"physicscitizen July 9th, 2008 11:05 pm

I wonder why my previous comment is still 'waiting moderation'….I didn't think it was bad at all."

Just checked for it to see what it says and it's evidently not going to be posted. When I post, the it does sometimes, actually often enough, appear and the first thing shown under my name, time of posting, ..., is a message in italics and stating that the post is flagged for moderation, so to be verified before WordPress, which likes to censor plenty that deserves no censorship whatsoever, accepts the post, finally.

If you submit a post and it doesn't appear as just described, then it's not awaiting moderation; it simply has been rejected and without a notice. You only see that after the page reloads, your submission is not posted.

WP is a lousy service and it's odd that CD continues to use it, especially when WP has been doing this crap it does for many enough years now at or with CD. Or maybe it's part of CD, or somehow associated and not just as a service to CD and other websites that use WP.

chris antonelli July 9th, 2008 7:16 pm -- "America's persent oligarchs are far less enlightened than even those of the Roman Empire."

One can only hope that both the duration and the ultimate fate of the American imperium will confirm its short-sightedness in the near future. It would be quite fitting to see nothing but an historical footnote indicating that the British empire's rebellious successor squandered its pre-eminent emergence from two world wars within a century.

physicscitizen July 9th, 2008 11:05 pm -- "I wonder why my previous comment is still 'waiting moderation'"

It seems to be a random occurence and, when it happens for no apparent reason, your orignal message may never show up. Try changing a few words to avoid a duplicate posting error and repost.

I wonder why my previous comment is still 'waiting moderation'....I didn't think it was bad at all.

Talking about dumb people, the US has at least three quarters of low intellengent people, In the US three things are missing that they never have or perhaps could not muster: 1.Common sense,2. Quality and 3.Integrity.

Topolanek should be OUSTED together with the black lady Condi [ bush little Voodoo doll, she is also known as the asistant Warmonger of her boss Bush Chief Warmonger.]

Over 70% of the population of Czech Republic oppose this. And the overwhelming majority demanded a referendum on it as well. Of course, our corporate media does not tell us these facts.

They also neglect to tell Americans that there are thought police laws in the Czech Republic as well. It is illegal to call for collective ownership of industry (i.e. socialism). Leftists are frequently blacklisted from employment. The Czech Republic is semi-fascist and the right-wing regime is opposed by the majority of the population. Of course, US corporate media would never let these facts out!

BTW, here is a link to a site protesting this: http://www.basesoutnow.org/

Well, the Prague Daily Monitor evidently isn't a respectable news source, either. Saying 'hundreds' protested in the title of the piece, while reporting that thousands protested, even saying that the police reported nearly 2,000, indicates that the writer's either not particularly bright, or is dishonest, ...; or both.

It could very much be both. After all, it's not bright to be dishonest. Just consider Bush, Cheney, and so on, and their foreign allies, all having power, and only due to many dumb and evil-souled people supporting them, and similar others profiting from them; all while being atrociously DUMB. After all, if they were really bright, then they either would NOT align themselves with evil, or else they'd fool far more people than they did. They didn't fool most people in the world, because we were not dumb, but [alert] and fast of wit, principled, .... Only the [dumbed] down, brainwashed, ... were fooled.

And the PDM writer also saying that only 'several tens' protested in Warsaw indicates that the writer is again not paying attention to writing correctly.

'several tens'? Of what missing number; hundreds, thousands, millions (far better!)? We normally don't see 'several' used in that combined sort of way; we'd normally see several hundred, ... thousand, ... million, ...; or, 'tens of hundreds', ....

Maybe it's that the article was first written correctly, but in Czech, and the translation caused the screwy wording.

Or maybe it was in French, or Czech uses similar phrasing, for French does have 'plusieurs dixaines' (or dizaines, but singular is dix); and that literally translates into, 'many tens' or 'several tens', with the 'several' or 'many' (tens) depending only on context (what's written about or is verbally referred to).

