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Savage Stands by Autism Remarks
NEW YORK - Michael Savage, the incendiary radio host who last week characterized nearly every child with autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out," said in a telephone interview on Monday that he stood by his remarks and had no intention of apologizing to those advocates and parents who have called for his firing over the matter.
"My main point remains true," Mr. Savage, whose radio audience ranks in size behind only those of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, said in the interview. "It is an overdiagnosed medical condition. In my readings, there is no definitive medical diagnosis for autism."
On the July 16 installment of his program, which is broadcast every weekday, Mr. Savage suggested that "99 percent of the cases" of autism were a result of lax parenting. He told his audience: "They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.' " Among the other admonitions he felt children with autism should be hearing, he said, were: " 'Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' "
Asked Monday if he actually believed that 99 out of every 100 cases of autism were misdiagnosed, Mr. Savage conceded that figure was "a little high." He added, "It was hyperbole."
But he said he was proud to have prodded discussion on the subject, and planned to give over his entire show on Monday - broadcast live from Northern California from 3 to 6 p.m., Pacific time - to parents and other callers who wished to disagree with him and to educate him.
While Mr. Savage's program is heard on more than 350 stations nationally, his comments on autism were widely disseminated via e-mail on Friday by Media Matters for America, an advocacy group that dedicates itself, at least in part, to "correcting conservative misinformation in the media."
Some critics were not inclined to wait until Monday's edition of Mr. Savage's show, "The Savage Nation," to register their disagreement with him.
Late Monday afternoon, Aflac, the insurance company, announced it was withdrawing all advertising from Mr. Savage's show. "We understand that radio hosts pick on any number of targets," Laura Kane, a company spokeswoman, said in a statement, before adding that Aflac considered "his recent comments about autistic children to be both inappropriate and insensitive."
In New York City, Autism United, a coalition of organizations that advocate on behalf of children with autism and provide services to them, staged a protest Monday outside the studios of WOR (710 AM), which carries Mr. Savage's program weeknights from 6 to 9 p.m., Eastern time.
"He characterizes children with autism who are very, very ill - disabled children - as essentially bad kids; the only thing wrong with them is they have parents who don't discipline them," said John Gilmore, executive director of Autism United and the father of an 8-year-old with a diagnosis of autism. "That completely misrepresents what is going on with children with autism."
"Basically, what he's doing is parroting what used to be said about autism 40 years ago, back in the heyday of Freudian analysis," Mr. Gilmore added. "It was blamed on bad parenting. There wasn't a shred of evidence to support that."
Paul Siebold, a spokesman for WOR, said in an e-mail statement: "The views expressed by Michael Savage are his views and are not those of WOR Radio. We regret any consternation that his remarks may have caused to our listeners."
Mark Masters, the chief executive of Talk Radio Network, which syndicates Mr. Savage's program and which extended his contract in February, did not respond to several messages left at his office Monday morning.
Catherine Lord, an expert on autism who is a visiting professor in the child study center at New York University, said that beneath Mr. Savage's overheated rhetoric was a kernel of truth: that some children are saddled with an autism diagnosis by default, when they seem to fit in no other category. But far more often, she said, children who have autism are given a misdiagnosis of having something else. And she said she feared that Mr. Savage's ill-informed comments could wind up being harmful.
"Any tendency to blame the children or to think they're just being bratty if they misbehave perpetuates the myth that autism isn't a learning disability," she said. "It's a neurobiological condition, just like epilepsy or another medical condition like diabetes or a heart condition. It would be like blaming the child with a heart condition for not being able to exercise."
© 2008 The New York Times
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Show AllIt would appears as if Savage is getting close to contract renewal time and needs to generate publicity outside of "normal" audience to gain leverage. After all, he does have Scumbaugh's $400 million figure as a goal to aim for.
Nate, You hit the nail perfect - now let not add any more zeros to this load of crap's wallet.
"My main point remains true," Mr. Savage, a known 'tard whose ass ranks in size behind only that of Rush Limbaugh
The issue isn't really whether Michael Alan Weiner, the self-declared Savage, "stands by his remarks".
The real issue is how a pustulent pimple like Weiner, whose utterances are the amplified mutterings of a slobbering drunk, or the irrational ejaculations of an unmedicated Tourette's Syndrome sufferer, is elevated to the status of "commentator" in the first place.
