I saw your interview on Jon Stewart, and then ordered a copy of the book. Someone please explain to me why is it that there so much information about this corrupt self-serving administration and nothing is done. The whole damn gang deserve prison time, that is only retirement they have earned. It may not clean-up what they have done but it sure is the only form of justice available to us. High crimes and Treason - you bet, and not before this stacked deck of Justices on the Supreme Court.
After reading the comments section here I see Iam not the only one that feels that way. If Bush and Cheny and their gang of merry men (don't exclude Rice) get away with this then it will happen again and again.

Hang 'em all - we sure don't need or want him back in Texas.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, the U.S. corporate oligarchy has lowered an iron curtain across America, effectively blocking almost all reporting of the forged Habbush letter revealed in Ron Suskind's new book, "The Way of the World."

Except for NBC's initial report on this book and MSNBC's follow-up report shortly thereafter, I have searched the newspapers and televised newscasts diligently for other reports on this historic expose, but I have found nothing. Not a paragraph, not a sentence, not a word of reference to "The Way of the World" and the blockbuster revelation it contains, with the exception of an interview with Suskind on PBS radio.

Obviously, the word has gone out from the power elite who own America's media and fund the election campaigns of both political parties. Silence reigns. America's empty newspapers remain empty from front page to backpage of any mention of this major story. The leaders of the Democratic Party have said nothing about it. Their lips are sealed. The government hurls accusations at Suskind. And the public remains blissfully ignorant and unconcerned about the demise of democracy in America.

We live in a conquered country. A country that was conquered from within by the mega-millionaires of finance and industry who are unrelenting in their pursuit of economic and political dominance worldwide. The silence of the media and the politicans says it all.

The Ivins suicide and framed anthrax case, and Suskind revealing the Bush faked letter of Jalil Habbush in the same week sure is bringing the buried bodies in this Iraq war-crime to the surface.

— Posted by Alan MacDonald

Suskind is now saying he will release the interview tapes, making the evidence public.

If I were him, I would not be boarding any aircraft any time soon. Or accepting any hunting invitations. and I would be double damn sure to tell people that I am feeling just fine, and happy with my life,and that if anything happens to me it was sure as hell not 'suicide'!

I don't know how important this is but it's related to the Suskind thing:

"New Evidence Suggests Suskind Is Right":
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/08/08/suskind/

This piece says former post-invasion interim Prime Minister of Iraq, Ayad Allawi (a long-time CIA asset), was at CIA HQ the week before he passed the forged document to the Sunday Telegraph in Britain. Putting this guy under oath in a Congressional hearing might or might not yield a surprise--if we had an opposition Party in Congress. He would be at pains to explain where he got the document he passed to the Telegraph. If he fingered Tenet then it would be Tenet's turn, although Tenet has already established a record for wasting his reputation by falling on swords for Duhhhbya. One never knows, though, he might get fed up. Bush, Cheney and the inner circle of neo-cons around them treat their bedfellows like shit as much as their enemies.

This maladministration should have produced multiple Deep Throats by now and I keep waiting for at least ONE with enough diamond hard evidence to percussively de-impact the entire colon load of horse shit that is the Bush administration. One of these slobs out there somewhere has to love his/her country. The clock is ticking....

So many nuggets of information - all leading to one conclusion: impeachment. Off the table.

We've known for some time about the Bush administration's lies and crimes. There's never been a doubt for years.

The complicity of elected Democrats as enablers of Bush crimes still is denied by the party faithful. If you count the number of Democratic legislators that opposed the Iraq war, only a handful resisted. And then they continued to fund the wars.

So, we've got this little space to vent. When will the whole thing blow? May the time come soon.

As I predicted somewhere on another blog, the only place this story is being discussed is on the internet, on alternative sites like CD. It had a 1-day cycle on the "news for dummies" on the networks. So, as far as the vast majority of Americans is concerned, Saddam Hussein had a hand in 9-11, and nothing will ever convince them otherwise.

On the little issue of the Niger yellow cake above, the Italian newspaper La Repubblica had reported and been investigating the involvment of Berlusconi on that, who then apparently was given a US contract to build presidential helicopters (a contract that had never left this country before). I'd like to see a follow up on that story.

We need a Revolution now folks, before they can have a complete grip on the food production and distribution.

One thing about "living in concert with Nature" that seems to be not mentioned is that many less technologically advanced societies did themselves in because they DIDN'T live in concert with Nature. There were several waves of development in Greece where agricultural societies killed themselves off with unsustainable practices leading to erosion. Southern African societies prior to the invasion of Europeans disappeared from overgrazing leading to death of their livestock, the basis of their society. Jared Diamond wrote a great book detailing the way that societies from the Mayas to the Easter Island natives destroyed their societies by overuse of the environments. If we are going to survive for the long haul, then we need to actually measure the use of the environment and what it can support and can't. Mindlessly copying "primitive" societies is a recipe for disaster because their productive capacities can't provide for the number of people alive today.

During my Peace Corps days I remember a Peruvian economist arguing that Peru could support itself if it went back to the Incan society where peasants grew food and the elites helped themselves to it. Unfortunately the methods that the Incan peasants used couldn't produce the amount of food necessary to support the type of society that Peru has today.

For those of you who see the present disaster as a meticulously wrought creation of the jerks who are momentarily benefitting from it, may I suggest The March To Folly by Barbara Tuchman? It is a discussion with three main examples and numerous lesser examples of how governments and power brokers have done really stupid, counterproductive things that they knew in advance were stupid and counterproductive. The main thread seems to be a refusal to think long term and immediate greed, which may be the same thing. This is a book published in 1986 and as you go through it you see time and time and time again the same stupid, avoidable mistakes that Reagan and Bush II later made in their forays into Latin America and the Middle East respectively. When things like this happen repetitively it indicates that there is some sort of cause and effect relationship, not a deliberate act.

Speaking of forgeries...what about the Niger embassy break-in in Rome where official stationery was stolen and later the forgery about Saddam/Niger yellowcake showed up written on same paper? After all the hoopla about the 16 words nobody cared/bothered to try and find out who produced it. You'd think since they'd been duped and made fools of there would have been an attempt to find out who did it. But, no. Nothing to see here. Move on.

