Iran has detained up to 500 activists, journalists and intellectuals to try and stem ongoing protests, and has made paramilitary raids on university campuses. More rallies are called for tomorrow.
Some Iranians are also claiming Voice of America and BBC Persia are inciting the masses.
I wish Winter Soldier had gotten this kind of coverage.
Does anyone know of the allegations of Muosavi being complicit in the execution of 7,500 innocent Iranians on " Corrupt of the Earth" charges.
QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH;
MOUSAVI CLOSED ALL UNIVERSITYS FOR FOUR YEARS
AND WAS PRIME MINISTER DURING THE EXECUTION OF 30,000 POLITICAL PRISONERS IN 1981-8
YEP HE'S THE USA'S CHOICE FOR CHANGE, YEAH MASS MURDERERS GO USA !!!!!
Was there this much coverage of the last national Mexican elections supposedly stolen by the Mexican right?
Posted by drew3000
Jun 18 2009 - 9:50am
I think people in Iran do have the scoop on Mousouvi, possibly even a little more than westerners looking from the outside in. Mousouvi is a man of the Iranian establishment, his views are not incredibly divergent from Ahmadinijad in all matters. And yet, like in many countires, people face a "lesser of the two evils" choice. I would think the people posting here would be more than familiar with that concept. Sometimes people don't vote for someone so much as they are voting against someeone else.
As the Iranian author Azar Nafisi said in that oh so western establishment of a media outlet, Al Jazeera: "In order to win Mousavi had taken up the progressive slogans, which he had previously fought against. I was there at the beginning of the Islamic Revolution when he was the Prime Minister, and implemented many of the repressive measures which he now denounces." And, "I (like many others) was thrown out of the university that Mousavi helped to shut down as part of the Cultural Revolution." And yet, still, "Iranian people took up opposition and used an open space to express what they want. Their vote was not just against [incumbent President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad but for what he stood for."
Who is the AEI? Not to difficult to figure out. You can look around the website itself and see. It's better summerised at Sourcewatch and Wikidpedia:
Wikidpedia "The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) is a conservative think tank, founded in 1943. According to the institute its mission is "to defend the principles and improve the institutions of American freedom and democratic capitalism — limited government, private enterprise, individual liberty and responsibility, vigilant and effective defense and foreign policies, political accountability, and open debate". AEI is an independent, non-profit organization. It is supported primarily by grants and contributions from foundations, corporations, and individuals. It is located in Washington, D.C."
Sourcewatch talks about your source's other projects. Here are some of them:
Iraq
"More recently, it has emerged as one of the leading architects of the Bush administration's foreign policy. AEI rents office space to the Project for the New American Century, one of the leading voices that pushed the Bush administration's plan for "regime change" through war in Iraq. AEI reps have also aggressively denied that the war has anything to do with oil."
Tobacco issues
"In 1980, the American Enterprise Institute for the sum of $25,000 produced a study in support of the tobacco industry titled, Cost-Benefit Analysis of Regulation: Consumer Products. The study was designed to counteract "social cost" arguments against smoking by broadening the social cost issue to include other consumer products such as alcohol and saccharin. The social cost arguments against smoking hold that smoking burdens society with additional costs from on-the-job absenteeism, medical costs, cleaning costs and fires. The report was part of the global tobacco industry's 1980s Social Costs/Social Values Project, carried out to refute emerging social cost arguments against smoking."
Water Policy
"At a conference on water policy hosted by AEI in 2006, William Morris, a Professor at Case Western Law School, argued that "markets are essential in providing people with water," because they "provide more information at a lower cost." Yet Morris also acknowledged the downfall of market water management, in the form of the "inevitable movement of water from poor rural areas to rich urban areas."
Finally, you say that "some Iranians are also claiming Voice of America and BBC Persia are inciting the masses." How would this be possible in the midst of a media blackout?
Stop mongering rumours over whose payroll the demonstrators might be on and confess to who is funding you to spread your shoddy attempts at propaganda.
Posted by AD
Jun 17 2009 - 9:53pm
Again, folks read and actually comprehend what John Pilger, that gereatest journalist writing in the English speaking world has said abouty this, "it's not enough for journalists to see themselves as mere messengers without understanding the hidden agendas of the message and myths that surround it,"-- hidden agendas indeed, political fans. Do read between the lines of the cloak and dagger hired guns of the foreign based US and other Western media. Carl Bernstein years ago said it was virtually the rule that the CIA had people in the various US media abroad--- "surprise, surprise."
Try to remember the hot air the US mainstream media fed us about Hugo Chavez and his supporters losing this or that election and suppressing legitimate protests-- sound familiar? Gee!
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Posted by drew3000
Jun 18 2009 - 9:13am
You're all right wingers posing as leftists aren't you? Come on, 'fess up now. Good one. All the methods are there, though: distraction, phony claims, demanding sources while offering none, the use of funny math and strange logic, trying to get people to look anywhere else. The jig is up, now. Who's putting you up to it?
