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McCain, Circa 2003
There's yet to be a solid, point-by-point effort to expose John McCain's pre-2003 views on Iraq, when (along with his neocon advisers and cheerleaders) he led the charge to Baghdad. Barack Obama, so concerned about how to end the war in Iraq, seems to have forgotten the importance of questioning how it began, especially McCain's pernicious role.
In today's Times, under the headline "Broad Response to 9/11 Offers Outline of a McCain Doctrine," appears a sketchy but useful reminder of McCain's pre-2003 irrational exuberance for war. (As a broader piece on McCain's so-called "doctrine," the article falls flat. There are better pieces on that score, including two authored by yours truly for The Nation, one published in 1999 and the second earlier this year.)
Here's the lede of the Times piece, showing McCain in full jingoistic, damn-the-torpedos mode:
Senator John McCain arrived late at his Senate office on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just after the first plane hit the World Trade Center. "This is war," he murmured to his aides. The sound of scrambling fighter planes rattled the windows, sending a tremor of panic through the room.
Within hours, Mr. McCain, the Vietnam War hero and famed straight talker of the 2000 Republican primary, had taken on a new role: the leading advocate of taking the American retaliation against Al Qaeda far beyond Afghanistan. In a marathon of television and radio appearances, Mr. McCain recited a short list of other countries said to support terrorism, invariably including Iraq, Iran and Syria.
"There is a system out there or network, and that network is going to have to be attacked," Mr. McCain said the next morning on ABC News. "It isn't just Afghanistan," he added, on MSNBC. "I don't think if you got bin Laden tomorrow that the threat has disappeared," he said on CBS, pointing toward other countries in the Middle East.
Within a month he made clear his priority. "Very obviously Iraq is the first country," he declared on CNN. By Jan. 2, Mr. McCain was on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the Arabian Sea, yelling to a crowd of sailors and airmen: "Next up, Baghdad!"
As the Times notes, "While pushing to take on Saddam Hussein, Mr. McCain also made arguments and statements that he may no longer wish to recall." It adds:
He lauded the war planners he would later criticize, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney. (Mr. McCain even volunteered that he would have given the same job to Mr. Cheney.) He urged support for the later-discredited Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi's opposition group, the Iraqi National Congress, and echoed some of its suspect accusations in the national media. And he advanced misleading assertions not only about Mr. Hussein's supposed weapons programs but also about his possible ties to international terrorists, Al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks.
McCain had adopted the neocon doctrine of rogue-state rollback, and he hammered away at that after 9/11
arguing that the United States should go on the offensive as a warning to any other country that might condone such an attack. "These networks are well-embedded in some of these countries," Mr. McCain said on Sept. 12, listing Iraq, Iran and Syria as potential targets of United States pressure. "We're going to have to prove to them that we are very serious, and the price that they will pay will not only be for punishment but also deterrence."
So much for McCain's good judgment. It's wrong even to imply that McCain's disjointed thoughts amount to a doctrine, unless that doctine is: "Kill them all!" The Times also references McCain's near-psychotic readiness to blame Iraq even for the 2001 anthrax attacks, concerning which he said on TV: "Some of this anthrax may -- and I emphasize may -- have come from Iraq."




25 Comments so far
Show AllIn a simple comparison of psychological readiness to take over the responsibilities of the presidency, Obama wins with absolutely no trouble.
Unfortunately, the mainstream media seems determined to keep the public from seeing any behavior which would clearly indicate that McCain is a near lunatic.
jj
jesusofjonesboro August 18th, 2008 11:18 am
In a simple comparison of psychological readiness to take over the responsibilities of the presidency, Obama wins with absolutely no trouble.
Forget McCain, what do you base this conclusion on?
Well, actually, I should have mentioned McCain specifically in that first sentence and not left it open. I base that particular comparison on McCain's behavior.
However, if we test Obama against some of the third-party candidates (Nader, McKinney, Barr, etc.), he still comes out pretty well. Nader would certainly be intellectually equal with Obama (and is probably morally preferrable) but his fringe status raises a question. Why hasn't Nader ever had the grassroots success that Obama has enjoyed?
If I could determine the makeup of a US administration by fiat then I'd probably choose Nader to sit in the big chair. The reality is that some 100 million and more other voters get to make that choice with me.
I voted for Nader in 2000. Look what we got.
jj
"Within hours, Mr. McCain, the Vietnam War hero and famed straight talker of the 2000 Republican primary"
War Hero? This guy was a fighter/bomber pilot killing civilians, in another screwed up war, that got shot down, then survived a lot of years in a POW camp. In his own words, he gave military information to the the enemy so he could survive. For this he received the Silver Star, which was not in compliance with Navy regs.. (Ref. Col. David Hackworth (ret.) in Wikipedia) Having never been a POW I just can't imagine the terror he went through, but to receive a Silver Star for just surviving being a POW, seems to diminish the prestige of the award that others have received for actual heroic acts under fire.