As I am sure many other people have noticed, this letter has to be a forgery because it describes actions that never happened, but that the Cheney/Bush administration want us to believe in. Specifically, that action is the sale of yellow cake from Niger to Iraq. As it never happened, there is no way that the intelligence chief, Habbush, would have thought that it had, so there is no way that he would have actually written that. The only people with a vested interest in that bit appearing in an "official" record are the aforementioned administration.

Here's the entire exchange between C. Rice and Politico/Yahoo concerning the Suskind revelations. I don't know why the term MSM is accepted so readily these days. A much better acronym is FCP: Fascist Corporate Press.

QUESTION: Madame Secretary, as you know, there's a new book by Ron Suskind, which says that the White House ordered the CIA to falsify intelligence about Iraq's ties to al-Qaida. Is it possible the U.S. Government forged a letter from Iraq's intelligence chief to Saddam Hussein?

SECRETARY RICE: The United States Government didn't forge a letter -- the White House in which I was working. And I think that --

QUESTION: And they didn't direct --

SECRETARY RICE: And I think the people who he – as I understand it, the people that he quotes as being sources for that have denied it.

QUESTION: And so you think it's impossible that such a letter was created?

SECRETARY RICE: Look, the United States – the White House was not going to ask somebody to forge a letter on something of this importance.

QUESTION: And so you believe it did not occur?

SECRETARY RICE: It did not occur. The intelligence might have been wrong; that's now clear.

QUESTION: Right.

SECRETARY RICE: Not because people weren't working very hard. But when you have an opaque regime like Saddam Hussein's regime, that had used weapons of mass destruction before, that had them before, one can understand how the judgment may have been wrong. But the decision to go to war was based on the strategic threat of Saddam Hussein, the fact we'd been to war against him before, the fact that he still threatened his neighbors, and the fact that we were told that he was reconstituting his weapons of mass destruction.

METAL: Your 7:30 AM posting was fascinating and well-written & devised. I personally would prefer to see other than scientists alone as the arbiters of mankind's fate. Science can be so cold and logic-based (a world of Dr. Spocks, with feelings, the compassion of the heart, made conspicuous BY its absence). Also, the enforcement of reproductive rights is a bit scary.

Don't forget that arrangements more akin to the symbiosis Indigenous peoples shared with nature's systems could represent a different kind of paradigm. It's not just a numbers game. Rich people in Western cultures probably use resources that could feed a small village, small nation in some instances!

Nonetheless you have certainly contributed to the forum by sharing these well conceived ideas. Thank you.

Oops.
Election day is Nov 4
Meet ya on the mall Nov 5

RE: "AllTogetherNow... August 6th, 2008 1:38 pm
wall street.
labor day weekend?
tomorrow?"

national mall
nov 7 (day after they steal another one)
until their heads roll thru the streets

Dear metal:

You have got to get some sleep Baby. You are scaring me. Even scarier, you make sense. I live amongst people that have not a clue to what is going on. They are called neighbors. The guy next door works for the DOD and is a Republican red neck born again. He and his wife have tried to save my soul. Forsooth, I think all is lost.

Suskind's sources are already disclaiming his reporting.

If he indeed has recordings of their admissions, I presume he will promptly produce them.

Or he might just be disappeared, with an autopsy-free announcement that he offed himself with over-the-counter medication. Case closed!

Wow. The Bush & Repugnicans have corrupted the government?

This is the biggest relevation since it was disclosed that Hitler didn't like Jews...and probably about as actionable.

Who would have thought that the Repugnicans were so deceitful, after such shining examples as:

George "LEts sell weapons to Iran" Bush Senior

Ronald "Lets Rape Some South American Nuns" Regan

or

Richard " If the President does it, it's by definition Legal" Nixon

Suskind should be looking over his shoulder. Anyone with impeachable information sometimes ends up like the DC Madame. Remember her? She had a list of thousands of clients such as vitter and she "hung" herself.

The dogs don't bark. Time for local prosecutors to investigate why thier congressperson is going along with Bush crimes. If local prosecutor won't act, then someone should run for the office of DA on the platform of getting to the bottom of the Bush Co./DC crimes.

Bottom line.. Indict and put Pelosi on trial. It is nonsense that Sen. Ted Stevens and Larry Craig can be hauled before a judge for their petty crimes and yet for being accessories to 800 plus crimes of Bush nothing is done. Stevens must have really POed the justice dept to get prosecuted.

To MikeBinSC:

Since my insomnia is keeping me up lately I'll try to address your points one by one. But I first want to highlight some of the psychology of the sub-cultural mindset of the elitist corporate entities and corporatists that you mention: Men (and some very few women) who reach a certain level of financial wealth often begin to look on government and other forms of established social power as games they can play. When one is wealthy enough to play parlour games with global corporate agendas and Statecraft one is also pretty much insulated from the consequences of one's mistakes that may rain down poverty and devastation on those less fortunate people either deliberately or inadvertently affected. This toxic combination of cunning power games and indifference only worsens over a long cycle of deregulatory robber baron-hood, such as the one we've seen over the last 30 years.

Our current ruling class, in which I include the GOP, DLC Big Money Dimocrats, the ruling Oligarchs that pay off the lobbyists and politicians, and the corporatist media who do the Oligarchs' bidding, behaves consistently like a bunch of sheltered Ivy League frat boys (with a few special sorority sisters) whose wealth, elite social connections and sense of class entitlement to the reins of power has brewed in them a confident arrogance that despite how badly they screw up the country and the "little people," they themselves are economically and legalistically untouchable. They do not care about the consequences to others because they do not have to care. They do not care even about the consequences to many others of their own class so long as they do not feel seriously threatened by those others during and after their fall. To them it's all just a game.

That said,
1) The process of the energy companies leaning on Republicans to suppress scientific information about global warming began in earnest with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. There was a NASA mission planned to start in the late 1980s called the Mission to Planet Earth that was to have used a combination of multiple satellites, submarine data, aircraft data, sensor buoys and periodically updated industrial data on resource extraction to create a global model of the biosphere and as many of its major components as possible for the purposes of generating the most accurate computer scenarios regarding climate change. From the instant Gingrich stormed to power in the House he began quietly gutting funding for this mission. The resulting computer scenarios were far less accurate (although accurate enough) than they might have been. Throughout Gingrich's tenure he did everything he could to minimize the accumulation of scientific data on the environment and global warming. He and his backers in this clearly did not want the public to know.

