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Protesters often wondered about surveillance of gatherings
BALTIMORE - Max Obuszewski is a graying veteran of war protests. In his life, he estimated yesterday, he's been arrested about 70 times for struggling to make a point about critical issues, including the Vietnam War, homelessness in Baltimore and the war in Iraq.
He also is one who knows history - and he believes in the potential for an unchecked government to spy on people, particularly during times of war. He and others in a local, loose-knit network of peace activists and advocates had often wondered if their open gatherings had been infiltrated by law enforcement.
Documents that he and others obtained through the Maryland Public Information Act erased any doubt, the activists declared yesterday.
Over a 14-month period, the Maryland State Police had been "covertly monitoring" a group of peaceful anti-death penalty advocates, according to the documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union, which sued the state to gain access to files that documented the tracking of death penalty opponents and others.
Obuszewski is a fixture in a group of middle-aged men and women who have spent all or part of their lives passionately protesting issues and defending their right to organize peacefully without the fear of being spied upon by the government. They look more likely to frequent Baltimore's farmers' markets than behave as fanatical plotters of terrorist acts.
They don't refer to their efforts as "civil disobedience."
Rather, Obuszewski and others describe what they do as "civil resistance" - active protesting that provokes a response. Many knew and worked with Philip Berrigan, a well-known Baltimore peace activist who was one of the "Catonsville Nine" - a group of protesters who were arrested for burning the draft cards of hundreds of Vietnam War draftees in 1968.
Obuszewski was among a group of five people who were arrested three years ago for protesting the Iraq war at the National Security Agency. Some of the people involved in war protesting in Maryland are also connected to the Baltimore Pledge of Resistance, a peace group; the Baltimore Coalition Against the Death Penalty; and the Committee to Save Vernon Evans - a convicted killer who was on death row at the time of the surveillance.
Terry Fitzgerald, a member of the Coalition to End the Death Penalty, is a 59-year-old physician who treats drug addiction. He said he's been protesting in Baltimore against the death penalty for the past decade. He grew up in Nebraska, where he protested with farmers in the 1960s, and later protested against the Vietnam War. He's been arrested about 10 times, he said.
Ellen Barfield, 52, was one of several people arrested in a protest at the National Security Agency headquarters at Fort Meade in 2004, which was also monitored by local law enforcement agencies. She said she now wonders about whom she bumps into at protests.
"It makes you go, 'Wow, who was that standing next to me?'"
Copyright © 2008, The Baltimore Sun
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Show AllWell..to these people..whom I support with every ounce of my being..I say..ONE THING YOU SEEM TO MISS...and WHY?...why do you PAY? to be spied upon? WHY?
Yeah..sure..SOME of these Cop mentality types..WOULD probably do it for free..just because they are SO corrupted..SO much Kool-aid down th ol' Gullet...but 99% of the Pig Fascist network...gets PAID to do this work..and if you STOP PAYING THEM..THEN THEY MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR....CAPRICES...So..STOP PAYING!..now is the time..even these SWINE..are ..BROKE..make em make the choice.."spy on someone I don't know FOR someone I don't know..or get another job..??"
The man in question Max Obuszewski..is an ORGANIZER..so Wha' th' FUH'? ORGANIZE! organize the ONLY really..TRULY..NON-Denominational, Easy to understand...easy to DO...NON-VIOLENT in the EXTREME as you do not even need to LEAVE YOUR RESIDENCE..and..AN AMERICAN TRADITION IN THE GRANDEST SENSE..:::::
TAX PROTEST!
ORGANIZE IT! DO IT! MAKE EM SCRAPE TOGETHER EVERY PENNY!
See folks! In LEAN times...uhhhh like NOW! for example.."Programs" even ones that are Fascist in nature and based on HYSTERIA..MUST...in terms of the Government running them...SHOW RESULTS PER DOLLAR SPENT..."funding".....people! has fundamental rules..and if a program is..useless..like spying on citizens who are doing nothing ILLEGAL..AND if FINANCES ARE SO SHORT THAT CRITICAL SERVICES HANG IN THE BALANCE...SEWER, WATER, AMBULANCE, FIRE..ETC...THEN THESE USELESS, CONTROVERSIAL "PROGRAMS" GET SHUT DOWN...NO FUNDING..NO PROGRAM..PERIOD!
