Israel Targets Hamas Orphanages
JERUSALEM - Shopping malls. Schools. Medical centres. Charities, orphanages. Soup kitchens. These are the latest targets in the campaign the Israeli military is waging against Hamas in the West Bank.
Israeli military officials have identified Hamas's civilian infrastructure in the West Bank as a major source of the Islamic group's popularity, and have begun raiding and shutting down these institutions in cities like Hebron, Nablus and Qalqilyah.
Last week, troops focused their efforts in Nablus, raiding the city hall and confiscating computers. They also stormed into a shopping mall and posted closure notices on the shop windows. A girls' school and a medical centre were shut down in the city, and a charitable association had its computers impounded and documents seized.
This policy, officials say, is meant to deny the Islamic group, which is committed to Israel's destruction, the ability to use these institutions as a pipeline by which money is channelled to finance attacks on the Jewish state. But the main goal of this campaign is to stem Hamas's growing popularity in the West Bank, and ensure it does not seize control of the area as it did in Gaza a year ago, when its forces vanquished the more moderate Fatah movement headed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
In Gaza, Hamas was able to capture the hearts and minds of the residents not just because it offered an alternative to the corruption-tainted Fatah leadership, but also because its network of schools, clinics, summer camps, after-school activities and charitable associations provided impoverished Gazans with the type of institutions and welfare alternatives that the Palestinian Authority failed to.
As part of the campaign, Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak recently issued orders outlawing 36 NGOs that function abroad because he said they were raising money for Hamas. According to estimates by defence officials, anywhere between 120 to 200 million dollars has been funnelled to institutions associated with Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank over the last year. The money has come from institutions in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the Gulf States, Europe, South America and the U.S.
In recent months, the army has also closed down an orphanage, a bakery and other institutions in Hebron, which Israel believes are associated with Hamas. In Gaza, meanwhile, Israel and the Islamic group are observing a truce, but this does not pertain to the West Bank where the Israeli military operates freely.
Writing in the daily Haaretz newspaper this week, columnist Gideon Levy calls the move against Hamas-related institutions "ludicrous." Residents of the West Bank, he concludes, "cannot be simultaneously imprisoned, prohibited from earning a living and offered no social welfare assistance while we strike at those who are trying to do so, whatever their motives. If Israel wants to fight the charitable associations, it must at least offer alternative services. On whose back are we fighting terror? Widows? Orphans? It's shameful."
By moving against Hamas institutions, Israel runs the risk of increasing the popularity of the Islamic movement and, at the same time, undermining that of Abbas and his Fatah party, who are perceived, correctly or not, as the intended beneficiaries -- even if unwitting and unwilling ones -- of this policy.
What's more, Hamas's popularity does not derive only from its network of schools and charities, but is also very much a direct function of the deep disillusionment among the Palestinian people with the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority and its inability to deliver on its key promises, the central one being an independent state in the West Bank and Gaza. Some in Israel argue that the best way for Israel to block Hamas and bolster Abbas would be to halt construction in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, ease travel restrictions there and, most importantly, ensure there is progress in negotiations with the Palestinian leader.
Many Israeli ministers are highly sceptical about Abbas's ability to deliver on any peace deal, and so put little store in the negotiations that were renewed last December. Some ministers have even called for the release of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti, who is serving several life terms in an Israeli jail after being convicted for involvement in attacks in which Israelis were killed during the second Intifadah uprising.
Barghouti, they say, has the political standing among Palestinians that will be required to pull off a deal with Israel, and could draw enough support to wrest back the agenda from Hamas. For now, though, Barghouti remains in jail, talks between a weak Abbas and an embattled Ehud Olmert are limping along, money continues to flow to Hamas, and its popularity remains intact.
© 2008 Inter Press Service
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43 Comments so far
Show AllShopping malls. Schools. Medical centres. Charities, orphanages. Soup kitchens - and the Zionists think they have ANY moral standing in the world
Lisa my dear, Criticism of Israel, by itself, is not antisemitism. I never accused you of being anti-semitic or a Jew hater. So far you showed no indication that you are. I only accused you of ignoring facts regarding Israel's enemies actions. (Which could be traced to prejudice based on insufficient or partial knowledge)
All I can hope for is that you are open minded enough to learn additional view points. And not reject data off hand just because if doesn't fit your perceptions.
- There would be no dead Palestinians had they accepted any of the proposals in the links I published above, or the idea of a Jewish state in parts of Canaan, or not reverting to terror.
- Are you saying that Palestinians bare no responsibility what so ever for their own action and condition?
