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Israel Hints at Pre-emptive Attack on Iran
WASHINGTON - The sabre-rattling over Iran's nuclear progamme has grown louder as a defiant Tehran claimed to have conducted missile tests for a second day running, the US warned that it would defend its interests and its allies in the region, and Israel hinted it was ready to stage a preventive attack to destroy Iranian nuclear installations.
With the latest tests - and the wide front-page coverage given to them by the national media - Tehran is signalling it will not be cowed by international pressure to end a programme which the West suspects is aimed at producing nuclear weapons, and that any attack by the US or Israel will be answered in kind.
The tests, including launching the 1,250-mile range Shahab-3 missile that can hit Israel, should be "a lesson to our enemies", the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard was quoted as saying. But some of the talk may be bravado. Pentagon officials told CNN that surveillance suggested only a single missile was fired yesterday, apparently one that failed to launch on Wednesday.
Even so, the show of strength drew an unprecedentedly blunt response from Washington and Israel. No one should doubt US resolve, said Condoleezza Rice, the Secretary of State, on a visit to Georgia. "We are sending a message to Iran that we will defend American interests and the interests of our allies."
More ominously, Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, noted pointedly that while diplomatic pressure remained the preferred way of persuading Iran to halt uranium enrichment, Israel "has proved in the past it is not afraid to take action when its vital security interests are at stake".
Not by coincidence, the country also put on display one of its state-of-the-art Eitam spy aircraft, whose intelligence-gathering abilities would be vital in any co-ordinated assault on Iran's nuclear installations. This latest publicity only reinforces the message sent by Israel's recent military air exercises over the eastern Mediterranean, widely seen as a dress rehearsal for such an attack.
Most analysts believe that for all bellicose talk, a pre-emptive attack, by the US at least, is most unlikely. "Everyone recognises what the consequences of a conflict would be," the Defence Secretary Robert Gates warned, among them possible closure of the oil lifeline through the Strait of Hormuz, the risk of generalised war in the Middle East and immense new strains on the fragile global economy.
Pentagon commanders too do not want to plunge the country's overstretched armed forces into another war. An attack would be "extremely stressful" for US forces, Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the country's top uniformed officer, warned a few days ago.
But the jitters have been increased by the political calendar in Washington and Jerusalem. From a US perspective, if the Bush administration is to strike, it probably has to do so before the general election campaign moves into high gear this autumn. The possibility - many would say likelihood - that the next President will be the Democrat, Barack Obama, who favours negotiation with Iran, only heightens the urgency for anti-Iran hawks.
In Jerusalem, a corruption scandal could bring down the Mr Omert's government in September. This is another reason for Israel, if it is determined to go ahead, to act sooner rather than later, even alone and without the explicit collaboration of the US.
© 2008 The Independent



177 Comments so far
Show AllMr. Conyers, could we please impeach them *before* they destroy the planet instead of after?
If Israel is hinting at an attack it probably means they wont do it.
little kids acting tough.
Be my friend or I will stab you with this missile.
Oil popped $147+/bbl this morning. The Dow-Jones dropped briefly under 11000. And Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac have dropped 1/2 their share value.
The US economy is in the tank, and the only trick the US knows how to use when that happens is to start a war to 'boost' the economy.
It only helps the MIC.
And because the US is stretched so thin militarily, Bushco will probably get Israel to strike the first blow, then leap to it's 'ally's' defense, setting off EXACTLY the thing we need to avoid most, a war that will consume the wider Middle East.
Also, Bush admitted this morning, on camera, that demand for oil has outstripped supply. He is pushing hard for deep water drilling, drilling ANWR and the oil shale.
That is the final, fatal admission that Peak Oil is here.
oooooooooh sheeeeeeeeeeet.................
Galen's really got it going on there. Might I add that the USDX dropped below 72.00 again today, something the cheerleaders said would never happen. Remember the expression, "What's good for GM is good for the USA"? GM stock's lower than in the last 50 years, and bankruptcy is not "off the table".
