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The Mind and the Obama Magic
Barack Obama should not move, or even appear to be moving, toward right-wing views on issues -- even with nuanced escape clauses. Arianna Huffington, Paul Krugman, and the NY Times Editorial Page all agree, for various reasons. I agree as well, for many of the same reasons, as well as important reasons that go beyond even excellent political commentary. My reasons have to do with results in the cognitive and brain sciences, as discussed in my recent book, The Political Mind: Why You Can't Understand 21st Century Politics with an 18th Century Brain.
But before I get into the details, it is important to get a sense of why Obama might be "moving to the Right." There are at least three possibilities. The first is for political expediency. The second is to reassure voters that he is a responsible leader, not a crazy radical. The third is that he thinks that nuanced positions don't have the effect of the moving to the right.
Let's start with the first possibility -- expediency, the one assumed by most observers.
The Political Expediency Argument
The usual political wisdom is (1) voters vote on the basis of positions on issues, (2) there is a left-to-right spectrum of voters defined by positions on issues, (3) most voters are in the "center." Polls are constructed to appear consistent with this tri-partite hypothesis. The Dick Morris strategy, based on this hypothesis, says: if a Democrat moves the Right, he will get more votes because he will "take away" the other side's issues. If Obama and his advisors believe this, then the more they more to the Right, the bigger their win should be. But all three hypotheses are false, and so is the conclusion based on it.
First, voters mostly vote not on the details of positions on issues, but on five aspects of what might be called "character," as Richard Wirthlin discovered in the 1980 Reagan campaign. They are Values (What are the ethical principles that form the basis of your politics?); Authenticity (Do you say what you believe?); Communication (Do you connect with voters and inspire them?); Judgment; Trust; and Identity (If you share voters' values, connect with them, tell them the truth effectively while inspiring trust, then they will identify with you -- and they will voter for you. Positions on issues matter when they come to stand symbolically for values. Reagan and George W. Bush understood this. Carter, Mondale, Gore, and Kerry did not. And in the primaries. Hillary Clinton did not get it (she focused on policy, while Obama and McCain focused more on character, on who he was).
Values, authenticity, communication, judgment, and trust are not irrational reasons for voting for a president, even over positions on specific issues. The reason is that situations change, and what you rationally wind up depending on are just those virtues.
Obama introduced himself to the primary voters not as a policy wonk, but as a person of character, who announced his values, said what he believed (no pussyfooting), communicated beautifully and powerfully, and gave examples of his good judgment -- he was someone you could trust and identify with. That was a major part of the Obama magic. If Obama even appears to adopt Right-wing views for the sake of getting more votes, he will appear to be giving up on his values, renouncing his authenticity and believability, clouding his judgment, and raising questions about whether he can be trusted. The Obama magic will be in danger of fading.
Let us now turn to the second reason. There are two major modes of thought in American politics -- conservative and progressive, what I've called "strict" and "nurturant." We all grow up with brains exposed to both and capable of using both, but usually in different areas of life. Some people are conservative on foreign policy and progressive on domestic policy, or conservative on economic issues and progressive on social issues -- or the reverse. There is no left-to-right linear spectrum; all kinds of combinations occur. I've called such folks "biconceptuals." Brainwise, they show a common situation called "mutual inhibition," where two modes of thought are possible but the activation of one inhibits the other. The more you activate a conservative mode of thought, the more you inhibit the progressive mode of thought -- and the more likely it is that the conservative mode of thought will spread to other issues.
Interestingly, many people who call themselves "conservatives" actually think like progressives on a range of issue areas. For example, many "conservatives" love the land as much as any environmentalist; want to live in communities where people care about each other, that is, have social not just individual responsibility; live progressive business principles of honestly, care for their employees, and care for the public; and have progressive religious values: helping the poor, caring for the sick, being good stewards of the God's creation, turning the other cheek. One view of "bipartisanship" for progressives is finding self-described conservatives and independents who have such progressive values and working with them on that basis. That's what Obama did when he went to Rick Warren's megachurch and it is his strategy in Project Joshua. Note that this is the opposite of the form of bipartisanship that involves really adopting right-wing values, or even appearing to. What this bipartisan strategy does, from the brain's viewpoint, is to activate the progressive mode of thought in the brains of conservatives, and thus tends to inhibit conservative thought.
But the form of bipartisanship that involves adopting, or appearing to adopt, right-wing views has the opposite effect. It strengthens conservative thought in the brains on those biconceptuals and weakens progressive thought. In short, it actually helps conservatives. Rather than "taking arguments away from them" it strengthens their basic values and hence all their arguments. It give conservatives more reason, not less, for voting for conservatives.
