The Candidate We Still Don't Know
AS I went on vacation at the end of July, Barack Obama was leading John McCain by three to four percentage points in national polls. When I returned last week he still was. But lo and behold, a whole new plot twist had rolled off the bloviation assembly line in those intervening two weeks: Obama had lost the election!
The poor guy should be winning in a landslide against the despised party of Bush-Cheney, and he's not. He should be passing the 50 percent mark in polls, and he's not. He's been done in by that ad with Britney and Paris and by a new international crisis that allows McCain to again flex his Manchurian Candidate military cred. Let the neocons identify a new battleground for igniting World War III, whether Baghdad or Tehran or Moscow, and McCain gets with the program as if Angela Lansbury has just dealt him the Queen of Hearts.
Obama has also been defeated by racism (again). He can't connect and "close the deal" with ordinary Americans too doltish to comprehend a multicultural biography that includes what Cokie Roberts of ABC News has damned as the "foreign, exotic place" of Hawaii. As The Economist sums up the received wisdom, "lunch-pail Ohio Democrats" find Obama's ideas of change "airy-fairy" and are all asking, "Who on earth is this guy?"
It seems almost churlish to look at some actual facts. No presidential candidate was breaking the 50 percent mark in mid-August polls in 2004 or 2000. Obama's average lead of three to four points is marginally larger than both John Kerry's and Al Gore's leads then (each was winning by one point in Gallup surveys). Obama is also ahead of Ronald Reagan in mid-August 1980 (40 percent to Jimmy Carter's 46). At Pollster.com, which aggregates polls and gauges the electoral count, Obama as of Friday stood at 284 electoral votes, McCain at 169. That means McCain could win all 85 electoral votes in current toss-up states and still lose the election.
Yet surely, we keep hearing, Obama should be running away with the thing. Even Michael Dukakis was beating the first George Bush by 17 percentage points in the summer of 1988. Of course, were Obama ahead by 17 points today, the same prognosticators now fussing over his narrow lead would be predicting that the arrogant and presumptuous Obama was destined to squander that landslide on vacation and tank just like his hapless predecessor.
The truth is we have no idea what will happen in November. But for the sake of argument, let's posit that one thread of the Obama-is-doomed scenario is right: His lead should be huge in a year when the G.O.P. is in such disrepute that at least eight of the party's own senatorial incumbents are skipping their own convention, the fail-safe way to avoid being caught near the Larry Craig Memorial Men's Room at the Twin Cities airport.
So why isn't Obama romping? The obvious answer - and both the excessively genteel Obama campaign and a too-compliant press bear responsibility for it - is that the public doesn't know who on earth John McCain is. The most revealing poll this month by far is the Pew Research Center survey finding that 48 percent of Americans feel they're "hearing too much" about Obama. Pew found that only 26 percent feel that way about McCain, and that nearly 4 in 10 Americans feel they hear too little about him. It's past time for that pressing educational need to be met.
What is widely known is the skin-deep, out-of-date McCain image. As this fairy tale has it, the hero who survived the Hanoi Hilton has stood up as rebelliously in Washington as he did to his Vietnamese captors. He strenuously opposed the execution of the Iraq war; he slammed the president's response to Katrina; he fought the "agents of intolerance" of the religious right; he crusaded against the G.O.P. House leader Tom DeLay, the criminal lobbyist Jack Abramoff and their coterie of influence-peddlers.
With the exception of McCain's imprisonment in Vietnam, every aspect of this profile in courage is inaccurate or defunct.
McCain never called for Donald Rumsfeld to be fired and didn't start criticizing the war plan until late August 2003, nearly four months after "Mission Accomplished." By then the growing insurgency was undeniable. On the day Hurricane Katrina hit, McCain laughed it up with the oblivious president at a birthday photo-op in Arizona. McCain didn't get to New Orleans for another six months and didn't sharply express public criticism of the Bush response to the calamity until this April, when he traveled to the Gulf Coast in desperate search of election-year pageantry surrounding him with black extras.
McCain long ago embraced the right's agents of intolerance, even spending months courting the Rev. John Hagee, whose fringe views about Roman Catholics and the Holocaust were known to anyone who can use the Internet. (Once the McCain campaign discovered YouTube, it ditched Hagee.) On Monday McCain is scheduled to appear at an Atlanta fund-raiser being promoted by Ralph Reed, who is not only the former aide de camp to one of the agents of intolerance McCain once vilified (Pat Robertson) but is also the former Abramoff acolyte showcased in McCain's own Senate investigation of Indian casino lobbying.
Though the McCain campaign announced a new no-lobbyists policy three months after The Washington Post's February report that lobbyists were "essentially running" the whole operation, the fact remains that McCain's top officials and fund-raisers have past financial ties to nearly every domestic and foreign flashpoint, from Fannie Mae to Blackwater to Ahmad Chalabi to the government of Georgia. No sooner does McCain flip-flop on oil drilling than a bevy of Hess Oil family members and executives, not to mention a lowly Hess office manager and his wife, each give a maximum $28,500 to the Republican Party.
While reporters at The Post and The New York Times have been vetting McCain, many others give him a free pass. Their default cliché is to present him as the Old Faithful everyone already knows. They routinely salute his "independence," his "maverick image" and his "renegade reputation" - as the hackneyed script was reiterated by Karl Rove in a Wall Street Journal op-ed column last week. At Talking Points Memo, the essential blog vigilantly pursuing the McCain revelations often ignored elsewhere, Josh Marshall accurately observes that the Republican candidate is "graded on a curve."
Most Americans still don't know, as Marshall writes, that on the campaign trail "McCain frequently forgets key elements of policies, gets countries' names wrong, forgets things he's said only hours or days before and is frequently just confused." Most Americans still don't know it is precisely for this reason that the McCain campaign has now shut down the press's previously unfettered access to the candidate on the Straight Talk Express.
To appreciate the discrepancy in what we know about McCain and Obama, merely look at the coverage of the potential first ladies. We have heard too much indeed about Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis, her pay raises at the University of Chicago hospital, her statement about being "proud" of her country and the false rumor of a video of her ranting about "whitey." But we still haven't been inside Cindy McCain's tax returns, all her multiple homes or private plane. The Los Angeles Times reported in June that Hensley & Company, the enormous beer distributorship she controls, "lobbies regulatory agencies on alcohol issues that involve public health and safety," in opposition to groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving. The McCain campaign told The Times that Mrs. McCain's future role in her beer empire won't be revealed before the election.
Some of those who know McCain best - Republicans - are tougher on him than the press is. Rita Hauser, who was a Bush financial chairwoman in New York in 2000 and served on the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board in the administration's first term, joined other players in the G.O.P. establishment in forming Republicans for Obama last week. Why? The leadership qualities she admires in Obama - temperament, sustained judgment, the ability to play well with others - are missing in McCain. "He doesn't listen carefully to people and make reasoned judgments," Hauser told me. "If John says ‘I'm going with so and so,' you can't count on that the next morning," she complained, adding, "That's not the man we want for president."
McCain has even prompted alarms from the right's own favorite hit man du jour: Jerome Corsi, who Swift-boated John Kerry as co-author of "Unfit to Command" in 2004 and who is trying to do the same to Obama in his newly minted best seller, "The Obama Nation."
Corsi's writings have been repeatedly promoted by Sean Hannity on Fox News; Corsi's publisher, Mary Matalin, has praised her author's "scholarship." If Republican warriors like Hannity and Matalin think so highly of Corsi's research into Obama, then perhaps we should take seriously Corsi's scholarship about McCain. In recent articles at worldnetdaily.com, Corsi has claimed (among other charges) that the McCain campaign received "strong" financial support from a "group tied to Al Qaeda" and that "McCain's personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona."
