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Preparing the Battlefield
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.
Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country's religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Iran's suspected nuclear-weapons program.
Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in the President's war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature.
Under federal law, a Presidential Finding, which is highly classified, must be issued when a covert intelligence operation gets under way and, at a minimum, must be made known to Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and the Senate and to the ranking members of their respective intelligence committees-the so-called Gang of Eight. Money for the operation can then be reprogrammed from previous appropriations, as needed, by the relevant congressional committees, which also can be briefed.
"The Finding was focussed on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," a person familiar with its contents said, and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money." The Finding provided for a whole new range of activities in southern Iran and in the areas, in the east, where Baluchi political opposition is strong, he said.
Although some legislators were troubled by aspects of the Finding, and "there was a significant amount of high-level discussion" about it, according to the source familiar with it, the funding for the escalation was approved. In other words, some members of the Democratic leadership-Congress has been under Democratic control since the 2006 elections-were willing, in secret, to go along with the Administration in expanding covert activities directed at Iran, while the Party's presumptive candidate for President, Barack Obama, has said that he favors direct talks and diplomacy.
The request for funding came in the same period in which the Administration was coming to terms with a National Intelligence Estimate, released in December, that concluded that Iran had halted its work on nuclear weapons in 2003. The Administration downplayed the significance of the N.I.E., and, while saying that it was committed to diplomacy, continued to emphasize that urgent action was essential to counter the Iranian nuclear threat. President Bush questioned the N.I.E.'s conclusions, and senior national-security officials, including Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, made similar statements. (So did Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee.) Meanwhile, the Administration also revived charges that the Iranian leadership has been involved in the killing of American soldiers in Iraq: both directly, by dispatching commando units into Iraq, and indirectly, by supplying materials used for roadside bombs and other lethal goods. (There have been questions about the accuracy of the claims; the Times, among others, has reported that "significant uncertainties remain about the extent of that involvement.")
Military and civilian leaders in the Pentagon share the White House's concern about Iran's nuclear ambitions, but there is disagreement about whether a military strike is the right solution. Some Pentagon officials believe, as they have let Congress and the media know, that bombing Iran is not a viable response to the nuclear-proliferation issue, and that more diplomacy is necessary.
A Democratic senator told me that, late last year, in an off-the-record lunch meeting, Secretary of Defense Gates met with the Democratic caucus in the Senate. (Such meetings are held regularly.) Gates warned of the consequences if the Bush Administration staged a preëmptive strike on Iran, saying, as the senator recalled, "We'll create generations of jihadists, and our grandchildren will be battling our enemies here in America." Gates's comments stunned the Democrats at the lunch, and another senator asked whether Gates was speaking for Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney. Gates's answer, the senator told me, was "Let's just say that I'm here speaking for myself." (A spokesman for Gates confirmed that he discussed the consequences of a strike at the meeting, but would not address what he said, other than to dispute the senator's characterization.)
The Joint Chiefs of Staff, whose chairman is Admiral Mike Mullen, were "pushing back very hard" against White House pressure to undertake a military strike against Iran, the person familiar with the Finding told me. Similarly, a Pentagon consultant who is involved in the war on terror said that "at least ten senior flag and general officers, including combatant commanders"-the four-star officers who direct military operations around the world-"have weighed in on that issue."
The most outspoken of those officers is Admiral William Fallon, who until recently was the head of U.S. Central Command, and thus in charge of American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. In March, Fallon resigned under pressure, after giving a series of interviews stating his reservations about an armed attack on Iran. For example, late last year he told the Financial Times that the "real objective" of U.S. policy was to change the Iranians' behavior, and that "attacking them as a means to get to that spot strikes me as being not the first choice."
Admiral Fallon acknowledged, when I spoke to him in June, that he had heard that there were people in the White House who were upset by his public statements. "Too many people believe you have to be either for or against the Iranians," he told me. "Let's get serious. Eighty million people live there, and everyone's an individual. The idea that they're only one way or another is nonsense."
When it came to the Iraq war, Fallon said, "Did I bitch about some of the things that were being proposed? You bet. Some of them were very stupid."
The Democratic leadership's agreement to commit hundreds of millions of dollars for more secret operations in Iran was remarkable, given the general concerns of officials like Gates, Fallon, and many others. "The oversight process has not kept pace-it's been coöpted" by the Administration, the person familiar with the contents of the Finding said. "The process is broken, and this is dangerous stuff we're authorizing."
Senior Democrats in Congress told me that they had concerns about the possibility that their understanding of what the new operations entail differs from the White House's. One issue has to do with a reference in the Finding, the person familiar with it recalled, to potential defensive lethal action by U.S. operatives in Iran. (In early May, the journalist Andrew Cockburn published elements of the Finding in Counterpunch, a newsletter and online magazine.)