If Obama adopts, or appears to adopt, right-wing positions, he may still win, since McCain is such a weak candidate. But it will hurt Democrats running for office all up and down the ticket, since it will strengthen general conservative positions on all issues and hence work in the favor of conservative candidates.
As has often been said, if you are a conservative, why vote for the progressive spouting conservative views when you can vote for a real conservative?
In short, if Obama adopts, or appears to adopt, rightwing views, he will not only hurt himself, but also hurt other Democrats.
The Responsibility Position
Suppose that Obama's motivation is not political expediency, but rather an attempt to counter both rightwing and centrist stereotypes of progressives as being irresponsible.
Adopting, or appearing to adopt, rightwing positions is not going to work, and will only hurt, for reasons given above. What is the alternative?
In The Audacity of Hope, Obama portrays what I would call progressive ideals as simply American ideals, and he continued that account throughout the primary campaign. I think it is a correct account. And I think it is the key to uniting the country without adopting rightwing views. From this perspective, responsibility and the strength and judgment to act responsibly works with empathy (caring about other people) to define the basic American ideals: freedom, fairness, equality, opportunity, and so on. One can speak from this perspective of "full responsibility" both social and individual as central to the American vision, and they say what it means to be both responsible and committed to American ideals in each issue area. Moving to rightwing views, and abandoning American ideals, is never necessary to win.
The Nuanced Policy Position
It is possible to add nuance to a policy to make it look like you are moving to the right without actually doing so in policy terms. This can seem to do double duty, avoiding criticisms without making really substantive changes. It is an illusion.
When Obama ran for Senator in Illinois he had to at least appear to support Illinois industries -- coal, ethanol, and nuclear energy. He has used nuanced escape clauses, such as if it turns out to be economically feasible, while aware that sequestered coal, corn ethanol, and nuclear could not be economically feasible. Is this good politics? It may have been for a new senator, but it is not for a president. The reason again is that doing so activates a conservative mode of thought and inhibits a progressive mode of thought, making the move to real alternative energy that much harder.
Positions like this depend on a deep mistake about policy. There are two aspects to policy: cognitive and material. Material policy is about the nuts and bolts, how things are to work in the world. Cognitive policy is about what the public has to have in its brain/mind in order to fully support the right material policies. Coal, nuclear energy, and ethanol are policy disasters, and even giving them support with nuanced escape clauses hurts the possibility of real energy reform, but it activates, and hence strengthens, the conservative modes of thought that lie behind those proposals.
The bottom line: A nuanced policy that looks like a rightward move has the cognitive effect of a rightward move. Cognitive effects matter awfully in presidential campaigns.
Can You Avoid Attacks?
No. No matter how many rightwing views you move toward, you will be viciously attacked as too liberal, as influenced by radicals, as inexperienced, as unpatriotic, as all words and no content. Stick to your core values. Be yourself. Voters will respect you.
Why Understanding the Political Mind Matters
Politics looks different from the perspective of the cognitive and brain sciences. That is why I have written The Political Mind. Your arguments change when you start with how the brain and mind really work.


124 Comments so far
Show Allagree totally.
the last thing this country needs is a leader that tries to represent ALL OF THE PEOPLE.
Is it possible for anyone to represent ALL of the people?
Has Obama actually moved towards the right, or was he always to the right, except during his marvelous speeches during his primary campaign? ___ Is right right, or is right wrong? ___ Golly, I have lots of questions today.
There is nothing magical about a coward, and Obama has become one. All he has done in the past week is make this election a closer one.
I'm reminded of our last great squandered talent--bill clinton.
He has always been in the middle. Nothing new. If people would look at his voting record in Congress (when he DOES actually show up to vote. Mostly he hasn't as his Congressional record was to get elected for President), they will see he is a moderate in the way he votes. Not that much different from McCain or Hillary who are also moderates..or in the middle.
His statement that he would not bring home troops, if elected as President, until 16 months into his Presidency is something he has stated in the beginning. That is why I disliked him. He is for staying the course and escalating more war on Iran as well as the hills of Pakistan.
Some of us do listen to policies and stands taken by these candidates instead of rhetoric. Obama is rhetoric to me and no substance. Do and say what is needed to get the Presidency no matter what. I disagree with the article that people don't listen to Policy. Some of us do and we vote based on that. Obama is not a liberal or a Progressive. He is a moderate...and leans more to continuing the status quo.
