Also notice how when Clinton was being impeached we got a daily barrage of his approval ratings. Even though we know Bush is one of the worst and most unpopular presidents ever, it's rare to hear about his approval ratings.

The MSM is just a propaganda organ of the PTB (powers that be). The Republicans are the deal and the Democrats are the junior party. Even though Democrats are the juniors their turn on the duopolistic tag team is coming up. The Republicans have been screwing us with Democratic consent so long I think they are tired. It's the Democrats turn.

Good grief. How much more BS news is CD gonna publish?

Another lying Democrat, why should anyone be surprised?

Not as bad as Obama, however, who lies about ending the war while voting to fund it.

Yeah, like Republicans never LIE. Read Ron Suskind's latest book if you've been in a catatonic state for the past 7+ years.

Let's just ask ourselves if maybe by voting for the good old boys we aren't seeing real change.

I come closer daily to committing my vote for a black woman for president.

Not there yet but certainly as I watch the club members joust about I am getting really leary of the promises I hear.

Tetti, tetti, tetti. Tsk, tsk. Hard to believe you'd be criticizing Democrats for sexual misadventures. You, of course must be aware of the rather long list of rather prominent Republicans who've had, shall we say, similar problems related to their sexual proclivities.

This isn't really news exactly - I mean, a large percentage of men have sex outside their primary relationships; an even larger % of men with money and power have. Boys will be boys. Frankly, I'd rather they had illicit heterosexual sex instead of invading soverign nations and tortuing and killing to get their jollies.

I liked John Edwards and feel very sorry for his wife, who has cancer. I'm not sure why it is that so many political candidates and politicans cheat on their spouses. (It seems you never hear about female candidates and politicians cheating; it's usually the men.) No excuses for this type of behavior. But remember, it's the Republicans who are always touting "traditional family values," thus setting themselves up for even closer scrutiny and chastising when they are caught in the act.

To hell with ABC news. Candidates and politicians should be allowed to have at least partly private lives. The media obsession with pecadillos is sick, and it only seems to get traction with Dems.

What about Jeff Gannon (the homosexual white house reporter and gay prostitute) who reportedly didn't have the credentials to be part of the white house press corps and on a few occasions spent the night at the white house). If the media was fair, there would have been some follow up on that one. Ditto for the alleged affair between George and Condoleeza per Wayne Madsen.

And what about the recent "apparent" suicide of the DC madam?

DC MADAM LEFT BOOK

Yeas & Neas, DC Examiner - You'll recall that D.C. Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey mentioned last year that she was mulling over a tell-all tome on her escort business and the government case that brought it down. But, following Palfrey's suicide in May, the status of the madam's memoirs is up in the air.

"She left me 150 pages," said former Palfrey attorney Blair Montgomery Sibley. "I am pulling that together with 2,700 e-mails that I have between Jeane and I to attempt a cogent narrative of the events that led up to her unfortunate demise.

"She also left me a substantial amount of recorded material that will supplement the written information," Sibley told Yeas & Nays. "We are still in the process of transcribing all of that.

Of course, many Washingtonians still wonder: Were there any famous clients of Palfrey whose names have yet to be leaked? "I cannot answer that question at this time," Sibley said. "There are reams of stuff nobody knows but me at this point in time."

Let he - or she - who is without sin cast the first stone!

If the world were to suddenly be covered with a film of truth, showing everyone alive with all their sins in glaring detail, I doubt there would be even one percent, not counting the majority of children who'd be nearly clean.

I also think it's time we got SEX out of politics again.

Oh, man, wouldn't Sibley be VERY smart to make sure a lot of people knew what he's got?

to the idiots here who accuse Republicans of also lying, that's what I've been doing here for at least a year. That's exactly my point, that they're the same.

why do you 2nd graders think that this is any kind of smart defense of Democrats, to point out that Republicans lie bigger or this is just about sex?