There is plenty of material on the conflict. You can, if you wish, do your own research. Learn about Haj Amin al-Husseini. Learn about the history of the region. Learn about the Arab league. About the Jewish communities in the M.E and their fate. Learn about the Fedaiyun, the PLO, the Hamas and Islamic Jihad. What is their goal. What were their cations.
I'm not saying that Israelis are saints. But putting all the blame for the conflict only on Israel is unfair, unjust, and untrue.
For example check the article above. It ignores the fact that some of the Hamas funding is being used to parches missiles and explosive vests to kill innocent Israeli civilian. It ignore the fact that the Hamas is a racist organization. And when Israel is taking steps to protect the lives of its own citizens, by stopping that funding, Israel is being accused as if they are some sort of evil bastards who are targeting Orphans for no apparent reason but vileness.
My answer is exposing these sort of prejudice and half truth with publicly available data
So Letto you put me down for wishing Israel well.
And you talk about Israel being the source of all the world's evils.
Thats an old ploy when you can't call someone anti-semitic, become more generalized in your attempt to label them Jew haters.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but that ugly country Israel is responsible for it's actions; one-sided and near genocidal.
That truth can't be deflected by another tired old veiled attempt at accusing a critic of Israel of rascism.
It's not about me. It's about dead Palestinians.
407 DEAD Palestinians and 7 Israelis since the Second Intifada.
That is not self defense.
It is First Degree Murder.
It's unfair that you blame only Israel for the conflict, while ignoring other, publicly available facts. Throughout the conflict, he problem had never been a Palestinian state, but the opposition to the idea of a Jewish state.
I agree with you that Israel have the superior force. But not with your conclusion regarding who is the aggressor.
Your world view is: Israel is the source of all evils. But I (lisa3210peace) forgive Israel, because I (lisa3210peace) am such a good person.
I say you are wrong with your one sided analysis.
No Letto. The truths of Palestine/Israel are dual; I would like to see a thriving Israel that had left this Palestine insanity in the past. Buried it.
And build upon it a homeland for these homeless people, a vibrant land with water and farms and safety.
Israel is in the wrong for it's treatment of Palestinians, horribly inexcusably murderously in the wrong.
However that should stop, lend your voice, Courageous Jews must step forward and demand a homeland for Palestinians so both peoples can get on with the business of life, and leave the horror of death behind.
But as the vastly superior force by a factor of a thousand the ball is in Israel's court when it comes to peace which they have at all costs avoided for sixty years.
My heart wishes Israel well,
My mind says stop killing the Palestinians.
This Letto, is a dual sided vision of hope for Israel while not blind to it's crimes.
lisa3210peace, "Hey Letto; How are you? You still to my surprise advocating a two state solution?"
I'm good Lisa, Thank you.
The answer to your question is: "yes", I always say that peace is better than war. (if a war can be avoided)
How are you doing? Still arguing that a coin has only one side?
No. I analyzed 9-11 and Mossad agents filming the impact from atop a van in New Jersey and Silverstien saying "pull-it"
before WTC-7 came down in a controlled demolition.
I overlay this awareness with Israel's (read 'Neocons'-bullshit codeword to confuse the American public) with Israels/the Neocon's drive to invade Iraq and the "need for a cataclysmic event" to facilitate this.
Not to mention the twin towers were controlled demolitions as well. Who had that capability? Motive.
Dots connecting? Means motive opportunity. Physical evidence. The Israeli agents captured in the hours after the impacts were quietly released months later.
Now Israel seeks war with Iran and Hamas, Lebanon, Syria and a new 'cataclysmic event' will "happen" to propel these Zionist ME goals and American pursuit of OIL. Synchronicity.
Me trip? I set my alarm for 4:20, wake up and drop 400 micrograms of LSD, go back to sleep then wake up at seven and bong pure Salvia while thinking about War Criminals, their dead souls and Allah.
And I laugh. I have tripped with Ken Kesey in Oregon and used to sell Green Pyramid LSD when I studied International Relations in San Francisco.
Politically; you kinda just made an idiot of yourself question wise.
Ethnopsychopharmacologically you're in over your head with me as well.
Hey Letto; How are you? You still to my surprise advocating a two state solution?
That is the only sane path. One that leads to survival, even peace for Israel and peace in the ME.
lol lisa did you smoke salvia or drop acid before writing that?