SECONDLY..FOR THIS MAN..AND OTHERS..AND I BELIEVE HE IS DOING THIS..SUE..SUE..SUE..SUE..SUE! IF EVERY PERSON THAT HAS A LOCK CUT, OR A DOOR BROKEN..SUED THOSE RESPONSIBLE..AKA THE LOCAL,STATE,FEDERAL LOYALIST ARMY....THIS WOULD BE OVER FAST(ER) AND..ADD TO THAT..SHORT OF FUNDING..AND..VOILA..FISCAL REALITY SETS IN AND USELESS "TERRORISM" BULLSHIT BECOMES A LIABILITY AND A HEAVY BURDEN...ALSO..LAW-SUITS AND FISCAL REALITIES..EXPOSE THE FACTS ABOUT JUST HOW USELESS THESE "PROGRAMS" ARE, AND THE WORD GETS OUT TO THE IDIOT MASSES...AND THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE LIGHT..AS OPPOSED TO SEEING NOTHING...THE LAW-SUITS CREATE OFFICIAL RECORDS AND PAPER TRAILS..WHY DO YOU THINK THE TELECOM IMMUNITY WAS..FRANKLY..CRITICAL TO BUSHCO..WORTH GOING TO WAR WITH IRAN TO HIDE?..THE PAPER TRAIL AN THE EXPOSURE OF THE REALITY..THAT'S WHY! THOSE LAW-SUITS COULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN..AND SO..THEY DIDNT..A GOOD LESSON AS TO THE WEAK LINKS.. THESE FUCKERS CREATE ALLOT OF PAPER...SUE EM!
SO..DO NOT PAY! SUE! AND EXPOSE! AND WE CAN WIN...HEY..IF YUO ALL STOPPED PAYING..THIS WOLD BE OVER BY CHRISTMAS..THAT AINT NO BULLSHIT..NO MONEY? NO SNITCHES..PERIOD!
TOO BAD YOU ARE ALL SO AFRAID..TOO AFRAID EVEN TO STOP PAYING SHODOW FIGURES TO DESTROY YOUR LIBERTY...WOW!
I have no doubt the powerhungry Bush maladministration was watching many who protested their illegal war. Perhaps myself. But then, there were an awful lot of us who saw the lies from the start, and spoke out. So many of us that all they could do was try to plant paranoia and sew the seeds of dismissal in the obedient corpomedia. But traitors they remain.
jcrumb
Have You stopped paying taxes? If yes, has the IRS come after you?- and if not - how did you dodge the usual consequences?
This type of behavior by the police doesn't protect democracy... it damages it. I met the president of our local green party. She said that undercover cops were coming to their meetings and trying to instigate violence and SUV burning. It's utterly ridiculous. To behave like that, as a public official, at a democratic townhall type meeting is just beyond belief. It scares the public from attending. So much for democracy.
I never read comments written by PEOPLE WHO SHOUT AT ME by typing in all caps. If you have no respect for me as a reader, (and where's the respect in SHOUTING ?), then why do you come on this site to disrespect folks?
HEY.."FONT NAZI'S"...I AM SORRY THAT YOU ARE NOT ANGRY ENOUGH TO SHOUT..I TRULY AM...PERHAPS YOUR CASUAL ATTITUDE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM! NO?
I THINK IT IS REALLY AMAZING THAT THIS LITTLE..CADRE'..OF...CENSORS..BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS..CENSORSHIP...FRANKLY..CAN ACTUALLY PRETEND THAT .."ALL CAPS" IS SOMEHOW..UHHH..A BIG DEAL..I AM ANGRY...EXTREMELY ANGRY..I AM SHOUTING..LETTING FORTH MY MIGHTY YAWP!...FROM THE ROOFTOPS..AND I WILL NOT BE SILENCED BY ANYONE...LET ALONE SOME...PETTY LITTLE POWER TRIPPER..
YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? THIS ATTITUDE..IS EXACTLY THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT BUSH/CHENEY/CORPORATE AMERICA TAKES TOWARD 'PROTEST'
" ...YOUR SHOUTING IS SO COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK THEN LET US DO IT IN A PROFESSIONAL SETTING..WE CXAN'T TALK TO YOU IF YOU ARE ANGRY.." ETC..ETC..ETC..ETC. IT IS PSYCHO-BABBLE BULLSHIT..THE OL.."DON'T GET ANGRY..." AND THEN YOU SAY YOU AREN'T ANGRY AND THEN.."NOW YOUR JUST BEING DEFENSIVE.." ETC..ETC.
YEAH..YOU ARE THE SAME BREED..PETTY TYRANTS...WHO WANT IT SAID..AND DONE...YOUR WAY...AND NO ONE ELSE BETTER DO IT DIFFERENTLY
AND FINALLY...IF THIS...MY USE OF "ALL CAPS" IS REALLY THE BIGGEST THING YOU HAVE TO BITCH ABOUT..WELL..UHHH..I GOT NEWS FER YA..WAKE THE FUCK UP!
MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY SHOUTING...MAKES YOU FEEL ALIVE...I REALIZE THAT YOU DO NOT FEEL ALIVE...THAT YOU HAVE REALLY..NO ANSWERS, NO SOLUTIONS, NO HOPE..AND SO TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU BELIEVE...EVEN BELOW THE SURFACE..TO BE.."ACHIEVABLE"..AS IN.."IF I BITCH ABOUT THE FONT BEING USED BY THIS OTHER PSERSON..MAYBE I'LL GET RESULTS..AND..THEN WON'T I FEEL LIKE I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING.."..WELL..DUHHHH!...SO..YOU RANT ABOUT MY USE OF "ALL CAPS" AND FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DONE YOUR GOOD WORKS...AND THIS IS..HEY..I AGREE...SO MUCH EASIER THAN ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING REAL..TO REALLY POWERFUL PEOPLE..WHO YOU KNOW WILL NEVER LISTEN TO YOUR PATHETIC WHISPERING PLEA TO "stop...ohhh..please..stop doing these awful things..gosh...we just want some respect..and w want some peace..and w can't shout because..then if we shout we are not showing respect..." BLAH..BLAH..BLAH...DO YU REALLY THINK ANYONE RESPECTS ANYONE ELSE? IF YOU DO? THEN MAYBE YOU HAD THE REARVIEW MIRROR TAKEN OUT OF YOUR CAR....THE REALITY OF "UNITY' IS TAILGATING YOU ON YOUR WAY TO THE LOCAL CO-OP..WAKE UP! DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL..
OH YEAH..I FORGOT..YO AREN'T READING THIS ANYWAY..I ALWAY'S FORGET THAT LITTLE GEM..'WE DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE THAT DOES WAHT WE DON'T LIKE..AND ALL CAPS IS...SOOOOOO OFFENSIVE.." JEEZIS CHIRST...YOU PETTY FONT NAZI/CENSORS ARE A JOKE..WAKE THE FUCK UP!
OH YEAH..THE TAX QUESTION..INTERESTING TIMING..IF THIS IS FEDERAL LOYALIST ARMY THEN YO ALREADY KNOW...IF NOT..THEN OH WELL..PROBABLY NAIVE AND DUMB TO SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT A LAWYER PRESENT...BUT..I HAVE UTILIZED AN ACCOUNTANT, I HAVE SET ASIDE TAX MONEY..AND..I SIMPLY..AS I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.....
DO NOT DECLARE! IT IS SO FUCKING SIMPLE...DO NOT DECLARE..DO NOT DECLARE...DO NOT DECLARE...AND IF THAT WON'T WORK FOR YOU..TALK TO AN ACCONTANT..."TAX RESISTANCE' IS ON THE BOOKS FOLKS...THERE ARE PROCEDURES...WHY IS THIS SUCH AN AMAZING CONCEPT?
