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New Zealand Students Offer New Bounty For Arrest of Condoleezza Rice For War Crimes
WELLINGTON, New Zealand - A group of New Zealand students offered a higher reward Saturday for the citizen's arrest of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for war crimes after another group withdrew their own bounty, accusing police of threatening them.
Students at Victoria University in the capital, Wellington, doubled the original reward offer to US$7,400, according to Joel Cosgrove, the student president.
Cosgrove said Rice should be arrested because she is responsible for the deaths of at least 600,000 Iraqis killed since the 2003 invasion by U.S.-led coalition troops.
"Condoleezza Rice needs to be tried before the international war crimes tribunal," Cosgrove told New Zealand's National Radio.
The new bounty came a day after the Auckland University Students' Association made a formal complaint to local police seeking Rice's arrest for "overseeing the illegal invasion and continued occupation" of Iraq in violation of the Geneva Conventions.
The Auckland students offered a reward of 5,000 New Zealand dollars (US$3,700), but late Friday withdrew the bounty. Student President David Do said authorities had threatened criminal charges for anyone trying to make a citizen's arrest.
"It is unfortunate the police have threatened students for essentially a form of peaceful protest and civil disobedience," Do said.
Superintendent Brett England, the district police commander in Auckland, New Zealand's biggest city, warned anyone attempting to penetrate the security around Rice would be punished.
"The consequences of such a security threat could be very serious indeed," England said.
Rice, asked about the demonstration at a news conference Friday, said "student protests are particularly a long-honored tradition in democratic society."
"I can only say that the United States has done everything that it can to end this war on terror, to live up to our international and national laws and obligations," Rice said.
About 70 people protested Saturday outside Government House, where Rice was meeting with Prime Minister Helen Clark.
© 2008 Associated Press
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Show AllYou go people arrest the warmonger, I just love it when the youth of today take positive action!
Peace!
Where can i make a contribution?
"I can only say that the United States has done everything that it can to end this war on terror, to live up to our international and national laws and obligations," Rice said.
This is the first time i saw or heard an official say "End" the War on Terror" rather than "win".
Could this be a slip or hint at a new direction?
A timed delay to all the Peace marches?
Probably not, but it is interesting.
The New Zealand Herald http://www.nzherald.co.nz/
reports that a powhiri http://www.korero.maori.nz/forlearners/protocols/powhiri.html
had been canceled because of the weather. Maybe the gods of the Southern hemisphere, the Global South where the majority of this planet's indigenous peoples are gaining ground (literally and figuratively), speak in the old ways.
Why are the Maori even welcoming The Warmonger, one who represents--indeed implements--the policies of an administration that has DONE absolutely nothing positive for the indigenous peoples of our planet?
High praise to the students of both Victoria U and Auckland U; and some praise too for the Wellington police who, according to the NZH, did not overreact to the students' actions: "There were tense moments when the protesters moved a police barricade on Glenfell Place, in Mount Eden, forward. Police officers stood on the other side of the barricade with hands crossed as protesters shouted "Condoleezza Rice, not very nice" and demanded to speak to a senior police officer to arrest her. A senior officer was present but did not address protesters, who then moved back to the intersection of Mountain Road and Glenfell Place." (New Zealand Herald)
I can only imagine how students would be met in this country--oh that's right, they wouldn't even be allowed in the vicinity (that is if our students even . . .)
Stay nuclear-free, New Zealand! No need to kowtow to the Empire. You have had enough of that, even as late as WWI as ANZAC fodder.
Peace
"I can only say that the United States has done everything that it can to end this war on terror, to live up to our international and national laws and obligations," Rice said.
~~~ She then went on to say that she and the Bush regime were 100% behind the plan to bring humanity to it's knees and, "We won't let up until every good thing is a crumbling pile of smoking wreckage, -no matter what the cost."
Dr Rice is a fully-fledged member of the Satanic Zombie Brigade and a paid-up ass-ociate of the Coalition to Bring Maximum Harm to Planet Earth. She has already booked her one-way ticket to Hell, and fully expects to be sitting on the 'left-hand of Diablo' for the next million years or so...
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Argentine Army Officer Gets Life Imprisonment For War Crimes
"What's this got to do with the war crimes of Condoleezza Rice?"
"Just that for discrediting a corporo-fascist-military regime there's nothing like a resounding military defeat."
"But could the Iraqi Resistance emerge victorious over the mightiest military machine that there's ever been?"
"A people united can never be defeated."
"United how?"
"Peacefully, with 25 million Iraqis taking to the streets and demanding an end to the U.S. occupation of their country."
"What can we do here at home to express our support for the Iraqi people?"
"Rise up against this war."
"And after our troops are brought home, what'll hsppen to Condoleezza Rice?"
"She goes on trial at the International Court of Criminal Justice."
"The outcome being?"
"Members of the jury, on the charge of crimes against humanity, have you arrived at a verdict?'
"Guilty as charged, your honor."