As everyone says, polls are meaningless in the summers of election years. Especially this year, when there's one candidate whose real story has yet to be fully told.
Frank Rich is a columnist for The New York Times.
© 2008 The New York Times
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Show All"Obama or McCain" is a Hobson's choice. If you want change, vote for change.
And, if you support Cynthia McKinney or Nader, take out your checkbook and write a check, even if it's only $5. They're running on empty because their campaigns aren't being financed by corporate money, and the mainstream media (and most of the alternative media as well) have frozen them out.
John M. Wages, Jr.
www.VoteJohnWages.com
US House Candidate, MS-01
I hope you are correct ~Jlover~.
"i don't care if obama wins by 51% to 49% a win is a "
Thats the problem, as of the moment I don't see him winning. But lets see in November. Time is growing short.
if obama wins by 51% to 49% a win is a win . . .
Right. Expect another stolen election and expect the Dims to accept it after a period of mild inquiry.
thomas more.....the republicans are overjoyed...pleaseeeee! man,they are running scared...look what happened in the 3 special elections in REPUBLICAN STROGHOLDS ...misissippi thomas ? and you still don't understand where i'm coming from...the republicans have to put on a brave face...THEY KNOW THEY ARE IN TROUBLE ! the republicans can try to spin and divert all they want..... .. i don't care if obama wins by 51% to 49% a win is a win....after everything is said and done....this election will be about the economy,stupid...another war would kill the republicans,they know it.....i gotta go...see ya in november thomas more...IT'S A NEW DAY !!!!!
jlover August 18th, 2008 6:24 pm
Geeezzzeeee....that wasn't a vote McCain post. This is Obamas election to lose. McCain can't win it. I wouldn't vote for Amnesty John under any circumstances. He sold all of us out to big business with his support for their plan on illiegal immigrastion. He would sell the American worker down the river and support oppression, child labor and slave wages.....no McCain voter here.
The Republicans I would say are anything but scared right now, they are overjoyed if anything. Obama should be running ahead of McCain by a mile, but he's not.
And I do believe most of the reason are the unanswered questions and his mistakes.
kempatrick 228 pm .....ok kem,you belive what you want to believe,and i'll believe what i want to believe.....it's going to be an obama victory in november ...IT'S A NEW DAY !! THEY (EXTREME RIGHT WING) CAN'T STOP THE MOVEMENT !
thomas more....so mccain is not leaving a ton of questions unanswered and has not made quite a few political mistakes,GET REAL !!! if that is how you feel,so be it....we'll see in november...IT'S A NEW DAY ! the republicans are running scared,they can't stop the movement.....and they are terrified........come on november 4th !
jlover August 18th, 2008 12:58 pm
The fact that Obama is where he is dispels that idea totally. If Obama loses it won't be because he is half white or half black. It will be because he is leaving a ton of questions unanswered and has made quite a few political mistakes.
Sounds like the Dims are taking Michael Moore's suggestions to heart -- of course these are the things Obama can be expected to do
1. Keep saying nice things about McCain.
If you want to help elect McCain, keep blessing him as if he were the white knight who accidentally hopped on the wrong horse. Keep reminding a country at war that he, and he alone, is a war hero. That he's been "good on global warming" and campaign finance. Say that enough, and you know what happens? People start to believe it! You've sold them on the idea that McCain isn't a bad egg, and they do not hear the rest of what you have to say: "But John McCain is four more years of George W. Bush."
Don't remind people that McCain wants to help the oil companies even more than Bush did. Don't bring up that he wants to outlaw abortion. Back away from painting him as the guy who thinks it's a good idea to stay in Iraq until pigs fly. That way, if you keep praising him, you can send a mixed message to the less informed, who are simply not going to figure it out. When they walk into a voting booth, they will see two names on the ballot:
☠BARACK OBAMA
☠WAR HERO
Trust me, this ain't Sweden you're living in. War Hero wins every time.
2. Pick a running mate who is a conservative white guy or a general or a Republican.
Yes, it will seem like smart politics at first. Shore up Obama's lack of military experience with a hawk. Be true to Obama's message that he'll be a president for everybody by having him run with a Republican. Make a pitch to the purple states of Virginia and Indiana by putting one of their own on the ticket. Or make the red state of Ohio happy by handing the vice presidential slot to its governor. Just so long as Obama's running mate screams "same old, same old," making it harder for him to attract the new voters he needs to win.
There is nothing wrong with picking someone who can help him win a swing state or someone who has more experience than he does in certain areas. But when I hear pundits say things like, "He has to pick a Catholic," well, John Kerry was a total Catholic, and the Catholic vote went to Mr. W. I mean, here's one of the largest groups in the country — 66 million Catholics — and they/we have only allowed one Catholic to be president in 219 years. You would think they would have been flocking to Kerry in 2004. THAT IS NOT THE WAY PEOPLE THINK. IT IS THE WAY PUNDITS THINK. Keep listening to them and you can help elect John McCain the next President of the United States.
3. Keep writing speeches for Obama that make him sound like a hawk.
Here's what Obama said in front of the American-Israeli lobbying group the day after the final primaries:
"The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat."
And: "Let there be no doubt — I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally Israel. Sometimes there are no alternatives to confrontation."
Sounds like a speech McCain would give. Sounds like he's ready to invade Iran. Obama staked out an even worse position for the Palestinians vis-Ã -vis Jerusalem than the one held by George W. Bush. Keep that up, and more and more supporters will be less and less enthused. He also says he wants to send more troops to Afghanistan. The implied message of all of this is that the Republican plan is a good plan. So why would voters want to elect the candidate imitating the Republican when they can get the real thing?
4. Forget that this was a historic year for women.
Obama should be making a speech about gender like the brilliant one he gave on race back in March. Millions of people, especially women, had high hopes for the candidacy of Hillary Clinton. Attention must be paid. And you don't pay attention to it by having your advisers run your wife through the makeover machine, trying to soften her up and pipe her down. Michelle Obama has been one of the most refreshing things about this election year. But within weeks of the end of the primary season, the handlers stepped in to deal with the "Michelle problem."
What problem? She speaks her mind? She wears what she wants? Her biggest sin, according to the punditocracy, was to say that, as a black woman, this may be the first time in her adult life she's been really proud of her country. Shock! Surprise! Outrage! But not from any of the black women I know.
You have to be white and stupid to not know what she was really saying. If you don't understand, let me ask you this: Have you been proud of what this country has been doing in the past few years? Are you proud your neighbors had their house taken from them? Are you proud to be sending a good chunk of your paycheck to the oil companies so they can post record profits? Are you proud to know your vice president outed one of our spies and put her life and the lives of others at risk?
That's all she was saying — what we are all feeling.
Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton both lost the white-male vote but won the White House. They did so by winning the black, Hispanic and female vote. That HAS to be Obama's strategy to win. Otherwise, Cindy McCain will be our new First Lady.
5. Show up to a gunfight with a peashooter.
Convince yourself that the Republicans are just going to roll over and play dead because there is simply no life left in their party. Convince yourself this one is in the bag! Convince yourself that if you play by the rules, the Republicans will too.
And when McCain and his people roll out their nuclear arsenal on you, just go all sweet and sensitive and logical. Believe that the truth shall prevail, that good people will see what the Republicans are up to. As they smear you, your family, your religious beliefs — cower, back down, go on the defensive.
