a boon.] We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."
true. money talks.
i don't get the "big brother" fear. i mean, do you really think the gov't gives a shit about how many times your 3yr old goes to the bathroom? the fact is, teachers and aids are taking on more and more "responsibilities" primarily based on the expectations of the parents. my local pre-schools and kindergarten classes receive an alarming number of students who haven't reached the basic academic cornerstones of early childhood development. "why bother teaching your child things they're supposed to learn in school? that's what teachers get paid for!" my point is not that these chips will directly help with academic achievement, but i can easily see how they could free up some time for the teachers/aids to spend more one on one time with their students (who are needing more and more of it). how many times have you come across a story about a lawsuit happy (or simply belligerent) parent beside themselves with disdain for a teacher/aid that made a mistake and didn't keep track of food intake, bathroom visits, naps, allergies, attendance, whatever? we all make mistakes and some parents seem to forget that when it comes to child care (provided by others, of course). because of that educators and child care providers are becoming bogged down with the bureaucracy - which takes time away from their real jobs. they really do have keep logs of everything in order to cover their asses from the crazier parents, while needing to spend extra time teaching the fundamentals the children should already know. they're being pulled from all sides - "do more, spend less". a "facebook friend" of mine just posted something this morning about how outraged she was that the school called her at home saying her daughter wasn't in school today. "oops she marked the wrong name is not okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - the fit she threw with the principal could very likely cause a new policy making the teachers take attendance twice before calling home. [rolling eyes]
the idea that the gov't is some overpowering evil force is CRAZY. that money comes from you and if you don't like the way it's being spent, get involved in more than just the controversial presidential elections. go to school board meetings if you don't want to see something like this happen in your children's school. talk to like minded parents about joining you. there's only so much time and so much money to achieve the list of goals - all of which are set up by the parents in one way or another. cut the list of goals. toss more money into the budget. offer up a better solution. but don't assume that the parents of the children at this school are being forced against their will to accept some crazy sci-fi gov't conspiracy to take over their children - teaching them from an early age what it feels like to be cattle. that's just fear mongering - something common dreams usually speaks out against.
and i'm all for the progression of technology. my 2yr old is already as good with a PDA than my mother is. i look forward to watching her generation build on what we've learned and passed down. it's how we progress. did you know this same technology is available in the health care industry? doctors have the ability to monitor their patients while at home and see almost immediately if there is a dangerous change in heart rate, arrhythmias, blood pressure, glucose levels, even whether or not they've taken their medication. how helpful could that be for people who are high risk, in the later stages of life, mental illness or who have a tendency to forget or may not be able to get to the phone in time... what's stopping it from being more commonly used is the fear of big brother. i think that's just silly. even shameful. :(
So you'll have no problem at all allowing the government (school system) to insert a subdermal chip in your kid. In fact, you will be the first to volunteer to have a subdermal chip inserted under your own skin for all the reasons you mention above. And, the sooner the better, right?
i don't think i ever said subdermal, nor did the OP. but one able to be put on and removed when the circumstances called for it, for all the reasons listed above, absolutely :)
....and you vote.
Well said Laura. As a former teacher I would hate to add up the the amount of time taken up taking attendance, logging bathroom breaks, calling the office to find students. All time that could have been spent teaching. These are tracking tags folks, not implants.
Are you unfamiliar with the term slippery slope? I thought you all are supposed to teach these sorts of things. This support for the forward march of technology, pointing out only the 'positives' and not even raising a question about the 'negatives' is very disappointing coming from your profession.
The problem is that following the "success" of taking attendance for kindergartners via RFID, it will be proposed to track grade schoolers.
Following the success of tracking grade schoolers, it will be proposed for tracking highschoolers.
Following the success of tracking highschoolers, it will be proposed for tracking teachers.
Following the success of tracking teachers, it will be proposed for tracking employees.
Following the success of tracking employees, it will be proposed for tracking citizens.
Get it yet?
Employees are already tracked via RFID. Many company badges have RFID chips in them and you have to use them to get into your work area. While you may think that they are monitored only when you place the badge next to the door sensor, there is nothing to stop your employer from monitoring any area whenever they please from many feet away.
However, you can wrap the badge in foil if you are especially paranoid so that the readers cannot access them. But many companies require that badges be visible at all times so this is not an effective method. Remote reading of driver license and passports, however, can be prevented by wrapping them in foil, since they do not have to be left visible.
Soon tin foil will be outlawed. Then, who is the real looney?
