I think it's damn sexy, but for god's sakes have a decent butt and body. I know overweight people have the same rights... but I have the right to be disgusted :)

Being "Hip,Slick,and Cool" is the same as being beautiful - Its all in the eye of the beholder. In my day - I'm 66 - It was the IN thing to wear your pants below your ass and let your boxers show - It was soooo cool. Now when I see the same thing with the younger generation my first thoughts are negative ones. Then my education, reason, and commonsense kicks in and I realize that the younger genereation are expressing themselves in their own terms the same way my generation did with rock & roll, free love, vietnam,etc. My only regret with Julio Martinez is that I wish I was his age!!!.

So what's the point?

I mildly mourn my increasingly reactionary fashion sense, and the baggy-pants look seems as stupid AND uncomfortable to me as zoot suits and ultra-tight jeans did in their day.

I'm also creeped out by extensive tattooing, matted dreads, multi-inch fingernails, and obtrusive piercings with jewelry that resembles plumbing supplies.

But the most perforated, pierced, dreaded, super-clawed, and tattooed stylistas around don't offend me the way reactionary pissant public figures championing Normal Dress Codes do. Especially petty-ante politicians looking to score cheap demagogic points with the Silent Majority of social conservatives.

So I applaud the judge for rejecting his inner Bill Cosby and implicitly giving the finger to the Fashion Police.

The only thing that's ridiculous about this story are the editor's comments. Another abuse of police power and you "might argue otherwise." I'll take a saggy-panted bro' over a treacherous liberal any day of the week.

This is a hilarious "look", but certainly harmless! I'm sure in 10 years we'll look back in wonder and amazement at this ridiculous fashion trend. But, how the heck is he keeping them up?

Aren't there more important things to worry about?
One more question - at this point - why the belt?

I always assumed that the lower the beltline on the ass, the more drugs the wearer has in him. Add a doo-rag, and dark complexion of course (or a name like "Julio" - but we don't "have latinos" here in the rust belt), and it is almost an invitation to a pig-hassle, to use a very dated phrase.

And, doen't it make it awful hard to run when being chased by a cop?

A old independent bookstore recently closed near where I live and within days it repoened as an urban "culture" shop.

But don't get me wrong, a person does have the right to look ridiculous, and I appreciate the precedent this judge set.

One of the most hilarious moments in "Clueless" was Alicia's Silverstone's narration of her characters thoughts on this fashion statement. It always comes to mind when I see this. Offended, no. I think it's hilarious.

I would have expected at least a suspendered sentence.

Good ruling.

Joe

Sought of an ass backwards ruling !

"Sagging" is a violation of school dress codes all over the country and not just to enforce conformity. Kids will run and if they run with 6 inches of pants below their shoes, and their pant waist on their thighs, they will trip, get hurt and parents will sue the school.

"Sagging" is also a perversely self-denigrating "gangsta" trend; it comes from prison where everybody gets the same size pants and nobody gets a belt because they'll kill themselves or somebody else with it. One reason why you almost never see women "sagging".

"Sagging" goes along with a generally over-sized style with "shorts" that go to the lower shins, jerseys that go to the knees, b-ball shorts that go to the calves (the Juice didn't need them), baseball hats tipped sideways and pulled over the tops of the ears. These guys all look sort of like a little boy wearing his big brother's clothes. That may be more than a coincidence.

It all looks dumber than shit, deliberately. There's so much "representing" and nested irony in this "look" it's hard to de-construct it. The white redneck kids across the street affect the same look and listen to hip-hop, an even weirder twist in the cultural knot. They're all easy marks for the "youth" fashion industry, walking around in sweat shop products trying to be tough and be "down" with whatever packaged "rebellion" is on sale this week.

It's just another sign that in the rush to feel "wised-up" and "cool", we have become instead, suckers. Defiance is not a behavior anymore, it's a "look". Thus defiance = conformity. Well, war = peace, so why not?

Wait till you've seen the goth version. It's all in black, festooned with heavy chains everywhere, and adds dyed hair, tats, piercings, and makeup.

It's more than a look or a statement (other than "Me-too") - it's a deliberate provocation, intended to p*ss off every (productive/working) adult. Passive-aggressive, it comes with the whine, "I just wanta express myself; what're you staring at?" And except for high school students, who can be forgiven (briefly) for experimenting with identity, what's pathetic is that they don't recognize they're such conformists, and to a tired, thread-bare formula. (yeah, I know there's a pun there - you can add it to the pile)

I haven't yet met a single one of these antifashionistas who's been productive or gainfully employed - at least, not in legal pursuits.

This case took place in the Bronx. Outside of NYC and the coastal cities in CA, Julio wouldn't be lucky.

This is an important decision. This means I can now, right in front of my congressman, pull my pants down turn around and waggle my wet boxers in his face to let him know just what I think of his funding the banksters and the wars.

Will you all please join me in a congressional "21-bun" salute?

And I think I'm going to wear my pants at half-mast everytime I see Obama on T.V. from now on, in a Mall or barber shop, grocery, airport.....

In the 70's it was streaking; In the 10's it's loud boxers. Now if I can just find some that say "EatShit, Washington"

TJ

After seeing this picture, who could argue against abortion?

floods and belt above belly button .... my style

I cant see how they could run from the cops with their pants like that, so no problem here.

So how does he keep them up? Don't worry about our sensibilities - just tell us. Doesn't seem possible.

Lack of self-respect and lack of respect for others.

My take? Sign him up and ship him out.

Are you people kidding? Who cares how he wears his pants--save for the little 'f' fashion police who have nothing better to do and should get a life!

Yeah,
The comments on the New York Post were disturbing. People using "ghetto fashion" as a way to judge people. Saying, not only that low pants are bad, but that fat women with lots of children wearing spandex makes them savages. I'm not a fan of these fashions, but to each his own. This racism and judgementalism has caused me a lot of distress. I knew there was institutional racism and steriotype racism (poor blacks are lazy), but I thought Jim Crow/Back of the bus racism was something most racists were ashamed to admit, but ever since Obama was elected it's like we've returned to 1953. The Birthers, talk of literacy tests. How much of this is resentment at a black president, and how much the ever growing Republican sponcered hatred that Democrats can't stop because they refuse to bring real help to the poor and working people?

Thanks, tirebiter and dunderbeck.

While reading these comments, I couldn't help but think of Bill Cosby's depressing descent into militant, reactionary old-fogeyism in the form of a caricatured, finger-wagging Booker T. Washington apostle of progress through slavish conformity with the master culture.

"You'll never get into the 'board room' if you don't cut those ugly dreads and pull up your damn pants!"

This supposed common-sense Tough Love doesn't have room for questioning whether admission to the 'board room' is really the be-all and end-all that its proponents imply.

But Cos' sure didn't have to tell OBAMA twice!

Bring America Back !!!!

I agree with the Judge, and this is a very
Progressive look===long hair for guys has been back for quite a while, and this guy has his cell phone
hooked on as it should be for texting.

Did Elvis get condemned for gyrating his Hips ?
Did rock & roll get condemned as the dance of the
devil ? Were flat top and mop top haircuts condemned as not having parts ? Let us loosen up and by all means stop the frivolous litigation, which is already klogging the courts systems.

skidmark alert!

As revolting as it looks, it was stupid to slap the guy with a disorderly conduct for it charge in the first place.

However, I wouldn't advocate dressing like that for a job or college application/admission interview, or to go to school or work.

Plumbers' apprentice?