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'People Are Looking For Roots'
It's Saturday morning and the line of BMWs and Smart cars idling for a parking space at Toronto's Brick Works Farmers Market snakes beyond the native plantings by the gate and onto the highway. Inside, under shelter of an ivy-covered former brick factory, Rosedale regulars, accessorized with straw market baskets, make the rounds of (local, organic and artisanal) farmers, smiling at bundles of glistening baby beets and clucking over earth-encrusted carrots as if they were adorable infants in a pram.
It is both too precious and a blissful utopian vision. A poultry supplier's chalkboard sign features a child's portrait of a chicken so charmingly accurate he must live on a farm. At nearby Evelyn's Crackers, the young proprietor offers that his wife makes the crackers herself from a family recipe and that they are named after their small daughter, Evelyn. In the queue for Brick Oven Amish Baking, many clutch wildflower bouquets (assembled onsite, $15 from Roseville Meadow farms) or sniff fresh-cut bunches of lavender from Niagara Lavender farm.
As at the many farmer's markets rising like wildflowers through concrete in urban centres across North America, enthusiasm runs high. My own tote spilling over with irresistibly crisp zucchini and dewy fresh basil, I bump into society stylista Ann Apor and her shopping columnist daughter Jane, who are chowing down on enormous sandwiches of (local, artisanal) Monforte goat cheese and (organic-fed, nitrate-free) bacon on Mennonite buns. "You have got to try this!" Apor enthuses. "It's the best thing I've ever eaten!"
Consider the new agrarians. From the Victorian farm-kitchen-themed Cowbell restaurant in Toronto (where we are cheerfully informed by our waiter that the animals featured on the menu "lived happy lives") to the rough-hewn chic of farm-tool flatware and farm-to-fork menus at parties and hot restaurants to this month's New York Times magazine's Style feature on the worn, calloused beauty of Women who Work the Land, there is a new and holistic Back to the Farm style movement in full swing - and it couldn't come at a more curious time.
History has observed romantic back-to-the-earth movements before, particularly in eras of tumultuous change, such as the Industrial Revolution (which wrought Utopian arts and crafts communities founded along the principles of Ruskin and Morris) or more recently in the 1970s, with the Whole Earth, hippie movement.
With the combined forces of globalization and urbanization at an all-time high, however, we have arguably never in human history been so detached from the local and the rural. Our everyday lives are dominated by the digital, the wireless, the commercially packaged and the virtual. And yet, perhaps as a result, we have never been so needful of that sense of connection with the earth that farming represents.
This nostalgia for what we feel we've lost is currently being expressed in every aspect of our lifestyles, from the green, organic slow food and locavore movements to the way we are decorating our homes (rustic and handmade), the clothes we are wearing (hemp, linen, granny and prospector looks), the music we're listening to (acoustic folk, as documented by Annie Leibowitz's photo spread on the new guitar heroes in Vanity Fair) and the books we are reading (farm memoirs and gardening how-tos).
Over rough-hewn dinner tables laden with fresh market fare, we debate the merits of "heritage" breeds of livestock and brag of buying shares in luxury pork. Spurred on by TV chefs such as Jamie Oliver, who champion "source" eating, we're growing heirloom lettuces on our roof decks and heritage tomatoes on our windowsills, driving this year's sales of old-time vegetable seeds to record levels.
For the cognoscenti, it is becoming as fashionable to flock to weekend workshops on beekeeping and cheese making as it has been to attend workshops on honey and cheese appreciation. In Oakland, Calif., a daughter of Berkeley activists, K. Ruby, who lives off a tiny vegetable garden and beehive wedged in between apartment buildings, has created the Institute of Urban Homesteading to share her tricks with like-minded others. In Toronto, the two hippest boutique hotels are host to farm-style initiatives: the Gladstone hosts seasonal Harvest Wednesday dinners, while the Drake is growing its own salad greens in an onsite "urban garden."
At the same time, a growing number of artists and activists such as novelist Barbara Kingsolver are (once again) fleeing the troubled city, taking up farming and then writing about their adventures (Kingsolver's best-selling Animal, Vegetable, Miracle: A Year of Food Life documents her family's struggle to live entirely off their own avails). Toronto writer and satirist Geoff Heinricks was ahead of the curve with his move to Ontario's Prince Edward County to found a winery 12 years ago, a back-to-the-land effort chronicled in his 2005 book A Fool and Forty Acres.