As I have said...no surprise to me.
I honestly think the Democrats are going to have to loose another election in order for people to realize that the leaders of the Democratic party are not the hope of change, and that they are part of the problem and can never be part of the solution. The best outcome of the next one or two elections would be for all incumbents to be voted out, either Democrat or Republican. Starting over could never be as bad as the goons that are presently in office.
Obama should read this article. His move to the center is causing a lot of outrage among progressives who have supported him. Most of us simply want to know who the real Obama is.
Gee!
"There are at least two possibilities" why Obama is moving to the right (not center) (to anyone with a brain he's never had to move there in the first place). Hmmm... let's ponder this ad nauseum.
i don't have to read this pathetic drivel to know why he sounds like the rest of the political hacks...
hey clueless liberals, how about this one:
maybe he's bought and paid for by the corporate establishment like the rest of them.
VOTE NADER '08
There is little difference between the Democrats and Republicans. Both parties are at the beck and call of their corporate paymasters. Until all elections are publically financed this will not change. Obama is nothing more than an ambitious and opportunistic politician who has caved in to the oligarchy that really runs things in the US. It's time to throw off the yoke of corporate government and throw all the bastards out!
Thanks George! The other thing to remember is that the most important strategic block of voters is not the center, but rather the non-voters.
Historically, people have chosen not to vote because none of the candidates inspired them. Obama needs to continue to be inspiring and not water himself down.
Since 2000 (and probably before), people (mostly urban blacks, and other Democrats) have been forced not to vote by missing or broken voting machines, long lines, onerous registration requirements, subterfuge, disinformation, voter purges, intimidation and fraudulent spoilage of ballots, apparently by the election system (see Richard Hayes Phillips' study of Ohio balloting in 2004).
Please do all you can to help voters meet the newer, more onerous voting requirements in many states and get to the polls.
Boycott corporate Amerika!
How about a *third* reason Obama is moving to the right, George Lakoff. ...
3.) Obama is nothing more than a corporatist candidate -- with more corporate money behind him that John McCain! Obama is a fully-vetted corporatist candidate who is following the exact same strategy that Gore did in 2000 and Kerry did in 2004, and which led, inevitably, to their defeats.
This time-tested *failing* strategy is for the Democratic candidate to move to the right after he secures the nomination, so as to vie for the 1 or 2% of the voting electorate who may go either way, Republican or Democrat.
... Instead of realizing that a significant percentage of the electorate (much, much more than 1% or 2%) is considerably further to the left on all major issues.
If Obama contiues to follow this proven *losing* strategy, guess what: HE'S GONNA LOSE!
The closer Obama moves to McCain, the more people will either vote for McCain ("the real thing"), or else will see essentially no difference between the candidates and not vote at all.
Can you "cruise missile liberals" get that through your thick, oversocialized, delusional skulls???
WITH OBAMA'S STRATEGY OF MOVING TO THE RIGHT, HE'S GONNA LOSE!!!
Mondale in 1984 felt he had to move to the right after he secured the nomination and, guess what -- he lost!
Dukakis in 1988 felt he had to move to the right after he secured the nomination and, guess what -- he lost!
Gore did the same thing in 2000.
Kerry the same in 2004.
And the only reason Clinton won in 1992 and 1996 was because he ran as a "moderate" Republican.
So, Arianna Huffington, cut the crap! Publishing apologist, rationalizing nonsense from wishful thinkers like George Lakoff is transparently bogus. Barack Obam was NEVER a progressive. Barack Obama is nothing more than a figleaf who, if elected, will continue to support American imperialism; will continue to allow corporate money and corporate power to dominate not only life in the United States but life throughout the world.
And you know it.
If you truly want change, vote for change.
Vote for Nader or vote for McKinney or, better yet, vote for whatever socialist is "allowed" to run in your state. But don't vote for someone who is financed by and will
-- logically and inevitably -- serve the interests of the ruling class.
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Arianna Huffington, you've gotten a lot of mileage out of your "conversion" from supporting Republicans to now supporting Democrats. But has that really been a fundamental change on your part? Has that really been a "conversion," considering that both the Democrats and the Republicans are nothing more than loyal and faithful servants of Corporate America?
And you know it.
How about making a real, *meaningful* conversion?
Of course if you were to do that, you'll probably ruffle quite a few feathers. You'd, for sure, be scratched off the list of all those groovy, chez-chez, upscale parties.
Worse yet, heaven forfend, not many celebs would be knocking at your door. (Could you stand it?)
But, then again, we all have to make sacrifices during hard times, don't we, Ari baby?