"slippery slope" is a legal term that sounds ridiculous to me when used by someone without a legal degree, especially while trying to justify standing in the way of progression - to the left or right. it's my favorite argument used against gay marriage - it'll open the door for people to marry their dogs!! haha! anyway, it's not as dramatic as all that and would make for an interesting conversation if you have a couple of lawyer friends to discuss it with. how far could the leap be...
and i do consider the negatives. realistic ones, like - is it safe for my child to be exposed to these low frequencies for such an extended length of time, day after day? i don't however, feel outraged for the employee that can no longer stop off at the bar between service stops. employees have rights, sure. but the employers have a right to take advantage of the technology available to ensure that their business is running as smoothly as possible, including knowing that their employees are where they're supposed to be - both for safety and efficiency reasons. where in our constitution does it say that we as employees have the inalienable right to slack off on the job?
again i ask, what makes you think the gov't cares that much about each and every one of your mundane, repetitive movements? to track where every single person is, at all times, what they're saying and who they're saying it to - can you even wrap your head around how much data that is??? our extremely competent and efficiently run gov't is going to keep track of this why??? because you read it in a sci-fi book?? i wouldn't worry about it if i were you. long before we slip that far down the slope, we'll be harvested by the aliens that planted us here.
I find it strange you defend these hi-tech monitoring devices so much???
Why don't you get a chip and then tell the rest of us what it is like!!!
***Also noticed a slight mistake on what you said***
"Long before we slip that far down the slope, we'll be harvested by the aliens that planted us here."
This is close but, God planted us here. The aliens(fallen angels in disguise) are trying to corrupt what God has planted on earth....US.
Aliens are nothing more than demons/fallen angels breaking the laws of the universe in their spaceship/UFO's that are known as wickedness.
Why so many UFO's on this one little planet in a gigantic universe???
Its cause they(aliens/fallen angles) are stuck here. No living thing can go past the moon, it is a barrier. That's why we haven't since the 60's.(no progress)
The earth is the pit they are chained to. That is why you see so many here.
Try to find the movie "Loose Change" its about 9/11
This is strictly factual and scientific movie.
This is only the tip of the iceberg.
Much more of the research has to do with metaphysical properties.
Secret Societies manipulate the society you see.
Check YouTube type in "Nephilim" or "Fallen Angels"
This is who is being worshiped in secret. Then on
specific dates pertaining to the occult they will
implement their plans....example 9/11.
Dec, 21, 2012 is the next date.
Rich people get bored spending their money and instead have contact spirits.
These spirits impersonate other people from the past, but are actually fallen angels who are immortal and live in another dimension.
They observe us and know what happened to people in the past.
Anyways basically top gov't elite work with Fallen Angels to bring about a one
world government.
The Fallen Angels will return around Dec 21, 2012
and say "we are extra-terrestrials" from another planet here to help you save your
planet which you have destroyed and to help you along the next jump of evolution.
Many will be impressed by their high technology, be deceived and follow them.
ALL RELIGIONS ARE TRUE AND REAL.
Some Religions were created by GOD, and other religions were created by the gods(fallen angels).
Dear Laura,
You stated that, "'slippery slope' is a legal term that sounds ridiculous to me when used by someone without a legal degree, especially while trying to justify standing in the way of progression".
Please note, "slippery slope" is simply a rhetorical term that may be used in any and all forms of debate. It is not confined solely for use by educated law degree holders, aka. lawyers. Even less educated school teachers may use the term from time to time.
Secondly, RFID tags do not emit low frequencies. Even when careful measurements are taken day after day, no low frequencies have ever been detected originating from an RFID. However, READERS emit RADIO frequencies which READ the RFID chip. Please take note of this as there will be an exam.
Third, you need to be aware that sentences begin in capital letters (those are the BIG ones), and end with a period like this. <-- :)
Fourth, as a mother you should be outraged for the GPS monitored employed mothers who get in trouble for stopping off to buy some baby formula along their delivery route. Where in the constitution does it say that an employer has the inalienable right to pay minimum wages and monitor an employees behavior like a 21st century plantation slave owner?
Fifth, to answer your question, Laura, "what makes you think the gov't cares that much about each and every one of your mundane, repetitive movements?", please refer to my above post where I discuss my local green party community meeting which was 'attended' by law enforcement provocateurs who attempted to insight members to get up and "go damage some SUV's" and further inciting the group to, "Let's set fires".
Please consider government actions such as are outlined above, in light of the RFID technology which you advocate as useful progress for, "taking attendance of kindergartners with to save time", as a factor worth considering when you question the governments motivations to, "track where every single person is, at all times, what they're saying and who they're saying it to". Thank you.
Laura, you are so condescending and yet so uneducated for an "educator".
The answer is MORE TEACHERS, MORE AIDES, MORE COMMON SENSE, MORE FUNDING for education NOT chipping (permanent or not!!!)..why didn't they hire a HUMAN BEING to help look after the kids instead of investing that money in their dehumanization! More and more teachers are being brainwashed by the system I see! Good grief! I'm glad my kids are in a charter school that is very free thinking and individualistic still!
Well said Laura. As a former teacher I would hate to add up the the amount of time taken up taking attendance, logging bathroom breaks, calling the office to find students. All time that could have been spent teaching. These are tracking tags folks, not implants.
Would you be OK with a school board that wanted to keep track of it's teachers? Make sure they didn't visit gay bars, or stay out too late at clubs? or visit an abortion clinic? Maybe even make sure they attended church?
ssssttttttrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeettttcccchhhhh
maybe if you compared it to monitoring where the teachers were while on the clock - their classroom, the lunchroom, escorting children on/off the bus and maybe lingering around the corner for a cigarette. hiding out in the teachers' lounge?? i think if you want to "turn the table", you should at least make sure it's the same table, eh?