"You can go all Jungian about it and suggest that there is something out there in the collective unconscious or zeitgeist," says Heinricks. "But it's just becoming obvious for a number of reasons, from the fuel situation to the current global food shortage, that the 3,000-mile Caesar salad is unsustainable, both as a way to live and eat."
More fundamental is a general and widespread sense of insecurity. "From the latest economic news to the war on terror," he says, "we are clearly living in very tenuous times. People know now that their jobs, everything, could simply disappear."
For Heinricks, what the Back to the Farm movement feeds is a yearning for stability. "People are looking for roots," he says. Yet even he admits that "goat cheese won't save the world."
No, it won't, but the way that we have come to appreciate goat cheese has radically altered our conception of what the Farm is all about.
At the root of the movement is the New Age self-help idea of mindfulness. As former River Café chef and bestselling author Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall urges in his manifesto The River Cottage Meat Book, that awareness should include the animals we eat. "Have they lived well? Have they been fed on safe, appropriate foods? Have they been cared for by someone who respects them and enjoys their contact with them? Are you sure?" The only way to really know for certain is for us to get back in touch with production - the farm - itself. Which, for most of us not willing to chuck it all and go back to the land, transforms grocery shopping into a search for connection and meaningful experience.
What's odd is that, to satisfy this, the farm must become a boutique - ideally one expressing a back-to-nature authenticity and changing-the-world, one-goat-cheese-at-a-time intent.
Much as we can celebrate the victory of quality over quantity and artisanal over commercial, the raw truth is that the farm we so desperately want to get back to is one that never quite existed. As the hyper-stimulated consumers that we are, we won't let a beet just be a beet any more. It might have grown in the dirt, been fed by the sun and watered by the rain, but for us shoppers at the Brick Works, it's an emblem of now unattainable simplicity.
*****
Rural redux
Essential Reads
Back to the Soil - Or, From Tenement House to Farm Colony, Bradley Gilman (LC Page & Co, 1901, reprinted 2007)
Living the Good Life, Helen and Scott Nearing (1954)
The Unsettling of America: Culture & Agriculture, Wendell Berry (Sierra Club, 1977)
A Fool and 40 Acres, Geoff Heinricks (M&S, 2005)
Animal, Vegetable, Miracle: A Year of Food Life, Barbara Kingsolver, Camille Kingsolver and Steven L. Hopp (Kindle, 2007)
Plenty: One Man, One Woman and a Raucous Year of Eating Locally, Alisa Smith and J.B. MacKinnon (Harmony, 2007)
Slow Food Nation: Why Our Food Should be Good, Clean & Fair, Carlo Patrini (Rizzoli, 2007) Farmer John's Cookbook: The Real Dirt on Vegetables, John Peterson (Gibbs Smith, 2006)
FARM STYLE
Amy Butler's Midwest Modern: A Fresh Design Spirit for the Modern Lifestyle, Amy Butler (Stewart, Tabori & Chang, 2007)
Farm Houses: The New Style, Neill Heath (Collins, 2006)
Urban Country Style, Nancy Gent, Elizabeth Betts Hickman (Gibbs Smith, 2007)
NEW AGRARIAN PLAYLIST
Smokey Rolls Down Thunder Canyon, Devendra Banhart
New Moon, Elliott Smith
Sky Blue Sky, Wilco
The Shepherd's Dog, Iron and Wine
Till the Sun Turns Black, Ray Lamontagne
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Show AllEverybody reading this: GO VEGAN! Stop the senseless murders of animals! Be ethical, healthy, kind, and wise! GO VEGAN!
Everybody reading this: GO VEGAN! Stop the senseless murders of animals! Be ethical, healthy, kind, and wise! GO VEGAN!
Everybody reading this: GO VEGAN! Stop the senseless murders of animals! Be ethical, healthy, kind, and wise! GO VEGAN!
Actually, "Going Vegan" is a direct contradiction of Human evolution. Human beings are "omnivores", and to make "Vegetarians" of them is simply one more "nod" in the direction of another "failed religion(s)" (Hindu/Buddhist) move to control others. It should be noted that the Native People of the world can show those who are far removed from those "roots", how to find them, again.