How much of this flows from the Republican mindset that the only worthwhile science is science that produces rapid sizable corporate profits, or from the related mindset that likes to milk entrenched fossil fuel cash cows for as long as possible while living in denial about climate change I don't know. The very rich tend to throw huge temper tantrums when others try to wean them off their favorite teats--even scientists.

A related sinister and ongoing process is that the Pentagon, for over ten years now, has been developing regional and global strategies for exploiting various global warming scenarios--even as their "conservative" handlers who must know about these plans have denied the very existence of global warming. There have been two or three very scattered print media news reports about these military global warming exploitation scenarios and I would love to get my hands on some actual copies of them and find out specifically when these programs were originated and by whom. This is terrifyingly similar to the Pentagon mindset that believed in a "winnable nuclear war" when the U.S./Soviet global nuclear overkill factor was somewhere around 80. At its present pace, global warming is likely to kill Billions, and apparently our Pentagon believes it will be there to 'pick up the pieces.'

2) Yeah, the media. That's my special pet peeve. The money must be really golden at the networks for these fools to so willingly betray even their own progeny into a near future environment that will be increasingly hellish. I guess they've deceived themselves into thinking they can accumulate enough wealth to protect at least two or three generations. Or it's just the asinine corporate tendency toward herd-think in order to climb the ladder. Either way, there are NO fools like the self-deluded fools in our "mainstream media." The solution: Low power FM and online streams of low power FM content.

3) The Big Three U.S. auto makers started building "planned obsolescence" into their cars shortly after the Arab oil embargo of the early '70s. By the early '80s their cars were mostly absolute crap. The idea was to boost the bottom lines of both the car plants and the parts plants by making things so cheap and lame that they would wear out or break as rapidly as possible and people would go out and by replacements. The unions, sad to say, bought into this idea like suckers when management approached them on it. Then the Big Three soon turned on them and blamed the unions when car sales fell for being uncompetitive with better built foreign imports. It was "all the unions' fault" ran the Party Line, because the cost of their benefits and pensions prevented the car makers from updating assembly lines and building better cars that were quality and price competitive with the imports. The Democrats in the Congress of that period fell for this unquestioned--hook, line and sinker--and this was, in my recollection, one of the first signs of their slow march toward eventually becoming the Republican Lite Party.

4) The corporatist circle-jerk we know as the business press and their particular punditocracy did the same thing in the lead up to the Enron implosion. This habit of touting the cash cow invincibility of straw-tigers like Enron, piling on as many suckers willing to invest as possible and then watching the company's senior execs bail with golden parachutes is a corporate hallmark of our era. The press and Wall Street boys openly ADMIRED this piracy at the time and scoffed at the Enron employees and investors that got screwed saying, "investing is always a risk,"--except when the fix is in and you are one of the privileged insiders who knows when to bail. This is the quintessence of warped players playing a warped Big Money game admiring the other players.

But the sad and disgusting thing about this epoch is that once upon a time the Ivy League business schools used to teach their graduates how to build long lasting businesses that weren't always hugely profitable. They didn't provide sudden leaps in stock prices at regular intervals before they suddenly imploded or were taken over and dismantled, but they were steady and built reputations for dependability and stability that lasted decades or over a century. For almost 3 decades now we've seen our most prominent business schools graduate generations of vipers whose expertise is not in business longevity, but sordid and unethical accounting tricks, offshore dummy accounts, and corporate takeovers and corporate bail-outs (on the taxpayer dime if at all possible).

These idiots LOVE the quick money that comes from sudden stock leaps produced by mergers, massive lay-offs and the selling off of lucrative components of what used to be functioning parent corporations. These generations also stupidly and eagerly presided over the off-shoring of nearly all of America's heavy manufacturing base--the effects on America's middle-class and its ability to generate sufficient tax revenue to support $500 Billion dollar annual global defense budgets as well as poverty welfare, corporate welfare and a puny discretionary budget be damned.

The military-industrial complex is about to wake up to that harsh reality--that it, too, will soon be unaffordable in anything like its present scale and the corporatist, kill the middle-class, tax cuts for the rich during war-time mindset it swims in is to blame.

5) The fact that sex sells is an old pillar of American corporate advertising, especially since the 1950s. An old senior VP in charge of advertising at Procter and Gamble once famously said, "Americans don't know what they want. It's up to us to tell them what they want."

The growing pressure of the Moral Majority and Christian Coalition types since the mid-1980s (and especially under Duhhhbya) pushed the "Christian Right's" anti-family planning, anti-birth control message via the UN into the Third World. The corporate Right nodded unblinking at this all the while.

The fact that the corporate Right acceded unquestioningly to this is the most sinister of all the developments you mention in my opinion because it is, on its face, ecological suicide. The profit incentive to engineer a short term profit from what will inexorably be the species collapse of our own species must, therefore, be enormous. And so it is.

Consider: It becomes far easier for an American corporation not to care about the economic condition of Americans if it is no longer depending on them to earn enough to buy sufficient numbers of its products to make said corporation profitable. The purely political motive for this is that by reducing the affluence of the middle-class it makes the bulk of the electorate much more easy to manipulate because they must spend more of their time and money trying to cover costs from month to month and survive.

The easiest way to achieve this situation is to globally diversify both your manufacturing plants, your workers and the market for your products. Manufacturing plants in 3rd world countries have minimal labor protections, few if any expensive environmental laws, dirt cheap labor and billions of consumers. The greater the over-populations, the bigger and cheaper your labor pool and the bigger the market for your goods.

Best of all, for the reckless capitalist, you can begin to pit nascent growing middle-classes in these countries (profiting from our former middle-class job and manufacturing plant losses) against their vast poor populations, and in politically dividing them, make THEIR populations and government officials easier to manipulate and control. You can turn loose Amurkan satellite infotainment propaganda and give them visions of gleaming affluent lifestyles the majority of them will not and cannot ever have. But their willingness to BELIEVE they will will make most of them tow the line just like they do here at home. The game gets bigger, more complex and more interesting to play for previously domestically bored (because they'd pretty much conquered most Amurkans) Amurkan multinational aristocrats.

6) See number 4 above. Same mindset.

7) Re Humanely reducing the world's over-population: War(s) are the path we as a species are on now. The Pentagon's and many think-tanks' planning scenarios predict these resource wars will multiply and carpet the globe in coming years. They will be worsened by ethnic and sectarian strife. The U.S. is, right out of the 21st century gate, already the worst resource war transgressor.