It's a sad day I never thought would come. Who could believe that an American politician would turn out to be a lying lecherous philanderer. Who does this guy think he is . . . Bill Clinton?

"Another lying Democrat, why should anyone be surprised?"

Oh come on. All politicians lie but if you were to add up the score, as well as, how much damage the lies have done I KNOW that the Republicans are way ahead a thousand fold!

One more time for you uptight righties, lying is bad, but lying about sex is no where near as bad as lying to start a war for corporate profit while killing thousands in the process.

All I can say about this is "who fucking cares!"

Infidelity is so prevalent in western culture that should we really be surprised when "high-profile" people have affairs? It's ridiculous. The ONLY person that has any sort of right to say anything about this is Mrs. Edwards herself. Other than that, it's nobody's business.

A nice pre-DNC Convention confession and touch ... timed to get lost in the Olympics coverage. Spitzer down ... Edwards down ... please fellas, no more surprises!

It appears that discretion is no longer the better part of valor. High-profile Democrats continue to manifest poor taste. At least JFK had Marilyn Monroe! With one exception that we know of, Bill Clinton had lousy taste. Foley and Craig would be difficult to top for sexual adventurism, but the family values folks do a fine job of forgiving the Vitter,the Newt and dozens of their most beloved, who are or should be in federal prisons for more criminal sins.

What's the next revelation and distraction?

Paris Hilton should participate in the debates. She would draw more of an audience than the two candidates will combined. Add the Jonas Bros. and Hanna Montana ... and it becomes a family-appropriate mini-series.

The girls get prettier as the politicians move up from local to state and then federal. That's life. Who cares, other than his wife and kids, as long as he isn't a pervert like Slick Willy.

John, you are a dummy.

"Oh, man, wouldn't Sibley be VERY smart to make sure a lot of people knew what he's got?"

Yes, whether he's planning disclosure or blackmail, his safety would seem to depend on just that.

No one seems to notice that this woman, Rielle Hunter, seems to have an appetite for married men who she picks up in bars. A little compassion is in order for John Edwards. Ms. Hunter is obviously a gold digger who is grabbing her 15 minutes of fame with her interview with Extra. Let's forgive John, and forget Rielle Hunter.

Remember when Dennis Kucinich called out John Edwards about his lack of character? How many more things does Kucinich need to be right about before people start listening to him?

Quote:

Fellow candidate Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (Ohio) lashed out at Edwards. "This is a serious matter, and I'm calling him on it," Kucinich said. "Whispering, trying to rig an election, then denying what's going on and making excuses. It all reflects a consistent lack of integrity."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/13/AR2007071301891.html?hpid=sec-politics

Come on, folks. Democracy is the only form of government designed for _grownups_.
If you want paternalism and wish to remain in a permanent infantile state please go live under a monarchy or a dictatorship (or vote Republican, where folks with proclivities for being told how to run their personal lives seem to have found a home and where greed and narcissism seem to be the sole virtues).
Please do not try to _impose_ it on our Constitutional pluralistic democracy. We like our liberties and our Rights.
As "grownups" we have our flaws and human weaknesses. As the French say, "to understand all is to forgive all." Or as Orwell once said, "Saints should always be judged guilty until proven innocent." I want a statesman, dammit, not a saint, in office.
If I want a saint, I'll go to church and pray for _my_ immortal soul (assuming such metaphysical entity even exists). Perhaps I'll achieve "sainthood" on my time and pray I achieve the humility not to attempt to _impose_ "sainthood" _on others_.
In a democracy, and renewed with every election, we become parents to our form of government and our representatives. We love our country, just as we love our children, and that's why we have the _absolute right_ to discipline and criticize them when they're not acting up to par as responsible adults.
If my kid embezzles or vandalizes or hurts another I will make sure he doesn't do it again. I owe my fellow citizens that much. If I catch him masturbating, I tell him to wait till everyone else is already in bed. End of story.
As Gore Vidal told us once, "politics is the art of collecting and spending money (our taxes)." As long as taxes are spent wisely and humanely by my representatives (no wars of aggression; a full social/economic infrastructure), I have no problem. If a representative wants to get his/her rocks off at the end of the day, that's between his/her spouse and his/her vows. It's a little thing the Founders left us implicit in the First, Fourth, Fifth, etc., Amendments. The _Right_ (not the "privilege") of Privacy.
I am glad CD invites commentary on this issue. Let's focus on ending this immoral war and bringing our uniformed citizens home. We are not an empire.
We are a Constitutional Republic, despite anything W/Dick/Condi, et al, say or do.