McSame is still playing the war game, and if elected will lead us into a forever war. I think that he came out of that POW camp really screwed up, and failed to get the help he needed.
It is absolutely amazing that the fact that McCain is a senile old bastard is being completely missed by both the MSM and amazingly, the Obama campaign. McCain is almost always confused on major issues, can't remember facts, can't remember what he said last week, expresses no level of deductive reasoning, and can't even follow scripts given to him by his staff who spend most of the time trying to hide him from the cameras or anybody who might ask him a question requiring an extemporaneous answer. This is becoming painful to watch. How much longer will the MSM continue to cover for him?
Well said, jesusofjonesboro.
"I voted for Nader in 2000. Look what we got."
A lot more people voted for Gore. Look what they got. So what? You don't get the result you want so you are going to vote for what you don't want so that you will be surer of getting it? huh?
jlocke123 August 18th, 2008 2:45 pm
Its a damn shame Gore's not running this time. I'd vote for him again.
I wish you guys would give McCain a break. Forget the War Hero stuff, but surving 5 years as a POW means a lot, and he did pay a physical price, thats obvious. And the otherr guys that were there with him speak well of him....so lets move past this and stick to more recent events.....now who mentioned his reasoning powers and mental capacity?
jesusofjonesboro August 18th, 2008 1:15 pm
Well. I'm still trying to figure Obama out. He has left far too many questions unanswered for me. Maybe I will have to vote third party even if it is a protest vote.
Thanks
lwhunt330 wrote: "It is absolutely amazing that the fact that McCain is a senile old bastard is being completely missed by both the MSM and amazingly, the Obama campaign."
Not surprisingly, McCain has early-stage Alzheimer's.
The more you consider the mentality necessary to be "PRO-WAR", the more you see that it is madness. What sane mentality thinks war is a good idea? This is not war to defend yourself or your country. Oh no. This is war to wage. Waging war. How can a rational person think that waging war on cities and nations is of any possible good? (Except for Kem Patrick, banjoman, Jakenewton, and a couple other conservative nutcases)
McCain is irrational. His pro-war stance cannot be justified by any logical rationale. It is amazing to me that he is even considered as a candidate for President. It makes me wonder "President of What?"
the descent of the us into a kind of mass hysteria/insanity society means that invariably you have inmates in charge of the asylum. no surprises here, except that we can sometimes find ourselves falling into the trap of believing that said inmates will really be able to figure this out and offer effective, comprehensive and above all sane strategies for change.
withdrawing support for the criminally insane is the easy part. how to ourselves become agents of change that can reverse the suicidal course this country is on is a bit harder.
but what alternative do we have?
McCain was a prisoner of war some years ago, and he remains a prisoner of war–as do too many US citizens.
The prison is inside us. The need is obvious. We have to let ourselves out and allow ourselves the inner freedom to create a more peaceful life.
www.uspeacegovernment.org
When asked who he listened to and would seek out as an advisor on Saturday night's conversations with Rick Warren, McCain said he would go to General Petraus. He would seek out the advice and counsel of a professional killer. If McCain wins, there is no chance for peace. Think about a hundred year war when you vote in protest!
We need to change our voting system. It's such an easy may to fix the duopolist stranglehold on our politics, I can't believe it's not even on the table in the progressive community. Until we scrap plurality voting and implement a voting system that frees us from the two-party trap, like Approval Voting, Borda Count, Condorcet Method, etc. there can be no democracy in the US.
Hey Everybody!
Where do the Republicans come up with these inferior intellectual and emotional specimens?
McCain is nothing more than another privileged kid who partied his way through his education and youth.
Big deal. He was a prisnoner of war after blowing away his full share of Third World peasants and urban dwellers. Because his Daddy was a big bad Admiral, he was treated differently and better than his fellow prisoners.
This makes him a hero how? What past foreign policy initiatives have indicated that he has any knowledge of the world of competing states?
Simply possessing a history of wanting to kill various peoples doesn't make anyone experienced in foreign policy.
I am really really sick and getting sicker of the McCain war hero bullshit. All I get from the pr is he
permitted the jet he was flying to be shot down by the enemy and ended in a prisioner of war camp - what else did he expect?
A hero does something heroic! saves lives, saves his budies, kills enemy soldiers? McCain totally screwed up and has been given a free ride for it by the Corporate media every since. Well pal I also served my country in the Air Force tho during the Koren War. No I wasn't shot down and I did not get any medals or spend anytime in a prisioner of war camp
but I went were I was sent and did what I was told and the Air Force was evidently satisfied with my service as they give me an horonable discharge when it was up.
I honor McCain for his service as I do all my service budies,but John, while pain hurts if the services gave medals for pain every goddamned one of us is
due one! Big Time!
I want some interviewer to ask McCain "What's a wet start on an A-4?"
locke123
You're right, I should give him a break and talk about more recent events. But I do believe that at 5 years as a POW, and all the crap he went through is manifesting itself in his current life, be it mental confusion, or some other physical or psychological problems, or maybe he's still trying to live up to the "War Hero" label by talking of a war yet to be won. Or maybe his confusion does not have anything to to with his past but is the onset of Alzheimer's. Only his physician can determine that.