Because of human nature and entrenched and powerful interests here and around the world, I think there is very little chance that humanity will be able to move itself off the current path. But I still believe in that chance.

Far too many well-educated people as well as illiterates share what has become a common nihilism, either conscious or sub-conscious, that humanity's fate is sealed in the lifetime of their grandchildren or great-grandchildren and there is really nothing we can do about it--so business-as-usual is tolerated even though it's obviously making the situation rapidly worse. I think a lot of good people even put on a false front--for the sake of maintaining hope in others--that this is not the case, but in their secret hearts they believe it is.

Too many people insist that there is not now and never was anything humanity could have done to prevent it and I am determined to prove, especially to the most sneering, war and ecological profiteering corporatist naysayers, that they and their mindset is wrong.

It took all of human ancestral pre-history and history--some 3 million years by latest estimates--for human beings to reach a population of roughly one billion by 1800. The onset of the Industrial Revolution (variously dated in the 1700s but sinking its teeth in by 1800) brought with it industrialized transportation, industrialized farming, industrialized communications, industrialized medicine and industrialized sanitation just to name a few. Within another 200 years humanity had multiplied, despite two World Wars, six-fold. The concept of short-term profits was always near and dear to the core of industrial capitalism. But the idea of long-term consequences from industrialization (now globalized) was and is still shunned by its owners and operators. Industrial humanity has always focused on reacting to aftermaths, not preventative planning--especially planning that blames profitable components of industrialization for negative social outcomes.

Since the late 19th century industrial era capitalists have pointed to the outdated and dumbed down notion of Social Darwinism--using it as an excuse to pit less fortunate populations against each other. Contemporary theories of evolution demonstrate that social cooperation between members of the same species and between different species (symbiosis), including complex interdependency chains of animal and plant species (most common in the most biodiverse species-generating habitats like rainforests and coral reefs) are as much or more important than competition within or among species.

Industrial human societies, and especially their ruling classes, have yet to reflect this reality in their own theories of economics, governance or human society as a whole. The old theory is much more supportive of over-concentrated wealth, over-concentrated selfishness and, therefore, wasted social problem solving potential. Bigotry thrives under the old theory and this is politically useful, too. Master races, manifest destiny, white supremacy, national "exceptionalism," and all that.

But human beings, in scientific fact, moved away from the process of natural evolution and "natural selection"--even dumbed down notions of purely competition-based hunter-gatherer societies--with the advent of agriculture, and almost fully severed the old genomic pact with Mother Nature with the advent of the Industrial Revolution. In their heedless rush to embrace industry they failed to perceive that they must now take responsibility for altering complex natural balances that were billions of years in the making. And in so doing take morally mature, technological responsibility for the continued survival for their own and other species. They never thought that far ahead. Now the consequences of pretending to be both in and above the natural order are looming fast.

Amurkans and Amurkan capitalists are facing a hard choice of either unprecedented cooperation with other nations and peoples or a war-torn, increasingly toxic and unsurvivable biosphere that will render their grandchildren's lives an industrial Malthusian hell of the first order.

I believe that the time for governmental decisions based simply on greed, power-lust, racial discrimination or religion is over.

The scale and the complexity of the decisions that now must be made for the collective good of the planet must originate from hard empirical science and be made by scientists. Because of the global consequences, these decisions should be made by scientists and scientifically educated representatives from every nation on earth in a new global League of Terraformational Planning.

Scientists should determine, on a habitat study basis, what the optimal human population (including data on environmentally optimized food, energy and waste production systems) for a given habitat or interrelated range of habitats is and generate planning scenarios to achieve those optimized populations. The objective here will be to maintain as much sustainable biodiversity and harmony between human populations and remnant wildlife habitats and species as possible, recover habitat and species losses where possible, and encourage human populations to view the world they inhabit not in terms of arbitrarily drawn political, racial, religious or economic boundaries, but as a commonwealth of shared habitats to be protected from war and profiteering predation.

To implement planned population reductions will require the development of an entirely new discipline of planned, optimized "environomic" (environmentally sustainable economic) contraction and restructuring.

But the hardest part will be the population reductions themselves. This is because they must be globally agreed to, scientifically determined by scientists representing all nations, and monitored and enforced by similarly scientifically educated representatives from all nations.

This may call for the creation of a new global bicameral scientists' legislature.

Since industrial technology provided the artificial means for human populations to soar into billions--out of harmony with the biosphere--technological means should help facilitate human population reductions to compensate for that fact and restore that harmony.

The trade-off for having the benefits of technology will be no longer regarding the act of procreation as a right, but as a social privilege to be qualified for and earned. Scientific determinations can be made on a nation by nation, and habitat by habitat basis as to the number of children a qualifying couple may have. When they've reached their limit they will be compulsorily sterilized. To qualify to have a child or children (as the scientific case may be), a couple must meet certain minimal educational, health and economic standards. They must also attain a sufficient number of social service or altruism credits by performing, over a number of years, socially and environmentally beneficial work for the good of human society and the biosphere.

People who violate the birthing restrictions will be permanently sterilized. All convicted violent criminals will be sterilized. All white collar criminals who defraud representative governments of in excess of a million dollars will be sterilized.

I think to prevent unplanned pregnancies among underaged people that new technologies to reversibly sterilize all young people below a certain age should be developed, and that they should be rendered fertile again when they have qualified to have a child or children. They should then be allowed to remain fertile and be provided with free government contraceptives so long as they do not go over the limit on the number of children they have.

All artificial impregnation, test tube babies, etc., should be outlawed. To deal with the increasing infertility in many areas of the First World, couples from the First World must adopt children from the Third World in exchange for social services, investment or technologies needed by the Third World. Once the system I foresee restores some sense of sustainable global environmental balance between human populations and ecologies there will be no millions of tiny orphans dying every year from preventable diseases or contaminated water. And infertile couples in the First World will then be allowed to adopt the children of other parents who have received birthing waivers to have extra children for that purpose.

Mother Nature has been sending industrialized humanity a message with their increase in infertility and they have been using artificial means to leapfrog around the fading memory of natural evolution. The children produced by such artificial means can only accumulate bad recessive genes and become more and more divergent from a more normal sustainable human genome over time.