What's the difference between a politician and a diaper?
Not much,... they both have to be changed often,.... and for the same reason.

ABC News has done some lying of their own. Why are they "protecting" sources who lied to them about the origin of the anthrax?

via Glenn Greenwald:

During the last week of October, 2001, ABC News, led by Brian Ross, continuously trumpeted the claim as their top news story that government tests conducted on the anthrax -- tests conducted at Ft. Detrick -- revealed that the anthrax sent to Daschele contained the chemical additive known as bentonite. ABC News, including Peter Jennings, repeatedly claimed that the presence of bentonite in the anthrax was compelling evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks, since -- as ABC variously claimed -- bentonite "is a trademark of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's biological weapons program" and "only one country, Iraq, has used bentonite to produce biological weapons."

ABC News' claim -- which they said came at first from "three well-placed but separate sources," followed by "four well-placed and separate sources" -- was completely false from the beginning. There never was any bentonite detected in the anthrax (a fact ABC News acknowledged for the first time in 2007 only as a result of my badgering them about this issue). It's critical to note that it isn't the case that preliminary tests really did detect bentonite and then subsequent tests found there was none. No tests ever found or even suggested the presence of bentonite. The claim was just concocted from the start. It just never happened.

That means that ABC News' "four well-placed and separate sources" fed them information that was completely false -- false information that created a very significant link in the public mind between the anthrax attacks and Saddam Hussein. And look where -- according to Brian Ross' report on October 28, 2001 -- these tests were conducted:

...Those fabrications played some significant role -- I'd argue a very major role -- in propagandizing the American public to perceive of Saddam as a threat, and further, propagandized the public to believe that our country was sufficiently threatened by foreign elements that a whole series of radical policies that the neoconservatives both within and outside of the Bush administration wanted to pursue -- including an attack an Iraq and a whole array of assaults on our basic constitutional framework -- were justified and even necessary in order to survive.

ABC News already knows the answers to these questions. They know who concocted the false bentonite story and who passed it on to them with the specific intent of having them broadcast those false claims to the world, in order to link Saddam to the anthrax attacks and -- as importantly -- to conceal the real culprit(s) (apparently within the U.S. government) who were behind the attacks. And yet, unbelievably, they are keeping the story to themselves, refusing to disclose who did all of this. They're allegedly a news organization, in possession of one of the most significant news stories of the last decade, and they are concealing it from the public, even years later.

They're not protecting "sources." The people who fed them the bentonite story aren't "sources." They're fabricators and liars who purposely used ABC News to disseminate to the American public an extremely consequential and damaging falsehood. But by protecting the wrongdoers, ABC News has made itself complicit in this fraud perpetrated on the public, rather than a news organization uncovering such frauds. That is why this is one of the most extreme journalistic scandals that exists, and it deserves a lot more debate and attention than it has received thus far.

Full unedited post at:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/

Open mouth----insert.

Right Nietzsche-- It's nobody's business and he should not have commented on the matter one way or the other. Every politician who is ever asked about sexual indiscretions should turn the question around and ask the reporter to detail their own sexual history. If the reporter says they're not a public figure, the politician replies that being a public figure doesn't mean they have to give up ALL their privacy. If the reporter counters that it reflects on the politicians' suitability for office, reply "No, it doesn't." Period. There are laws against asking job applicants certain questions in interviews for good reason. Discrimination on the basis of personal habits is always wrong. Also, consider ending the interview if the reporter doesn't drop it, and don't grant them additional interviews.