Once Israel hits Iran with the 10,00 'bunker buster' bombs they recently took delivery of,
A US carrier WILL BE SUNK (by Israel if Iran fails to accomplish this with it's SS-N-22's which is unlikely),
A furious America will then attack Iran by land sea and air. WW3.
AND THEN ISRAEL WILL TURN IT'S ATTENTION AWAY FROM IRAN TO SOME NAZI STYLE MASSEXTERMINATIONS OF ORPHANS CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN. Gaza is already the world's largest concentration camp.
It will run red with blood, a mass killing field, once the world's attention is diverted;
While the ME burns in zionist flames.
zzz - Why?
What did I say that isn't true? Doesn't the Hamas use some of its donation money to finance war crime against innocent civilians? Didn't WWII started with Germany invading Poland?
Name calling is cheap, providing evidence to support your name calling, may be somewhat more challenging. Please explain why I am a troll.
zzz say what you want about me, but letto is a serious poster who backs up what he says with links and facts. You should read more of his posts.
Letto and Ariel Sharon, tag team trolls.
Anyone donating money to the Hamas knows for a fact that some percentage of that money will be used for war crimes against Jews.
Anyone who wish to donate only to Palestinian charity, can do that through other organizations with better transparency than the Hamas, such as UNRA or Palestinian Children Relief fund and many more.
jcrumb "Self Hating Jews Start WWIII…This is Soooo SAD"
Can you please elaborate?
I always thought WWII started when Germany invaded Poland.
mikk, war crimes were commited on both sides. Which is something I do not support.
(About 700,000 Palestinians were "relocated" and 860,000 Jews, in a war which was initiated by the Arab side)
___A _ L _ L ___,
Do the world's children a favor and everybody aid the collection and locking up of psycho-paths and those acting with those behaviors,whose crime is preying upon the rest of us, causing wars suffering, pain -- through their having ( little or ) no sense of shame, moral restraint, or empathy.
These very intelligent and charismatic beasts are sometimes found to appear to be quite "loveable" -- but that's a carefully constructed act -- and they are found EVERYWHERE, doing almost any job, while harboring the vilest and the darkest corners of dim vestiges of humanity.
They need for _p s y c h o p a t h s_ to be isolated, and protected from "blending" back into society, and while 10-15 % of the "practicing" or adaptive ( see www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v7PJmKKsfM", for details of pon_erological government officials ), perhaps may be rehabilitated -- but for the deadliest core of 4-6 % of population, that are the true psychopaths -- there is little hope other than life long residence in IN-SANE ASYLUMS.
I would suggest a "P" be emblazoned on their foreheads, and their hair permanently dyed bright green, to make identification easier.
It's quite likely that all legislatures, and high level gov't and military positions BE CHECKED FIRST, and yes there are tests to discern and isolate these "cardboard cut-out people", that turn ( objectify ) real people into their cruel "play things".
Looks like the SCIONists organizations, would be a great recruitment vehicle …
Grant, check the obama thread for my reply to the reply to the alleged idiocy.
Self Hating Jews Start WWIII...This is Soooo SAD!..It just really is..a peole who experienced the reality of EXTERMINATION...not to the exten that the Russians or Poles did..BUT...they DID see the reality of HELL...real deal HELL..andnow..not more than 60 years...(many still alive to know better) later..THEY do the same thing to another Tribe...this for me..is the ..REALITY of Human weakness..we ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT FOLKS!...We do NOT learn from our Mistakes..we do NOT move "forward" we do NOT care about the suffering of others..we do NOT care about the Earth we live on...we shit where we eat..and we kill anyone that get's in the way of that..period! WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT!
If you think yuo care..then why do you PAY the SALLERY of a person who tortures for a living/ Why do you pay for the Bombs and Bullets?..see? People will not eve stop doing something as simple as SENDING MONEY TO KILLES if it means even the smnallest "risk"..let alone deal with the really..BIG problems..nawwww...we AINT GONNA MAKE IT..Ariel? you out there? You are the TEST pattern for the end of mankind....you are the TEMPLATE for the "human" Model Number "MALIGNANT NARCISSIST" (sic?)..and that is what the VAAAST majority of Humans are...and that is why...it's OVER! Enjoy the last of the clean air and water..we have MAYBE 30 years...if we can get rid of Ariel an his ilk...before the damage they have done already..including Generational Evil that will go on and on....kills us all...we are the last...and X-Ers? we are in fact..THE LAST INNOCENT GENERATION..a distinction...enjoy it..extinction is Human Destiny..sorry..but you know it's the truth...don't forget to send in your money...they NEED it!