But French does not translate thousands or millions into anything like 'several tens' or even 'hundreds' (as the title of the PDM article says 'hundreds' and the text begins with this repeated). I doubt those "atomic" uses of 'hundreds' is due to mis-translation, but maybe the person doing the translation employs lousy translation software, or is arithmetically inept.

So what else is not true in the article?
Well, I don't know what other flaws in the piece may be; but the protesting surely did happen. After all, it's not a new "thing" in that region and for the same reason that this Czech protest happened.

There have been articles at www.globalresearch.ca over the past year or so on protests against the U.S. (-NATO-Europe) aggression- or empire-missile systems being proposed for placement in Poland, the Czech Republic, and I think also Romania; while possibly also other countries, perhaps Georgia, Latvia, ..., say. Whatever they are all are, these many enough countries can surely be found in explicit terms in articles at Global Research and surely other websites; perhaps the Brussels Tribunal one would be good to check.

Maybe they'll want to establish such a U.S-NATO-Europe base also in their so-called "liberated" Kosovo; or perhaps convert the huge Camp Bondsteel to include such a missile system, if there isn't already one in place there.

And, again, there've been multiple protests in some of those countries. The honest, innocent, real citizens and good politicians there have NOT wanted these missile systems established in their countries and have protested, opposed a number of times. The only people there siding with U.S.-... empire building, i.e., expansion, are the crooks, thugs, ... and citizens who are tragically dumb.

70%, 7mn out of 10mn, in Poland being opposed is a strong indication that [most] citizens there are certainly not dumb; and that Western empire is being very [imposed] against national sovereignties, human rights, ....

Well, hopefully the Czech Parliament will have enough honesty to tell the U.S., et al, to take a hike; like over high cliffs overlooking jagged rocks or plenty of large white sharks that are particularly hungry and ready for feasting, say. Or they could tell them to get lost in a big and deep black hole, one preferably far from Earth. Any of the three options would suit me just fine.

Empire Romans, slave-holding, semi-benign quasi-fascitsts that they were, at least tried to build clean water aquaducts, public baths, small business commercial fora, hospital-like sanitoria, roads, bridges, common gardens, and even afforbable mass housing, for the peoples they conquered. Barbaric as Roman methods were in many respects, the balance of their thinkers and emperors believed in and acted toward improving the material lot of Humanity as requisite to a better (if exclusively Roman) world.

By historical comparison, most of America's current Empire heads have no such context perception at all -- it has been bred out of them through a society-wide, pathological value system that legitimates tunnel-visioned greed -- even at the expense of their own survival and that of their personal progeny.

It is something historically painful and existentially horrific to behold, but I think nevertheless true: America's persent oligarchs are far less enlightened than even those of the Roman Empire.

The US respects democratic decision-making ONLY if it conforms to its objectives, like when the US public was propagandized into believing the claims about Saddam's links to al-Qa'eda, WMD, ect. Yet, if 70% of Czechs don't want to participate in a US military imperialist project-- maybe the missiles are to protect against Iranian missiles, more likely to project power easward, namely, towards Russia-- it is irrelevant. As another example, it is irrelevant that the government elected by Palestinians, Hamas, is not allowed to participate in the "peace process," but rather, that the US and the "international community" attempted to strangle the Palestinian "government" economically immediately upon election, and trained militias, putatively alligned with Fatah, to overthrow the government before being preempted by Hamas's June 2007 "coup." The US claims to have brought "democracy" to Iraq and saved its people from barabrism; yet, one thing that Iraqis are united in is that they want the US occupiers to leave, or set a timetable to do so. Yet, an Obama administration is likely to maintain a troop "presence," as the US media refer to it, for some time to come, at least until "Western" oil corporations don't need the protection of a military, a US one anyway.

At least no protestors got beat down as they would have in a lot of other countries.

There is a price to be paid when "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind" is ignored by any state. Even the Romans were smart enough to recognise that geopolitical strategies based on Caligula's hate and fear (oderint dum metuant) policy do have some practical limits.

The U.S., on the other hand, seems to be increasingly reliant upon that singular approach to world domination, and I can't quite make up my mind whether such arrogant blindness to long-term self-interest is bad or good in the circumstances.