The language was inserted into the Finding at the urging of the C.I.A., a former senior intelligence official said. The covert operations set forth in the Finding essentially run parallel to those of a secret military task force, now operating in Iran, that is under the control of JSOC. Under the Bush Administration's interpretation of the law, clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without congressional interference. But the borders between operations are not always clear: in Iran, C.I.A. agents and regional assets have the language skills and the local knowledge to make contacts for the JSOC operatives, and have been working with them to direct personnel, matériel, and money into Iran from an obscure base in western Afghanistan. As a result, Congress has been given only a partial view of how the money it authorized may be used. One of JSOC's task-force missions, the pursuit of "high-value targets," was not directly addressed in the Finding. There is a growing realization among some legislators that the Bush Administration, in recent years, has conflated what is an intelligence operation and what is a military one in order to avoid fully informing Congress about what it is doing.
"This is a big deal," the person familiar with the Finding said. "The C.I.A. needed the Finding to do its traditional stuff, but the Finding does not apply to JSOC. The President signed an Executive Order after September 11th giving the Pentagon license to do things that it had never been able to do before without notifying Congress. The claim was that the military was 'preparing the battle space,' and by using that term they were able to circumvent congressional oversight. Everything is justified in terms of fighting the global war on terror." He added, "The Administration has been fuzzing the lines; there used to be a shade of gray"-between operations that had to be briefed to the senior congressional leadership and those which did not-"but now it's a shade of mush."
"The agency says we're not going to get in the position of helping to kill people without a Finding," the former senior intelligence official told me. He was referring to the legal threat confronting some agency operatives for their involvement in the rendition and alleged torture of suspects in the war on terror. "This drove the military people up the wall," he said. As far as the C.I.A. was concerned, the former senior intelligence official said, "the over-all authorization includes killing, but it's not as though that's what they're setting out to do. It's about gathering information, enlisting support." The Finding sent to Congress was a compromise, providing legal cover for the C.I.A. while referring to the use of lethal force in ambiguous terms.
The defensive-lethal language led some Democrats, according to congressional sources familiar with their views, to call in the director of the C.I.A., Air Force General Michael V. Hayden, for a special briefing. Hayden reassured the legislators that the language did nothing more than provide authority for Special Forces operatives on the ground in Iran to shoot their way out if they faced capture or harm.
The legislators were far from convinced. One congressman subsequently wrote a personal letter to President Bush insisting that "no lethal action, period" had been authorized within Iran's borders. As of June, he had received no answer.
Members of Congress have expressed skepticism in the past about the information provided by the White House. On March 15, 2005, David Obey, then the ranking Democrat on the Republican-led House Appropriations Committee, announced that he was putting aside an amendment that he had intended to offer that day, and that would have cut off all funding for national-intelligence programs unless the President agreed to keep Congress fully informed about clandestine military activities undertaken in the war on terror. He had changed his mind, he said, because the White House promised better coöperation. "The Executive Branch understands that we are not trying to dictate what they do," he said in a floor speech at the time. "We are simply trying to see to it that what they do is consistent with American values and will not get the country in trouble."
Obey declined to comment on the specifics of the operations in Iran, but he did tell me that the White House reneged on its promise to consult more fully with Congress. He said, "I suspect there's something going on, but I don't know what to believe. Cheney has always wanted to go after Iran, and if he had more time he'd find a way to do it. We still don't get enough information from the agencies, and I have very little confidence that they give us information on the edge."
None of the four Democrats in the Gang of Eight-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Intelligence Committee chairman John D. Rockefeller IV, and House Intelligence Committee chairman Silvestre Reyes-would comment on the Finding, with some noting that it was highly classified. An aide to one member of the Democratic leadership responded, on his behalf, by pointing to the limitations of the Gang of Eight process. The notification of a Finding, the aide said, "is just that-notification, and not a sign-off on activities. Proper oversight of ongoing intelligence activities is done by fully briefing the members of the intelligence committee." However, Congress does have the means to challenge the White House once it has been sent a Finding. It has the power to withhold funding for any government operation. The members of the House and Senate Democratic leadership who have access to the Finding can also, if they choose to do so, and if they have shared concerns, come up with ways to exert their influence on Administration policy. (A spokesman for the C.I.A. said, "As a rule, we don't comment one way or the other on allegations of covert activities or purported findings." The White House also declined to comment.)
A member of the House Appropriations Committee acknowledged that, even with a Democratic victory in November, "it will take another year before we get the intelligence activities under control." He went on, "We control the money and they can't do anything without the money. Money is what it's all about. But I'm very leery of this Administration." He added, "This Administration has been so secretive."