Democrats are conservatives. Republicans are insane criminals.
No matter what position Obama takes on any issue, the Republicans and the right-wing media, including most of the corporate media, will attack him mercilessly. He cannot hide from the attacks, so the obvious response is to defend himself and counter-attack. And it makes it much more difficult for him to defend himself when he changes positions, especially when the change appears calculated to gain the support of so-called "moderates" on the issue (which actually means people who have no clue what to think about an issue). Moron.
Kivals writes:
"Democrats are conservatives. Republicans are insane criminals."
Good one Kivals!
To wobblie (July 7 1:52 pm): Agreed. But, maybe vote McKinney to qualify the Green Party for matching federal funds next go-round?
And to criticalthinktank (July 7 1:33 pm): who wrote "He [Obama] has always been in the middle. Nothing new. If people would look at his voting record in Congress (when he DOES actually show up to vote. Mostly he hasn't..."
Absolutely! As a D.C. resident, I know several people who are Senate staff, and all I hear is how Obama's people NEVER show up for committee staff meetings, hearings, etc. It's as if he's been running since stabbing that Illinois state senator in the back (the one who asked him to run for her seat when she ran for the open U.S. Senate seat, and when he was asked to back off, he took her on instead and won her state seat. Christ! Is that a convoluted enough sentence?)
I never liked marshmallow Fluff, and that's all I am reminded of by Obama. I agree with those of you calling him out as right-wing (D) all-along, and I can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people have been hoodwinked by this guy's lofty but ultimately meaningless oratory.
So much for the much-vaunted hope campaign.
The problem with playing to the mythical center is that it accepts the framework of the Right as the conventional wisdom of what defines a centrist--and that runs counter to the views of the majority on the majority of the issues.
There was hope that there would've been an alternative that we knew the Clintons would never represent. You should've learned from Gore, Obama--you will lose if you fracture your voting base going after the voters that never would vote for you to begin with. You build momentum emotionally--not by sleazy posturing as strategy.
No alternative? No hope.
Let's turn back the clock to 1948. ...
Harry Truman is trailing his Republican opponent Tom Dewey by a considerable margin.
Truman's advisors strongly suggest to Truman that he "move to the right" -- i.e., towards Dewey's positions.
Truman then famously said: "If a Democrat runs as a Republican, the real thing will win every time."
So, instead of listening to his advisors, Truman moved to the *left* -- and won.
Granted Truman's campaign move to the left was largely rhetorical, in that once elected, he backtracked to being the hack, status quo politician he always was ... but the point is clear: Truman didn't move to the right, he moved to the left, and he wound up winning.
The one person who defied Truman's logic was Bill Clinton; especially in 1996, when he virtually preempted the campaign of Robert Dole, moving shamelessly to the right, and winning.
The Democratic leadership, spearheaded by the DLC, never got over this "success" by Bill Clinton. That Clinton sold out the Democratic Party meant nothing to them, what mattered instead was that they won on their own *corporate-sponsored* terms. In other words, Clinton and the Democratic leadership won without abandoning their corporate paymasters (heaven forfend!).
Since 1996, the Democratic Party has been trying to reproduce "the Clinton magic." They fervently believe that the only way to beat the Republicans is to offer the voting public "Republican Lite" as the only alternative to the insanity of the Republican Party.
And, make no mistake about it, Obama is showing that he's an integral part of the Democratic Party's "Republican Lite" strategy.
(To think otherwise is to be as delusional as the above article by George Lakoff.)
Interestingly enough, in the waning days of the 1988 campaign, Michael Dukakis realized the folly of moving to the right and started moving back to the left. And what happened when he did so? He quickly closed on Bush Sr. and nearly overtook him.
But it was too late. Had he started moving to the left sooner, he would have won. (This, by the way, is freely admitted to by his top strategists.)
Similarly, in 2000, Gore, trailing George Dubya in the closing days of the campaign, started to move to the left, but like Dukakis too late. Had he "moved left" sooner, he would have won.
Of course what Gore would have done if elected is another matter. Once elected, with no electoral constraints on him, Gore, like all other status quo candidates, would no doubt have reverted to corporatist form.
The same can be expected of Obama should he be elected. ("Same soup, warmed over.")
The Democratic leadership is still enthralled with "The Clinton Success," i.e., moving to the right and winning. This is, above all, a *safe* strategy for the Democrats, in that they know that if they lose the presidential election, big deal, they still have all that corporate dough behind them. Just like the Republicans.