If all hell does break loose, and the US does go bankrupt, I'm willing to wager that more than 50% of Americans will blame the ragheads for the bankruptcy, and most of the rest will blame China.
A fatally wounded dog will expend it's last ounce of energy biting it's master, if the master is not careful.
Be careful.
Wouldnt an Israeli attack at the behest of George and Dick quickly involve China and Russia after Tehran retaliates? The events that will soon unfold were all to take place last September.We have the brave senior military officials,who were recently sacked,to thank for their mini-coup.Those nukes that were on that wayward military plane were on their way to Israel.They need this type to get to the underground bunkers that need to be destroyed to halt or delay Iranian nuclear ambitions.A coup the American people never were told about.
Englehart assumes rational decision-making on the part of the Bush administration. I wouldn't bet on it.
once again, domestic considerations, such as olmert's legal woes and mccain's election prospects, seem to be driving this bus, rather than any actual danger posed by iran.
(rhetorical question alert) where are the "good americans and israelis" who understand that the threat of attack, according to the nuremburg verdicts, is in itself a war crime?
apparently, they're nowhere to be found in the knesset or congress. can it be that only senior military can prevent this madness from advancing?
General Betray-us was just confirmed by the Senate as the new Cent-Comm commander over Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. I don't see any remaining barriers to a full scale attack by Israel/U.S. with a green light from Washington.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hrU54OJYzx1CLUePys9miH-YsIxAD91R5CCG0
Wait a minute!
Do you REALLY believe anyone, let alone Bush, who tells you that "demand for oil has outstripped supply" when in the next breath "[h]e is pushing hard for deep water drilling, drilling ANWR and the oil shale"???
Yeah right . . . CREATE an oil crisis and ask Naomi Klein what happens next!
Bear in mind that if the US/Israel are insane enough to attack Iran, the US will not just have to deploy weapons to Iran, BUT TO EVERY COUNTRY BORDERING ISRAEL!
No-Brainer.
Predictable for over a year.
Will result in various escalations, justification for US involvement, and a massive firestorm, polarizing countries around the world.
Also: the tremendous chaos will create a great cover for the Bush team to escape accountability for a good long time. Will also put Obama in a very difficult position. Israel too, will be able to gain ascendency in the region, possbily go "nuc-ul-er," and accomplish other important goals.
Good guess: the guys at the top have thought through a thorough strategic game plan on this.
Control of the remaining oil supplies >>>
Long live the Empire!
Oh, dude. To futher buttress my re-enforcements of Galen's comments about how war may be the preferred option in the face of a massive financial collapse...
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/11/news/companies/fannie_freddie_shares/index.htm?cnn=yes
I still maintain that these wars are not about oil, they are about money.
A most scary day.
Somebody please whack that mole!
Yet another friggin reason why Israel doesn't need to exist.
See movie The Pianist for a glimpse of how far this insanity could go. Then call Congress to support impeachment, oppose Resolution 362!
And make up your minds now to never give up, to commit to the view that this is not just about us but about our children and our grandchildren and the possibility of human survival in a sustainable society. We have no right to give up or give in!
Our situation is very far from that of the last Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, but it is worth considering this question whenever we are tempted to fall into despair and cynicism.
Why did they rise up when their situation was completely hopeless? The movie reminds us that the uprising was not seen by them as a lost cause, but as a legacy for those who came after! And of all the victims of the Ghetto, they were most blessed, for they met their fate as free people making their own choices and living for something larger than themselves.
So buck up, and start calling congress, editors, friends, lists, about impeachment and blocking Resolution 362 (see today's yesterday's and Wednesday's CD) and whatever else we can do to try to block this war or at least to help more people understand what's happening.
Does anyone else find it interesting that Israel ..Rattles the sabres a little louder the same day that Iraq say's.."Get..the fuck..OUT!"?