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Show AllSome Iranians are also claiming Voice of America and BBC Persia are inciting the masses.
I wish Winter Soldier had gotten this kind of coverage.
Does anyone know of the allegations of Muosavi being complicit in the execution of 7,500 innocent Iranians on " Corrupt of the Earth" charges.
QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH;
MOUSAVI CLOSED ALL UNIVERSITYS FOR FOUR YEARS
AND WAS PRIME MINISTER DURING THE EXECUTION OF 30,000 POLITICAL PRISONERS IN 1981-8
YEP HE'S THE USA'S CHOICE FOR CHANGE, YEAH MASS MURDERERS GO USA !!!!!
Was there this much coverage of the last national Mexican elections supposedly stolen by the Mexican right?
I think people in Iran do have the scoop on Mousouvi, possibly even a little more than westerners looking from the outside in. Mousouvi is a man of the Iranian establishment, his views are not incredibly divergent from Ahmadinijad in all matters. And yet, like in many countires, people face a "lesser of the two evils" choice. I would think the people posting here would be more than familiar with that concept. Sometimes people don't vote for someone so much as they are voting against someeone else.
As the Iranian author Azar Nafisi said in that oh so western establishment of a media outlet, Al Jazeera: "In order to win Mousavi had taken up the progressive slogans, which he had previously fought against. I was there at the beginning of the Islamic Revolution when he was the Prime Minister, and implemented many of the repressive measures which he now denounces." And, "I (like many others) was thrown out of the university that Mousavi helped to shut down as part of the Cultural Revolution." And yet, still, "Iranian people took up opposition and used an open space to express what they want. Their vote was not just against [incumbent President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad but for what he stood for."
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/Azar-Nafisi
Aside from that, I did the google search you asked for. The top two hits pointed toward some very interesting reading at irantracker.org. Very interesting stuff. Thanks. If you scroll down to the bottom of any Iran Tracker page you'll note that it is © Copyright 2009 American Enterprise Institute.
Who is the AEI? Not to difficult to figure out. You can look around the website itself and see. It's better summerised at Sourcewatch and Wikidpedia:
Wikidpedia "The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) is a conservative think tank, founded in 1943. According to the institute its mission is "to defend the principles and improve the institutions of American freedom and democratic capitalism — limited government, private enterprise, individual liberty and responsibility, vigilant and effective defense and foreign policies, political accountability, and open debate". AEI is an independent, non-profit organization. It is supported primarily by grants and contributions from foundations, corporations, and individuals. It is located in Washington, D.C."
Sourcewatch talks about your source's other projects. Here are some of them:
Iraq
"More recently, it has emerged as one of the leading architects of the Bush administration's foreign policy. AEI rents office space to the Project for the New American Century, one of the leading voices that pushed the Bush administration's plan for "regime change" through war in Iraq. AEI reps have also aggressively denied that the war has anything to do with oil."
Tobacco issues
"In 1980, the American Enterprise Institute for the sum of $25,000 produced a study in support of the tobacco industry titled, Cost-Benefit Analysis of Regulation: Consumer Products. The study was designed to counteract "social cost" arguments against smoking by broadening the social cost issue to include other consumer products such as alcohol and saccharin. The social cost arguments against smoking hold that smoking burdens society with additional costs from on-the-job absenteeism, medical costs, cleaning costs and fires. The report was part of the global tobacco industry's 1980s Social Costs/Social Values Project, carried out to refute emerging social cost arguments against smoking."
Water Policy
"At a conference on water policy hosted by AEI in 2006, William Morris, a Professor at Case Western Law School, argued that "markets are essential in providing people with water," because they "provide more information at a lower cost." Yet Morris also acknowledged the downfall of market water management, in the form of the "inevitable movement of water from poor rural areas to rich urban areas."
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/behind-the-curtain
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/and-again-here
Finally, you say that "some Iranians are also claiming Voice of America and BBC Persia are inciting the masses." How would this be possible in the midst of a media blackout?
Stop mongering rumours over whose payroll the demonstrators might be on and confess to who is funding you to spread your shoddy attempts at propaganda.
Again, folks read and actually comprehend what John Pilger, that gereatest journalist writing in the English speaking world has said abouty this, "it's not enough for journalists to see themselves as mere messengers without understanding the hidden agendas of the message and myths that surround it,"-- hidden agendas indeed, political fans. Do read between the lines of the cloak and dagger hired guns of the foreign based US and other Western media. Carl Bernstein years ago said it was virtually the rule that the CIA had people in the various US media abroad--- "surprise, surprise."
Try to remember the hot air the US mainstream media fed us about Hugo Chavez and his supporters losing this or that election and suppressing legitimate protests-- sound familiar? Gee!
AD
You're all right wingers posing as leftists aren't you? Come on, 'fess up now. Good one. All the methods are there, though: distraction, phony claims, demanding sources while offering none, the use of funny math and strange logic, trying to get people to look anywhere else. The jig is up, now. Who's putting you up to it?
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Good joke. You had me until the emoticon!
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