If they say you should quit your church, quit your church! If they explode over your speaking the truth about the anger and despair of the white working class, take it all back! If they ask you to stand on your head and do the hokeypokey, snap to it and do it with a smile on your face — and don't forget to apologize for not doing the hokeypokey earlier; you meant no disrespect, and please don't take it as any indication that you do not love your country, your flag and your Christian God.
Do all of that and then listen for that sound — the sound of your supporters shuffling away in silence. They'll stop showing up at campaign headquarters. They'll say they're too busy to go on another door-to-door literature drop. On Election Day, they'll do their duty and vote, but they will not be up at 6 a.m. driving around the city's neighborhoods, picking up strangers who need a ride to the polls.
And on the way to the polls, some of them might just come to a stoplight, turn around and go home. Maybe they'll pick up a six-pack on the way. Maybe there's a new episode of Deal or No Deal on tonight. That would be nice. The girls are pretty, especially the blonde in the third row. Wait, they're all blond. No, not that one — THAT one! Oh yes, I see her. She is pretty. But the Man in the Booth has picked up the phone! He's calling down to you. Deal? Or no deal? No deal! No deal! Don't do it! Hey, I'm outta beer! Why didn't I pick up a case? Now I gotta spend eight bucks on gas to go buy more beer! Aaaaarrrggggghhhhhh!!!! HOWIE MANDEL ISN'T WEARING A FLAG PIN!! U-S-A! U-S-A!
6. Denounce me!
Obama, at some point, might be asked this question: "Michael Moore has endorsed you. But he recently said (fill in the blank with some outrageously offensive line taken out of context). Will you still accept his endorsement, or do you denounce him?"
And he better denounce me, or they will tear him to shreds. He had better back away not only from me but from anyone and everyone who veers a bit too far to the left of where his advisers have told him is the sweet spot for all those red-state voters. I won't take it personally. After all, I'm not the guy who married him or baptized his kids. I'm just the idiot who went to the same terrorist, Muslim school of flag-pin desecrators he went to.
I remember poor John Kerry not even being able to admit, when asked by Larry King, if he had seen Fahrenheit 9/11. "No," he said, "I haven't. . . . I don't plan to, right now." But he had indeed seen it. I sat there watching him say this, and I just felt sorry for him and for the election he was about to lose.
We can't take four more years of this madness, Barack. We need you to be a candidate who will fight back every time they attack you. Actually, don't even wait till you have to fight back. Fight first! Show some vision and courage and smoke them out. Keep asking why these lobbyists are McCain's best friends. Let's finally have a Democrat who's got the balls to fire first.
So Barack, by denouncing me, you can help McCain get elected. Because when you denounce me, it's not really me you're distancing yourself from — it's the millions upon millions of people who feel the same way about things as I do. And many of them are the kind of crazy voters who have no problem voting for a Nader just to prove a point.
Elections have been lost by just 537 votes. I don't want that to happen to you.
I don't understand...if the two parties are both part of the same front-structure for fascism, which is entirely evident to anyone looking, why the continued discussion of candidates? The only facts are voting records, which can be consulted...the rest is just air moving around...feels like time to focus on the uninhabited jails and mobile microwaves and tasers large enough to fry crowds...Google Earth should scare you, as should HAARP, among many other things...the noose is tightening, and you're looking at the dazzling fob they're swinging before you to capture your attention in just this very way...look away from the fob, and beware the noose...hard to believe the same people are behind both?
I don't believe what I posted is nonsense at all ~Jlover~, it's how I saw it when Obama was running against Hillary. That's my opinion and I'm far from being alone there.
I could easily say your opinion is nonsense, since we obviously have a diverse opinion. One of us is either not correct, or playing race cards is a fact with both factions. So whom is actually posting nonsense here about that sorry ass issue? ___ LOL.
I firmly believe Obama's group has done it more often, and they had no reason to do so, except to attempt to make others appear to be racist and stir up the pot and kettle.
that's nonsense kempatrick....the only thing the obama campagin is doing ...is to let the people know that the republicans are going to use OBAMA'S RACE AGAINST HIM.....see,obama is winning on some issues that the republicans usually win on...ie iraq war,(iraq prime minsiter agreed with obama on withdraw date,that is why mccain jumped al over the russis-georgia conflict)gas prices,(that is way mccain jumped on the drill here drill now bandwagon,they are talking about drilling,they know drilling won't make a bit of difference because americans will not get the oil all by it itself,it will be sold all over the world )not gas prices) campaign funds,(obama did not take public financing)mccain really does not have any issues,that is why they try to attack obama's character and relative inexperience...the newcomer has beating mccain on foreign policy affairs over and over again,and the repubs can't stand it.... it's just childish jealousy.....it's always the one who talks tough,turns out to be the biggest pussy on the block (mccain)
It already is ugly. In my opinion, the Obama campaign staff has played the race card far more than anyone else has and has accused others of doing that with little or no justification.
another thing....MCCAIN is the candidate that america really does not know,even after 26 years in washington...the right-wing dominated media does not want you to know the real mccain...that is way they say the his military record should be off limits........because it is a mess....(what about the keating 5, ties to lobbyists,him cheating on his wife,etc )
the real reason why obama does not have a bigger lead over mccain is.........drum roll......WHITE AMERICA CANNOT FULLY ACCEPT THAT A BLACK MAN CAN BE PRESIDENT....even the clintons can't accept the fact that he is the nominee fair and square...so by late september and into october,the maccain campaign will begin using "RACE" to try to defeat obama...especially if obama is still ahead in the polls by 3 to 7 points...it's gonna be ugly....
Is there anyquestion that Obama is an opportunistic liar of the first degree? Why should he keep any of his promises (lies) when it doesn't matter, and people would vote for him anyways because the other guy is worse? Vote for a liar and you will be but a slave of liars. If the voter has no principles in who he/she votes for, then don't expect your candidate would have any principles.
MiMiCcS:
Please give your sources for your statement that "The Audacity of Hope" was ghost written.
MiMiCcS August 17th, 2008 7:28 pm
Pretty good post. I agree with most of it, but of course have a much higher opinion of the electorate than you do.
Ostrogoth August 17th, 2008 1:18 pm
Great post! The truth.
KEM PATRICK August 17th, 2008 2:13 pm
Depressing is right. But we have shaken it off before and we will again if we can shake off the radicals of both sides.
Its still Obama that no one knows.
One other thing on how Obama can win. If it is not too late to do so, Obama's campaign could not only get the VP selected but part if not all of Obama's cabinet, in place by the convention. Add in a few generals, be sure Gore and Kerry and Hillary (vowing no more stolen elections, subliminally if it cannot be said directly) are on that stage, and get them all on one stage. (If it was me, I'd have Edwards on that stage too, not as part of an Obama government, but on the stage with the others, out of respect for him and those who voted for him. Have him appear, make a rousing few minutes speech on the issues and in support of Obama and then disappear again. The scandal would only damage the Democrats if they chose him to be part of the government; if he just speaks briefly it is only positive and no downside. As I see it.)
The message: this is not a vote for one man but a vote for an incoming administration, a team, a government in place ready to start to work on day one. This would have two strategic or subliminal messages: first, it would defuse the personal attacks on Obama since it is an incoming administration larger than Obama. Second, it defuses the lack of experience objection, since Team Obama on the stage would visually show plenty of experience. People would have confidence that the country would be in better hands than a loose-cannon McCain too closely tied to Bush-Cheney.