In short, even if they lose, the Democrats will feast at the same corporate table as the Republicans. And screw the electorate: let them eat cake.
The Democrats also know that even though overwhelming electorate success is theirs for the taking by moving to the left, that there's just one teensy-weensy problem with THAT success, and that is that their corporate paymasters would cut their throats if they dare move "too much" to the left.
This, too, is something Barack Obama is well aware of.
Obama is on the team, man! His recent shameless move to the right clearly shows that he down with the overall, historical strategy of the Democratic leadership.
Barack Obama is nothing more than the Democratic Party's Uncle Tom. Nothing more than a waterboy for Corporate America.
It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out the obvious, and the obvious has been staring liberals in the face for many, many years now -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD RATHER *LOSE* THAN UNDERMINE THEIR CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP.
Kabish?
After all, Arianna Huffington, George Lakoff, the Democratic leadership, et al -- all those good, loyal, mega-consuming Americans -- they have their bills to pay, too, don't they?
You think yacht wax is cheap now'days???
What is funny about this article is that only two reasons are offered for Obama needlessly promoting extreme right-wing positions to his Democratic base, and they both are that his actions are simply election year ploys. He does not mention that these are clear examples of Obama offering a continuation of the same policies as Bush. In fact, he implies that these stances do not represent Obama's "core values".
Since Bush and McCain hold identical views to Obama on these issues, would the author offer the same explanation for why they promote these policies? Or might the author be bold enough to suggest that Bush and McCain are promoting fascism as a "core value"? Can anyone dispute that Obama's recent vote for Telecom immunity was promoting fascism? Perhaps, his "core values" are no different than Bush.
Like all magic, Obama's so-called magic was just an illusion. When, during the primaries, he was criticized for offering nice talk but no substance, people repeated insisted that he would provide details on his policies once he had secured the nomination. I'm still waiting. All I see thus far is another Kerry-style flip-flopper, incapable of doing much more than give paltry defenses of his ever-changing views. I see no evidence of leadership here, no reasons to waste my vote.
Those on the left who cannot support Obama will really be pissed if McCain gets elected. Somehow, Gore was the same as W and enough voted for Nader in Florida to allow the Supremes to stop the counting and we have had 8 years to learn that there was a huge difference. But go ahead and bash Obama and subject the country to Bush's 3rd term.
Obama will make a great President. We are very lucky to have him in this race.
Lakoff is a guy who had one great idea, for political analysis, as far as I am concerned: his idea of a "nurturant parent" frame for Democratic Party values, as opposed to the "strict father" model of conservative politics. The Northridge Institute spells this out as a "progressive world view:" http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/projects/strategic/nationasfamily/npworldview. If Obama or any other Democrat would stand in that world-view with the trustworthiness of "character" Lakoff advocates, he or she would easily beat the butt of any "strict father" Republican. By the way, this world view is almost identical with the Green Party's Ten Values...but that's another story.
The cynical Mr. Lakoff offers a little fine-tuning for the cynical bullshit artist Barack Obama. Wouldn't it be better if the Democrats nominated an honest, principled man like Chris Dodd and quit trying to out-bullshit genius bullshitters like Karl Rove?
to Kgarry:
McKinney's mistake (and I do like her) is running on the green ticket. however wonderful they are, they've been stigmatized (they themselves are partly to blame) as bleeding heart liberals. They will never win. Indeed how much have they grown or done in the last couple of years? the greens are not the answer. The term "green" itself is enough to turn off the ignorant.
on the other hand Nader is well liked by many "conservatives". And liberals like damnliberal (hee, hee) need to stop regurgitating the corporate media nonsense that Nader lost it for the Dems. Gore WON Florida with or w/out Nader. THAT IS A FACT. Why don't liberal courageously bash the repukes for stopping the recount when it showed Gore quickly closing the gap on Bush's so-called lead.
Furthermore, why blame Nader at all? Shouldn't the Dems EARN my vote?
Get a little self-respect. Look in the mirror losers!
"Those on the left who cannot support Obama will really be pissed if McCain gets elected. Somehow, Gore was the same as W and enough voted for Nader in Florida to allow the Supremes to stop the counting and we have had 8 years to learn that there was a huge difference." Once again, unadulterated balderdash. 300,000 Democrats voted FOR George W. Bush in Florida "to allow the Supremes to stop the counting and we have had 8 years to learn" that Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are exactly the same as Republicans by giving Bush/Cheney everything they ever wanted. Like Obama, Democrats never saw an Iraq war supplemental they did not pass. Democrats muzzled Dennis Kucinich and pretty much put John Conyers under House arrest. "Shouldn't the Dems EARN my vote?" Evidently, Democrats believe they own my vote and only they can determine who my vote is for, no matter for whom I pull the lever. The Democratic Party is just a slighter shade of brown than the Republican Party though both come from the same septic effluenza.