One irony of Admiral Fallon's departure is that he was, in many areas, in agreement with President Bush on the threat posed by Iran. They had a good working relationship, Fallon told me, and, when he ran CENTCOM, were in regular communication. On March 4th, a week before his resignation, Fallon testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, saying that he was "encouraged" about the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Regarding the role played by Iran's leaders, he said, "They've been absolutely unhelpful, very damaging, and I absolutely don't condone any of their activities. And I have yet to see anything since I've been in this job in the way of a public action by Iran that's been at all helpful in this region."
Fallon made it clear in our conversations that he considered it inappropriate to comment publicly about the President, the Vice-President, or Special Operations. But he said he had heard that people in the White House had been "struggling" with his views on Iran. "When I arrived at CENTCOM, the Iranians were funding every entity inside Iraq. It was in their interest to get us out, and so they decided to kill as many Americans as they could. And why not? They didn't know who'd come out ahead, but they wanted us out. I decided that I couldn't resolve the situation in Iraq without the neighborhood. To get this problem in Iraq solved, we had to somehow involve Iran and Syria. I had to work the neighborhood."
Fallon told me that his focus had been not on the Iranian nuclear issue, or on regime change there, but on "putting out the fires in Iraq." There were constant discussions in Washington and in the field about how to engage Iran and, on the subject of the bombing option, Fallon said, he believed that "it would happen only if the Iranians did something stupid."
Fallon's early retirement, however, appears to have been provoked not only by his negative comments about bombing Iran but also by his strong belief in the chain of command and his insistence on being informed about Special Operations in his area of responsibility. One of Fallon's defenders is retired Marine General John J. (Jack) Sheehan, whose last assignment was as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Atlantic Command, where Fallon was a deputy. Last year, Sheehan rejected a White House offer to become the President's "czar" for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. "One of the reasons the White House selected Fallon for CENTCOM was that he's known to be a strategic thinker and had demonstrated those skills in the Pacific," Sheehan told me. (Fallon served as commander-in-chief of U.S. forces in the Pacific from 2005 to 2007.) "He was charged with coming up with an over-all coherent strategy for Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and, by law, the combatant commander is responsible for all military operations within his A.O."-area of operations. "That was not happening," Sheehan said. "When Fallon tried to make sense of all the overt and covert activity conducted by the military in his area of responsibility, a small group in the White House leadership shut him out."
The law cited by Sheehan is the 1986 Defense Reorganization Act, known as Goldwater-Nichols, which defined the chain of command: from the President to the Secretary of Defense, through the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and on to the various combatant commanders, who were put in charge of all aspects of military operations, including joint training and logistics. That authority, the act stated, was not to be shared with other echelons of command. But the Bush Administration, as part of its global war on terror, instituted new policies that undercut regional commanders-in-chief; for example, it gave Special Operations teams, at military commands around the world, the highest priority in terms of securing support and equipment. The degradation of the traditional chain of command in the past few years has been a point of tension between the White House and the uniformed military.
"The coherence of military strategy is being eroded because of undue civilian influence and direction of nonconventional military operations," Sheehan said. "If you have small groups planning and conducting military operations outside the knowledge and control of the combatant commander, by default you can't have a coherent military strategy. You end up with a disaster, like the reconstruction efforts in Iraq."
Admiral Fallon, who is known as Fox, was aware that he would face special difficulties as the first Navy officer to lead CENTCOM, which had always been headed by a ground commander, one of his military colleagues told me. He was also aware that the Special Operations community would be a concern. "Fox said that there's a lot of strange stuff going on in Special Ops, and I told him he had to figure out what they were really doing," Fallon's colleague said. "The Special Ops guys eventually figured out they needed Fox, and so they began to talk to him. Fox would have won his fight with Special Ops but for Cheney."
The Pentagon consultant said, "Fallon went down because, in his own way, he was trying to prevent a war with Iran, and you have to admire him for that."
In recent months, according to the Iranian media, there has been a surge in violence in Iran; it is impossible at this early stage, however, to credit JSOC or C.I.A. activities, or to assess their impact on the Iranian leadership. The Iranian press reports are being carefully monitored by retired Air Force Colonel Sam Gardiner, who has taught strategy at the National War College and now conducts war games centered on Iran for the federal government, think tanks, and universities. The Iranian press "is very open in describing the killings going on inside the country," Gardiner said. It is, he said, "a controlled press, which makes it more important that it publishes these things. We begin to see inside the government." He added, "Hardly a day goes by now we don't see a clash somewhere. There were three or four incidents over a recent weekend, and the Iranians are even naming the Revolutionary Guard officers who have been killed."