The "senseless murders of animals" only occurs when the omnivores need for meat is brought to the industrial level, instead of the hunter gatherers/harmonious agrarian ability to live in harmony with the animals they consume.
Many of us that are Native People still raise our own food, meat and subsistant hunt to bring the needed nutrients into our bodies, while we observe the natural relationship we have with our Grand Mother the Earth* (Nature).
I am reminded of a story of when I was a child. We had a family friend visit us who lived in the city. When we sat down to dinner, one of my brothers asked my mother---"what are we having tonight" to which my mother replied, a "beef roast"---when my brother asked "who" my mother gave the name of the calf we had raised in a pen behind the barn for that purpose. One of the children who was our guest said with shock in her voice" you eat the animals you know", to which my brother answered "we don't eat anybody we don't know"...............
In fact I had tanned the hide of the calf and given to a cousin for a birthday gift---we used everything but the "mooooo", on not only the beef, but all of the other animals as well. Some people would be surprised at how comforting it is to eat the animals you have raised, known since they were babies, and then slaughtered with kindness and respect to consume and utilize to the fullest---but only those who have never experienced it.
Religions of the world NEED to replace the relationship humans have with nature, so that they can control those humans---"God needs some money; here's my address". I have studied comparative religion and they all share that one fact.
Human beings are PART OF NATURE, NOT ABOVE IT, NOT AN ADENDUM, NOT THE EXCEPTION......
This has led the modern world to the point where the planet is reacting to the illusion of domination of the Human mindset. Those reactions being reflected in the current weather patterns moving to the extreme AND are just the begining.
Those of us who are able to live in harmony will most likely survive, those who are not will not---it really is that simple folks.
God or the Gods are not coming back (simply because they never were here in the first place) and humankind will be the only answer to their OWN problems. When they "relearn" the ability to live in harmony with the environment, they may just be able to transfer that knowledge to living in harmony with each other.
So get back to your "roots", eat all of the fresh produce, and meats, and fish that you can find. Grow as much of it as you are able, then buy, or trade, or sell for the rest. Instead of giving "thanks or grace" at the table, think about where the food came from ---its origins-----"Else the Cow"---but most importantly OUR GRANDMOTHER THE EARTH *
* My tribe refers to "our grandmother, the Earth" because to use the term "mother" tends to make the user a bit arrogant. This is not a religion, but a spiritual belief that transcends any religion that has ever been invented by human beings. Religion tends to make the practitioner arrogant (or if you are a christian, Jew, or Muslim VERY arrogant) because religion tends to take Human beings away from their origins----that is take them away from their nature-----which is too far away from "our Grandmother the Earth"----and that has caused so many problems one would think that human beings would have learned that lesson after all of this time-------
The one sure move in the right direction will be the enormous task of forgetting RELIGIONS----they have been the core of the problem from the begining, and they are hampering the recovery from the damage they have brought.
But that is another story------
P.S. On the subject of the consumption of milk, or any milk products----please list the name of the mammalian species that consumes milk ---in any form----after being weaned by the mother? Why would human beings be exempt from the natural order----except to themselves to arrogantly think that they are "special".......which they have contradicted all throughout history.
Simplicity by definition is never "unattainable".
Hey nativeson,
You have not e-mailed me yet you just keep sending that spam why?
Nothing exists.
Sorry for the repeated posts earlier; my computer was acting up this morning & misbehaving.
Going vegan is easy, worthwhile, and will help everyone and everything on our planet. I hope more and more people will join us and give up harming animals once and for all.
"Obesity continued to creep up in the United States last year and now affects more than one in four US adults, a US government report showed Friday."
People may be "looking for roots," but we Americans only want them deep-fried and topped with powdered sugar.
Reminds me-have to get down to our Saturday Farmers Market.
Native Son, I very much enjoyed your post, and have copied it for my folder on "must-read-again" material.
Warm wishes,
Adele
We are omnivores. We should go vegan because there are too many people to feed in a world with limited space and meat takes more room to produce.
We could ameliorate the problem by eating insects. If YOU ate insects that is.