I am just now finishing Lakoff's book, and it has made me worry about Obama's chances to win. He seems lately to be doing everything wrong. On the other hand, I voted for Nader last time and wish I hadn't. I won't do it again.
I'm not impressed with this. And I've never met a self-described conservative with the values Mr. Lakoff describes. Oh, they can be very generous to family members and to poeple of the same religion and skin color, but their compassion ends there. An please no more of that "strict" = conservative, "nurturant" = progressive bullshit - only in the dysfunctional USA is politics defined this way.
"conservatives" believe in preserving the old way of power in the the hands of elite wealthy owners of property - often calling it "meritocracy"
"progressives" believe much more numerous unpropertied workers - the ones who actually generate the wealth of society should seize power - calling it "genuine democracy"
There is one and only good reason to vote for Obama, and is has to do with what Lakoff would consider an outmoded 19th century concept - dialectics - particularly the dialectics of that unfashionable 19th century philosopher named Marx.
If we get Obama in office, the spctacle of his hypocracy and complete lack of principles will drive many more people out of electoral politics and into organizing the streets, thus moving left objectives forward.
Putting it another way, Electing a democrat and still not seeing progress, will provide the necessary end-of-the-road for 2-party electoral politics. This is what dialectics, and dialectical materialism means - a long society-wide argument out of which a result is a synthises of new ideas and new economics - where "synthesis" is an entirely different thing than "compromise".
In contrast, McCain will be exactly the fascist that people elected him to be - thus leaving people to continue with their false hopes for salvation by electing a democrat, and deferring the end of the discussion and sytntheses of revolutionary progress even further in to the future.
The power of this dialectical dynamic should not be underestimated. It was disspointment with the "liberal" Kennedy and Johnson administration that largely fueled many of the movements in the 1960's in the US.
And, slick Willy Clinton's so-called "centrism" led to rapid growth of the global economic justice movement culminating in Seattle, DC, Quebec and other places. This movement rapidly diminished with the election of Bush. Some of this was due to diverson to antiwar efforts - but this does not explain all of rapid post Clinton decline in effective activism.
Somebody send 5 copies of this to Barack, fast!
WSWS says it all - and is the only one here who has it right!
To have the ambition to want to be THE PRESIDENT, to think that you, and you alone, can do the job and actually make a "difference", is, in most cases, the rankest kind of hubris. Nine chances out of ten, this is true of Obama. You do not have to be a wax buffoon like George Wanker Bush to believe this about yourself wholeheartedly. And intelligence won't save you, or the nation you govern, from disaster. In the world we live in now, with the United States in decline and unable to face that reality, Obama's ambition will force him to toe the establishment line while simultaneously fooling him into thinking he can pull any political rabbit out of the hat he wants to.
Progressives, the renamed Left as far as I can tell are not going to support Obama, liberals on the other hand are a bit more realistic. If the guy doesn't move to the center he can't win. Thats where the votes are.
Better Obama than McCain...I think, still not sure about Obama. Liberals must support him because he is the best hope to put in some social programs for Americans instead of Corporate America. To stop any attack unless we are attacked. He is just a politician, but the best we've had in years.
Yeah, I'm talking to myself too.
I think George is right here.
While Obama never took my ideal positions, he seemed to have the ability to move politics forward in this country. He seemed to stand for a kind of bi-partisanship that emphasized the certain few progressive values that we share with a number of conservatives.
Now Obama shows a complete paradigm shift. Whereas, once he wanted to make the Dems stronger by working in a bipartisan way, he now wants to continue to make the Dems weaker by continuing to capitulate to the right.
The primary Obama seemed to be a decent and trustworthy person who would not show such poor character in the national election. But he's exhibited a complete lack of a backbone in recent weeks.
I was a cautious Obama supporter until a few weeks ago. I knew I was cautious about his unconditional support of Israel, his continuation of the war on terror, and his lack of truly progressive credentials. But I thought we would have someone who at least utilized sane judgment-- now even that doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm beginning to think the Dems are the most significant barrier to progress in this country.
Excellent concept:
"Biconceptual" thinking. Should be used readily by all of us to counter usage of redundant arguments that have no contextual relevance anymore.
How many here actually believe they know what they are talking about?