Earlier this year, a militant Ahwazi group claimed to have assassinated a Revolutionary Guard colonel, and the Iranian government acknowledged that an explosion in a cultural center in Shiraz, in the southern part of the country, which killed at least twelve people and injured more than two hundred, had been a terrorist act and not, as it earlier insisted, an accident. It could not be learned whether there has been American involvement in any specific incident in Iran, but, according to Gardiner, the Iranians have begun publicly blaming the U.S., Great Britain, and, more recently, the C.I.A. for some incidents. The agency was involved in a coup in Iran in 1953, and its support for the unpopular regime of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi-who was overthrown in 1979-was condemned for years by the ruling mullahs in Tehran, to great effect. "This is the ultimate for the Iranians-to blame the C.I.A.," Gardiner said. "This is new, and it's an escalation-a ratcheting up of tensions. It rallies support for the regime and shows the people that there is a continuing threat from the 'Great Satan.' " In Gardiner's view, the violence, rather than weakening Iran's religious government, may generate support for it.
Many of the activities may be being carried out by dissidents in Iran, and not by Americans in the field. One problem with "passing money" (to use the term of the person familiar with the Finding) in a covert setting is that it is hard to control where the money goes and whom it benefits. Nonetheless, the former senior intelligence official said, "We've got exposure, because of the transfer of our weapons and our communications gear. The Iranians will be able to make the argument that the opposition was inspired by the Americans. How many times have we tried this without asking the right questions? Is the risk worth it?" One possible consequence of these operations would be a violent Iranian crackdown on one of the dissident groups, which could give the Bush Administration a reason to intervene.
A strategy of using ethnic minorities to undermine Iran is flawed, according to Vali Nasr, who teaches international politics at Tufts University and is also a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. "Just because Lebanon, Iraq, and Pakistan have ethnic problems, it does not mean that Iran is suffering from the same issue," Nasr told me. "Iran is an old country-like France and Germany-and its citizens are just as nationalistic. The U.S. is overestimating ethnic tension in Iran." The minority groups that the U.S. is reaching out to are either well integrated or small and marginal, without much influence on the government or much ability to present a political challenge, Nasr said. "You can always find some activist groups that will go and kill a policeman, but working with the minorities will backfire, and alienate the majority of the population."
The Administration may have been willing to rely on dissident organizations in Iran even when there was reason to believe that the groups had operated against American interests in the past. The use of Baluchi elements, for example, is problematic, Robert Baer, a former C.I.A. clandestine officer who worked for nearly two decades in South Asia and the Middle East, told me. "The Baluchis are Sunni fundamentalists who hate the regime in Tehran, but you can also describe them as Al Qaeda," Baer told me. "These are guys who cut off the heads of nonbelievers-in this case, it's Shiite Iranians. The irony is that we're once again working with Sunni fundamentalists, just as we did in Afghanistan in the nineteen-eighties." Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is considered one of the leading planners of the September 11th attacks, are Baluchi Sunni fundamentalists.
One of the most active and violent anti-regime groups in Iran today is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People's Resistance Movement, which describes itself as a resistance force fighting for the rights of Sunnis in Iran. "This is a vicious Salafi organization whose followers attended the same madrassas as the Taliban and Pakistani extremists," Nasr told me. "They are suspected of having links to Al Qaeda and they are also thought to be tied to the drug culture." The Jundallah took responsibility for the bombing of a busload of Revolutionary Guard soldiers in February, 2007. At least eleven Guard members were killed. According to Baer and to press reports, the Jundallah is among the groups in Iran that are benefitting from U.S. support.
The C.I.A. and Special Operations communities also have long-standing ties to two other dissident groups in Iran: the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, known in the West as the M.E.K., and a Kurdish separatist group, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, or PJAK.
The M.E.K. has been on the State Department's terrorist list for more than a decade, yet in recent years the group has received arms and intelligence, directly or indirectly, from the United States. Some of the newly authorized covert funds, the Pentagon consultant told me, may well end up in M.E.K. coffers. "The new task force will work with the M.E.K. The Administration is desperate for results." He added, "The M.E.K. has no C.P.A. auditing the books, and its leaders are thought to have been lining their pockets for years. If people only knew what the M.E.K. is getting, and how much is going to its bank accounts-and yet it is almost useless for the purposes the Administration intends."
The Kurdish party, PJAK, which has also been reported to be covertly supported by the United States, has been operating against Iran from bases in northern Iraq for at least three years. (Iran, like Iraq and Turkey, has a Kurdish minority, and PJAK and other groups have sought self-rule in territory that is now part of each of those countries.) In recent weeks, according to Sam Gardiner, the military strategist, there has been a marked increase in the number of PJAK armed engagements with Iranians and terrorist attacks on Iranian targets. In early June, the news agency Fars reported that a dozen PJAK members and four Iranian border guards were killed in a clash near the Iraq border; a similar attack in May killed three Revolutionary Guards and nine PJAK fighters. PJAK has also subjected Turkey, a member of NATO, to repeated terrorist attacks, and reports of American support for the group have been a source of friction between the two governments.