Native Son -- I concur; a fine post, worthy of reading and rereading. We try, as best we can, to live this way in the place we find ourselves at this point in our lives. Raising animals is out of our reach and anyway we are trying to be vegetarians because I cannot bear to kill a sentient creature. I thank my vegetables and fruits when I take them from our gardens. One day my body will be wormfood and the great cycle of life will go around once more. I keep a worm composting farm to compost scraps; nothing is wasted. It takes a little time to set up but once it's running it practically takes care of itself. And we're right in the middle of suburbia. Solar panels and the whole nine yards. It is worth doing.
To Rich Griffin: Right on! (as usual)
To NativeSon (and AdeleTheCzech): We are NOT, by nature, omnivores!
I repeat: WE ARE NOT OMNIVORES! WE ARE HERBIVORES!
May I direct you to "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating" by Milton R. Mills, MD. A partial list of anatomical constructs that clearly indicate humans are herbivores include:
facial muscles (well-developed v. reduced to allow a wide mouth gape);
jaw type (expanded angle);
jaw joint location (above the molar plane);
jaw motion (no shearing, good side-to-side and front-to-back);
major jaw muscles (masseter and pterygoids v. temporalis);
mouth opening v. head size (small);
incisors (broad, flattened and spade shaped v. short and pointed);
canines (short and blunted);
molars (flattened with nodular cusps v. blade-shaped);
chewing (extensive v. none or simple crushing);
saliva (carbohydrate digesting enzymes);
stomach acidity (pH4 to 5 w/food present, exactly as an herbivore)
(carnivores and omnivores have a pH of 1 or less with food present);
stomach capacity (21-27% of total volume of digestive tract v. 60-70% as found in carnivores and omnivores);
length of small intestine (10-11 times body length v. 3 to 6 times);
colon (long, sacculated v. simple, short and smooth);
liver (we cannot detoxify vitamin A - carnivores and omnivores can);
kidney (moderately concentrated urine v. extremely concentrated);
nails (flattened v. sharp claws);
In all of these (as well as other) features humans have evolved as herbivores. Culturally, well that's a different matter.
So even if you CAN tolerate meat and dairy and fish, I would think that your empathy and compassion for other living things (and the antipathy you apparently have for arrogance - the earth as "grandmother" - should envelop a belief that no one species is more important than another) should dictate to your conscience that humans have no right to use other sentient beings for our amusement, our food, or our labor.
NativeSon
Human beings are not omnivores by nature we are frugivores.
July 27 is plant a tree day I say plant a fruit tree save the planet.
Cherimoya,
Love Peace and Happiness,
To Kgary, you have a wonderful attitude, but your source of information shows that you as well as Rich Griffin and other Vegans are somewhat off on your information but that is actually well within the stratosphere here on the planet Earth. Hopefully, you will never be hungry enough to "KNOW the truth".
Physiologically however, herbivores are by necessity "ungulates" as with Bovine, Goats Sheep etc. Their chambered intestinal tracts are necessary for the processing of their food intake and itself is older than humanity.
If Vegans were to be uprooted from their life styles and transplanted into a setting where they were required to "forage", as well as run from the predators, fight for the available food, fight for the right to reproduce, and even fight for just a place to sleep for awhile before they started the process anew, they would eat what they kill, or what other killers kill, or the carcass of what died yesterday or the day before and the other scavengers either left, or YOU RAN OFF from the carcass. You would eat insects, lizards, frogs and anything else that moved, crawled, slithered, swam, flew or just sat still hoping you would miss it. To deny anything else is to deny the natural history; AND BECOME A SLAVE TO A FAILED RELIGIOUS BELIEF ------VEGANS EVOLVED FROM HINDUISM---AND THERE SYSTEM IS A DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO REALITY.......HUMNAN BEINGS ARE OMNIVIORES
And if you really want to know the truth---and please believe me I have been this hungry, in military training for survival escape tactics over thirty years ago----human beings can eat and live off just about anything they need to if they remain omnivores---------they only fool themselves, otherwise.
I am reminded of a story of a White Woman who's family moved into the farm owned by Cherokee people in Georgia in 1836. She wrote in her "journal" that the forced removal of those people was justified in many ways---with a short note that they also ate "Dogs"--- In 1864, when her farm had been overrun by Yankees in Sherman's march, the Union Army left nothing behind except dogs---that is dogs that hid well ---she wrote in her journal that "Dog was very tasty if stewed long enough, but rather greasy".......
Actually milk fed puppy is very good to eat.
And if things were to get bad enough, I could eat a Vegan, who starved to death in denial.