I agree with Lakoff's analysis. I've always said that I might be willing to vote for a candidate who is honest, has integrity, is not a hypocrite, and tells it like it is, even if I don't agree with that person on all the issues. That is why I like and respect Ron Paul, for example, even though I don't agree with him on several key issues. That is why I was willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, even though he would not support some of the key things I believe in (such as not-for-profit universal healthcare), because I thought he was honest, had integrity, and was, at bottom, a decent person. I still think he's a decent person, but I no longer trust him. To me, he's just another politician, albeit a smarter one than most. Because of his recent triangulating, back-sliding, double talk and pandering, I now know for sure that he's not the person I hoped he was.
can you please clarify, KEM?
Agree that this is no surprise. What you are now seeing is the "real Obama" to the extent there is one. This was fairly evident from the beginning, He didn't wait to get the nomination to "swing right". His healthcare policy was clear evidence that he had already decided that corp. bucks were worth more than principle. A review of his donor sources was a dead giveaway.
Agree that Dems losing past few elections are result of this money addiction. While there were, and undoubtedly continue to be, election shenanigans, I have said in the past (in other venues) that the reason the Dems keep losing votes (while retaining corporate $) is that a large number of people, correctly perceiving that neither candidate has anything to offer them of any significance with respect to the issues that are most pressing to them in their daily lives, simply stay home.
After I read somewhere that prominent "progressive" gurus had signed a letter asking Nader not to run in '04 I decided to subscribe to a few of these public. out of curiosity. What had I missed, having voted for Nader in '96, '00, and '04. What I read makes me, by turns, laugh, weep and rage. How pitiful. The "left" media have done such a good job of dismissing, belittling and demeaning the true progressive candidates out there - guys like Kucinich or Nader, that the MSM doesn't even have to bother. "Our" media is our own worst enemy. And it's not that they don't know better. Time and again they make cogent analyses, and champion progressive solutions, but will back what they determine to be the "electable" Dem. - every time - no matter how bad he is. And every time they argue that he is at least better than the Rep. and if they have trouble making a good case for that with a straight face they inevitably fall back on "remember who gets to appoint the Supremes."
The "progressive" media (PM) seems to display the insanity described as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Lakoff is right about the fact that people will reject someone they see as without principle. I have written elsewhere that as much as I vehemently disagreed with Rep. principles, I thought they at least HAD some, the Dem. don't seem to have a principle they aren't willing to throw under the train if they thought it was a "strategic" maneuver.
I am a registered Dem. I thought that the Party meant something once. I think it could again. But if the Dems abandon me, as they consistently have done since at least '92, I will abandon them. And here's a couple of pieces of "not rocket science" that I have understood more and more clearly as I get older:
1) in the long run, principle trumps strategy
2) if you want something, vote for the guy that supports it (better if he has actually pushed leg. for it)
3) unless you are rich, the only time you have any leverage is election time and the only thing the pols really need to win is what you have - your vote. Don't give it a guy/gal who is "electable" by MSM or even PM standards and expect that you can "pressure" him/her latter. HA!HA!HA! Too late, they got your vote, now they can continue sucking up the corp. bucks and ignore you completely until the next election when they can start the charade again. Sigh! We are such suckers, aren't we?
4) the only "unelectable" person (natural born citizen, 35 or over) is the one you don't vote for.
Having been there, done that, fool me once etc.etc., I have found that when the high from the champagne celebration of electing the seriously flawed but "electable" candidate wears off, the hangover is a real you-know-what. Ain't worth it folks. Pyrrhic victories are too costly.
KEM,
All I know is few CD readers seem to know what I am talking (writing) about. Use words like "infrastructure" or "dialectic" and it goes right over their heads...
I can't believe some of these folks even exist! What are they? A bunch of would-be Anarchists?
No excuses here for Obama's recent foolishness. And, yes, I believe Lakoff is light years closer to reality than the nasty, arrogant, self aggrandizing — and may I add — whining zealots here. You don't win elections by beating people you disagree with over the head or by mocking their opinions. Most, believe it or not, are good people who do good things and who make good neighbors.
YOU have to learn how to TALK to them. It's YOUR PROBLEM, not theirs. They're OK with what they think. You want to change it? TALK TO THEM!!!!
Otherwise, you are pretty much the same as those ugly, evil NeoCons you accuse of always knowing what's right even when they are dead wrong.
WsWs 3:43 "THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD RATHER *LOSE* THAN UNDERMINE THEIR CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP."