Gardiner also mentioned a trip that the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, made to Tehran in June. After his return, Maliki announced that his government would ban any contact between foreigners and the M.E.K.-a slap at the U.S.'s dealings with the group. Maliki declared that Iraq was not willing to be a staging ground for covert operations against other countries. This was a sign, Gardiner said, of "Maliki's increasingly choosing the interests of Iraq over the interests of the United States." In terms of U.S. allegations of Iranian involvement in the killing of American soldiers, he said, "Maliki was unwilling to play the blame-Iran game." Gardiner added that Pakistan had just agreed to turn over a Jundallah leader to the Iranian government. America's covert operations, he said, "seem to be harming relations with the governments of both Iraq and Pakistan and could well be strengthening the connection between Tehran and Baghdad."
The White House's reliance on questionable operatives, and on plans involving possible lethal action inside Iran, has created anger as well as anxiety within the Special Operations and intelligence communities. JSOC's operations in Iran are believed to be modelled on a program that has, with some success, used surrogates to target the Taliban leadership in the tribal territories of Waziristan, along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. But the situations in Waziristan and Iran are not comparable.
In Waziristan, "the program works because it's small and smart guys are running it," the former senior intelligence official told me. "It's being executed by professionals. The N.S.A., the C.I.A., and the D.I.A."-the Defense Intelligence Agency-"are right in there with the Special Forces and Pakistani intelligence, and they're dealing with serious bad guys." He added, "We have to be really careful in calling in the missiles. We have to hit certain houses at certain times. The people on the ground are watching through binoculars a few hundred yards away and calling specific locations, in latitude and longitude. We keep the Predator loitering until the targets go into a house, and we have to make sure our guys are far enough away so they don't get hit." One of the most prominent victims of the program, the former official said, was Abu Laith al-Libi, a senior Taliban commander, who was killed on January 31st, reportedly in a missile strike that also killed eleven other people.
A dispatch published on March 26th by the Washington Post reported on the increasing number of successful strikes against Taliban and other insurgent units in Pakistan's tribal areas. A follow-up article noted that, in response, the Taliban had killed "dozens of people" suspected of providing information to the United States and its allies on the whereabouts of Taliban leaders. Many of the victims were thought to be American spies, and their executions-a beheading, in one case-were videotaped and distributed by DVD as a warning to others.
It is not simple to replicate the program in Iran. "Everybody's arguing about the high-value-target list," the former senior intelligence official said. "The Special Ops guys are pissed off because Cheney's office set up priorities for categories of targets, and now he's getting impatient and applying pressure for results. But it takes a long time to get the right guys in place."
The Pentagon consultant told me, "We've had wonderful results in the Horn of Africa with the use of surrogates and false flags-basic counterintelligence and counter-insurgency tactics. And we're beginning to tie them in knots in Afghanistan. But the White House is going to kill the program if they use it to go after Iran. It's one thing to engage in selective strikes and assassinations in Waziristan and another in Iran. The White House believes that one size fits all, but the legal issues surrounding extrajudicial killings in Waziristan are less of a problem because Al Qaeda and the Taliban cross the border into Afghanistan and back again, often with U.S. and NATO forces in hot pursuit. The situation is not nearly as clear in the Iranian case. All the considerations-judicial, strategic, and political-are different in Iran."
He added, "There is huge opposition inside the intelligence community to the idea of waging a covert war inside Iran, and using Baluchis and Ahwazis as surrogates. The leaders of our Special Operations community all have remarkable physical courage, but they are less likely to voice their opposition to policy. Iran is not Waziristan."
A Gallup poll taken last November, before the N.I.E. was made public, found that seventy-three per cent of those surveyed thought that the United States should use economic action and diplomacy to stop Iran's nuclear program, while only eighteen per cent favored direct military action. Republicans were twice as likely as Democrats to endorse a military strike. Weariness with the war in Iraq has undoubtedly affected the public's tolerance for an attack on Iran. This mood could change quickly, however. The potential for escalation became clear in early January, when five Iranian patrol boats, believed to be under the command of the Revolutionary Guard, made a series of aggressive moves toward three Navy warships sailing through the Strait of Hormuz. Initial reports of the incident made public by the Pentagon press office said that the Iranians had transmitted threats, over ship-to-ship radio, to "explode" the American ships. At a White House news conference, the President, on the day he left for an eight-day trip to the Middle East, called the incident "provocative" and "dangerous," and there was, very briefly, a sense of crisis and of outrage at Iran. "TWO MINUTES FROM WAR" was the headline in one British newspaper.