There, I've just about solved it all in one post;-)

Metal, I just can't shake the feeling that this, now nearly unavoidable collapse of the entire economic/social system, was not blundered into by mere corporate greed, but has been planned, choreographed, orchestrated and directed to reach this crescendo that we now find ourselves unwilling, and in many cases, unwitting participats in.

The absolute control over the perceived reality by the MIMIC(military-industrial-media-infotainment-complex), does't just keep the sheeple uninformed and intellectually lazy, but a steady stream of deliberate misinformation and propaganda makes them demand their own mistreatment at the hands of their corporate masters. How crazy is that?

I'm going to touch on a few examples just as food for thought, but the list seems endless:

1) The energy companies knew about, suppressed information and paid for disinformation campaigns regarding global warming, and got a lot of help from the Bushies in tainting EPA and NASA reports.

2) The oil companies and our government knew about the looming crisis of peak oil for many years, as I did, and the media hid it from the people.

3) The giant automakers, GM, Ford, and Chrysler, knew about peak oil too, yet they continued to R&D and market the huge gas-guzzling vehicles to the American people, and made no effort to invest in smaller, energy efficient and alternative energy vehicles, as if they were planning to fail in order to squash the labor unions.

4) Economists, market magazines and commentators were all aware of the coming burst of the housing bubble and the subsequent failure in the banking and financial institutions and turmoil that it would cause, but said nothing, and actually worked to spread misinformation about it in the media, and still work to minimize the sheeples understanding of the depth of the crisis.

5) Everyone knows that the increasing population exacerbates the problems above along with food shortages, resource depletion and water shortages, but the media-articulated policies thwart contraception and birth control and encourage the activity that spreads sexually transmitted diseases as the media hard-sells sex to an ever-younger audience each year.

6) Big multi-national corporations, all of them, in every market sector, have been siphoning billions of dollars from stockholders and employees into the pockets of CEOs, board members and executives in exorbitant pay and bonuses as reward for literally running the companies into the ground. Many of those companies facing insolvency are bought up by other companies for pennies on the dollar. The only real losers in the deals are the employees.

These are just a few observations, there are many more, but I just get the sense that the powers-that-be (the oligarchy) have spent a lot of time and effort setting us (the common people) up for the "coup de grace" in the very near future.

And just what would be the best manner in which to reduce the worlds population to avoid the struggle over scarce resources? Nuclear war? Very messy as it destroys a lot of needed infrastructure and poisons the environment. How about a plague that spreads quickly and kills quickly, and the chosen ones can be immunized with a secret vaccine to prevent their contracting the illness?

Yuca reminded me of another good idea:

12) The People's Progressive Party whose creation I urge should accumulate a comprehensive list of corporations and individual donors who show pronounced favoratism towards the GOP and the Bush Dynasty and BOYCOTT THEM PERMANENTLY. Another list of companies who supply the same or similar goods and services who do not engage in decidedly pro-Republican behavior should not be boycotted. The neo-cons waged total culture war against everybody else in this country and if the progressives are serious they will retaliate with economic power and massively organized non-violence.

There was a coup on this country 8 years ago... Isn't that enough to send every one of them away for a long time. And the Dems are all in on it.

The only way to hurt them is with money. Take every last cent of our collective money out of the banks and see what happens.

From the DemocracyNow transcript of Pelosi's interview on The View:

PELOSI: If somebody had a crime that the President had committed, that would be a different story.
....

BARBARA WALTERS: When we—when I interviewed you last year, you had just begun, and you were going to clean up the mess, remember?

REP. NANCY PELOSI: And we did.
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There's a lot of liberals and progressives with good instincts and many others operating on good information with political smarts. So why, the moment Pelosi insisted "Impeachment is off the table!" in 2006 before that November didn't the large progressive and anti-war organizations start organizing to impeach or remove Pelosi and impeach Dick Cheney and Bush in that order??? Talk about an obvious motivator for impeachment, jeeze-duhleeza.

Pelosi's proclamation that she was going to, without any clear and convincing reason, preemptively surrender the ONLY and most powerful tool of Constitutional leverage she had against Team Bush--riding a tidal wave of anti-war support at the time that the Dims have frivolously pissed away--made no sense whatsoever and the progressives and anti-war people should have seized on it with extreme prejudice and gone after her immediately.

If the "leaders" of the progressive and anti-war movements can't seize obvious opportunities like that in a more timely manner, then what is the use bitching about the slippery slope into ecological-Hot Box, Globally Depressed, Fritz Lang-ian fascism now? The Right is just laughing their asses off at us and our so-called progressive leaders right now, let alone the scum they've bought in the DLC.

Logical steps to take not necessarily in this order:
1) Stock up on canned, preserved food and clean water.
2) Grow a garden and dig a well if you can. Buy some live chickens and maybe later a cow (for fresh milk) if you can. Learn to barter what you grow or make for things you can't grow or make.
3) Stock up on pistols, rifles and ammunition. Teach your family and friends how to use and maintain firearms.
4) Get off the grid if possible or at least get a portable generator and several camping stoves that burn multiple liquid fuels. Stock up on fuels.
5) If you can, move to the countryside in an area where there is clean municipal water or aquifers not too contaminated for drinking if you dig a well. Scout your terrain for the best defensible positions and shore up weakly defended areas the best you can.
6) If you are stuck in an urban area be aware of buildings in your immediate vicinity that are readily defensible and have water supplies and have sub-basements if possible. Get to know your neighbors well enough to tell the Right-wing assholes and other zombies from the decent folks with two brain cells to rub together. You may need to call on each other sooner than you think.
7) Create one unified Progressive People's Party out of all the willing progressive organizations.
8) Organize a 2 to 3 day protest event in D.C. or Wall Street in NYC that summons a media-compelling 2 to 3 million progressives calling for a Congressional shut-down or a general strike until real impeachment hearings are held that allow evidence to be presented.
9) Create a hard core of 200,000 or more prepared with tents, food, water and medical supplies to camp out and refuse to move until the PPP's 3 to 5 major demands are met. Similar to the WWI bonus marchers. Be prepared to hold out as long as possible. Be prepared to suffer and/or flee the military.
10) Have members and leaders of this movement publicly call on people and political leaders here and around the world to support this movement to demand Constitutional accountability for our outlaw "leaders" who place their personal money and power above the Constitution.
11) If this is done after Jan. 2008 (and martial law hasn't already been declared before then since we know Team Bush and its legions of dupes will stop at nothing), then stage the same events and demand criminal trials for all former members of Team Bush involved in national security policy at the top of Bush's and Cheney's inner circles. Referrals to the Hague to follow.