It's old news that Weiner is just one egregious symptom of The Dumbing of America. He didn't get to where he is because he's intelligent, thoughtful, well-informed, erudite, or insightful.
He's simply a loud-mouthed snarling thug of a demagogue, who spews his ignorant inanity to a loyal audience of like-mindlessed lizard-brains-- your local lumpenprole "wise guy", admired by weak-witted mooks. He belongs back in his natural habitat: a corner taproom, where fawning dim-bulbs keep him floating in beer while he does the thinking, such as it is, for them.
Naturally, his keepers must justify promoting this vicious brute by characterizing him as a respectable contrarian-- "edgy", "controversial", perhaps "blunt". They must dignify his embarrassing rants by pretending that he is a legitimate "rebel"-- perhaps a bit dark for conventional tastes, but with a unique point of view that merits a mass-media platform, a bona-fide voice in the national dialogue. The executives who cheerlead for such bombastic instigators are always quick to praise them as talented "communicators", with a "gift" for stimulating frank and candid discussion with their "unique" perspective and communications skills.
I'd like to meet these sponsors and executives in person, if only to offer them shares in my Antarctic uranium mine.
His venal superiors and sponsors in the corporate plutocracy are more to blame than Wiener, because it is they who cheerfully pollute and defile public discourse by foisting such abominations upon a hapless public. It's unfortunate that the statements and opinions oozing from his foul and filthy stump of a mind are dignified by those who feel compelled to engage his pathological shtick.
It's just as well that he didn't change his name to "Noble Savage".
'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.'
Too bad Mr. Savage's dad didn't bother to tell him this.
"a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out,"
Wow that describes Mr. Savage to a T.
"a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out,"
Wow that describes Mr. Savage to a T.
I will let any of his sponsors know that I will be boycotting anyone who supports this loud mouth jerk. Wow, it may work for all of them.
Confucius say: Expect idiocy from the idiot.
This guy's obviously a douchebag, but what he says bears some truth, as Dr. Lord remarked above. The fact is, our environment and our bodies are bombarded with new chemical compounds every day, and have been for quite some time. They are in the air we breathe, the food we eat, our personal care products, the materials we use to build our homes, and so forth. The government only tests and regulates about 10 percent of these chemicals. Now, instead of these "Autism Awareness" and "Breast Cancer Awareness" campaigns and corresponding SUV magnetic ribbon bumper stickers, why don't we all recognize ourselves as a single class, with common interests: namely, not getting cancer, not having Autistic children, breathing clean air and eating clean food. This done, we can stop all these single-issue media-darling-for-a-day "campaigns," unite, organize, and force the corporations who control this nation to stop spewing out these harmful chemicals. "Oh, that's just not going to happen," you might say. Not with that attitude, it's not. Read "From the Folks Who Brought You the Weekend," by Murolo and Chitty, for a good summary of labor history in the U.S. It IS possible. And we CAN make it happen, we've done it before.
A luta continua!
Fifty years ago, Autism was not very common, now it it's near epidemic levels and rising every year.
Fifty years ago, "DU" was not being tested at every military firing range in the country and then thousands of tons used in wars in the Mid-East region, which continues daily and as we write our comments here.
Autism is just one of many medical maladies that DU can cause in in a ___fetus__, or in children, whose immune systems are not fully developed.
http://www.libertyforlife.com/military-war/wmd.html
This ~SAVAGE~ fella is well named.
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Mr. Savage Whiner says:" "They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.' " Among the other admonitions he felt children with autism should be hearing, he said, were: " 'Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' ""
One might bring his own father & mother into this criticism. He is obviously, by his own characterization, a product of his parental influence. Thus, all the criticism hurled his way reflects on his own parenting. What about "Act like a man.?" One would assume that male children are the only ones "afflicted" with autism, or are we all to assume that the male model of comportment is the one to be followed? One surely would not say, "Straighten up and act like a woman." How demeaning would that be. Who would want to be characterized as acting like a woman? Weak, compliant, bitchy, nagging, dependent. No: be aggressive, strong, abusive, violent and controlling(or is that a female characteristic?) It is so confusing to follow this line of reasoning; placing everyone into boxes of expectations and conformity.