At the convention the visuals could emphasize the heavyweights who will become part of an Obama administration as Obama introduced them to America one after the other and they each give rapid-fire five-minute hard-hitting policy prescriptions and rousing attacks on Bush-Cheney's past eight years. At every campaign appearance Obama could have standing and sharing the stage with him members of that team. Obama giving the vision and the inspiration, the team members giving specifics and policy, all within a context of relentless attacks on the Bush-Cheney White House record of which McCain should become seen as an almost irrelevant designated caretaker-successor (would be the image). In the debates Obama could speak for the team, "we", versus McCain the aging loose cannon speaking of "I". Obama may have a different skin color than white Americans are used to voting for, but Team Obama would defuse the (unspoken) racist negatives by showing a representative government of multiple colors and hues, not just Obama alone. The Rush Limbaugh et al right-wing attacks on Obama the person, though they would of course continue, would basically fall flat in this scenario, having little effect beyond talking to themselves, since the election would come to be no longer about a referendum on Obama the person versus McCain the person, a celebrity beauty contest as is the way presidential elections are currently, but a choice between competing teams and the TEAM'S credibility, experience, competence, policies, and vision. A competent team backing up Obama who is able to put dreams into words would be a powerful combination.
If McCain had not chosen his team by the debates, Obama could score points against McCain on that. "Here, we are telling America, showing America, what you'll be getting. With McCain, its trust in one man, a government sight unseen (until after you vote for him). You don't know who he will pick." If the McCain campaign reciprocated by also becoming a team rather than the Wild West lone gunslinger which is McCain's current romanticized appeal, this would (a) undercut the one strength of McCain (his perceived lone ranger-like independence) and (b) set up his designated team for comparison with Obama's team. (If Obama chose well and chose first, Obama would win this comparison easily. What's McCain going to do--make a total break from Bush-Cheney's people in his cabinet picks? He won't. He can't. But every time he named a figure with prior Bush-Cheney links he would only reveal further his continuity with Bush-Cheney.)
provoice- Obamas brain trust is what you are banking on? Are you kidding me?
He appointed Jason Furman to head his economic policy team. Furman is one of Wal-Mart's most prominent defenders. Furman is a disciple of Rubin, chosen to head the Brookings Institution's Hamilton Project. This is the think tank Rubin helped found to argue for reforming, rather than abandoning, the free-trade agenda. Thus convincing Bill Clinton who went back on his 1992 campaign promises on NAFTA revisions.
Obama chose as his chief economic adviser Austan Goolsbee, a University of Chicago economist. His primary solution, however, is "more education".
Remember Goolsbee's February meeting with Canadian consulate officials. They left with the distinct impression that they had been instructed not to take Obama's anti-NAFTA campaigning seriously. Obama is just doing a replay of 1993. But in his case, he just waited until he was presumptive nominee before admitting his Free Trade admiration, this was shortly before kneeling at the AIPAC alter.
Then there Kenneth Griffin, CEO of the hedge fund Citadel Investment Group who gave the maximum allowable donation to Obama, is a poster boy for an unbalanced economy. Despite sanctions prohibiting the sale of police equipment to China, Citadel has been pouring money into China-based security companies.
Obama is for the same neo-liberal economic policies advocated by Friedman, starting with Volcker and Reagan and embraced by Bill Clinton and Greenspan. Recently 100 faculty members signed a letter stating. "The effects of the neoliberal global order that has been put in place in recent decades, strongly buttressed by the Chicago School of Economics, have by no means been unequivocally positive,..... "Many would argue that they have been negative for much of the world's population."
TLC Fed Chairman Volcker has endorsed Obama. Volcker is said to have squeezed inflation out of the economy with high interest rates. But the inflation was due to high oil prices and money being created to loan to 3rd world nations. He could not have wrecked the economy any better than a wrecking ball could demolish a brick building. Infrastructure spending and capital investment in power plants and refineries ground to a halt, and manufacturing accelerated the exodus to Asia that had begun in the 70's. Volcker led manufacturing out of the US much as Moses led the Jews out of Egypt.
Volcker's shock therapy, began in October 1979, lasted until August 1982, which was when I graduated and had to go so far west for a job I ended up in in the Far East. Interest rates went to double digits. The US and world economies had a monster recession, the worst since World War II. The prime rate reached 21.5%, compared to an average of 7.6% for the fourteen previous years. Official US unemployment peaked at 11%, while unofficially when those who simply had given up seeking work were counted, it was far higher.
The high interest rates led to wage inflation which fueled more inflation, caused 3rd world nations to default on loans which the Fed was given the authority to monetize (create money to bail out the banks who loaned it), and led to a recession, and the end of inflation, made possible due to lower oil prices. Meanwhile, other laws and decisions made during Volckers tenure led to the S&L crisis, which was also caused in part by the high interest rates, and which required a huge bail out.
On the foreign policy front we have TLC Brzezinski.
With geniuses like these, who needs enemies
Frank Rick wrote: "a too-compliant press"
By that he must mean the corporate-government propaganda machine that presents everything as a horserace between personalities without going into historical facts or anything else of substance concerning the issues.
"a too-compliant press"..
I think that's an understatement, especially since the N.Y. Times would not have provided the blue links to the information and references regarding the facts presented in this story, which give it some context.
The press, at this point (liberal or conservative), is only a means to spread propaganda, or help advertizers reach their targeted market. The ideas in any story are secondary to this.
If the press was doing it's job, All Americans would understand that George W. Bush & Dick Cheney are criminals rather than patriots. Why should we expect the media to treat John McCain any differently?
The neocons and Bush White House have not done all that they have done these past seven years only to allow a fair election to remove them from power. McCain, while not personally fascist at heart, is surrounded by those whose dark hearts do beat with a lust for fascism, and is a stalking horse for what will be in effect a Bush/Cheney III administration, with many of the same key people in continuity. After becoming elected, McCain's purpose will have been served and he will likely become expendable and no longer needed, particularly if Jeb Bush is VP. The game plan is not for Obama to get in and ... whatever. The game plan is for the Republicans to win, AGAIN, just as in 2000 (when Gore "could not" lose) and just as in 2004 (when Kerry "could not" lose). Swift-boat attacks on Obama, created war crises, and manipulation of the counting of votes ... the Rove formula for another Republican victory.
And it almost hardly matters much any more what happens with Congressional elections. It is the executive branch which is runaway THE power in America, in the world, in our known universe. It is the executive branch that controls just about everything, now. 435 Democratic victories in House races, 50 Democratic governorship victories, and 100 Democratic Senate race victories, would hardly be enough to counterbalance the weight of one Republican presidential reelection. Its the armed forces, the Special forces, the covert black ops, the unlimited executive authority, the power to go to war, the appointment of Supreme Court justices, the signing statements in which Congressional laws are regarded as suggestions for Presidential approval, the torture and secret arrests and surveillance state and propaganda apparatus . . . the Presidency is IT.
No way is the game plan to allow Obama to win an election fought fairly.
And what is the Obama campaign doing? They ran an intelligent and inspiring campaign in the primaries, and then tacked to the center, not taking off the gloves yet and fighting back as the Republicans get vicious.
Obama should at some point come out swinging with all the major Democratic Party voices also doing the same. Every day, just rip into the Bush administration for the LIES, for what has been happening these past seven years, fact-based calling to account for the LIES. McCain would be put in an impossible position. He can try to protest he did not himself do all of these things that the Bush Administration has done. But he will not denounce them like Obama can (if Obama would let it rip). The majority of the American people know the Bush Administration has been lying. Obama would be seen as a hero with this kind of message. Every day attack--one more lie exposed, "this is unacceptable, and the choice is between MORE OF THE SAME [McCain], or CHANGE". Repeat and repeat this, and Obama would be headed for a win by a landslide. The Republicans would try to frame this as blaming America. But the Obama campaign would make clear it is about "RECLAIMING AMERICA" from the Bush/Cheney Republicans who have done so much damage.