The crisis was quickly defused by Vice-Admiral Kevin Cosgriff, the commander of U.S. naval forces in the region. No warning shots were fired, the Admiral told the Pentagon press corps on January 7th, via teleconference from his headquarters, in Bahrain. "Yes, it's more serious than we have seen, but, to put it in context, we do interact with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and their Navy regularly," Cosgriff said. "I didn't get the sense from the reports I was receiving that there was a sense of being afraid of these five boats."
Admiral Cosgriff's caution was well founded: within a week, the Pentagon acknowledged that it could not positively identify the Iranian boats as the source of the ominous radio transmission, and press reports suggested that it had instead come from a prankster long known for sending fake messages in the region. Nonetheless, Cosgriff's demeanor angered Cheney, according to the former senior intelligence official. But a lesson was learned in the incident: The public had supported the idea of retaliation, and was even asking why the U.S. didn't do more. The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. "The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington," he said.
In June, President Bush went on a farewell tour of Europe. He had tea with Queen Elizabeth II and dinner with Nicolas Sarkozy and Carla Bruni, the President and First Lady of France. The serious business was conducted out of sight, and involved a series of meetings on a new diplomatic effort to persuade the Iranians to halt their uranium-enrichment program. (Iran argues that its enrichment program is for civilian purposes and is legal under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.) Secretary of State Rice had been involved with developing a new package of incentives. But the Administration's essential negotiating position seemed unchanged: talks could not take place until Iran halted the program. The Iranians have repeatedly and categorically rejected that precondition, leaving the diplomatic situation in a stalemate; they have not yet formally responded to the new incentives.
The continuing impasse alarms many observers. Joschka Fischer, the former German Foreign Minister, recently wrote in a syndicated column that it may not "be possible to freeze the Iranian nuclear program for the duration of the negotiations to avoid a military confrontation before they are completed. Should this newest attempt fail, things will soon get serious. Deadly serious." When I spoke to him last week, Fischer, who has extensive contacts in the diplomatic community, said that the latest European approach includes a new element: the willingness of the U.S. and the Europeans to accept something less than a complete cessation of enrichment as an intermediate step. "The proposal says that the Iranians must stop manufacturing new centrifuges and the other side will stop all further sanction activities in the U.N. Security Council," Fischer said, although Iran would still have to freeze its enrichment activities when formal negotiations begin. "This could be acceptable to the Iranians-if they have good will."
The big question, Fischer added, is in Washington. "I think the Americans are deeply divided on the issue of what to do about Iran," he said. "Some officials are concerned about the fallout from a military attack and others think an attack is unavoidable. I know the Europeans, but I have no idea where the Americans will end up on this issue."
There is another complication: American Presidential politics. Barack Obama has said that, if elected, he would begin talks with Iran with no "self-defeating" preconditions (although only after diplomatic groundwork had been laid). That position has been vigorously criticized by John McCain. The Washington Post recently quoted Randy Scheunemann, the McCain campaign's national-security director, as stating that McCain supports the White House's position, and that the program be suspended before talks begin. What Obama is proposing, Scheunemann said, "is unilateral cowboy summitry."
Scheunemann, who is known as a neoconservative, is also the McCain campaign's most important channel of communication with the White House. He is a friend of David Addington, Dick Cheney's chief of staff. I have heard differing accounts of Scheunemann's influence with McCain; though some close to the McCain campaign talk about him as a possible national-security adviser, others say he is someone who isn't taken seriously while "telling Cheney and others what they want to hear," as a senior McCain adviser put it.
It is not known whether McCain, who is the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, has been formally briefed on the operations in Iran. At the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, in June, Obama repeated his plea for "tough and principled diplomacy." But he also said, along with McCain, that he would keep the threat of military action against Iran on the table.
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Show AllRe: "... The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. "The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington," he said...."
Would someone please explain to me why Cheney isn't in jail right now?
We claim Iran interferes with our occupation of Iraq!
Here we have a 400 million plus budget to overthrow the government of Iran!
As professor Chomski says, compare the two using the same standards!
Is there anyone remaining in this country who has any faith in the leadership of this country, be it Executive, Legislative or Judicial? Does insanity rule in the halls of our government? Where are the voices of reason, patience and wisdom? It is almost as if we have some kind of collective disease which drive men crazy. Some of the worse call themselves Christians. Even Christianity has been perverted. They talk a good game but their actions speak differently.
Where is it written that the temporary occupants of the WhiteHouse and the halls of Congress can do any damn thing they please? They must check with the People before they do things that will prejudice the safety and wellbeing of the People for the foreseeable future.