May the Israeli government and Israeli citizens who support this taste the fire of Hell for their pure hatred and may the true Jews be spared from the hatred that Israel brings to them. Its so sad that a nation that is Zionist tarnishes the name of the Jewish people.
Letto "I support Israel. (and a peaceful Palestinian state alongside Israel) But unlike you, I don't support genocide and racist war crime. (Relocating people against their will, as was suggested by you, is a war crime)"
So are you calling for Israel to be tried for a war crime at the time of the countries founding when many Palestinians were "relocated" against their will?????
forextrader, I support Israel. (and a peaceful Palestinian state alongside Israel) But unlike you, I don't support genocide and racist war crime. (Relocating people against their will, as was suggested by you, is a war crime)
forextrader July 7th, 2008 3:52 pm
All I can say is FUCK "ISRAEL".
forextrader May 15th, 2008 4:00 pm
My message to "Isareal" on it's 60th "anniversary". Happy birthday you land stealing jerks! May you not see 61!
forextrader May 15th, 2008 4:02 pm
Palestinians are paying a debt they never owed in the first place. Relocate "Israel" to Germany, Austria, Brooklyn, Miami Beach or the damn Moon!
forextrader May 9th, 2008 11:21 am
mikep: screw your emotional blackmail and screw you for playing the phony "anti-Semite" card. Israel is a phantom nation and it needs to be exorcised from Palestine once and for all. Hamas has been more than kind.
Hamas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter, given in full below. Following are highlights.
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
Hamas is a legitimate political organization. Supporting "Israel" would be to support a genocidal and racist war criminal entity.
The Hamas is an organization with two hats.
One is a charity organization that provide food and shelter to poor people.
The Other is an extreme racist organization who believe it has natural right to randomly kill Jews. The Hamas is spending millions of $$$ to buy rockets and explosive vests that are used to kill innocent Israeli civilians.
Since it's impossible to sort the usage for the money once it's in Hamas' hands. (You don't know if a donation will be used for charity or for war crime) - Israel's defense minister, who is responsible for protecting the lives of Israeli citizens - stopped all funds transfers to the Hamas.
If someone wants to donate money to a Palestinian charity , there are other channels and organizations, such as UNRA.
Why do you people keep feeding the troll? Sigh.
For anyone wondering why the "peace process" never seems to go anywhere, here is something written by a former chief of Israeli military intelligence, General Yehoshafat Harkabi as reproduced in David Hirst's fine book The Gun and the Olive Branch:
We must define our position and lay down basic principles for a settlement. Our demands should be moderate and balanced, and appear to be reasonable. But in fact they must involve such condition as to ensure that the enemy rejects them. Then we should manoeuvre and allow him to define his own position, and reject a settlement on the basis of a compromise solution. We should then publish his demands as embodying unreasonable extremism.
Here's a neat idea:
Target the most defenseless sector of an oppressed people. Strip them of everything. Strip them of every last avenue that lets them feel human. Drive them absolute despair.
Use this act to enrage the 'terrorist' group you are doing your best to prod into violent action. use this act to make damn sure they have every possible reason to strike back at their oppressors.
And be doubly sure that you can 'trace' the actions and supplies back to the nation you want to attack so you can destroy their legal nuclear power infrastructure, accusing them of supporting the 'terrorist' group you routinely target.
Now stir the pot and wait for it to boil over, then claim you are as innocent as a new born babe when you use the weapons supplied to you by the ally who also wants to attack the country with the legal nuclear program...
Does any of this sound at all plausible?
Ariel_Sharon, (post #1) are you still "alive" and on life support? You sound like you've suffered a lot of brain damage; time to pull the plug.
Hey Ariel, I responded to your idiotic comments in the thread about Obama's "poor phrasing" on Jerusalem.
Also Ariel, tell us, did Israel ever support Hamas? Did Israel ever support reactionary Islamist groups in the past? If so, why? Whose influence were they trying to counter? Did Israel not work countless times with the Saudis and the Pakistanis to fund and support these groups? I'll tell you, in part, why the West supported these groups, they feared the influence of the left and the secular elements like Nasser. A leftist, nationalist & relatively secular (especially in regards to Israel and it's sometimes reluctant partners in crime the Saudis) movement like Nasser or Mossadeq in Iran would be bad for the West, as the first thing any movement like that would do is take control of the oil reserves. That's why the US & the West supported the Moslem Brotherhood, Israel supported Hamas amongst other groups, and the Saudis were encouraged to support the World Muslim League to counter the secular elements like Nasser. If anyone wants to get a hold of this reactionary, racist anti-Arab's mindset, look at his posts on Obama's "poor phrasing" on Jerusalem. He disparaged Africa and black people, made countless anti-Arab comments, said he was in essence proud of colonialism and lumped the left and critiques of Israel in with the Islamists. Oh, and he said a number of times how intelligent he was. So yeah, he's nuts.