I think this whole Attack Iran nightmare..an INSANE "Plan"...has been cooked up to combat this EXACT potential reality..that iraq would Kick BushCo Out...So..the U.S. of A-ssholes concoct this plan to ..threaten and rattle and covertly fuck with everyone until they...destablize the region..to a point that..even Soverign nations will say.."Okay..if the U.S is here..Israel..won't bomb their number one Financial supporter..and Best buddy and Bully boy..so..let's just allow them to..'stay'...and..oh..while they're at it..maybe we CAN make some kind of..'give em all our oil' deal...I mean..what the fuck..why not...keep insane warmongering Fascist Israel off our backs...guess it's our only option.."
See how that works..It's really fairly TIDY..in a perversly evil sort of way...destabilization as a means of deal making...sound familiar? ..sound like..FLORIDA in 2000? or..like..New York and the nation after 9-11?..this is the PNAC in action..the THINK TANK take over..the Corporate Fascist Theocracies "COUP'"...they didn't just..JUST steal an ELECTION..they actually conducted a TAKE-OVER of the American Government..a real actual COUP'...and it worked...but..like ALL fascists..they have these..."Weakness'"...such as ..insane overconfidence...vicious back stabbing "Morality"..etc..etc..and as a result..ALWAY'S "ATTACK RUSSIA IN THE WINTER"..read: overstep their actual capabilities..and overstate thir own "cleverness"..true believers..do NOT usually have a real..ACCURATE idea of the REALITY of the world around them..WHY would you resort to FORCE, LIES, TORTURE...Stolen ELECTIONS..if you DID understand the world around you? WHY?..the reason they do what they do..is because they do not CARE to "Understand"...they just want it THEIR WAY...period!..and so...they ALWAY'S...Fuck everything up..and allot of peole have their lives ruined..and then they fade..until the next 'Shadow Government' and the NEXT..blahh..blahh..blaaaah..you get ti..or you don't..I don't care..fuck it!
Adios fellow Timesters...horde those Cigs. yer gonna need em..
" Also, Bush admitted this morning, on camera, that demand for oil has outstripped supply. He is pushing hard for deep water drilling, drilling ANWR and the oil shale.
That is the final, fatal admission that Peak Oil is here."
And, you believe Bush (of all-people!)?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9557
There is no 'oil-shortage' (nor, sad to say, any shortage of greedy-Interests causing/exploiting unregulated-and-murderous Capitalism).
Whoa dudes it's all about the oil. Good commondreamers will remember that a compendium of intelligence agencies conluded Iran had suspended their nuclear bomb program in 2003. That Iran had even put on "the table" a proposal for joint international development of nuke plants inspected by participating partners. And the small observation that Chaney/Bush Murder Inc. had the option of using Israel as a serogate warslut to cleverly finesse their way around the gutless wonder demos. Petroleum jelly anyone?
Insane people do insane things. The Israeli's will strike Iran and the U.S. will support them militarily. Having learned nothing from Iraq, the American People will support war with Iran. Stupidity has it's awful rewards and we will reap them fully. Get prepared now.
Errr...what American interests are there in Israel?
Israel won't do anything without Executive and Congressional approval - like dropping cluster bombs on children and bunker busters on civilian bomb shelters. The Jewish State is obviously not the only war criminal on this planet.
Jcrumb July 11th, 2008 1:14 pm: "Does anyone else find it interesting that"
Yes, I think you are on to something there. Don't be too concerned though. It can only go so far.
If it is all based on acquiring oil to support military infrastructure that is used to again grab more oil, it has to collapse at some point. That point is tied to the scarcity of oil. Can the US air force run on wind power? I don't think so.
Those of us in the real world are getting rather tired of US gov. shenanigans and would rather they were weaned off foreign conquest now before we are faced with them having to go "cold turkey" in a mad scramble back from their, how many?, seven hundred bases worldwide. You are just going to have to find a more creative way to manage rivalries with China, India and other emerging powers.