Playing with frogs and firecrackers is a whole other scale of things when compared to poisoning the entire world with nuclear fallout.
Watch the stock market, the Dow is heading for 11,000. The boyz in the boardroom are getting nervous as all their chickens come home to roost because, as anyone should know, chickens bring more than feathers to their roost.
My guess is that our nut cases are presently trying to jaw bone Iran's nut cases into some preemptive action screwing up oil distribution to use as a pretext to launch some strikes against them. Let us hope that the religious extremists running Iran and their military (the Revolutionary Council not Ahmidinijad) are less insane than the religious extremists running the US government and its military.
"The oversight process has not kept pace-it's been coöpted" by the Administration, the person familiar with the contents of the Finding said. "The process is broken, and this is dangerous stuff we're authorizing."
It is "state terrorism" and the people involved have a lot of experience, ask Oliver North, or Assistant Secretary of State Negaponte.
America has left itself no more credibility, and no tools in its kit, only the hammer and it keeps smashing it's own thumb.
Spike June 29th, 2008 1:01 pm -- 'They must check with the People before they do things that will prejudice the safety and wellbeing of the People for the foreseeable future.'
Must they?! It's certainly not obvious. Nor is there any recent indication that 'The People' have either the means or the will to enforce any such sovereign oversight role on their 'representatives'.
Let's face it, it no longer matters (if it ever did) where anything is written. And that clearly includes constitutional law or any other in the complete absence of any power of enforcement.
...a meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. "The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington"
This alone is sufficient cause to impeach Bush&Cheney. They are discussing how to trick the public into supporting a third elective, unnecessary, and dangerous war, with false flag techniques.
as the criminal, enabling congress votes for a blockade, an act of war!
This madness bears comparison with the start of WWI.
sounds to me like the USA is engaging in Terrorism in Iran.
How the hell do they expect to win their stupid "War on Terror" if THEY are the terrorists?
You know? it REALLY bothers me..that people..KNOW that there is..as a post above states..
"..Is there anyone remaining in this country who has any faith in the leadership of this country, be it Executive, Legislative or Judicial? Does insanity rule in the halls of our government? Where are the voices of reason, patience and wisdom? It is almost as if we have some kind of collective disease which drive men crazy. "
AND YET! YOU ALL CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THIS GOVERNMENT THAT YOU HAVE NO FAITH IN...WHY?
OKAY!...This is IT FOLKS!..
ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR THIS ONE TOO? ARE YOU GONNA PAY BUSH AND CHENEY TO START WWIII?
I ASK YOU..TO JOIN IN TAX PROTEST..IF BUSH..WITH YOUR MONEY..ATTACKS IRAN...PLEASE..IT IS TIME..IT IS TIME TO SAY.."ENOUGH!" WE WILL NOT PAY FOR ANOTHER WAR!
WILL YOU HELP IMPOSE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS ON THIS ROGUE GOVERNMENT? NO ONE WANTS THIS WAR..NOT EVEN THE CIA..NOT THE PEOPLE...NO ONE...
EXCEPT ISRAEL..AND THE OIL COMPANIES..
PLEASE..UNDERSTAND..YOUR SUPPORT IS SEEN AS CONTINUED FINANCIAL SUPPORT IN THE FORM OF ENDLESS BILLIONS IN TAX MONEY..PLEASE..WHAT IS ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU SEE THE REALITY...??
YOU ARE THE "ENABLERS" OF THIS WAR..PERIOD!
LIVE FREE OR DIE...
Iran belongs to the US!
U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright states,
"In 1953 the United States played a significant role in orchestrating the overthrow of Iran's popular Prime Minister, Mohammed Massadegh. The Eisenhower Administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons."
The US is only trying to get it's property back. What's so wrong with that? (I can think of a lot of things.) Next you'll be saying Puerto Rico deserves US states' rights or freedom. Then you'll go on demanding accountability for international corporations that operate outside of any sovereign laws, yet break many laws of those nations that they operate in. You people will stop at nothing until there's global justice, environmental stability through sustainable farming and renewable energy, fair trade, clean water, and an end to unlawful US military invasions! (Or I hope you won't stop, at least.)
Hey, what's the big deal.
Can't the Iranians take a joke.
If Iranian special ops guys came into the US and killed a few dozen Congressional and Pentagon big wigs, we certainly won't get all bent out of shape and start a war about it --- now would we?
Tax protest is OK...but, a work and consumer strike will add to the effectiveness. Many folks as myself are on SS and not actually paying income tax as such. Our energy would best be put to use in the form of a consumer strike.
Why does Mr. Hersh's article fail to mention the constant anti-Iran Israeli propaganda campaign and the pressure on the US Gov't to act against Iran unilaterally or in support of an Israeli attack?