Clark Kent -- "Ditto for the alleged affair between George and Condoleeza per Wayne Madsen."

This is hilarious ! Now CD is a gossip forum !! How could she even touch that prick ...

Elizabeth Edwards is supposedly booked to speak at the Democratic Convention. John is unlikely to attend. Rielle is unlikely to become First Lady. Its all good.

If the man had won the nomination, imagine our chagrin when the affair was revealed before November.

President McCain would be laughing all the way to ... uhh ... his first wife's home (he abandoned her after he got back from Vietnam and discovered that she was disfigured from a terrible auto accident). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

So, while the media was after Edwards for gettign a $400 haircut, he was actually getting some $100,000 "trim" lol

You Americans and you sexual phobias......shoot a male friend in the face, no problem...shoot some seed in a female friend...OMG!!

here is a newsflash for all of you...its not just politicians..they are just more public and under scutiny and so get caught out more...but actually ...ALL MEN AND WOMEN CHEAT!!!

It is in our human nature...humans are not natually monogomous....The ones who deny it the most are actually doing it the most....lol...you should see what you local precher is doing when not on the pulpit...

So, while the media was after Edwards for gettign a $400 haircut, he was actually getting some $100,000 "trim" lol

You Americans and your sexual phobias......shoot a male friend in the face, no problem...shoot some seed in a female friend...OMG!!

here is a newsflash for all of you...its not just politicians..they are just more public and under scutiny and so get caught out more...but actually ...ALL MEN AND WOMEN CHEAT!!!

It is in our human nature...humans are not natually monogomous....The ones who deny it the most are actually doing it the most....lol...you should see what you local precher is doing when not on the pulpit...

I think the main point is that he lied, not that he cheated. I'm sick and tired of politicians lying to me. I think Democrats lie just as much as the Republicans over all, but there are some real stinkers in both camps. You can argue that it is an insignificant thing to lie about, but I believe you get better at lying and more willing to do so after every time you do it. My respect for him (which was never that great anyway) has certainly diminished. I'm glad he didn't win the nomination - he'd be over now.

Dara Parsavand

George and Condi? Really? Let's see ABC News cover that one.

All across America and beyond, people are discovering that husbands and wives have been having affairs, cheating, creating babies. The supposed faithful guy does it. The senator does it. The preacher does it. The prof does it with his/her students. The gynecologist does it.

What's next, oh slightly naive readers? Senators getting bagged in gay sex stings? Pedophile priests and musicians?

You know what? We need to separate the job from the genitals. Progressive politics is too important to mix with cheap tabloid enjoyment. Couldn't we get an actor to simulate these scandals for our own secret fantasy lusts? I mean, I love the official Republican sex fantasy of Paris Hilton, Brittany and stud Senator Obama in a three-way, but it's bigoted and hurtful to all black men to label the entire race as out-of-control sex machines. I admit that I'd pay scarce money to see Paris, Brittany and McCain in a three-way.

Wasn't it ABC news that killed a story they were to run the same evening about Dick Cheney's name and number being in the DC Madam's book? Look it up - it's out there. I'm saddened to read this - very sorry - but can I judge him or any others? No way. Sex is complicated. The need for human touch is huge. I believe he loves his wife and family.

C'mon CD - we do not need this type of crap here. Leave this for the breathless MSM anchors.
John Edwards is a man - most men cheat at least once on their wives. Does anybody but Elizabeth care???

"His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience."

If you donated to Edwards' campaign, wouldn't you like to know that the money was spent on getting the best people to help him get the nomination (maybe the office)? Instead, it seems that a person unfit to help him do this received $100K of your (or some corporation's) money.