My thoughts: Russia will attack us if we attack Iran. China owns our economy and is on Iran's side. If Israel does a Pre-emptive strike, China can cripple us economically. They own our debt and much more.
Our ships will be bombed as well as, as Iran has threatened this, and our soldiers will be bombed in the 'Green zone'. They are like sitting ducks.
If the Zionist leaders of Israel are that dumb than maybe it is best the people that live there get out and leave as their leaders are insane. If the orthodox jews that live in the settlements think they are better than us and the Palestinians, than they will die in flames as they are in the middle of hell. Hell is what the Jews will find themselves in if Israel starts this. They will have to re-think how bad they want their great savior to come back, if they have no life period as they are DEAD.
Too many countries, including Saudi Arabia caught in the middle. They can't like these missiles being lobbed over them and around them. The whole Middle East will be involved in this one. I don't see it happening unless they are all NUTS. The Jews need to quit being bullies and get along, or Russia and China will be down their backs. With the anger over the Missile shield, Russia will go over the edge. They are becoming the new world power, the US isn't anymore. The Dollar is worthless, our economy is worthless, we don't have enough soldiers to fight all these wars, we are done if this happens.
they will have to impose a draft if there is war with iran. CANADA PLEASE OPEN YOUR BORDERS FOR WAR RESISTERS!! this war will creep into everyones life whether they like it or not, the first place they will notice is when they pump their gas for $11 a gallon, not to mention loaves of bread for $6. the government might even try to ration goods a la ww2. I will never vote democrat again!
As I mentioned before, there is talk amongst the highest strategists in the Pentagon that we have one carrier in the Middle East that is about to be decommissioned and scrapped at the end of this deployment. It was discussed that if that carrier were to be sunk by "Iran" that would be a perfect excuse to launch an all out nuclear attack on Iran.
I don't think these madmen would even bat an eye at sinking a carrier with its three thousand sailors aboard if it would serve as another 9-11 to fire up the people behind Bu$hCo and their insatiable desire for war and its attendant profit.
With all the firepower massed in the ME right now, I would really be chary of accepting any provocation to war without a careful investigation to rule out another Gulf of Tonkin, 9-11, type of black operation. We are really good at that little ploy.
Also, remember the "missing" nuclear armed cruise missile. If something gets hit, it is really hard to identify whether is is ours or "Theirs."
After yesterday I just don't give a damn any more and I got three grandchildren.
They are going to find a way to shit on us all sooner or later anyway. It's ok by me if they take themselves down with the rest of us.
It is obvious from the above discussion that it is really Israel and Bush/Cheney who are terrorizing the American people. The constant threat to bomb bomb bomb Iran is as much psychological warfare against US as it is anything else. It destabilizes the Psyche and disrupts clear thinking, just as 9/11 did.
Also, the threat to bomb bomb bomb Iran is probably the most significant reason for the speculation in oil, and gas at over $4 a gallon. Our government is fucking us in the ass and we are trying to blame it on someone else.
We need a National Stay at Home Day.
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homeward-angel:they will have to impose the draft....
What do YOU call Stop-Loss and redeployments up to seven times, many suffering from PTSD and TBI?
If it occurs, WWIII, they would be incredibly foolish to attempt such a thing. I don't take the show of muscle for actual outcome.
The Zionist regime is the modern day Nazi movement. They routinely start wars, bomb non-combatants, exterminate children like one might squash a cock roach. They do exactly what they want, when the want it, with little regard for international standards of justice. They also hold the largest nuclear arsenal in the middle east.
If an attack does occur, as seems more likely by the day, then oil will rise to $400/barrel at a minimum. As someone mentioned earlier, the consumers of the wrecked world economy should then pay back Israel in kind by boycotting forever all Israeli products and products made with Israeli parts.