Good comments. I think it's good to let it out. Still, who here is sick and tired of being sick and tired? Unlike the consumption-crazed public, many people who come here care more about their world, and the cause of peace than what's on TV. We are in effect the choir. Suskind, or McClellan, or whoever can preach to us and bring out this fact or that truth when we've been aware of this evil for years now. Our problem has been that we haven't mobilized, or had the resources to confront the source of our problems, which far more than Bush is the general public's apathy and lack of political participation (facilitated by a dumbed down media.)

If the good guys are having problems, it's because we can't make the antiwar movement more robust. Protests were never tried on a scale of Vietnam simply because we've had no draft. Everyone's cocooning. But like Cindy Sheehan's article (linked above), Bush's reign will bring hardship to many. So we can't escape the majority's lack of discretion, but will rather suffer for it.
This from http://www.strike-the-root.com/ :
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry Thoreau

And Bush prostitute Nancy Peloser had the bravery to go in front of the American people just a few days ago on The View and tell us there's no evidence of any crime. Oh really?

Why isn't Obaminable screaming his lungs out on the campaign trail about this? Because he's a Bush co-conspirator, that's why.

Democrats are despicable, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

When are you Dem Party Apologists and Lesser Evilists apologizing to Nader?

In a democracy, every citizen, regardless of his interest in politics, "holds office"; every one of us is in a position of responsibility; and, in the final analysis, the kind of government we get depends upon how we fulfill those responsibilities. We, the people, are the boss, and we will get the kind of political leadership, be it good or bad, that we demand and deserve. –

John Fitzgerald Kennedy - Thirty-fifth President of the United States.

"George Tenet is claiming he doesn't remember any such thing — just like he couldn't remember "slam dunk" " (Ron Suskind)

This is a blatant lie. Anyone who knows how to use Google can find out what George Tenet said about "slam dunk."

Don't read the bullshit; read George Tenet's own words.

Often there is for me a disconnect in this sort of business.

On the one hand, we can have governments that do things (like, attack foreign countries, or use illegal weapons and methods) that the public disapproves of. And they do it with impunity, caring not a whit about what the public wants.

On the other hand, these same governments go to such elaborate subterfuges ( like forged letters, false flag operations, war on terror,...) to influence public opinion.

It's as if they really do want to be perceived as legal, righteous, knights-in-the-people's-service.

Now that the truth is out there is only one sane thing to do; kill the messenger.

This is the story of how Osama Bin Laden enabled an evil moron to wreck the most powerful nation on Earth. Who woudda' thunk that a Texas yee-ha-dist moron could pin Uncle Sam to the ground, pick his pockets, and choke him to near death?

Please read "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" by Vincent Bugliosi.

cavedweller,

re. your previous post in this thread --
This, from the Declaration of Independence:

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their *duty,* to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." (Asterisks added.)

When I was in college, Dick Gregory came to our campus and, among other things, quoted the above excerpt from the Declaration of Independence

Dick Gregory:
"What this says is that it is your duty, *your duty* to replace the government. So I want you to go home and copy that part of the Declaration of Independence. Come on, you're all college kids, you know how to copy!"

Interestingly enough, there's a monument in Washington (I think it's at the Jefferson Memorial) that *leaves out* the part in the above quote about it being we, the people's, duty to replace the government. That part is omitted, and in its place is an ellipsis, three dots ...

So, to be good and loyal Americans, let's simply play by the rules set down by the Founding Fathers.

A revolutionary idea, I know. But, hey, I didn't make the rules!

What is a suitable punishment for a war criminal?

Many people, myself included, don't believe in capital punishment, even for a war criminal.

Back in 1961, when the Israelis captured Adolph Eichmann, I and a friend of mine -- who also doesn't believe in capital punishment -- were discussing what a suitable punishment should be for Adolph Eichmann.

"He shouldn't be executed," my friend said, "because a.) I don't believe in capital punishment, and b.) If he's executed, he would be a 'martyr' to any number of crazy people in the world."

"What should be his punishment then?" I asked my friend.

"Put him in jail for life -- with a loaded pistol. If and when he realizes what he's done, he'll know what to do."

it says something about nations, and particularly the un-united states, when it takes so long for the truth to emerge, longer for there to be enough consensus to act on it and longest by far to finally get around to administering appropriate justice. the slime from the slugs of time have so clogged up our brains, we can for all practical purposes witness hellatious atrocities and be so unmoved that it is as if nothing happened.

shock and outrage fatigue, naturally leading to greater outrages. nothing wrong with the faculties of perception except that they have become compromised by a weak-to-nonexistant will.

Dear Mr. Suskind:

1. What about the possibility that the forgery came from the White House itself -- perhaps Karl Rove, for example? Would that possibility not be consistent with the current CIA denials?

2. Any idea if the former head of Iraqi intelligence was the one who gave Tenet the tip (as reported by "Frontline"), about Saddam's supposed location, that led President Bush to launch the bombing attack that started the war sooner than he had intended? Or did this tip possibly come from another part of the White House, perhaps VP Cheney's office?

Both of the above questions have to do with exactly who was the primary contact with the former head of Iraqi intelligence, the CIA or someone in the White House?

While the the forces of good and evil are battling out in this presidential campaign for this country's soul, we learn that dirty little secret of the fake letter, and still our representatives in Washington do not move promptly to get to the bottom of this in hearings we can all view. Shame.

"In the fall of 2003, after the world learned there were no WMD — as Habbush had foretold"

How about, "as Iraq foretold in it's 12,000 page dossier submitted to the UN prior to the war claiming it had no WMD's".

"Hussein was acting so odd because of fear that the Iranians would find out he was a toothless tiger. "
How was he acting odd? This insinuates that he was claiming to have WMD's or at least create ambiguity. Nothing could be further from the truth. He explicitly claimed not to have them. His claims were in the process of being supported by the UN weapons inspectors in Iraq, which had to be removed before their job was finished, so that we could invade.

Impeach and imprison.

Impeach, no, Arrest as an Enemy Combatant without Habeas Corpus.

The surprise is, people seem surprise of this news.
It's common knowledge that every Dept. in the Federal Gov't. has been tainted, or corrupted by this administrattion. It wouldn't surprise me if Bin Laden is in secret protection with all amenities supplied by Bush.