"Paul Siebold, a spokesman for WOR, said in an e-mail statement: "The views expressed by Michael Savage are his views and are not those of WOR Radio. We regret any consternation that his remarks may have caused to our listeners." Does Mr Siebold have to carry this person's show because of freedom of speech? Why not someone like David Duke or Minister Farrakhan for balance? Simply distance yourself from their comments and watch the fur fly. Oh, I forgot: you need sponsors to pay for their time. At least Aflac had the courage to withdraw sponsorship. Anyone else?
I am committed to Oneness through Justice and Transformation
peace,
st john
Now if only the schzophrenics will smarten up about the imaginary voices (all they need is a smack or two) and what's with the Down's syndrome kids and their faces and the cerebal palsy people - just straighten up and quit twitching.
Somehow I don't think the founders of the American Republic had people like "Mr. Savage" and his ilk in mind when they put freedom of speech into the constitution. These "shoot from the mouth" talk show people all put me in mind of the Shakespeare quotation "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
What is really sad is that they actually have an audience.
Kem Patrick: Agreed about the DU thing as one possible cause. I personally think that it's a combination of things, from environmental pollution, DU and other radiological substances in the atmosphere (from nuclear weapons testing), processed foods with all kinds of additives, mercury in vaccinations, fluoride in the drinking water, etc... There's no denying the massive increase in Autism and other developmental disabilities in children, so really, what's causing it? It's not natural.
There is no doubt in my mind that this idiot just got confused between autism and ADD and now he feels to stupid to admit it.
Moonglow, I have to disagree. The founders most certainly had Savage in mind when they enshrined freedom of speech in the constitution. As Noam Chomsky often states, if you don't believe that those you disagree with the most should have the freedom to speak their minds, then you don't believe in freedom of speech. Period. As one of my good friends used to put it, hate speech is our national heritage.
I think what the founding fathers might not have anticipated is the dumbing down of the populace to the point where someone like Savage actually has an audience that even remotely agrees with him on any issue.
What we need to counteract the likes of this delusional demagogue is something that Adbusters constantly campaigns for: a new constitutional/human right that guarantees all will have equal access to the media. After all, they are OUR airwaves.
I agree ~Elymsterio~. It's very likely a combination of many man made chemicals and poisons.
DU use is "perhaps" the worst, and DUs use as a weapon directly corresponds with the years that autism began to rise from about 3 per 1,000 children to now over 60 per 1,000.
My wife worked as the pricipal's secretary of a Jr. high school in the 60s and there were two children that suffered with autism there out of over 800 students. Now there are two classrooms full.
Autism is a brain disorder and many other children who suffer with severe symptoms, can not even attend a school.
What a tough guy, picking on kids who can't defend themselves. Someone needs to "stand behind" Savage...with a garotte.
The final solution to the people problem.
Just look at that smug face and the eyes hidden with dark sunglases. He has hurt and enraged a lot of parents, who are guilty of nothing. Autism is a disease.
Perhaps he will next attack those who are born with other diseases they have no control over. And it is very disturbing that his type do have an audience. Though that is another symptom of a rather sick society, that votes for "God's" chosen.
You know, a is actual research saying that autistic kids are actually extremely high-IQ children who "curl up" around lesser individuals.
Savage is just lapping up the publicity--regret that I had to give him even this much of my energy. (He is a hell of an entertainer though.)
Dr. Albert Einstein was autistic.
Savage slanders are relativity crass.
'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.'
Clearly he doesn't know what he's talking about.
GWB, Linmbaugh, O'Reilly, Larry The Cable Guy, Hanity and even the Savage Weiner himself all appear to disprove his theory...
... unless it's not an act.
"Incendiary" is right.
the explosion of autism in this country is going to get some major corporation sued into oblivion as soon as the cause for this bloom in children's suffering is found - certainly something introduced into the environment within the last 20 years. assholes may know that, and will try to bluff it out to save their asses (thats what assholes do when they arent hurting people for selfish reasons, they focus on saving their own asshole). if this prob is caused by the assholes themselves, alot of american families have suffered untold pain, and someone has to pay. and pay they will.
sorry, armchair. i wish you were right.
two words: "retroactive immunity."
"Mr. Savage suggested that "99 percent of the cases" of autism were a result of lax parenting. He told his audience: "They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.' " Among the other admonitions he felt children with autism should be hearing, he said, were: " 'Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' ""
When my son was diagnosed with autism 11 years ago I never dreamed I would have to go through the struggles I went through with his school district to actually teach him something or fight with the school to keep from giving him Prozac, Paxil, Celexa, or any number of psychotropic drugs. Then we discovered through a school snitch that they locked my son in a dark room for the whole school day that it terrified him to go there that he begged and cried for me to stay and wouldn't let my hand go when he used to look forward to go. We finally had to hire an attorney and although we could never bring up the incarceration in a dark room we fought with them for months until they capitulated some what in their position. This was probably due to the fact that if we went to a court and in the discovery process this was uncovered some people were probably jail bound. Too bad we didn't. I will always regret that.
