Mokhiber: Ari, yesterday, I asked you about Koch Industries, which last
month pled guilty to a felony environmental crime. The question was --
the campaign took money from the company and from the employees, and you
said -- it couldn't have taken money from the company, because it's
illegal to take money from the company. Which is true, but I went and
checked, and in fact, Koch Industries Political Action Committee (PAC)
gave $5,000 to the campaign. And the political action committee is
controlled by the company.
Back to the original question --
Ari Fleischer: That's not accurate.
Mokhiber: It is accurate.
Ari Fleischer: The political action committee is comprised of voluntary
contributions from employees.
Mokhiber: But the company decides how to spend it.
Ari Fleischer: The political action committee decides how to spend it.
Mokhiber: But the company controls the political action committee.
Ari Fleischer: It's not corporate -- the political action committee is a
voluntary committee - Is there a question?
Mokhiber: Yes, there is a question -- which I think you dodged
yesterday -- given that this money came from what is now a convicted
corporate felon, does the President have a policy on accepting money
from convicted felons, and should he give it back at least to the PAC, which is controlled by the company?
Ari Fleischer: Again, you are making a tie between individuals and
corporations. That's not the case. Corporations cannot give campaign
contributions and the campaign did not receive corporate contributions.
Mokhiber:: Excuse me, could I follow up, Ari?