I wish left-leaning third parties and independent candidates would stick to Congressional races and state races until one or more such parties can show credibility, that is elected candidates and a caucus in Congress, at that level before attempting to mess with the Presidential electoral count. Sheehan's courageous challenge to Pelosi is to be supported because (a) in the worst case in which Sheehan did not win and the divided vote caused Pelosi's defeat to a Republican, the damage is limited to 1/435 of the House vote, which is like .0001% compared to the Presidency which has more power now than five US Congresses put together, and (b) at the Congressional Representative level there is an outside chance that upsets can happen and Sheehan could win. But on the national-Presidential level there is not even an outside chance that independent or third party candidates will win (because of the electoral college system as the constitution presently stands). As the system exists now, the only opportunity to get a progressive in is to have one win in the primaries of one of the two major parties; if that is not done, then it becomes necessarily a rational choice between better or worse of the two existential options, remembering that for hundreds of millions of the world's people, small changes in American presidential policies can have major effects. But that is our perspective (that there is a choice between the two). From the perspective of the regime in power, the game plan is more likely simply to not give up power, under cover of a claimed election victory for McCain, and McCain installing many of the same people of the present administration in what will be effectively Bush-Cheney III. In this view, the whole Democratic primaries and campaign is regarded as something of a sideshow, the trappings of democracy with no intent to allow an actual regime change.
Imagine Obama . . . and Gore, Hillary Clinton, Kennedy (if he has the energy), Kerry, Gary Hart, and hundreds more Democratic names major and minor in coordinated voices just ripping into the Bush administration for what it has done, saying "this is not acceptable", and starkly calling for change from that discredited rule. Make the issue not McCain, but Bush-Cheney, such that McCain will have to hem and haw and partly distance himself without fully repudiating Bush-Cheney. Every day attack on this, never let up, don't give the Republicans a chance to breathe. It would be an impossible position for McCain to be in. It would win the election for Obama, despite all the dark hearts and dark plans to render this not possible.
Obama has millions of young people, millions of disenfranchised, millions of Hispanics and African-Americans and women yearning to hear his voice call out Americans' better instincts. Cravenly going to the center is not going to cut it. Obama needs to just knock out Bush-Cheney in the debates (and McCain go down with them), and then be courtly toward McCain personally later after McCain is defeated.
For all of you who argue, correctly, that Obama is not progressive enough, let me ask you some questions. Are you now engaged in organizing a union or fighting directly for workers' rights and power? Are you organizing your neighborhood or city for sustainability in food and energy? Are you working to help kids get educated and integrated into the community so that they won't need to go out and kill each other?
If it true that, "Of course, 80% of Americans are brain dead or brainwashed, and 10% are in denial, so I am not optimistic that they will wake up," are you doing anything to provide real community so that we won't have to be narcotized by television?
No my friends, a real progressive is not going to get elected this year. The average American watches over four hours a day of TV, and the corporate media will not loosen its grip unless WE learn how to ORGANIZE. Bitching about the two party corporate monopoly won't change many minds. We have to TALK FACE TO FACE. with our fellow workers, neighbors, students and parishioners; listen, and help people to listen to each other; learn how to forge common goals and fight common battles. When we have learned how to organize, then and only then will an alternative politics be possible.
peaceman said -"MiMiCcS, Just for the record, Brzezinski came from Poland, not Russia. Part of his plan is to surround Russia and destroy it.
Other than that, I agree with your comments. You said it well."
By Russian war hawk I mean he wants war with Russia as part of his strategy in winning the Great Game in Euroasia
As for Audacity of Hope some have commented on. This was a ghost written book, basically a marketing tool for his coming campaign, and his brand making "Hope & Change". As a Junior Senator at the time for only 2 years, he surely would have been too busy to write his own book. Dreams From My Father was written by Obama long before. This book may best reflect his true beliefs, and if so, well, you have to read it.
it was erased again.
Thank you ~Ezeflyer~, but I'll wait to read Nancy Pelosi's book. I bet she sounds great in it. Or maybe Petraius will write one about himself, another best seller. In the meantime, I'll go by Obamma's voting record as a U.S. senator thanks.
I wont vote for McCain anyway.
McCain likes to talk about ALL of his experience... but you should consider these facts:
McCain has had 26 years to sell all of his good ideas to Congress... maybe they aren't so good... or maybe he just isn't persuasive enough to sell the ideas.
Obama's brain trust reads like "Who's Who in American Geniuses"... maybe he has some pretty good ideas all lined up.
The feeble-minded in this country bought all of the crap the Republicans have sold them for the past 15 years... and look at the mess the country is in now!
Don't let the Republican Military-Industrial Complex sell you another ineffective idiot!
KEM PATRICK August 18th, 2008 12:03 am asked:
"Who wrote it Ezeflyer?"
Obama wrote and published "The Audacity of Hope" in 2006 and it became the NYTimes #1 bestseller.
If you read it, doubts will vanish and you will feel good about voting for him.
No anti-Obama poster here has read "The Audacity of Hope".
Who wrote it Ezeflyer?
No anti-Obama poster here has read "The Audacity of Hope". If you did, you would not be one.
You naled it MIMICCS. (7:28pm)___ Well said right on.
MiMiCcS, Just for the record, Brzezinski came from Poland, not Russia. Part of his plan is to surround Russia and destroy it.
Other than that, I agree with your comments. You said it well.
RichM, KEM PATRICK, Ostragoth...excellent comments. KEM hit the bulls eye dead center. Well said.
RichM writes:
"It's that they are both parties of empire, militarism, & corporatism. It's that together, they form a united force that controls all political power, presents only a narrow range of choice to the electorate, & refuses to allow a wider range to even be recognized.
Together, they comprise a de facto tyranny — virtually the same as a one-party system,"
I agree that the two party system is messed up, but until we change it into a parliamentarian system where a smaller fringe party can join with a larger party and rule together in a coalition, we have to deal with what we have. As things stand now a vote for a green party or for Nader does nothing but split up the more progressive votes and allow the right-wingers to rule.
As messed up as it is, that's our choice come Nov.
Here's some Obama positions on various progressive issues---things that the neocons are no doubt against.
Strengthen Civil Rights Enforcement
Combat Employment Discrimination
Expand Hate Crimes Statutes
End Deceptive Voting Practices
End Racial Profiling
Reduce Crime Recidivism by Providing Ex-Offender Support
Eliminate Sentencing Disparities
Expand Use of Drug Courts
Shine the Light on Washington Lobbying
Shine the Light on Federal Contracts, Tax Breaks and Earmarks
Bring Americans Back into their Government
Free the Executive Branch from Special Interest Influence
Invest in a 21st Century Military
Build Defense Capabilities for the 21st Century
Restore the Readiness of the National Guard and Reserves
Develop Whole of Government Initiatives to Promote Security
Restore Our Alliances
Reform Contracting
Fight Global Poverty: Obama will embrace the Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme poverty around the world in half by 2015, and he will double our foreign assistance to $50 billion to achieve that goal. He will help the world's weakest states to build healthy and educated communities, reduce poverty, develop markets, and generate wealth.