Now, is this experience I went through all just an act by my kid or is this really the ranting of an untrained, uneducated blowhard who doesn't know the difference between bad manners and mental illness? Come to think of if my untrained and unprofessional opinion accounts for anything I would say that Mr. Savage (Weiner) probably suffers from sort of psychosis. Maybe he should come clean about his own mental illness.
First Imus, then idiots like Limbaugh or Hannity. And now this? When are we going to learn that when someone has a voice on the airwaves that person carries a great responsibility. To allow having such ignorants and bigots on talk shows says a lot about us as a society.
I taught a class that included an autistic child, whose father was active duty military and very macho-- the sort of man who would typically tell his child to "straighten up and act like a man." Sorry, Savage, it didn't work.
Why do we continue to be subjected to right-wing idiots with no knowledge of topics they feel qualified to comment on? Michael Medved's another one; one of my local station airs this whackjob who has made ridiculous, incorrect statements about slavery in the US. Limbaugh spouts lies and hate on a daily basis and just got a $400M contract renewal. Meanwhile, if I wanted to listen to progressive talk shows, I'd have to subscribe to satellite radio.
Bill Frist (remember him?)made sure the corporations would be immune from civil liability for all the autism lawsuits that were pending against pharmaceuticals. (Thimerosal, etc.). But Savage is a piece of shit and doesn't know anything about autism. What's amazing is all the Americans who gobble up that shit, and pay good money for it. Who are his sponsors? Anybody know? They should find out about our consternation and suffer the consequences. But what about all those moron listeners. What has our nation become?
Hell, next week, he'll tell folks with lung cancer to get a throat lozenge and cut out the F***ing coughing.
On July 22nd, 2008 3:00 pm kittyc wrote: "Bill Frist (remember him?)made sure the corporations would be immune from civil liability for all the autism lawsuits that were pending against pharmaceuticals. (Thimerosal, etc.)."
kittyc, I'd be the first to sue if I thought that thimerosal was the cause of austism in my son. Remember that Austism is a spectrum disorder and there is a range of severity with respect to austism. To this date I am aware of no peer reviewed studies that provide a convincing link to thimerosal as the cause of austism.
That Bill Frist gave Eli-Lilly an escape clause in the law is beside the point because lawyers will still sue and hope they find something damaging in the discovery process as they did in the tobacco trials against Phillip-Morris that will bleed them. Believe me, if thimerosal is the cause then I say bleed them 'till they hurt but that won't help my son get well. I want a solution to my son's autism not a witch hunt.
Another Creepy DEMOCRAT appealling to Democrats.
I do feel for you ~Radio Tec~. I sincerely do wish I could help.
After extensive studies of the DU issue for the past year and considering all of the pro and con opinions, I personally beleve DU is the "major" cause, and as the years pass autism will become far more epidemic.
A high percentage of the cases are of a parent who served in the Gulf Wars or anyone who live downwind from military firing and bomb ranges here in the U.S. If a parent is contaminated with DU, a variety of medical probllems can be passed onto a fetus, as DU contamination will alter genes.
Here is another link on the subject and as ~ARMCHAIR~ so well noted here at 2:40pm, the government and manufacturing companies of DU ammo and bombs will say and do anything to cover up that horrible mistake.
http://www.uraniumweaponsconference.de/background.htm
It is a lengthy article. Scroll down to the health effects of contamination.
'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.'
Except the White House, apparently.
Wonder how many of Weiner's moronic listeners have autistic kids, and how many are at this moment screaming at their autistic daughters to "act like a man."
'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.' - I guess Mr. Savage did not have a father around to tell him that either.
I was out on the town one night and there was a drunk sitting on the sidewalk being obnoxious and yelling at people that went by. Almost all of the people that passed him, and heard him, ignored him. I guess that they did not take him seriously because of who he was. Why is it that when we have some idiot on the radio say something ridiculous we just don't treat him the same way?
Consider the source, if s/he is not an authority then ignore him/her. . .