I am a survivor, my ancestors ancestors ancestors were survivors-----we are older than the VEGANS-----
We're limited omnivores: about 4% meat is what chimps and humans require for health.
The list above is interesting however, we do have forward facing eyes and canines which were not mentioned.
I agree it's a comedown, but I never believed we were gods, anyway.
the "roots" movement ought to stick with roots and not animals.
I don't see how the idea of "mindfulness" that Von Hahn finds at the heart of the movement is compatible with killing animals.
how is there mindfulness in this:
"(where we are cheerfully informed by our waiter that the animals featured on the menu "lived happy lives")"? why is it that we will grant that animals want a happy life, but we won't grant that they don't want to be killed whenever we get hungry enough to end their "happiness" (if it really is such)?
hey NativeSon -- why do you discredit Hinduism? what is so valuable about your way of doing things except that its the way things have been done? the age of some practices does not authorize it as legitimate ethical/sustainable practice, I think. why not choose what is best for us now (as ACC suggests) based on the ethical imperatives facing us?
and if survival is your baseline, it is perfectly easy to survive as a vegan -- in fact it might amp up the tough guy/gal attitude that seems to be a part of that survival ethos if you got by on just nuts and berries.
Dear native son,
Why do you deride Buddhism, which, in no way tries to control others - merely provide a more easily understood path to wisdom, happiness and the happiness of other sentient beings by tapping some deep truths about human nature.
They aren't all vegetarians - where vegetarianism is impossible because of climate, like the Tibetan plateau, they eat meat.
And it is a bit disconcerting to see such arrogance of other cultures and religions coming from a native American...
NativeSon--I am reminded of the story of an anthropologist who was studying an indigenous tribe in South America. They were cannibals and invited him to dinner. Not wanting to offend them, he indulged. "It tasted quite like chicken," he remarked.
USAn--
no arrogance----
Merely an observation about ALL religions. I studied them, on a comparative basis; and coming from a Missionary Family, who ministered to there own people---from one of the Christian Denominations, I have observed ALL of them to be FAILED----the Buddhist tradition being most likely the least intrusive.
However, since YOU mentioned the Tibetan Buddhists, please answer this question that has puzzled ME for some time now. If the Dali Lama is the multiple re-incarnation, that has been charted and recognized for more than 100 reincarnations as the one who will lead others to "enlightenment" why has he never re-incarnated as a WOMAN?
From my own personal experience as an observer of "WOMEN" (more than one woman) I can testify that it takes tremendous strength to BE a woman, how much more would it take to CHOOSE TO RE-INCARNATE AS A WOMAN------the person (and for most religions the "man" that could answer that question would win me over---then he might , maybe, perhaps, if he's lucky----get my attention for MY choice as a
spiritual "leader"..............
ALL Religions fail in one way or another---some more than others---but all FAIL.
The fact that so many people seem to be "ready to defend" their "religion against any" is a direct indication to me that THEY may be somewhat suspicious. And in the final analysis, if lets say YOU were the only person on the planet who believed in the Buddha--or the Dali Lama--or Jesus--or Mohammad---or Santa Claus----or Mickey Mouse--would it truly matter if anyone else did?
One Native American does not speak for any others---I DO NOT TAKE THIS UPON MYSSELF---NOR DO I RECOGNIZE IT ABOUT ANYONE ELSE----
I ONLY SPEAK FOR ME------my Tribal name is Husband of Moonlight.
Thank for your time..
P.S.
I heard the one about the Anthropologist as well and it was amusing-----
Big Raven
I have no email to reach you at-----?
And please if I offended anyone on the remarks on religion----forgive me---or forget me----or just go on with life as you see fit to live it-----we are all stuck here on this tiny blue planet anyway-----and we ain't getting out of here alive.
Thanks for your time
Here's hoping NativeSon gets eaten by cannibals.
Thank you, Native Son, you are illuminating.
Here is the part I do not get: Often, at Common Dreams, a dichotomy exists between people who are vegans, vegetarians and meat eaters. Why? This is not a "one size fits all" world. I fully understand the allure of a vegan or vegitarian lifestyle. It feels good to not have your belly feel like a rock (after eating meat). But it is not for everyone.
I tried it for about 11 months. At first it felt great. Then, I was getting more and more sickish. I was eating too many carbs. I was getting insulin resistant. I had to quit.