Hole in One. And yes, put a Dim in the Oval, watch him dance like a puppet on strings pulled by very obvious hands, Voi La, do'in it in THE STREETS. No hope of electoral change producing results. And then DROWN HIM when he appoints another Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, or Bork. Nail him to the wall when he says "Years more in Iraq" or "We need to bomb Iran."
SHAKE THE WINDOWS AND RATTLE THE WALLS OF OUR SLAVERY! THEN KNOCK THE FUCKERS DOWN. IT is OUR COUNTRY. Wasn't it supposed to be?
Of course by the time BHO is scheduled to put his very first and only Black hand on that flat-earth holy book, GWB may have rearranged the landscape with some nuclear missiles in Iran. Whole different ball game. Are we witnessing the birth of an American Kim Il Sung?
Buckle up, it could be a very BUMPY ride.....donchaknow.... No, erase that. It WILL be a very BUMPY ride..... donchaknow....
I wish people who posted to this site would:
1. keep a civil hand on the keyboard-or "keep a civil tongue in your head."
2.respect other people and accept everyone for who they are.
3. I don't need to be told:
I'm clueless, stupid, blind, idiotic or likened to a sheep, dog, cow, horse or any other animal. I am a human.
4. Writing in all caps is a way of shouting at people-SEE I'M SHOUTING NOW, OBNOXIOUS, isn't it?
So, shout if you must, but be aware, shouting and screaming will be perceived for what it is: a lack of reasoned response so let me SHOUT!
thanks, and keep doing what ever it is you do best but add a bit of respect, courtesy and friendliness to the world before your growl, curse call names or disrespect.
If Obama is elected, will I wake wake up with a new high-paying job? Will the Iraq war be ended? Will the military-industrial complex cease to exist overnight?
0bama = No change.
Although I expect nothing, I will still vote for him over McPain.
One massive circle-jerk! Goodbye all.
I tried wading through this in the normal way viz. from top to bottom . But I found it very rough going.
Instead of using just a few well-chosen words to get the point across ,Mr. Lakoff has gone to the other extreme and inundated the reader with a veritable torrent of high sounding words and phrases.
The upshot is :getting to the essence of his post is as uphill a task as looking for that needle in a haystack. (In college we used to call it 'getting lost in words'.)
Let me say though once I read it in reverse i.e. from end to beginning ,it became somewhat clearer.
If only the art of precis-writing had been given its due importance in the US Educational System...
Great article. Interesting thing is that the article explains why so many of the posts here are the same as the posts in response to any other article on CD - people's positions are solidified by whatever they hear because they only hear what they already believe. I believed reading the posts would be a waste of time - my position has been solidified.
Very thought-provoking and interesting, I'd like to read the book. George Lakoff- Well done!
But the form of bipartisanship that involves adopting, or appearing to adopt, right-wing views has the opposite effect. It strengthens conservative thought in the brains on those biconceptuals and weakens progressive thought.
-outstanding point!
It give conservatives more reason, not less, for voting for conservatives.
-Obama on FISA
In The Audacity of Hope,
-some of us doubted everything about Obama, including his book. Looks like we may have been right all along
No matter how many right-wing views you move toward, you will be viciously attacked as too liberal,
-well said, stick to your values, but this may be impossible for a politician solely bent on getting elected
even giving them phony support
-to me he has always been a phony-sorry
Don't adopt right-wing positions for the sake of political expediency (that will backfire)
-could be too late, he looks weak, wobbly, and waffling, McCain has a very good chance to take him out
Some conclude Obama was genuine but has lost his way. To me he never was anything but a phony, very ambitious, politician. Nothing more, nothing less.
damnliberal July 7th, 2008 4:06 pm
Obama will make a great President. We are very lucky to have him in this race.
-why?
what you are saying is that until voters start voting based on the issues, and actually know what they are and what the candidates' positions on those issues are, we're fukt.
There was some mechanical problem with the plane that Obama was on. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Rethuglicans are involved with it. Hopefully Obama won't end up like Paul Wellstone, Gov. Mel Carnahan, and JFK Jr. Notice it's always a Democrat who gets killed in a plane crash or is assassinated by the old fashioned method (gun).
The right-wing smear machine are lying, as usual, and saying Obama went to school at a madrassa in Indonesia when he was a kid. The truth is the school he attended was a Catholic school and not a Muslim one.
The Republicans are also lying about Iran as usual and saying "Iran is a threat to the world." Give me a break. Iran has no nuclear bomb and has not attacked anyone in hundreds of years. The U.S. and Israel are the ones with hundreds and thousands of nukes and are the ones that threaten the world --- not Iran.