Israel has not got the nuts to do it. Now if Iran had more schools and hospitals then Israel would have a target.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
- Albert Einstein
We don't think for a moment, do we, that all of this is not being coordinated between Israel and the United States? How else can the US justify getting in a war with Iran? The US doesn't have the money to start another war having spent every dime in the National coffers and then borrowing billions from China that our grandchildren will have to pay for to pay for the war in Iraq. Of course here is a thought: what will the US do with all those unemployed servicemen who would come home from Iraq were the Iraq war be stopped with a new Democratic president? Well Democrats know what to do, they create social programs like fixing roads, fixing national parks, building schools, hiring qualified soldiers as teachers, as firemen, you know, do something for the American people, instead of feeding the bank accounts of the war machines corporate moguls. What would a Republican administration do? Whine about the horrible rise in unemployment returning soldiers would cause, have an allergy to any social programs that would put the returning soldiers to work, and find ways to continue wars to keep feeding the war machine corporate moguls. Isn't this a no brainer or what?
Pre-emptive attacks are against all international law.
Whoever tries this is the equal of Nazi Germany, who "pre-emptively" attacked Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Russia.
What could the Israelis be thinking?
Or is Cheney thinking for them because he wants the Iranian oil?
So, Israel attacks Iran, and we are responsible for the consequences. If they attack without authorization from our Congress, we should let them hang on their own. We have enough s--t to clean up after with the idiot bush to pick up after ...
Why would homeward angel "never vote democrat (sic) again"--when this war is all about Cheney?
it's a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires who feel that their world is falling apart (in an approximate manner some of us feel ours is except their's is all about wealth and power and ours the destruction of the natural world) including fight a war half way around the other side world on at least partially false pretenses, in order to preserve their way of life here, in gated communities and expansive tracts of wilderness that they own, even if many of us lose ours, in our subdivisions and cheap rental apartments. But we don't matter.
All to have far more than they need, while saying one thing and meaning something completely other. So that hearing or reading anything they say is such double speak that it's downright dizzy and nauseating and requires hours to study and pick apart the twists of logic and the machinations, or just give in and be numbed.
They would surrender their idea of what they think they deserve, being of a superior species, as reluctantly as would your plantation Confederate during Reconstruction - deserving for ever what they acquired by force in the first place, like any thief who won't contemplate the nature of his crime. Which is for the most part that they will give up nothing at all if they can get away with it, which they believe they will - not even the right to destroy the natural world in order to do so, which they believe belongs to them anyway.
1) Omert leaving,
2) Bush leaving - needing, desperately, to have a memorable place in world history books,
3) New "missiles" in Poland,
ETC. ETC. ETC ++++++++++
It's NOT oil or money - it's WORLD POWER.
The "scepter" was handed to Israel when it was declared, by the "West" to be a sovereign nation, in a land that the "West" determined to be "sacred" to all of the "West".
Whoa dude and dudetdettes- it is ALL ABOUT THE OIL- 1. a compendium of multilaired US intelligence agencies concluded in 11/07 that Iran had suspended their nuke bomb development program in 2003. 2. Iran had cleverly put " on the table" a proposal that a group of international countries partner the development of Iranian nuke plants - a byproduct of which would be 24/7 inspection by this group of partners- Iran could do this with impunity because they know that the last thing the OIL MOB wants is transparancy. 3.One of many clever options that Cheney/Bush MURDER INC. was the use of Israel as it's serougate WAR WHORE- to trun their little trick on the gutless wonder Dems. Petroleum jelly anyone - this might be a slippery slope.
Threats are only effective (by sane people) if they intend to carry them out.
The insane (and manipulative people) threaten all the time. Can't tell what they'll do.
Can anyone tell me if there is definitive proof that Tehran is enriching uranium for military usage or is, as they claim, building nuclear facilities for the production of electricity?? It would seem that this matters....not to Bush or Cheney of course but it should matter a heck of a lot to the American people.
I cannot help but seem a bit pessimistic frankly as the people of my nation seem not to care that our government is the number one terrorist organisation in the world.
Do ya think we've provoked Iran enough, or should we have a team of sabre dancers to rattle and dance on their border?