I find buffalo nourishing but not moose meat and i always wondered why, then i read on a rather out-there site that the Buffalo kingdom had an agreement with humans that the Buffalo would nourish the humans so long as the humans respected the Buffalo. That made sense to me, and it seems that there is a deeper truth which animals know but humans have forgotten -- we, our essence, are not are bodies, our bodies are a cloak which we wear in this frequency, and if a kingdom such as the Buffalo has made an agreement to provide that cloak for our nourishment, they will do so . . .
www.calltoascend.org
Seems to me that virtually everyone mentioned in the above article is upper-middle class or higher. I'd like to buy a big vineyard in California too. But right now I'm a little too busy trying to pay the rent and buy Ramen noodles. I'd like to grow vegetables out back but the groundhogs or the deer will just eat 'em again.
Hey, my dog has lived a good life and I've respected him and fed him safe, appropriate food...does this mean I should shoot him and eat him?
No, Rich Griffin. I am born an omnivore, as a human. I wouldn't dream of going vegan. It would not be in keeping with the way nature designed humans to function.
If we were made to eat vegan, we wouldn't run up mineral and vitamine deficits if we do. And our teeth would look different.
Apart from that, I am a gourmet and vegan is just as boring as hell. It's for people for whom food is something you just have to do in order not to starve. It leaves out thousands of tastes and textures that please the palate.
It's rather a question of where your food comes from and not whether you eat anything which comes from an animal. There's nothing wrong with eating animals which have been caught in the wild, i.e. game. There's nothing wrong about sheep cheese.
It's the meat factories plus this wanting to have meat constantly, that's the problem.
Plus: I view industrial agriculture as just as huge a problem as eating meat and animal products - and a vegan is allowed to eat the crops of this rape of nature!
miftin-
are you being a defeatist? finding all the reasons it can't possibly work for you? You can grow fresh herbs indoors; tomatoes in pots on your porch. Try by asking what you CAN do, and how.. rather than reasons why nothing works.
Aren't farmers markets just precious?
NATIVE SON: I very much agree that each religion brings a unique truth to the table, but none can speak for all truth, and each has its blindspot.
Most excellent point about the lack of female representation in Buddhism. I purchased a book a decade or so ago (I can't find it, to relate its title) that was an examination of the absence of women "saints" in every religion. The patriarchal emphasis on the idea of Creator as a male essence has crippled the human race. I often share the analogy of DNA being itself the marriage of both genetic imprints, that our brains are designed with two hemispheric perspectives interlocking, that atoms are composed of negatively charged electrons spinning around a positively charged nucleus. Magnetism is this dance of yin and yang, and there is no life without the dance. As in it takes 2 (genders) to tango. With worship allotted to only HALF this Divine sum, mankind has essentially navigated with one oar in the water and circled redundantly. The voice of the Divine feminine, which is unlike the MARS orientation of self, more about finding connections to others and working peaceful (rather than aggressive) strategies is imperative for mankind at this point in its evolution. Or evolution may well come to a halt...
What is the curious need we humans have to think we're right, to defend, and to disparage others who believe something other that we do? The fact is there's intelligence functioning everywhere, on every level, in every culture, in everybody, in every body. Sure there are degrees, and sure there are misunderstandings, or more acurately - knowledge in process. There are things everybody here says that"resonate" with different ones of us and things that don't. So? It's a personal thing and constantly under reassessment if you're watching. Because somebody wears flip flops are they a flipflopper? I was a vegan many years, and it was an enlightening search/study. It started out as a spiritual thing along the lines of ahimsa, harmlessness, and developed over time into a strong suspicion that this was in fact, the way we were supposed to eat. Because of the way I felt in my body, not because of some liturgy or agenda. This was in the day when such persnickityness was a big nuisance if not an outright pain in the ass to waiters and store clerks. It was a creative endeavor, not only in just finding the foods that actually qualified, but in learning to put then together in interesting complementary ways. There's lore in it, to be discovered, and yes, invented. It's a worthy enterprise, like quiltmaking might be, or taking up running or, anything really. There's discovery in any of it and you won't be the same as if you would if you hadn't tried it.