Ariel_S___head is more like it.
Palestinian acquaintances have relatives 'strongly mistreated' by the israeli goons in these cowardly actions.
If Ariel can't do better than parrot Zionist misinformatio, he should be required to accompany the goons so he can see the truth.
@Ben
No problem, I read it on this site.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/16/8333/
"Although Jews make up only about two percent of the U.S. population, they provide up to 40 percent of total campaign contributions for Democratic candidates and up to 20 percent for Republican candidates."
I didn't remember the "up to" qualifiers, so I guess the average numbers are somewhat below that.
J Street looks pretty good BTW, let's see if they can survive battling against AIPAC or not... Only other Jews can take on AIPAC, as any non-jew will be labeled an anti-Semite. Being labeled a "self hating Jew" doesn't have quite the same effect.
GoGreen, interesting numbers there. I don't think they're accurate. Care to provide a link?
Only a sociopath (or perhaps a psychopath) would go by the screen name "Ariel_Sharon".
@NativeSon
American Jews contribute 40% of the Democrats total contributions, and 20% to Republicans. Its the power jewish Americans have over the US government that makes the US bend to every wish of Israel. Make sure you know the cause and effect.
There are plenty of Americans (even some jewish ones) that are just as pissed with US's unconditional support of Israel as you are. Personally, I'm ready for the "special relationship" the US has with Israel to be totally and permanently severed. But that is wishful thinking for now, as unfortunately Ariel Sharon (the real one) was right, "the Jewish people control America and the Americans know it."
Hey folks leave 'Ariel' alone:
When you're one of "Gods Chosen"----or their American lackeys, you can do ANYTHING you want to anyone you want, anytime, anywhere--but especially on the land you steal from others, and any land close to it---after all that's what the Israeli lackeys (USA) have been doing since 1776-----and they are GOOD at it.
Besides, those orphans should have surrendered their weapons when they were given the chance, that is what they get for hiding behind those Hamas criminals, you know the ones elected by the Palestinian elections----you know those elections that GW Bush and the USA wanted them to have.........
Rock it to em, sock it to em, GO
GOD GOOOOOOOOOOO! Yea God!
Those will be some wonderful childhood memories for those little Palestinian children to think about in the future...
If the Hindus are right, next time I'm coming back as a Jew.
"Israel" is a war criminal enterprise.
Get them while they're young?
FYI, a video of Israeli Army raid on the orphanage and Seth Freedman's take on it.
Israeli military targeting civilians is immoral and illegal. F them and their promised land BS. Land grabs pure and simple. They need to leave the Palestinians alone to live on their own land and get out of where they don't belong. Settlers? They are thieves.
Sharon: It also takes a certain kind of blindness to always define any government action as the correct one, or justified. I am no lefty but I do ask that you read the article. Several of the sources quoted are Israeli government sources, so check this out and see if this is true rather than just assume that government sources are either lying about their own policy or the reporter is lying.
Now if we assume that the Israeli's are actually shutting down services Hamas provides then this is a phenomenally stupid move. The people will know who shut down their lifeline and will certainly be convinced to radicalize in favor of Hamas, not against it.
The path to peace in the middle east is actually not as hard as everyone makes out.
What continues to astonish me is how 'righties' insist that more and more military power and agression will finally work...despite 50 years of this policy actually not working at all. Soon the USA will be too weak to back up Israel and she will fall if she cannot find another way to deal with her neighbors.
But please, Just keep banging your head harder against the mountain, I'm sure it will crumble one day.
what got the black panther party for self defense in trouble wasn't walking around the hood with guns. it was their hugely-popular and wildly-successful free breakfast program for school children. imagine delivering social services for people in need, under the baleful glare of a society that wishes they would simply and quietly die.
that kind of thing sets a bad example.
lol what complete BULLSHIT!!!
Only a media pathetically in the employ of hamas could come up with this one. Israel did not target an "orphange". Israel targeted hamas terrorists using an "orphange" as cover for their activities. I would not be at all suprised if there was not a single child at this so called orphange. Hamas will often build command and control centers in preschools, so it wouldn't suprise me one bit if they put one in an orphange.
You lefties scraped the bottom of the barrel for this one.