Govorporation--it has too many tentacles w/ poisonous suckers for us to do anything concrete to offset the corruption.

The CIA budget is 30 billion/yr.

good work ron

maybe some of the chickenshit yanks will finally see it is their own psycho prez that's making them piss their pants with fear

This just seems to provide more fodder for Bugliosi's argument. Impeachment isn't enough!

Siskind is on National Public Radio Fresh Air radio program tonight.

Jail to the chief.

Yesterday I received a request for a donation from the Democratic Party claiming it needs funds to combat McCain with regard to his anticipated selection of a VP like the dangerous Cheney.

I replied in all caps, "WHY INDEED HAVE YOU NOT IMPEACHED CHENEY?"

No reply so far . . . .

Galen August 6th, 2008 12:42 pm

With this 'revelation', does anyone here still REALISTICALLY think there will be anything CLOSE to a 'democratic' election?

Wanna bet there will be either more 'Diebold' vote fraud shenanigans or another 'terrorist' event that just cancels the elections altogether?

We've gone over this before Galen, I won't bet in Cdn Funds, you'll not accept Zimbabwe Dollars. I must admit it's quite strange to see a totalitarian government like bush's allow such truth to be told. Usually they arrest the malcontents like Suskind. Yet in this case, he's allowed to talk. Most will never hear what he has to say, and those who do will not allow their willful ignorance to be shaken.

I'd say a nuke strike on Iran will lead to a 'victory' for McCain, unless McCain drops dead of a heart attack on the campaign trail and then bush will be 'reelected' with a 75 percent approval rating.

The harsh reality is that Bush and Cheney could appear on national television and confess all their crimes and NOTHING would happen to them except maybe so negative press reports.

Maybe we should skip impeachment and save time–just move directly to treason and war crime trials for all three branches.

Keith Olbermann had an interview with Suskind yesterday, where Suskind laid out the case, and Olbermann expressed concern regarding the charges....

But who's going to do anything... Put pressure on your congressperson... I think not. We can grouse and complain until the cows come home, but the wrecking crew has effectively disengaged government from the people....

What a shame, it could have been a nation of dreams come true, but has instead been sold to the highest bidder....

KCT

The WAR CRIMINALS' plausable deniability just got less plausable,which is a step forword-THANX Mr. Suskind.

Condi Rice last wknd at our local music fest said (vis a vis Iraq)"what really gets under my skin is when people say GWB wanted WAR,because he didn't."

Add that LIE to the 985 (documented)that the WAR PIGS used for the IRAQI GENOCIDE.

THE NOOSE is a TIGHT-ing!

RichM: "If any leading Democrats were really opposed to Bush or US militarism in any meaningful way, they'd be all over this"

This is a good point. It is, as Sherlock Holmes would say, the dog that didn't bark. I watched a couple of Suskind interviews on youtube. No sign of any Democrat response. Once again, despite evidence to the contrary, in the absence of an opposition party, it is enough for George Tenet to say that he can't recall anything and for the white house press secretary to go after the whistle blowers.

Based on the above, every soldier in uniform has the legal right (some would say obligation) to lay down his/her arm and refuse to fight further.

The war is illegal so no one has to fight. No one SHOULD fight it.

If you know anyone in uniform, tell them the news.

Suskind's book is another in a long list of works that show the sadofascist Bush regime for what it is. But until We the People throw out the Congressional weaklings who continue with the status quo of legalized bribes from the corporations that really run things, nothing will change. Maybe it's too late to be working through the electoral process. Perhaps it's time, as others in this thread have said, to take to the streets. To paraphrase Jefferson: If the government ceases to work for the people, the people have a right to change it with any means possible.

Regarding impeachment and criminal charges, we have to avoid a situation that whoever takes office to complete Bush's second term is not someone who could pardon Bush and company.

I think impeach maybe, but hold off on criminal charges until January 21, 2009.

Those last minute pardons can be a bitch.

There are two indispensable books for understanding what has happened to this country in the last few decades. One is Robert Bryce's "Cronies: How Texas Business became American Policy--and Brought Bush to Power" and Kevin Phillips' "American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush." A careful reading of these two books will help anyone who is confused about how and why democracy has been undermined in recent years. The Bushes and their cohorts feel themselves entitled and above the law and constitution, though of course they would never say so. As long as the WASP ascendancy was in control here right through WWII and for a while after that war, the Bushes and their class cohorts could operate with impunity, but after the peoples' revolution here in the 60's and 70's the right wing monied elite, now not only WASP but open to recruits from other backgrounds organized a counter-revolution the end result of which was inevitable--overthrow of the US constitution and preparation for martial law. That is where we are at now, waiting for the other shoe to drop in the form of a "terror attack" or a financial meltdown or both.

"statutory violation of the charter of CIA"

Ho-hum. Another Bush administration crime. Move along. Nothing exciting to see here.

Just wait for the sound of crickets. The national outrage that should be building to deafening proportions is non-existent. This story was reported on NBC news, although with no sense of outrage to tinge the narrative. I will bet that we've seen the total exposure this revelation is going to receive. One news cycle. As a populace, we are asleep at the wheel. Responsibility? Accountability? Do we care? Hah!

A good (and angry) article by Cindy Sheehan at Counterpunch.
www.counterpunch.com/sheehan08062008.html

wall street.
labor day weekend?
tomorrow?

Bread and circus.

If Suskind is right in asserting he has solid proof of his claims, there doesn't even have to be an "investigation" by Congress, since all the work has already been done. Suskind is telling them exactly what happened, and which persons can testify -- with firsthand knowledge -- that it happened.

Ignoring Suskind's work -- as the Democrats & the mainstream media are undoubtedly going to do -- amounts to willfully ignoring solid evidence of horrific crimes. You have the corporate media & both parties collaborating on keeping the truth hushed up.

That's the level we've sunk to. The truth means nothing any more.

BillyD1953 (12:31 pm) writes "...I was sickened yesterday by an NPR interview of Ron Suskind. As with all other mainstream media they were more than anxious to be very skeptical of his findings while acting as mere stenographers and regurgitators for all the lies that BushCo has poured out...."

- I didn't hear this particular interview, but we've all seen this -- and nothing BUT this -- for years now. When you hear the MSM doing stuff like this, you're hearing the corruption that rules American society, in real time.