It's still difficult to be a true vegan, but easier today than it used to be. I eventually gave it up but not really. I was traveling in Latin America for an extended time, lots of time near the ocean. People took us in to their homes and their families, fed us. It became in time, unfair in my judgement to burden them with this. So I opened the door to eggs and cheese, and fish, and over time, to everything. I always though I'd go back but never did. Except! when I'm sick, in which case I go right back to it until I begin to feel right. It's not by religion, but more by rote, not unlike when you slip on the ice and your arms fly out in quest of balance. Nobody's arms fly out the same way, but there is intelligence functioning no matter how you fling em, no matter what you think. Of course there are ones of us that don't know how to fall, mainly because fear/panic runs so deep as to override instincts, but that's another matter. For someone who's never made a run at being a vegan to call vegans stupid or some such is just stupid. Ignorant.
I'm not a vegan but I played one in real life 12 years. I eat anything, though I do discriminate. Buffalo works better in my body than beef by a long shot, but the buffalo of today it must be said, is not by any means the buffalo that once shook and ate the wild grasses of the plains. When I get sick I go back to being a vegan like a magnet, like flaying my arms on ice. If I get to choose between wild caught fish or farm raised I choose wild caught. It's not religion or science, call it instinct, and if I hadn't taken myself off the beaten path a time or two, my instincts would be... well, let's just say less informed.
We ought to take notice in ourselves of when we are arguing for what we believe because we want it to be true and no other reason.
Well now I'm being called a name. "Defeatist" no less. Hey kiddo--if you want to be a farmer, why don't you do like our local guy, who works five acres year in and year out, and drives a school bus part time and lives in a 1900 crumbling farmhouse and drives a very old Ford pick up and rides a 1950s tractor and works his ass off year after year and what he doesn't use to feed his family he sells alongside the road in order to get enough money to put gas in his truck and probably pay his car insurance. That's farming. Growing a few tomatoes on your front porch and feeling good about yourself while going off to work in the system isn't exactly "living a sustainable lifestyle" regardless of your college degrees and condescending yuppie attitude. My ancestors were all Virginia farmers, small scale farmers, dating back to the Revolutionary War. Growing a few fresh herbs on your window sill sounds real cute and fresh tomatoes and peppers taste real good for about a month until you run out of them. I've personally seen the urban gardens in Havana and been out into the Cuban country side and experienced real farm life for a short time in western Cuba. THEY RIDE AROUND ON HORSES. Do you ride around on a horse?
miftin-
why are you angry?
Farm boy from MT Olivet KY for 35 years. Its not as romantic as you folks would think. Anyone willing to cut hay in 93 heat with 90% humidity please feel free to give me a ring. I need the help - most folks have left for easier and more $ rewarding work in Cincy or L'ville. Everyone seems to have a romantic vision of life on the farm - well from the coast of Ca to the lowlands of the delta it aint no Curiour and Ives painting. Sounds like a lot of city folks in air conditioned apartments typing on the computer about the wonderful lives of farmers. Man nothing pisses me off mkore than hear the bull of naive city folks and there love affair with the AMERICAN FARMER
How about you folks leave us alone. Heres the deal - we will keep ya fat and dumb and happy in return LEAVE US ALONE. no more organic bull, no more idiolizing the farmer no more buying up our farm land and knocking down our shack houses to get a nice view of once productive land. GO AWAY LEAVE MY FAMILY ALONE. let me do what we know how to do - FEED THE WORLD. Next time your in Robertson Co. KY come and give me a ring - then bend down on your knees and kiss my sweaty saddle sore rump you fat know it all jerks.
my comment wasn't about fat yuppy suburbanites, nor am I one. I live in VT on 10 acres. horses garden etc. the point was about being pro-active and not looking for excuses not to take any personal action. but boy- it is interesting to see how ANGRY people are ready to get.. and quickly. hence the reason we don't problem solve in this country. Everyone is too quick to take offense, point fingers, blame and get downright mean.. even the left, progressive.. etc etc..
Most of the farmer's market buyers around here are upper middle class right-wingers who drive SUVs and BMWs and work as bankers who lend money to small scale farmers at extremely high rates then foreclose on them. On their way home from the farmer's market they stop at Martin's corporate supermarket and load up on pesto sauce and organic pasta. The local newspaper doesn't even advertise the farmer's market because they want to keep it a cute, upper-middle class affair for the doctors and lawyers. And there wouldn't be enough fresh produce to go around to the upper middle classers if "everyone including the rabble" came there.
this is why you are angry...? just looking for clarification here.. btw- where is " here".... although what you describe could be anywhere USA...