Create a Green Jobs Corps: Obama will create a program to directly engage disadvantaged youth in energy efficiency opportunities to strengthen their communities, while also providing them with practical skills in this important high-growth career field.
The Status-of-Forces-Agreement
Obama believes any Status of Forces Agreement, or any strategic framework agreement, should be negotiated in the context of a broader commitment by the U.S. to begin withdrawing its troops and forswearing permanent bases. Obama also believes that any security accord must be subject to Congressional approval. It is unacceptable that the Iraqi government will present the agreement to the Iraqi parliament for approval—yet the Bush administration will not do the same with the U.S. Congress. The Bush administration must submit the agreement to Congress or allow the next administration to negotiate an agreement that has bipartisan support here at home and makes absolutely clear that the U.S. will not maintain permanent bases in Iraq.
Preventing Humanitarian Crisis
Barack Obama believes that America has both a moral obligation and a responsibility for security that demands we confront Iraq's humanitarian crisis—more than five million Iraqis are refugees or are displaced inside their own country. Obama will form an international working group to address this crisis. He will provide at least $2 billion to expand services to Iraqi refugees in neighboring countries, and ensure that Iraqis inside their own country can find sanctuary. Obama would also work with Iraqi authorities and the international community to hold the perpetrators of potential war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide accountable. He would reserve the right to intervene militarily, with our international partners, to suppress potential genocidal violence within Iraq.
FredJohnson/Rich Griffin -- Maybe even TPTB at Common Dreams have come to the realization that Nader and McKinney have no chance and therefore have decided to focus more on the race between the two candidates that CAN actually win? You know, maybe pointing out that regardless of his flaws Obama IS better than McCain? Perhaps even trying to pull Obama a little to the left as well?
You know, instead of throwing eggs at him for not being Karl Marx.
"Dumping The National Phone Directory. Electing The President of The United States."
http://www.metaphoria.org/ac4t0808.html
Frank Rich is right to ask why Obama doesn't have crushing poll numbers. The vast Democratic Party loyalists will vote for him and a smaller number of Republicans will vote for him too.
Obama's political positions, since becoming the presumptive Democratic Party presidential candidate, have stayed firmly on the right wing of the political spectrum. He has lots of appeal for Republicans. Loyalist Dems don't seem to notice the rightward shift, or they think it's just a stance for political expediency. (No, it isn't.)
Why McCain wasn't thrown in jail years ago for accepting bribes from Charles Keating and precipitating the collapse of the taxpayer-backed savings and loan industry is anyone's guess.
It seems like every presidential election, the bewildered herd mentality steps in. Pull the lever for one of the two parties. It seems like that sort of voter makes the decision, and the campaign with the most corporate funds always wins.
So, from a strict bewildered herd point of view, Obama should have an overwhelming lead by now. We'll have the Goldman Sachs agenda when he's elected.
Progressive thinkers won't vote for Obama, and shouldn't. But dumb voting prevails here. And in a dumb voting world, Obama wins.
Republicans can still win through vote fraud. Starting another war would be a failed tactic by this time, but a crisis might give McCain some fear points with the electorate. However, Obama's short list of countries to bomb looks a lot like McCain's, so it looks like a tie on the "who's the biggest warmonger" front.
Isn't it strange how you have two candidates, same policy?
I'm convinced it will be aipac, the MSM, and swift boaters that will try to defeat obama. Sucking up to aipac gained him nothing,
Just read Obamas book, Dreams from My Father, written 12 years ago. Thats one reason.
And if you think you are getting change on matters of war, this is simply wishful thinking. Obama's foreign policy is driven by Brzezinski, a Russian war hawk. Brzezinski's son, Ian Brzezinski, is current US Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for European and NATO Affairs. He is a devout backer of US missile defense policy, as well as Kosovo independence and NATO expansion into Ukraine and Georgia, as is his father. Gates BTW is a Brzezinski guy and may stay on as Obamas SOD.
On August 14, the US signed a missile defense agreement with Poland where we will place 10 interceptor missiles in Russias backyard, supposedly as defense against rogue states missiles, and everyone knows that is BS. This is like Cuba making the same agreement with Russia. Russia has threatened to use nuclear weapons against Poland to take out the sites in the event of war with the US. NATO expansion to the Balkans and former Soviet territories will make war with Russia inevitable. It's the same insanity that created WW I. These guys know their history, and thats why they do it. History repeats. They want another great war.
Democrats give us the biggest wars. Obama will have you in a war with Russia and maybe even China before his term is up. McCain might do the same of course, but at least people will see it coming and might be able to get Congress to stop it. Obama will be given a couple of blank checks to bring on change, and when people figure out they have been screwed, it will be too late.
Obama has zero credentials for being President. Has done little as Senator and has not completed a full term even. Never was governor of a state. Not a CEO. He looks pretty, money is backing him, and he can give a speech. He refuses to participitate in town hall debates with McCain, since he needs to know the questions in advance to give a good answer. He will not be a leader, he will simply be a facilitator for the elite who give him his orders.
The fact that we have 2 candidates like Obama and McCain to choose from shows the 2 party system is corrupted. Time to end the 2 party system, deregister from the Republican and Democratic parties and vote only for independents or 3rd party candidates. Boycott the Republican and Democratic parties.
Of course, 80% of Americans are brain dead or brainwashed, and 10% are in denial, so I am not optimistic that they will wake up.
Want to know more about McCain the eldest? Here is a re-blogged news piece about unrest and "regime change" in Kyrgyzstan. McCain has always been a raving militaristic maniac and if many Americans are stupid enough to vote for him,then let them fight his perpetual wars to America's everlasting damnation.
"The case of Freedom House is particularly arresting. Chaired by the former CIA director James Woolsey, Freedom House was a major sponsor of the orange revolution in Ukraine. It set up a printing press in Bishkek in November 2003, which prints 60 opposition journals. Although it is described as an "independent" press, the body that officially owns it is chaired by the bellicose Republican senator John McCain, while the former national security adviser Anthony Lake sits on the board. The US also supports opposition radio and TV." (Laughland 2005: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20531.htm)
I would strongly suggest following the link and reading the whole 2005 article from a Guardian (London) writer because it is highly relevant to the Georgia situation. The United States has its fingerprints all over this one in Georgia; no doubt about it.
madcow wrote"
"Hmmm, if the two parties are the same, and there's no difference between McCain and Obama, then why does the corporate media favor McCain? Why are they out to destroy Obama?"
madcow,
Only Fox news favors McCain and the rest of the corporate media either
neutral or favors Obama.
Obama is beholden to big Money/Business exactly like McCain and Bush.
He got much more campaign contributions from Wall St. than McCain!!
He will follw Bush policies both Domestic and foreign with minor changes
in details and procedures accompanied with a lot of empty oratory about
"CHANGE" and yes, "HOPE". There will be no CHANGE and business will be
as usual in Washington D.C.
But heh. As Obama pandered and said in the forum with the pastor. Jesus is his savior and Jesus is part of the equation in his marriage. Must be tough in those intimate moments. McCain is forgiven, so there you go. Panderers both. Run Ralph. Run!
~SATR9~ We have cool acting multi-colored cat that's a mix breed. O'bama may be part Irish. That's not exaclty a benefit, and I'll hope my wife don't see I just wrote that comment.
I understand a lot of us white folk here in the States have all kinds of blood mixes in us. I understand one of my great grand-pops was part Indian, the Genessee tribe and part African American. I don't know what tribe there, and he was part French, part English, and part stupid. I have all of those bloody traits mixed in with my other three Great grand-pops-and moms blood lines.