As for the present, McCain seems to be following in Bush's footsteps, endless war, tax cuts for the rich, continue to bankrupt the country through the national dept, and no long term policy for renewable energy, except to open up protected areas for drilling, and countless other bad policy decisions.
The Times also references McCain's near-psychotic readiness to blame Iraq even for the 2001 anthrax attacks, concerning which he said on TV: "Some of this anthrax may — and I emphasize may — have come from Iraq."
Robert Dreyfuss calls McCains statement that Iraq may have been responsible for the anthrax attacks "psychotic."
Why?
At this time the FBI was leaking suggestions that the strain of anthrax in the famous letters might have come from Iraq, as Glenn Greenwald has documented in a long series of articles on the subject.
McCain gave a weak endorsement to a possibility that lots of other people were also discussing based on misinformation from the FBI.
When Robert Dreyfuss calls this "psychotic," he discredits legitimate complaints against McCain, and makes the liberal blogosphere look like a bunch of hysterical idiots.
I think McCain would be a disastrous President, but we aren't going to beat him with ridiculous mis-characterizations of everything he ever said.
Unfortunately, in the coming election is what might be called the "worst case scenario". Obama is really the only alternative.
So, is it a case of better the devil you know? A third Bush term?
In this case, I don't think so. Though, I don't think it will represent a drastic change in terms of who's in charge in the USA.
I take some comfort in that if McCain does win, he is NOT Bush, or a "Bush Republican". He might bring some responsibility back to the White House regarding deficits, stop trying to hand over Social Security to speculators, probably would hold the neocons at arm's length as Reagan and Bush Sr. did, has a global warming agenda...
Hopefully he will bring in good people and attempt good government as opposed to Dubya's being installed as a brainless big name front man for special interests and a reckless agenda, and controlled by Rove and Cheney.
Even his thoughtless rhetoric about Iraq cited in the article wasn't much worse than the inexcusable pandering and rationalizing done by Hillary.
I hope Obama is elected and gives us a breath of fresh air. McCain is a poor second choice, but still way ahead of Dubya.
"Gorsegrower August 18th, 2008 8:05 pm
I want some interviewer to ask McCain "What's a wet start on an A-4?"
And that aint no idle question, look up USS Forestall.
McShame's military experience is as a prisoner, not a leader. Wesley Clark got it right, getting shot down and captured(actually rescued by the N VietNamese) isn't much of a qualification for being the pResident.
But it's all moot anyway, at the RNC, McShame will shock everyone by stepping aside (for health reasons, the cancer that's eating his brain...) and be replaced by a Romney/Huckabee ticket.
You heard it here first!
Fear one naught one (revised)
Fear who?
The one?
The naught one?
Osama Obama .....
Putin Rasputin
pope Ratsinger & President Hu
Olmert Ahmadinejad
The Talliban The ghost of Sadaam or....
geriatric senetor McCain
a red rapture McPuppet
a homo not errectus?
or... McBain
well.......
Barak 'the blessed' goes with Obama
while lightning
goes more with McCain
I'd sooner the blessing
over the bolt
for past policy smites
could become us,
the smote
The 'Audacity of Hope'....
seems rather odd... though
when it's brave to hope
and...
I ain't prayin poke for rapture
I dare ya to have a little hope!
just like the blessing without the bolt
but hey....
what will it take to get truly smote?
to be the one naught one
the red rapture button one
fear one...naught one
digital bliss and guidance
like random one naughts
corporate non entity one naughts
invisible hand profit one naughts
line up with rapture prophet one naughts
for bottom lines and deliverance
go hand in hand
like depleted U in the holy land so...
higher tech multiples of
'fat boy' and 'little man'
can bring the promise
of the one naught one
fear 'one naught one'
JESUS OF JONESBORO and others... if ours was not a pro-war nation the likes of McCain would NEVER qualify under any remote banner of "hero."
THOMAS MORE: You so often confuse your past military conditioning for patriotism. McCain deserves NO respect. Any who have seen the suffering up close ought to be that much more cautious about reproducing such sickening results. Istead, whether it's a deficit of intelligence and/or post traumatic stress disorder, McCain has earned his bonafides as the evident lapdog loyal to the military industrial complex, that deadly force that will guarantee the death and dismemberment of how many more members of our human family?
RUSS: Good point
CV: I agree with your prophetic words... McCain is on puppet strings, can't remember what he says, is NOT all there... the VP will be THE one.
The Presumptive Democrat fails at a number of turns to respond logically to McCain's call for off-shore drilling. Didn't someone of sense and authority state recently that off-shore drilling is a ten year project, that we do not have enough refineries to raise a drop anyway, and that our major objective should be to get away from carbon fuels altogether? Don't they listen to each other and hear?