DECLARE NOT TO DECLARE..GET IT?
AND IF..AND WHEN..THEIS NATION REGAINS IT'S STATUS AS A "REPRESENTATIONAL" GOVERNMENT..I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY..NAY! GLAD..WITH A GLAD HEART...TO "CONTRIBUTE" TO THE NATIONAL GOOD..I ALWAY'S HAVE IN THE PAST..BUT I REFUSE TO DECLARE AND SUPPORT FINANCIALLY A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY THAT IS A FACT..NOT "HIPPIE BULSHIT" A FACT..WE KNOW THE WAR IS A LIE..WE KNOW IT FOR A FACT! IT IS SURREAL THAT IT CONTINUES AND THAT THESE MAN ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT..
NO...GE AN ACCOUNTANT TO HELP YOU..THIS IS A "RISK" YOU ARE TAKING..AS I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN..AND YOU NEED TO DO IT CORRECTLY..YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE PREDATORY COERCION FACTOR OF THE FEDERAL LOYALIST CLERK ARMY..AND YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! AND YOU HAVE SOME..BELIEVE IT OR NOT..AND YOU CAN DO THIS..
HEY..I DID NOT COME UP WITH THIS IDEA...NO! THAT WAS OUR FOREFATHERS THAT DID THE THINKING...UHHHH..BOSTON TEA PARTY ANYONE? BUSHCO KOOL-AID PARTY ANYONE?
I WILL TAKE MY CHANCES..MY LIBERTY..MY WORLDLY GOODS...BUT WHAT GOOD IS ANY OF THIS WITHOUT FREDOM/ I REALIZE THAT MOST OF YOU ARE NO LONGER "FREE" ANYWAY...ASSHOLE SPOUSE..SMART MOUTHED KIDS..GIRLS GONE WILD...ETC...BUT I AM NOT GOING TO ALLOW CORPORATE FASCISM TO TAKE ME WITHOUT A STATEMENT..
TAX PROTEST IS NON-VIOLENT...IT IS EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE...IT IS AN AMERICAN TRADITION..BUT STILL IN THE ANSENCE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN BEGGIN THE REAL "ORGANIZERS" FOR..A WEB BASED TAX PROTEST MOVEMENT THAT GIVES YOU STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTRIONS..WELL..UNTIL THAT HAPPENS..YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN WITH THE HELP OF A TAX PROFESSIONALL..OH YEAH..AND ONE THING...NEVER SAY ANYHTING IN THEIR OFFICES...NOT PARANOID..WAS TOLD THAT BY AN ACCOUNTANT...WHATEVER IS SAID IN OFFICE..CAN BE USD AGAINST YOU..SO..TAKE EM TO LUNCH...LET EM KNO WHAT YOU WANNA DO...AND SEE WHAT YO CAN O..YOU WILL BE...ABSOLUTLEY..SURPRISED...UNLESS YOU ARE WITH A RIGHT WING PERSON..DUHHH...GET AN ACOUNTANT THAT IS AT LEAST "ANTI-WAR" I MEAN C'MON..BUT DO IT...YOUR MONEY PAY'S FOR EVERY MINUTE OF THIS WAR...TORTURE...KILLING..LANDMINES..CLUSTERBOMBS...ON AND ON AND ON...AD NAUSEUM..
WAKE UP...TAKE ACTION..DO NOT BE VIOLENT..THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT...INSTEAD...STOP PAYING THEM..TAKE THE FOOD OFF THE TABLE AT THE "SNITCHERSONS" HOME...MAKE EM GET ANOTHER JOB..SIMPLE AS THAT!
THANK YOU AN GOODNIGHT...
Fear and scare tactics don't trump peace and nonviolence. It is though another shame of this government that they act and get away with such things. The Veterans for Peace are going to be in Conyer's office requesting that the Impeachment proceedings be brought to the floor.
They have asked that we all get in touch with our Congressmen this week and let them know what a good idea this is and while calling or writing or emailing may get you on a list you would be joining this generations patriots. Not bad company in my estimation.