I would demand that he refund my campaign contribution because knowingly hiring someone who is unqualified to do the job is tantamount to deceiptfully seeking your money. (i.e. if you hire someone who in all likelihood can't help you get the nomination, you weren't really serious about it in the first place. If you're not really serious, why solicit contributions?).

...Of course, if her payment came from corporate contributions, then all of what I wrote is moot.

Three words will tell you why we don't need a Godfearing, clean living president: George Walker Bush.

You know what leachery got America?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt

A president that passed meaningful labor laws, helped put America back to work, Social Security, 40 hour work week, FDIC, end of prohibition, and gave federal protections to unions.

Hey I'm trying to put off apocalypse for as long as possible and the last thing I need is a religiously committed president.

Who cares?

Aphrodite makes all men act foolishly - for the general amusement and occasional issue.

PubliclyFunded...
[commenting on McCain's first wife:] "he abandoned her after he got back from Vietnam and discovered that she was disfigured from a terrible auto accident"

...and overweight.

Civil behaviour wrote:

Let's just ask ourselves if maybe by voting for the good old boys we aren't seeing real change.

I come closer daily to committing my vote for a black woman for president.
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Like Condi Rice????

What we'll get is hours and hours of coverage on this "salubrious" story and the advertisers and corporate media managers can bolster their bottom lines whilst the real news gets buried.

Wow, it is discouraging to learn that you're just another "DC fucker" Mr. Edwards. And you endorsed Obama too.

I suppose with your bucks, you could get a lot of bangs.

If you pay $800 for a haircut, what do you pay for a BJ?

"You know what? We need to separate the job from the genitals." The job IS the genitals!

While we are exposing politicians for having extramerital affairs, has anyone looked at John McCain's marriage background? I am not at all defending Edwards, but if we are examining the background of political candidates running for the White House why not include McCain's disgusting affair. Apparently, after he found out his first wife was horribly disfigured in a car accident, while still married to her, he had sexual intercourse with his current wife, Cindy, the millionaire beer distribution company heiress. He promptly divorced his first wife, Carol, which deeply split the McCain family (some of his children from his first marriage still bitterly resent him). Whenever John McCain talks about family values, I hope someone will bring this up. McCain too is a piece of shit. I have no respect for the man.

More details please: we need the size of the offenders' members. Where did they meet? How long did each tryst last? What pet names do these sexual players have for one another? How many orgasms each per episode? Did she multiple multiple times? Did he request that she augment her breasts? Did she influence his haircut or complain about loss of erectile capability during the stress of the campaign? Did they trim their pubic private parts into hearts or shave them completely?

How can I be expected to have an opinion on these politicians' foreign foreplay policy stances if I do not know more about their sexual exploits and proclivities and parts? Why is this important? How much lying about sexual acts is normal? Does anyone care? Does anyone have sex anymore in Washington or are they all too worried about getting caught or mussing their naughty parts? Big frigging deal. How much lying consigns the liar to their own version of sex acts hell? Which sex act is Republican, which oral technique is Democrat... and where are the stains to prove it?!!

We must know! It is imperative in a democratic nation that the habeas corporaleas of the moans and sighs of our leaders post orgasmic bliss and guilt be examined with a righteous lecher's glee. Make some money on this one mainstream media. Talk about all the ifs, ands and the big hairy butts.

When this story first broke my initial thoughts were about his wife and children. I then thought about how selfish and inconsiderate this guy was, in that all he could think about was running for president and "F" the fact that his wife was diagnosed with "terminal cancer"! His faithful wife followed this bum all over America,forgoing her treatment, speaking on his behalf and trying to help him in his blind ambition to become president and this is the reward she received in return. Now he sheepishly and half heartily admits to having a liaison but denies being the father of the child. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me and I have already been fooled once!!!

I agree, who the hell cares about some politicians marital infidelity? I didn't care when Clinton did it either. Can't we just get past America's hang up with sex in ALL it's various forms? Sheesh!