And just think how many hundreds of thousands of vicious white trash hang on his every word. God bless America!
I guess this is just proof that Savage is the one with severe behavioral problems and brain damage.
Radio_tec: I was not saying thimerosal causes autism. That would have been up to the courts to decide based on the evidence at hand. What I was trying to say though is that government was trying to preemptively protect the corporations from the expense of defending the litigation, and in so doing stifle people's recourse to the courts for remedy. There is more we don't know about autism than what we do know, and I think any number of factors will ultimately be found to be involved in its cause, DU, environmental pollution, genetic dispostion, but there will be a time when we do know. Someone like Savage though just perpetuates our ignorance and confusion. I'm sorry about your son's condition. I have a nephew with autism, so I also know first hand what torment you are going through in dealing with it.
I have listened to his self-serving rants on the drive home, waiting to hear an intelligent comment. Nothing.
Today I find out his last name is WEINER.
It's all starting to make sense.
I wonder what drugs Savage is on, to make him so hateful. I wish he'd share that knowledge, so we can avoid what afflicts him so terribly.
Avoid all of them ~JJ~.
Cowards hide behind sun glasses. That, and he's damned ugly - inside and out. Has to employ the name *savage* so he sounds ferocious, tough, his definition of a *man."
And here I thought Bush was autistic too. Thanks for clearing it up Savage Wiener.
On July 22nd, 2008 3:41 pm KEM PATRICK wrote:
"I do feel for you ~Radio Tec~. I sincerely do wish I could help.
After extensive studies of the DU issue for the past year and considering all of the pro and con opinions, I personally beleve DU is the "major" cause, and as the years pass autism will become far more epidemic.
A high percentage of the cases are of a parent who served in the Gulf Wars or anyone who live downwind from military firing and bomb ranges here in the U.S. If a parent is contaminated with DU, a variety of medical probllems can be passed onto a fetus, as DU contamination will alter genes.
Here is another link on the subject and as ~ARMCHAIR~ so well noted here at 2:40pm, the government and manufacturing companies of DU ammo and bombs will say and do anything to cover up that horrible mistake. [snip]""
KEM PATRICK what you are showing me is anything but a scientific peer reviewed study. All we have is what YOU believe. My wife and I devote our time, effort and considerable financial expense to SOLUTIONS not feelings.
Like I said before and it bears repeating I am not interested in a witch hunt. If this is the case, that DU does cause autism, we might as well shut down Johns Hopkins Hospital, The Houston Medical center, et al. Sorry but my son does not have DU poisoning. He has lead, mercury, and tungsten in his body in trace amounts. This is what several very expensive tests, costing several hundred dollars I paid out of my own pocket and interpreted by a board certified doctor, told me. Now if you can cite a peer reviewed study by a respected medical institution then I'm all ears. Anything else is Area 51, X-Files pseudo-science.
Oh, neither my son nor I need anyone's sympathy. I used that admission to illicit understanding not sympathy.
On July 22nd, 2008 4:04 pm kittyc wrote:
"Radio_tec: I was not saying thimerosal causes autism. That would have been up to the courts to decide based on the evidence at hand. What I was trying to say though is that government was trying to preemptively protect the corporations from the expense of defending the litigation, and in so doing stifle people's recourse to the courts for remedy."
kittyc, agreed. I believe that Frist did try to protect Eli-Lilly and that is what I believed when I learned about it all those years ago. kittyc, I believe you mean well. However autism dollars are limited and I don't want them to be spent on a wild goose chase. Like I said before if there is a causal link established in a peer reviewed study then sue then 'till they scream and give the money to the heart broken mothers who cry when their little Johnny doesn't get the services he needs from the schools because they don't have the money to put there kid in a private school like I can, or smears the walls with feces or runs out of the house and she gets a call from family services to interview her to see if she's not a "bad mom". They are truly in need of help.
Acting like a moron today will get you 400 million bucks.
This ignorant, vicious egomaniac---sometimes I just can't believe what I'm hearing as I "slide by" his radio show here and there. Never heard anybody so choked with hate and self-love at the same time, so stupid and certain of himself (a nice match for GW Bush). Look up "cretin" in the dictionary and there's Savage's photo---but imagine, all that hatred in him is just a measure of the monsters behind him running the "RKO Hate Radio Network" 24/7....Featuring Limbaugh and Howie Carr besides. Gah.