I don't have to answer to you. This article defines "people" as upper-middle class Jews.
you're too funny
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NativeSon is right and I never thought about that same question about the Dali Lama before either. It seems rather sexist when looking at it from that perspective. I also have been
aware of how difficult it is to be a woman, and I am amazed at the contributions woman make every day, most often for little or no return. If it were left to men, we would have become extinct long ago.
As far as "people looking for roots" I small area of soil can produce a very large quantity of food.
As far as fresh produce is concerned I have seen in many urban areas hot house production on roof tops, vacant lots, and many other places.
People could either form nonprofit horticulture societies dedicated to the production of fresh produce and sell the production even before harvest. Or they could hire the same out to educational institutions in their own areas and still expect the same results.
The legal community could be solicited to use their skills in the formation of these endeavors offering their billing time as donations to nonprofit organizations receiving the tax deductions; or take the equivillant in produce or a combination of both.
The difference is that this would be for people to enjoy the quality of their own time and efforts with the quality and freshness of food that they produced in this manner.
I love to walk out into my own vegetable patch and eat my tomatoes and other produce right there. It is always fun to bring foods I have produced to my friends and many relatives.
The thing to keep in mind is that human beings are capable of amazing cooperation when they have a common goal.
Talk about sweeping generalizations. Are any of your many relatives men? Well, according to an "intelligent" female ordained minister I know: "All we women need is 600 men in a cage for stud services."
If it weren't for men going out into the woods and bringing you red meat for your iron deficiencies, this particular species wouldn't have made it past 175,000 BC let alone into the curiously-refreshing upper middle class fiefdoms of Common Dreams articles.
WOW!
rock on Gug!
do you know how many plants are rich in iron?
In fact, traditionally, horticultural cultures evolved to supplement hunting..
in fact it is quite the other way around, anthropologically speaking. Were it not for foraging/ horticulaturalism, plants... the human species would not have survived, as early hunting was sketchy at best and often times a tribe would go long periods without fresh meat.
and traditionally, meaning even in feudal times.. people kept small gardens that supplemented what was grown on larger plots. During the communist regime, the small family plots yielded more than the communal plots. The point is- we should be taking, even in small amounts, responsibility for where our food comes from, and appreciating what goes into producing it- whether that be someones saddle sore backside ( puhh-llleeaeze).. or the " illegal" immigrant labourer.. or the underpaid 12 year old in nicaraugua. And you can't understand it or appreciate it, if you haven't done it yourself.
I've bailed hay under a hot afternoon sun in high humidity. And in case anyone misses the point, I'm all for local food production and have been for decades. You don't have to be an upper middle class Jew to understand the value of eating locally. But apparently you do have to be an upper middle class Jew to make it fashionable.
how the hell did jews get into the conversation. What the hell is everyones facination about jews. What is going on here. This is bizare - i'm talking twilight zone weird. Do jews only eat organic food? What the hell is organic - just becuase the govt makes that law as to what organic is do we have to accept that law. My cattle are pasture fed until I send leroy lemenoux to take them away. I don;t get all this shit you intelectuals talk about. Its nuts. Go farm for a living and then you will discover what the hell organic is and where your food comes from. Jews don't eat pork because there dirty - well so are the chikens in my yard ttin in their own crap.
All I'm saying, farmer Marc, is that certain segments in US and (apparently) Canadian society, having heard about the food scares from China, etc...are suddenly jumping on a 40 yr-old "eat local" band-wagon and acting as though they just invented it. These are usually the very same people who spent the past twenty years buying up family farms and turning them into sub-divisons, or at least investing in companies that do so. I can think of no greater example of hypocrisy.
Ya know, a freind told me about this site. and since I was done with chores thought I'd try it out. I have been insulted and ridiculed by folks I though beleived in the same things I thougt. I am a lifelong KY democrat - the only one in MY olivet KY for that matter. If you folks think your going to make the changes that all dems want my advice is to include FDR dems like me rather than dump on us. In the end I need you as much as you need me. I'm going to give this site a break - not sure if were on the same page. Best of luck to you all. Good night and God Bless.