You're horrible, Crumb, all riled up and raving. I can't read you either. You're
like a musician who only plays one note. To communicate, you've got to take it easy, make contact with the other person. Then if you scream it might mean something.
Bottle,
It's interesting that you mentioned the Veterans' for Peace. Today I was hesitant to renew my membership. Recently at a meeting of Unit 71 the president cautioned us not to attend the veterans rally on Flag Day at the Courthouse Square. The American Legion and other right wing veteran groups might not like it and attack us. I was shocked. Where are the Martin Luther Kings, the Jane Fondas, the Stokely Carmichaels. I announced that I an 82 year old World War II vet was going. Well, I'm not, one announced. I don't want to be beat up. The others agreed.
Wearing my Veterans for Peace T-shirt,a Marine Corps Cap and carrying a poster stating "Throw the Bush Administration Out." I was stopped by an old geezer in full military regalia. "You aint coming in here," he announced blocking my way. "We don't want your kind here. You're all traitors."
'Traitors," I announce. "I'm a Marine Corps veteran. I fought for this country. No one's going to stop me."
"Well, I sure as h*ll am,"
"What are you going to do? Beat me up?" I said eyeing the press camera that was focused in on us.
"No I'm gonna get the police. They'll stop you."
"That's great," I said assuming that I would be the Strokely Carmichael of the Iraq War being dragged off to jail. However a younger veteran edged past the old geezer and said, "You're welcome, Marine. All veterans are treated the same. A lot of us don't like what's going on in Iraq but we're here to honor the troops."
Inside I sought out the master of ceremony, a young obese smug woman, and asked her if I could make a speech on patriotism. She was sorry but there was no longer any room. I'd should have contacted her sooner. Moments later she announced that the Mayor had just died, and there was no one to take his place. I stood up waving my arms. "I have a speech on patriotism."
She retorted: "We don't want your kind of speech." I turned to the audience. "Can you believe that? She doesn't want a speech on patriotism."
How did Unit 71 respond. The president circulated an e-mail denouncing me as an Extremist.
For those of us with weak eyes ALL CAPS IS HARD TO READ.
Look at the all cap statements and compare them to the other comments. You can do what you want, but the point of posting is so that someone reads it. All caps don't get er done.
Why spy on people who publicly announce their views and protest peacefully?
POLITICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jcrumb, I know your angry and upset and you believe with your whole heart that screaming is what is going to wake folks up and smell the coffee! I understand your feelings and I don't deny your right to scream and rant and rave! But, after the screaming has stop, there's one thing left and its silence! Nothing gets changed! Your yelling at the choir, the same folks who feel just as passionate about the circumstances we see this country falling towards. We are are angry, scared and truth be known, just a little overwhelmed by the whole misma we call America. Try if you can to realize we want change just as much as you do! But we need to talk not scream at each other. To engage in conversation and debate with one another, to makes bridges of rapport with one another. You, jcrumb, have many wonderful ideas that alot of us agree with you on. Others, could possibly agree with you, but....screaming makes folks flee and you wind up screaming in an empty room followed by silence... give it a try please, you might find allies in your fight and isn't that our goal to work together not against each other? Thank you!
any state or local authorities who aid federal agencies in constitutionally illegal spying on INNOCENT american citizens are TRAITORS and CRIMINALS and they deserve full prosecution and to be sentenced to long terms in jail, up and down the line of command. to posture lawful american citizens as anti-war "terrorists" is to brand 1/2 of americans terrorists. anyone who gives an order to spy on americans against our constitutional freedoms is a SCUMBAG, and anyone who follows an order to rob america and americans of their freedoms is a scumbag and terrorist.
unlike COINTELPRO, this time the american people arent going to let the criminals walk away. lawenforcement and politics are NOT above the law. THIS TIME THE LAWBREAKING SCUM ARE GOING TO JAIL, and they'll be needing large concentration camp type facilities to hold all the traitors in lawenforcement/politics who thought it was fun to ignore the law and harrass americans.