Over head valves are just a passing fad.

Funny, it was the gringos here in Southern Arizona who were the invaders, period. Maybe it was different in New Mexico, and Texas even, but I doubt it. You keep talking about people without honor. That just makes me laugh.

I think you are correct in many respects, but let me say first that, like in any population, there are good, as well as those who would steal and exploit. My son is dating a sweet and very well mannered Mexican girl, and we enjoy having her over. There are good folks and not so good in every culture, no? I am married to a Filipino lady, who is as sweet as they come. She has intimated to me her concern for the huge influx of illegals here in NC (according to the news a 500% increase in the last few years!). With the economic downturn, schools have been hit hard, as well as social services. I remember that a group of Hispanic parents had to have a special translator at one of the parent/teacher meetings, and all of the letters sent home regarding students are written in both Spanish and English (my only point here is that these additional services do not come for free). My wife thinks it's crazy that they are not required to learn English, as she had to do to become naturalized; this is from the perspective of an individual who grew up in dire poverty.

Though I've been accused of being superficial here because I assert that Mexicans cannot wholly blame their situation on US policy, but must take some responsibility themselves, I understand something about human nature and desperation. Desperation has no conscience. And as soon as many of these individuals get a chance (with the crumbling economy, it may not be too long either), they will show us what their REAL motives are. As you say, there will be a veritable war, where everyone but the rich (the rich will flee, if necessary) will be fighting for whatever scraps are left. It's been that way for centuries in similar situations, and human nature hasn't changed.

Whether people who post here like it or not, I think your perspective needs to be heard, and the warning heeded. We've been sold down the drain, while being fattened for the 'kill,' and many won't see it coming. Some will be very shocked and feel betrayed by those they tried to help. But by then, it may be too late.

FALSE, in several respects. The only part you're right about is the "desperation" of these extremely poor people in Mexico and Central American countries.

It's very much the fault of the US and its corporatocracy. Otherwise, the situation in these poor countries would be tremendously better. And what I posted definitely is NO insult to the people who "illegally" come to the U.S. to try to get [needed] income for themselves and the families back home. Anyone who thinks what I posted is an insult to these people is very weak in terms of critical thought; or simply likes to superficially demonise others, which is common in the USA.

And it took compliant leaders in those countries for the U.S. and its corporatocrats to be able to achieve the pillage they attained there; often having strategically needed to make sure to replace good leaders with despots. But this only happened because the U.S. government and its corporatocrats were behind this pillagin from the start, to ... the not yet end. In some cases, it's not that the leaders were or are despots, they're sometimes just too weak; like, f.e., in Honduras, where the government, prior to the military coup in June, kept refusing to prosecute Canadian-based GoldCorp's executives, for the extremely criminal poisoning of an area of the country.

Again, this history of pillaging by the U.S. and its corporatocracy doesn't justify the violent Mexicans, but there most likely wouldn't be this violence if it hadn't been for the destruction of the economies and the corruption of the governments in Latin America, committed by the U.S. and its corporatocracy. The "law and order" there would surely have been much better, etcetera.

And who are the violent actors anyway, and, really, why do they commit this violence? What is the purpose, what do they gain from this? Could the U.S., like in many other horrible situations, be behind these violent actors, at all?

Disagree, if you wish, but it's possible for the U.S. to be really behind these violent crimes in Mexico; like the U.S. is behind a lot of extreme criminality, globally, while we just don't have this happening in overt terms; and, overt or not, there's always U.S. corporate media cover-up and propaganda of deceit. The U.S. does a lot of hellish covert ops that are then used by the U.S. political "leadership" to try to fool us into supporting the USA's (once, formerly) secret goal of expanding empire, globally. These violent crimes in Mexico are used by the U.S. to try to buttress its faux drug war, which only serves U.S. hegemony and the criminal U.S. militarised presence and covert ops in Latin American countries. www.narconews.com struck me as a fine resource for this topic.

A peaceful Mexico, f.e., would not be good for promoting the faux U.S. drug war and empire efforts down South. If drugs were being trafficked, but without any violence, conditions would be entirely (or nearly so) peaceful, then this would not be a good reality when trying to promote the faux drug war which is about or related U.S. empire expansionism (and bigotry or stupidity). It could also cause people who haven't been involved in growing the related crops and in trafficking to want to also get involved, to try to derive needed income; therefore, while the U.S. could be very much behind the violent actors of today there, they could also be wanting to frighten other people of their country from also wanting to enter the drug business. That's something the U.S. covert ops could try to brainwash those people to believe and then violently act. After all, efforts to brainwash people in hellish ways is part of modus operandi of the U.S. government and its corporatocracy.

The U.S., during the GW Bush-Cheney admin. wanted to send military forces to Mexico because, they claimed, of these very violent crimes in Mexico against innocent Mexicans. Voila, again; "opportunity" for U.S. empire.

Etcetera.

In no way is this an insult to the poverty-stricken people who migrate to the U.S. in search of jobs that will provide little compensation, but enough that these people can manage to get by with less poverty for themselves and also send some money back to families desperately needing financial help. Au contraire, they are [victims] and like I've always left very clear for my own perspective, their desperation is understandable and deserves humane compassion on our part.

You read like an thoughtless individual, therefore. And you don't explain anything more than the most superficial aspect(s) of the whole reality. Meanwhile, and without being an expert on much of anything, I try to avoid being superficial and the above is all reflective of evil ways that we [know] that the U.S. government and its corporatocrats have long been acting, globally; including in Europe, with the notorious Operation Gladio that the U.S. covertly conducted there.

The U.S. empire [is] a Beast, globally.