Wonderful that this gap-toothed terrorist Bushite bitch is being named for the horrible person that she is!
Another lap dog of the oligarchy.
Now that is music to the ears.
Where do we deliver her with the others---no wait, she could turn evidence for a lenient sentence----and then we could deliver the "Bosses" -----along with the Generals who participated in the war crimes.
But add the charge of liar liar----the USA has never lived up to its own "National Laws of Obligation" and has made a mockery of the "International Laws of Obligation"
Which might tend to lead one to think that the American people as a whole are "War Criminals" which is not far from the truth.
So "Condi" could just be remembered as the "sacrificial goat"------
So it could be not far from reality that if the USA is allowed to exist in its present form----someday someone may say----"Condi died for your sins"............
Good Luck America----the world is starting to realize that as a whole----all of you are dangerous......and in need of close supervision.
Very sad commentary that it is students elsewhere taking action while our homegrown educated lap up the lies and hypocrisy dished out by this administarion.
It seems clear that Bush, Cheney, Rice, and others will be hounded for the remainder of their lives by those whose humanity has not been sacrificed for profit.
Our young people are afraid.
It is not, I repeat not, necessary to put the quote mark around war criminal in the title. Rice IS A WAR CRIMINAL.
I am proud to be a kiwi, nativeborn. Ms. Rice is looking forward to going shopping after she leaves office. Ah, sorry Condi, I don't think so. I really don't think so. The times they are a-changing.
opossum, I take exception to your characterization of Rice as a "gap-toothed terrorist Bushite bitch"-- she's had some dental work done recently and the gap appears to be mostly resolved.
George Soros--Does this give you any ideas for where to invest some of your billions? If, for enough money, some people will do anything, then all that has to be done is to put a sufficient bounty on the heads of war criminals to be rid of them--or is it not that simple?
right Poet,
6000 dollar bounty for a big war criminal?
These College kids are gonna save.
I can see rich conservatives paying a bounty for every liberal scalp they get.
The tooth gap might be smaller, but the credibility gap couldn't be larger.
This bounty on Dr. (Ghengis)Condoleeza Rice... is it paid dead or alive?
Just wondering...
Peace protests by U.S. university students????
The students up at University of maryland's Frostburg State University are too busy drinking beer, eating pizza, having sex and engaging in drunken street brawls.
This does remind me a little bit of the movie Slap Shot, where Paul Newman puts a bounty on the other team's captain. These college kids should be careful, if the money is right, Blackwater might jump on it!
Hey Condi Rice!
Did you think it was nice
To try to scare us
with mushroom skies?
The smokng gun
Was the CIA note.
The one you hid
And tried not to qoute.
If young people are afraid, they've played right into the hands of the fascists. Brainwashed and trained from Day 1. I thought this was "The Home of the Brave." The Code Pink lady wasn't afraid to confront Rice face-to-face.
Good job, New Zealanders, and a big Thank You. :)
Cindy Sheehan is on the ballot. Hopefully our students will get out there to help get her elected. For the good of all.
Where do I send my check?
Okay Progressives snap out of it! As satirical street theater this is a rich,funny and rollicking good time, but let's try not to forget who started such nonsense. It was Bushco with their "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters of Osama Bin Laden and their deck of cards with the "most wanted" of the Saddam Hussein regime.
Most of the occupants of Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagrahm, Diego Garcia, and the rest of the torture Gulag either controlled by or under contract to Bushco are populated by the objects of grudges or petty political rivaliies whose turning in made a handsome profit for their betrayers.
When we seriously adopt the ways of the enemies of our liberties we then become what we are suppossed to be against and then who has "won" the supppossed "War on Terror"?
where do I mail you a check. Thank you NZ students.
It's lonely at the top.
"I can only say that the United States has done everything that it can to end this war on terror, to live up to our international and national laws and obligations," Rice said.
My jaw dropped when I read this quote. She actually believes her own bullshit.
I've spent quite a bit of time in New Zealand. It is one of the most progressive nations in the world. My friends there *don't' know anyone* in New Zealand who approves of George Bush and his criminal administration.
Bravo to the Kiwi students!!!
And bravo to the astonishing transition New Zealand has made to a proportional electoral system: Mixed Member Proportional (MMP). This Kiwi reform effort constitutes an example that every American progressive needs to study, for they shifted from a US-like (minus legalized campaign bribery) two-party system to a real five to seven party proportional legislature. The great thing about this, is that with five to seven parties, the legislature becomes both a mirror of society's diverse composition, and a microcosm of the preferred policies of the Kiwi citizenry.
Here is a link to a good summary of New Zealand's great electoral system reform effort:
http://www.elections.org.nz/study/history/printer_history-mmp.html
Anybody who tried this in the good ol' US of A would be tasered and transferred immediately to an offshore prison for daily waterboarding for, oh, 10 - 15 years or so.
Kinda makes you proud, don't it?