We humans are all the same under the skin. What causes the trouble is, when some forget they are Americans when we live here In America and some try to be what their ancestors were and group up and build imaginary boundry lines in neighborhoods and streets, fear others religious beliefs and act like they're better than others who may have a different shade of skin color or type of eyes. ___ It's called prejudice.
Satr9 that was a good one.
We have to give Obama a chance. Just think about the powers the next president will have thanks to Bush Inc.
I doubt that Obama is so altruistic as to try to give those powers back to the people they belong to, but he might use them to do all the things that a government should do for its people. I don't say he will but he MIGHT.
With McCain no such hope is possible.
Madcow - Besides every point that RichM made (above), also you have to be aware of the psychological manipulation the corporate two-parties use to keep the powerful in power/control.... forever. When Obama is criticized by flaming right wingers as being a way out liberal, it causes liberal voters to be protective and even more supportive of him. What the two parties do best is keep the myth going that Democrats are more liberal, they're the party of the people, right? In reality, their most important job is to keep voters from discovering the real anti-war candidates, the real progressive candidates. They use this manipulation to distract voters from the actual record and positions of Obama, who is not a progressive at all.
Rather than see both parties as fascist enablers, voters are led to believe that there is some basic and important difference between the two candidates. Otherwise, as madcow mistakenly pointed out, why is media so supportive of McCain. It's all tricks and manipulation.
Get smart!
Vote for a real anti-war candidate. I can recommend two: Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney.
Get off your knees and demand! for a real change.
o'bama?
he's irish too?!?
Dear Frank Rich @ New YOrk Times,
***YOu could have printed the very last sentence then ommitted all the garbage above--...summertime polls are meaningless.....and what more do we need to know about John McBush ????
****LOOK, after the last 8 years, any American who votes for any candidate with an "R" after their name is truly a sick American==are we masochists who want another 4 long, long years of pain and political corruption?? Do we want another madman sitting up there with his Neocon finger on the big red button===while all we can do is hold our breaths and listen to McCain sing another chorus of 'BOMBIRAN==BOMBIRAN==BOMBIRAN' !!! C'Mon
****We, the Public are not dumb==who do you New YOrkers think gives King George a 20% approval, and the US Senate and Congress a 9% approval rating, curently and for the past two years at least !! HOW can you put any faith in a poll then that would pretend to show John McCain ahead of Senator Obama in any proportion ???? How can you even stretch our collective imaginations to grasp that Paris and Brittany had that affect ?
****Certainly, O'bamas actions are clearly betraying the inspiring speeches he gives so well==his vote FOR FISA crimes and wiretapping; his speech before the right wing radical Zionist cabal called AIPAC; his public renouncing of a great TV speech by 4-star General Wesley Clark supporting Obama's campaign; his flip flop on possible oil drilling off the coast of Florida; his massive time concessions to the Clintonistas in Convention air time! all these purveying the SAME politics as usual and NO CHANGE AS PROMISED !! No Hope, NO Change, No Belief Just the Audacity of Sameness from the Culture of CORRUPTION.
****wHAT IS mOREOVER, BOTH Mc Cain and Obama must share that 9% Congressional approval rating Nationwide, but the record GLARES OUT that MCCain voted FOR the War and Obama voted AGAINST the War==and both still do !!!
D'ont think we need to know any more about John McCain, period !! JUst ask the Beachboys !!!
madcow August 17th, 2008 11:53 am
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The answer is: the corporate (media) would prefer that the Reps win. But the Dems will do just fine as a second choice. For them it is really win-win situation. And for the rest of it is, you know what....
Vote anybody but the two parties...
Let me rewrite this section of Rich's column:
Most Americans still don't know, as Marshall writes, that on the campaign trail "McCain frequently forgets key elements of policies, gets countries' names wrong, forgets things he's said only hours or days before and is frequently just confused."
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Most Americans frequently forget key elements of policies, get countries' names wrong, forget things they have said only hours or days before and are frequently just confused. That's why so many people identify with McCain. He's one of them. Most importantly, he's white and male, essential elements for leadership of "real" America. Negroes, most Hispanics, liberals (all tenured professors and rich Hollywood stars with limousines), pacifists, Unitarians, feminists, non-Pentagon/CIA/FBI/Coast Guard bureaucrats, and non-Republican college students aren't REAL Americans. Did I forget anyone?
"This article really bugs me - yet another cd article about the horse race/pro-Obama b.s. Where are the articles about Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney? About other progressives running for Senate, House, Governor, etc.? About how we can start to pull together (if we can, and that is a big "IF") to turn things around??"
Rich Griffin,
I keep hammering on that and get attacked by party hacks such as Daniel FUCKING David and the likes. You see, most of the so-called "progressive" blogosphere doesn't give a shit about true progressives who don't have a D next to their name. Even for the ones, that just happen to be running as Democrats, they're SOLed all the while corporate/socialconservative phonies are heavily funded. They're no different from so-called "conservatives" who are anything but conservative given that they failed on their so-called social "reforms" on god, abortion, gays, etc ... Both sides talk one thing but walk corporate when push comes to shove.
For those of you who missed it, Tom Friedman's recent op-ed exposed McCain's phony-balony alternative energy views. While a recent mcCain ad showed wind turbines spinning, in actuality McCain has missed all 8 votes this year to extend the tax incentive program for wind and solar. One time he was even in his Senate office apparently hiding. He's in the pocket of big oil and coal; just what we need.
The John McCain... we do not know.
The fact is that the discussion of John McCain, needs to take on the light of his psychological make up. He is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome... from being tortured as a prisoner of war... and The Stockholm Effect. This can be seen in his acid temper and verbal attacks he makes on those close to him( PTSS ) and through his overly friendly nature to those in opposition and potentially dominant over him (TSE).He abuses those he feels dominant over and appeases those whom he fears being dominated by. This is the John McCain we need to know... and who can guess where the switch is and how it is flipped... at 3:00AM wake up calls...
Obama and McCain, two sides of the same coin of corporatism. Cannot believe that the folks here on CD seem to have fallen right into the trap and are doing their best to support Obama, who is NOT a progressive at all. He's just young and savvy at use of the internet to gather the youth base. We are screwed whichever candidate is allowed to "win" the election in November. Both candidates intend to continue our occupation of both Iraq and Afghanistan and will certainly not remove our 600/700 military bases from countries across the globe. Go McKinney.
The horrific mess Bush has created during his two terms is so bad, that I personally do not see how any new president could ever hope to get it straightened out, be it Obama, Nader, McCain, Hillary, Paul, whomever.
The United States is teetering on the edge of a depression, the Iraq war and occupation is breaking the bank, it already has in fact. The costs of everything has gone sky high, our infastructures across the country are in dire need of replacement and repairs and there isno money for that. all of the viable candidates support nuclear or coal fired power in some form or other and our atmosphere is in very serious trouble.
The illegal immigtration sitation is totally out of control, our borders and shipping ports are not secure, our army an dnational guards units are broken, according to many credible militay generals. We now import 40 to 50% of our food and we don't manufacture much of anything except military hardware and ammunition anymore. The American auto industry is about ready for the history books.
The housing industy is in a shambles, our banks, many small and large are in serious trouble, the airlines are all about ready for bankruptsy with extra charges for any and everything from a glass of water to a surcharge for an emergency landing and use of the emergency exit slides. Our schools and court systems are now a damn joke and a new president is going to cure anything? ___ I don't see it.
P/S, not sure about the emergency landing surcharge. The rest is posted here in depressing articles everyday. My wife's cat is going to die soon though, there is hope.