Monitoring where teachers and students are on school property seems reasonable. During my last year the school had a “Lockdown”situation. An armed student was on his way to the school to blow away the principal. Knowing exactly where staff and students are during such emergencies may well save lives. Perhaps more Columbine students and teachers would still be alive if the police knew where people were located.
naw, let's just take the guns away.
Q...you seem to think this is a conservative agenda ("tracking")...actually, the school systems are quite the opposite!! More and more gay teachers, principals, and board members and esp on curriculum boards making sure their agenda is represented in the govt mandated "tolerance" curriculum. If they did track you and you went to a "conservative Christian" church, it would undoubtably count AGAINST you.
I did represent a theoretical right wing agenda, but you are correct, a liberal agenda could be just as intolerant and suppressive. I consider electronic monitoring and tracking to be potentially dangerous to individuals in a free society. If electronic monitoring is the way of the future then everyone must be subject to it, police, government officials, corporate officials, bankers, everyone.
The watchers must in turn be watched.
yeah..all that time could be spent indoctrinating the wee ones with the govt. mandated curriculum with it's "version" of history and it's "version" of science (pffft!!!)
It's not paranoid if it's the truth hon and like it or not, WE'RE not crazy..but what is happening IS. Don't you see the path we are on? Don't you know that at any given moment if YOU happen to decide to disagree with the powers that be YOU could be labeled a "terrorist" and tracked, taken, "disappeared", "debriefed" and or killed? Sounds crazy, I know. That's what I thought when a friend started showing me this stuff years ago. I actually thought she was suffering a psychotic break. But I'm a librarian, a researcher and a constant student..so I got curious. I've been researching ever sense and..well...it's true..."ignorance is bliss" in a way.
I was recently chatting with a PG&E repairman who came to our place to fix something. After about ten minutes he said that he'd better be going or the office will call him to find out what's going on? "What do you mean?" I asked. "oh it's the damn GPS they have installed, if we're idle for more than 10 minutes, after completing the work order, they call us. They know exactly where we are at all times".
Get ready, it's just a matter of time for us all.
In California cops can now attach a GPS to your vehicle without a warrant for investigative purposes.
During the GWB election cycle the local green party meetings where infiltrated by a law enforcement provocateur. He made statements like "Let's go damage some SUV's".
So the question is, could cops GPS you simply because you attend a Green Party meeting? Does that open you to investigation?
How about if RFID chips slip their way into the daily lives of each citizen over the next few years? What if cops are allowed to sneak an RFID chip into a product you buy or something you wear in order to "investigate" you? What if driver's licenses are made with RFIDs? How about passports... I think the new passports in fact have this.
RFID chips can be read at a distance of a few hundred feet. What freedom do we have if we are constantly, quietly, and surreptitiously being electronically asked "Papers please" without even knowing it?
I'm concerned enough at the new culture of voluntarily offering up your personal information- lists of friends, family photos, political affiliations, contact information, likes and dislikes, places you hang out, rallies you attended, etc via the facebooker.
What a tyrant could do with such info...
fakedemocracy
thats the whole point. people are being watched and progressive and anti-war groups are infiltrated now. anybody with a point of view that is against the crap 'merka is doing around the world and here in the "homeland" is instantly suspect and must be watched.
its dangerous shit and we should not have to put up with it. it is facsist and smacks of a police state.
i am in the green party in tx. should i be worried? no i am not. if i am being watched the watchers go screw themselves.
the real solution is 'merka stop controlling the world and its resources and telling people what to think and do.
fakedem,
AGAIN, I feel the need to point out that while I am sure that what you say is true, not JUST "progressive" or "anti-war groups" are being infiltrated! Conservative orgs like the Tea Party are being infiltrated by fakes and cops too!! This is NOT a left or right issue guys!! Both parties have done tons of damage to our civil liberties PLEASE understand this!! The point is that we ALL have the right (at least for another minute) to free assembly and speech and privacy and we need to protect those rights for EVERYone..even those we disagree with!!!
God forbid you have tummy issues and spend to long in the Head!!! You'll get a call asking what color, texture and how long pretty soon!
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."
"That government is best which governs least."
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?"
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all."
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press."
- Thomas Jefferson
Correction:
"That government is best which governs least" is from "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience", by Henry David Thoreau, not from Thomas Jefferson.
Full quote:
"I heartily accept the motto 'That government is best which governs least'; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe-- 'That government is best which governs not at all'; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
Here in Mexico these chips have been used for years. The elite population have them installed in their bodies so they can be located should they be kidnapped. They used to be inserted in the finger easily with an doctors office visit but the kidnappers got wind of it and started to chop off the fingers of their "victims". Now the chips are inserted in other bodily parts with the hopes the "victims" can be found before their kidnappers cut their heads off.