This is how the US media holds Condolensces Rice accountable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyxbUh2-uRo
And I thought OUR anti-war people were gutless! Uh, sorry NZ-kids, but how lame. But, at least you tried...(I guess!)
P.S......BOO!
earthian (9:08) I'm sure you're right about NZ. However it blew my mind when I learned that NZ and the US are the only two countries where drugs can be advertised on TV. Like I said it blew my mind. N.Z.??
What the Bush administration loves to do when they or their clients are criticized and protested against is to say that such criticisms and protests are a triumph of democracy. Bush says these kinds of things when Iraqis and Afghans yell "Death to America" after have loved ones destroyed by America's favorite weapons of mass destruction.
Crimes against peace, or aggression, cannot be prosecuted at the Hague (its only for crimes committed by our enemies: al-Bashir, Milosevic, ect.), so New Zealanders and Europeans have the right idea, as soon as these murderous goons land on your soil, try to have them arrested.
War crimes, what war crimes. If you believe that you'r not actually torturing a suspect, it's not really torture.
Justice is long overdue for these low-life Bushies.
Great job NZ!!!
I don't want her arrested before her bosses. They are all guilty and she does not need to be scapegoated as a woman!
I'D MUCH RATHER SEE CHENEY GUTTED LIKE THE PIG HE IS!!
It is amazing how many people on this post who claim to be peacful but vent such violence to one parson. Sad very sad, Love those who least deserve it and prey for your enemies.
NZ - I hope more folks from NZ consider posting on CD. The Maori link is great! How do you say "Take them to the Hague" in Maori?
As an Australian, let me say how sorry I am that my country is not more in line with N.Z. Instead, under Howard and now Rudd, we continue to toady to America and support its dangerous militaristic imperialism.
Those New Zealanders sure are free thinkers and have a backbone. Well done!
www.dangerouscreation.com
Dager--
I think you meant "pray" instead of "prey"--unless you are indulging an ironic sense of humor.
"Take them to the Hague" in Maori - Haere atu ki te Hague means "go away to the Hague". Thanks for all the nice things said about NZ, but I am ashamed that our so-called progressive Prime Minister Helen Clark even hosted Condaleeza Rice, Handmaiden of Torture who lies through her "teeth". These students braved a "weather bomb" to protest. Our police are itching to get tasers, see http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/ta201207.htm
there has already been a trial run.
But we do have a fine tradition of creative non-violent protest which the police mostly handle well. Recently an anti-GE protester won a courtcase against the police who peppersprayed him maliciously. But the best protest of all this year was the popping of the US spy satellite ball at Waihopai ..read about it here http://ploughshares.org.nz/original-statement/
Good. I'm looking for a new country. Where the heck is NZ, anyway? Do they admit former US citizens for residency?
It is our duty as thinkinbg human beings to hound them to the ends of the earth for their crimes against humanity....if they get away without consequences, it will just encourage the next batch of fascists.
The only way to end the cycle of abuse it to make a strong example of them...something the US congress seems unable or unwilling to undertake.
"I can only say that the United States has done everything that it can to end this war on terror, to live up to our international and national laws and obligations," Rice said.
Well apparently not 'everything.' They could have just brought the troops home. And implementing a surge contrary to the findings of a commission Bush employed (headed by James Baker), probably is not a good way to end it either.
Just a thought...
"claim to be peaceful but vent such violence to one parson."
At the risk of sounding apologetic of the NZ student protesters , where were the molotov cocktails , the thrown rocks and bricks...If there was ONE act of violence as you say , do you think that AP would have missed a chance to broadcast the photos ?
From your reactionary point of view you would have cast Dietrich Bonhoeffer as a "venter of violence to one person(Adolf Hitler). Sadly , he was the only "venter of violence to one person" and just before the end of Hitler and the Third Reich , in a act of "bold" defiance Hitler had DB hung very publicly by piano wire which obviously was just punishment for your interpretation of violence
Murder, He Wrote.
More can be done here in this vibrant democracy of the USA.
Charlie Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi charges Bush with murder in his new book called "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder". In it, he makes a legal case against Bush that can be brought by any prosecutor in any district where a US soldier had been killed in Iraq.
His record of murder prosecution is good, 21 convictions, no losses.
See Bugliosi's interview on DemocracyNow.org
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/13/citing_iraq_war_renowned_attorney_vincent
curmudgeon, well said. How atypical of the US zombie-state that our citzenry don't speak truth to power (except for a few people scattered about on blogs such as CD, etc.), but in foreign countries the people are making a statement about what they think of US hegemony and war crimes. Although this is mostly due to our media being completely in bed with the government, and spewing only propaganda, when they opt to spew anything at all. What do you expect from a nation who's top news is focused on the latest Britney meltdown and celebrity bullshit, and the majority of its citizens don't even know - let alone care - that their own government is guilty of the most heinous war crimes in the history of the planet?
Good for you, Australian youth. If only you had more power and louder voices.....
Speak truth to power. That always makes me laugh. Power knows the truth. It always has and it always will.