Suskind you idiot, you failed to have Paris Hilton endorse your book and now it's headed to pinhead purgatory.

Impeachment's too good for 'em. String 'em up!, following the Nuremburg precedents.

Mordechai, great idea but no strategy. You don't throw away the man or the corpse - you trade him to the ICC for petrol and food. He should be worth a bunch. The same but to a lesser degree with the heads of both Houses of Congress and their Dim collaborators, the Supreme Court Justices, Colin Powell, and the JCS. For starters. Then you hang the profiteers and confiscate all their wealth, especially the arms merchants, KBR, Hellsaburnin, Bechtel, et al. BUT

Truth is, 70+% don't even know there's a war and the balance couldn't find the place on a map. It's the Empire thing. Ask a Freedman in Rome where the Roman Legions were fighting at any given moment in time, couldn't tell you, the News Readers lie any way. But he could tell you to the dime what he can earn in a day and what the good bread costs. And when Rome fell, those who could, got out, anywhere.

Unfortunately, Krakatoa had an orgasm at about the same time and made the planet so dark and cold that you couldn't grow food worth a damn for what...several hundred years? And the Church of Rome by that point had emptied the 1000 libraries of the Empire of 1500 years of science, history, art, medicine, mathematics, and philosophy because, like now, they hate books. Called them "Pagan". If you say it right it rhymes with Communist.

And of course, now the flow of the Gulf Stream's down by 30%. If it stops, Northern Europe becomes an ice cube once again, nothing will grow there, and people will be able to drive across the Channel, with snow tires.

But, that's the next chapter and you wouldn't want to jump ahead, would you.

For now, grab him, hold him, and begin negotiations for his sale. In the meantime, he should have a direct experience of the "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" that he so widely admires. That's what he's done to us already. We will be kind however, we'll use the same bent shrinks and Mengalas to fuck him that he uses now. GWB after a month in hell should look a site. Worth every penny.

Diebold, just last month, recieved exclusive rights to their ATM machines in and around the Olympic Village in China. Payback or down payment??

I agree. Impeach Dubya and abolish the CIA. Reform the UN Security Council (no more permanent vetoes) and cancel all third world timber/mining concessions that originated from the colonization period. That would be a good start.

Multinational corps need to be heavily regulated and the weapons producing countries must be held accountable for the results of their sales.

Example: Is it moral for the US or our allies to sell weapons to both sides in a civil war in DR Congo (Zaire) while our multinational mining corps (or our allies') step up mining of Congo's wealth? This needs to be illegal.

From independence to the present what tiny percentage of the billions of dollars in minerals that have left Congo made it into the hands of the Congolese people? In some cases, zero percent! Some mining concessions date back to Congo Free State and others to Mobutu's thievery.

When all the colonializing powers relinquished political control of the third world they did so under the conditions that they would not relinquish economic control including unjust natural resource treaties and concessions etc.

Speaking of unfair treaties, the Iraqi Oil Laws and the Iraqi Constitution, penned by Bush's stooges, serve as modern examples of what the CIA is capable of doing in broad daylight. Pretty scary stuff.

Those Iraqi Oil laws are worth trillions of dollars to multinational corporations!

Impeach, prosecute, convict, execute. Then, like Hitler, bury George Wanker Bush under a gas station in the dead of night in some remote and depressing "No Country for Old Men" shithole somewhere in what's left of this nation. Don't tell anybody where the remains are, not even his family. Even this is too good for this lying traitor, this Manchurian Candidate sent here by Corporate America to annihilate the United States.

With this 'revelation', does anyone here still REALISTICALLY think there will be anything CLOSE to a 'democratic' election?

Wanna bet there will be either more 'Diebold' vote fraud shenanigans or another 'terrorist' event that just cancels the elections altogether?

"a statutory violation of the charter of CIA"? Sounds bad, but what can you do with executive branch law breaking?

The Democrats can put this on the agenda of your next "not an impeachment hearing" hearing, just as soon as they retroactively legalize it. So many crimes, and only one Dennis Kucinich. Mind you, we don't want to bind the hand of the next president, do we? Not when there are so many countries left to invade.

If any leading Democrats were really opposed to Bush or US militarism in any meaningful way, they'd be all over this -- because Suskind has great credibility to begin with, & is now explicitly saying he has hard evidence of impeachable crimes.

But of course, we already know what the Democrats will do: they'll pretend Suskind doesn't exist. In this way, they'll once again prove that their real mission is protecting Bush & US militarism from public examination.

Pets - How about Wall Street in New York?

Like father, like son. George H.W. Bush used CREEP (Committe to RE-Elect the President) money left over from his days as RNC chairman for Nixon to pay the Iranians to keep our diplomats hostage in 1980. This was done to ensure the election of the Reagan/Bush team. High treason, no question about it.

George W. Bush induced the fabricated letter to engage in a war based on false premises. This was done to ensure his re-election, maintain subservience to the Israel lobby, ensure Republican majorities in Congress, grab oil, and other motives (pay bundles of money the Halliburton, whose largest shareholder was/is Dick Cheney). Again, high treason, no question about it.

Name the street. I'll be there.

Maybe we should skip impeachment and save time--just move directly to treason and war crime trials. I was sickened yesterday by an NPR interview of Ron Suskind. As with all other mainstream media they were more than anxious to be very skeptical of his findings while acting as mere stenographers and regurgitators for all the lies that BushCo has poured out each day for nearly 8 years now. As soon as you impune the Administration all these journalists suddenly remember what skepticism, cynicism and investigative reporting are all about. But when money and power are doing the talking they quickly return to being stenographers again. Makes me ill.

The american sheeple will never take to the streets in numbers large enough to make a difference. They have been anesthetized by the television to the point that they have no values anymore beyond their own front door. Just as they will watch people lying in the street, dying, and not lend a hand, so too will they allow criminals to run the country, and throw up their hands declaring there's nothing they can do, it's not their problem, their lives are fine. They have forgotten history, and forgotten how germany fell so far, so fast.

Is *this* the evidence of 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors' needed to bring down the organized criminal enterprise known to the world as the Bush Administration?

Is this what is needed to drag Bush and his entire cabal before the War Crimes Tribunal of the International Criminal Court in the Hague? (And yes, I know that the US is not signatory to the ICC... ore's the shame.)

Time to take to the streets people.

Impeach and prosecute.

Impeach.