Man! Threats are Bushco's idea of diplomacy. Except that with his major in history at Yale he knows better.
SETTING: Office of manager of warehousing for Iranian Nuclear Programme.
Manager: So, Omar, have you found out what has been happening to all of our copy paper and copy machine ink?
Omar the Fink: Yes, I investigated thoroughly, and I have the answers. Here is my report.
Manager: I'll read your report later. Just tell me, what have our employees been up to?
Omar the fink: Resumes, sir! they've been churning out copies of their resumes.
Manager: They want to leave their jobs here at the nuclear facility?
Omar the fink: Yes sir! They seem to want to switch to a completely different field of work.
Manager: And, what's that you have in your other hand, Omar?
Omar the fink: Well, first ,sir, I want to say that it has been an honour to work under your leadership,...however, I have received a job offer from...
SETTING: Office of manager of warehousing for Iranian Nuclear Programme.
Manager: So, Omar, have you found out what has been happening to all of our copy paper and copy machine ink?
Omar the Fink: Yes, I investigated thoroughly, and I have the answers. Here is my report.
Manager: I'll read your report later. Just tell me, what have our employees been up to?
Omar the fink: Resumes, sir! they've been churning out copies of their resumes.
Manager: They want to leave their jobs here at the nuclear facility?
Omar the fink: Yes sir! They seem to want to switch to a completely different field of work.
Manager: And, what's that you have in your other hand, Omar?
Omar the fink: Well, first ,sir, I want to say that it has been an honour to work under your leadership,...however, I have received a job offer from...
SETTING Office of the manager of warehousing for the Iranian Nuclear Programme.
Manager sitting at his desk.
Enter, stage left, Omar the Fink.
Manager; Well, Omar, have you found out what has been happening to all of our paper and copy ink?
Omar the Fink: Yessir! I have it all here in my report.
Manger; Put it into my in tray, I'll read it later.
Omar the Fink: Of course, sir!
Manager: So, just tell me. What is it that your fellow employees up to?
Omar the Fink: Resumes, sir! They are churning out copies and copies of their resumes.
Manager: They want to leave their high tech jobs here?
Omar the Fink: They all seem to bo looking for a complete career change, sir.
Manager: What's that envelope in your hand, Omar?
Omar the Fink; Sir, first, I want to say that it has been an honour to work under your leadership...
...but I have been offered a position with...
Look, do we have low yield, low radiation tactical nukes? Something we could use on selected targets in air bursts and not leave a radioactive wasteland behind?
Israel goes after Iran, Iran retaliates, we step in because otherwise the Israelis are toast. Because our conventional forces are stretched so thin we can't protect our ally adequately, so we use our arsenal of tactical nukes and subdue Iran while demonstrating that it isn't a good idea to mess with the crazy Westerners. We use Iraq as a base to exercise control over a now very pissed off but relatively docile Mid East.
Worked for over half a century last time we did it.
Whaddya think?
Yes, oil is a valuable tool for global domination, but the name of the game is global domination. Oil is merely a means to that end.
Watch "The Money Masters" (google video) if you're ready to have your notions of western history turned inside out. It's about the central banks, enslavement of the world's population through taxes to pay interest on the national debt (ever wonder why a sovereign nation that can print its own money needs a "national debt"?).
goeff29----where in tarnation have you been? I have slumped into a major depression without you here on CD---not even enough energy to post a feeble response. Seriously, I had given up on you. Hope it was because you took a good long sojourn from the news. Should have done it myself.
And as always, your clear eyed vision is welcome by some of us and passed right over by those who would argue the details and miss the big picture.
HELP!!!! I am once again losing heart! Time to focus on the "other reality". You know what I mean. The one where people are coming together and doing really good things for themselves and their neighbors, for mother Gaia, and for all of us. I know that too, is going on, so how to get that Light-filled scenario to be truly seen and leave this darkness to run it's awful course without all the good people brandishing their wooden swords in the face of it?
Someone needs to do a preemptive attack on Isael.