This article really bugs me - yet another cd article about the horse race/pro-Obama b.s. Where are the articles about Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney? About other progressives running for Senate, House, Governor, etc.? About how we can start to pull together (if we can, and that is a big "IF") to turn things around??
wrensis:
"[Obama]Has told Democrats who have disagreed with him to skip the convention."
I'll go the good Senator one better--I have left the Democratic Party altogether.
RichM deftly summarizes the differences between Obama and McCain. There are stylistic nuances to Obama, while McCain only embodies the typical one-dimensionality of your standard Republican. But both are imperialists and dedicated militarists, so the current US trajectory, straight into history's toilet, will be pretty much the same under either of them. At least under Obama we can say we're self-destructing under "intelligent" leadership.
John McCain voluntarily traveled to the other side of the world to invade a country that had never done anything to America except seek it's help. On October 26, 1967, McCain, an enemy combatant in an undeclared war, was personally dropping bombs on that nation for the 23rd time when his plane was shot down directly over the city of Hanoi. That's how he became a North Vietnamese prisoner.
No Vietnamese had ever committed any act of violence on U.S. soil, or, until Americans invaded their country, against any American. Yet the United States rained death and destruction from bullets, bombs and chemical agents on that small impoverished nation for 10 years. Had Criminal McCain been an enemy of the US and done such things, he would have been like one of the many prisoners sodomized and tortured to death at Abu Ghraib and other rendition sites. To deny the unrepentant McCain the well deserved label of terrorist, and war criminal would require whole new definitions for the words.
"Obama has also been defeated by racism (again). He can't connect and "close the deal" with ordinary Americans too doltish to comprehend a multicultural biography that includes what Cokie Roberts of ABC News has damned as the "foreign, exotic place" of Hawaii."
Pat Buchanan was the first to employ the euphemism "exotic" as a high falutin' substitute for the N word. Go through your thesaurus or dictionary for the myriad others waiting their turn to steamroll Obama into the ground. AMERICANS WILL NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, MAKE A BLACK MAN PRESIDENT. McCain will win the election - rigged or not - and Uncle Sam, the serial killer, will continue his rampage until our inevitable economic collapse finally puts a stop to it.
Obama since being nominated has...
Refused to vote against immunity for the telecom industry (FISA)
Agreed to offshore drilling
Reversed his stand on NAFTA
Agreed to the death penalty
Is against late term abortion for the emotional distress of the mother. Most late term abortions are when a fetus is already dead, has no brain, or is seriously malformed and will not live outside the womb. I know that would distress me.
Has reversed on seating delegates of Michigan and Florida.
Refused Public Financing
Has told Democrats who have disagreed with him to skip the convention.
What else do you need to know???
If you google any of this you will see it is fact.
Incidently I will not vote for McCain. Since I am from a state that will go Democratic I have the unique position of my vote not reallly counting so I am voting GREEN.
Giving his speech on the 48th anniversary of the MLK I have a dream speech is very ironic, since they are caging protestors far enough from the convention so they are not a disruptive force. Since I was one of the ones who marched for civil rights in the 60's I have to point out that Senator Obama would not be a Senator from Illinois if we had not been permitted to conduct peaceful protest.
If you like what Nancy Pelosi has done for the hous you are going to love Obama.
"He's been done in by that ad with Britney and Paris and by a new international crisis that allows McCain to again flex his Manchurian Candidate military cred."
"Obama has also been defeated by racism (again)."
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Don't get suckered by Frank Rich's horse-race jive talk.
Obama hasn't been done in. He did himself in by abandoning his Democratic base on the important issues. Polls show both Obama and McCain now totally out-of-touch with the voters on the issues voters care about.
Frank Rich should be condemning Obama's warmongering and sell-out to AIPAC and the MIC. But Frank is always careful never to advocate serious change of our corrupt, murderous political system. Instead he cynically, although artfully, toes the official DNC line.
Frank Rich's hollow, deceitful analysis is part of the problem, not the solution.
I think a major potential problem for Obama is that after having fored up his base with populist and progressive rhetoric during the primary, now that he has flipped so solidly to the center-right, those people who saught him out fo his populist and priogressive message will no stay away in November, or, vote elsehwere, for actual progressive and populist candiates. *hint hint*
madcow ( 11:53 am) asks, "Hmmm, if the two parties are the same, and there's no difference between McCain and Obama, then why does the corporate media favor McCain?"
- First of all, the "corporate media" is not monolithic in terms of party preference. For example, the Frank Rich article you just read comes from today's NYT, which supports Obama. Overall, Obama is leading in support from corporate America.
- Secondly, you present a false form of the argument as to what's wrong the Dem Party, & with Obama in particular. It's not (as you wrongly put it) that the 2 parties are "the same." It's that they are both parties of empire, militarism, & corporatism. It's that together, they form a united force that controls all political power, presents only a narrow range of choice to the electorate, & refuses to allow a wider range to even be recognized.
Together, they comprise a de facto tyranny -- virtually the same as a one-party system, but with an added wrinkle of deception: namely, the public is told that the minor differences between the parties amount to some sort of grand & substantial "choice." But in reality, it's only the very limited choice between one flavor of empire, militarism, & corporatism; and another slightly different flavor.
Similarly, with Obama & McCain, it's not at all, as you wrongly put it, that there is "no difference." Obviously, Obama is not a senile babbling old fool, like McCain. Rather, he is a sleek young robust militarist/corporatist, who's much more intelligent than the pathetic half-cracked McCain. Despite these differences, he will not challenge the precepts of militarism or corporatism any more than McCain would. That part of the discussion is "off the table," for both parties.
Well, Obama is loaded with flaws, but during that "mock debate" with Obama and McCain this week, when McCain was asked which three people he respected the most and would seek their advice, McCain immediately replied and said, ___"General Petraius"___ was his number one choice. That should most certainly be the best and only needed reason to never ever consider voting for McCain. Of course there are a zillion other good reasons.
Obama wrote his own books. McCain's was written by Mark Salter.
We also haven't heard much about Cindy McCain's past addiction to prescription drugs that she fraudulently procurred using money absconded from her own charity. Imagine if Michelle Obama had done this. Would FOX ever let us hear the end of it. And where is Rush (Oxycontin) Limbaugh? He hasn't had much to say about this either.
Yaayyy, change!!!
McCain is indeed unknown and is indeed a babbling idiot at times. He sold his soul on the torture vote thereby taking the shine off of his years as a POW. He contradicts himself so many times it's frightening that he is taken seriously as a candidate. But then again Bush was taken seriously and to some, like Brittany Spears he is still the one we should listen to and abide by. If the media fails us (in pointing out McCain's foibles) we may once again be doomed to years of ignorance and war. John McCain is not the man to lead America.
"AS I went on vacation at the end of July, Barack Obama was leading John McCain by three to four percentage points in national polls. When I returned last week he still was."
From what I've read Obama and McCain are tied in at least one poll. And Obama's own actions cannot be completely disregarded when considering his demise.
His vote on the FISA bill. His backtracking on his stand on Iraq. His wanting to expand the military and the war in Afghanistan to name just a few.
Lobo Gris
Hmmm, if the two parties are the same, and there's no difference between McCain and Obama, then why does the corporate media favor McCain? Why are they out to destroy Obama?
I wonder.
Obama needs to hit back with the evidence that the Republicans(captured by the extreme Right Wing faction of that party)have with malice deliberately looted the U.S. Treasury to line their own pockets and launched a perpetual war for the purpose of retaining permanent power and control of the American people. Get it?!!