HEY! I agree.. aconsumer strike..GOOD IDEA...but frankly..I have to say...that is another in a long line of rationalizations...WHY RATIONALIZ? because you are ..AFRAID! yup! almost all of yo..are AFRAID of YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT..YEAH..THAT'S A GOOD REASON TO SEND EM YOUR MONEY..FEAR..WAY TO GO!
I have dutifully paid my tax..every MARCH..how about it..my entire adult life..UNTIL I BECAME CONVINCED..THAT MY MONEY..WAS BEING USED TO TAKE AWAY THE VERY RIGHTS I AM ALLEGEDLY PAYING TO HAVE PROTECTED..AND WHAT'S MORE..WHEN IT BECAME ABUNDANTLY CLEAR..THAT WE..ARE..NO..LONGER.."REPRESENTED"..AND IN FACT OUR "PARTICIAPTION" IS IN FACT..."RESENTED"..WELL..HEY..THAT WAS IT...I WILL NO LONGER ACT TO ENABLE THIS "GOVERNMENT"..IN IT'S INSANE ACIONS, IT'S PSYCHOTIC DESIRE TO DESTROY THE WORLD..AND FREEDOM...THE EVIL OF THIS "PRESIDENCY" IS ALMOST ENOUGH..TO MAKE ME BELIEVE IT IS..ACTUALLY.."METAPHYSICAL"..AN ACTUAL.."TRUE EVIL"..AND I WILL NOT BE A COMPLICIT PARTNER IN THIS EVIL..I WILL NOT!
They have NOT had MY MONEY..to use on torture..murder..DEATH FROM ABOVE..I have not paid for the death of an innocent civilian in YEARS...and I say this here..with HESITATION..yes!..BUT I AM PROUD..PROUD THAT I AM NO LONGER FINANCING THIS EVIL..THAT AT LEAST..I CAN DO..AND HAVE DONE..DESPITE WHAT I HAVE TO LOSE..FOR THE LOSS OF MY FREEDOM..AND THE LOSS OF INNOCENT LIFE ON MY HANDS..MEANS MUCH MORE TO ME THAN...WORLDLY GOODS..IT IS THAT SIMPLE..I HAVE PUT MY MONEY..WHERE MY MOUTH IS...AND IT FEELS......GOOOOOOOD! FUCK YOU JUNIOR!...FUCK YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU LIVE CHENEY!...NOT IN MY NAME!
HOWEVER!..Every dollar sent..OUT OF FEAR..YO WILL DO anything RATHER THAN ADMIT..THAT YOU ARE AFRAID..OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT..AFRAID..OF REPRISAL FROM THE FEDERAL IRS..AFRAID OF TAKING ANY REAL "RISK" EVEN IF IT MEANS YOUR FREEDOM..HELL! YOUR VERY LIFE...SO MUCH EASIER TO JUST..ALLEGEDLY..FOR HOW WOULD ANYONE KNOW...."NOT SHOP"..
AND YEAH..BUSH DID SAY..'GO OUT AND SHOP.." YEAH..THEY NEED THAT..BUT IF THEY REALLY CARED ABOUYT WHAT STATE THE ECONOMY IS IN..WHY THE HELL IS GASOLINE...GOING TO BE $6 BY X-MASS? WHY? THEY DO NOT CARE...THEY ONLY NEED YOUR FEAR..AND THE MONEY THAT IT MAKES YOU SEND...THE DISPOSABLE BILLIONS..THAT IS ALL..SO CONTINUE TO GIVE IT TO THEM..YOU ARE A "COLLABORATOR"...AN "ENABLER" OF GLOBAL WAR..PERIOD..IT IS..AFTER ALL...YOUR MONEY...EVERY BOMB..EVERY BULLET...EVERY HOUR OF TORTURE...PAID FOR BY...YOU!
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
OR LIVE IN FEAR..AND SUPPORT THE EVIL THAT IS THE CORPORATE FASCIST THEOCRACY...THE CHOICE..ACTUALLY STILL IS YOURS TO MAKE...JUST LIKE THE RATIONAL TO DO NOTHING....IS YOURS TO MAKE...SO..ENJOY..THIS WAR BELONGS TO ALL THOSE THAT PAID FOR IT..NO ONE ELSE!
LIVE FREE OR DIE
The leaders of this country are immoral and corrupt to the bone. The lyin' king George got away with an illegal attack and occupation against Iraq (and Afghanistan) --- but no, that's not enough for the greedy war criminals. They've got Iran as their next target. :(
I'll vote for a peace candidate.
The hypocrisy of our actions is self-evident - to the world.
But not to our head-in-the-sand know-nothing population -
the equivalent of the 3 monkeys:
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak of no evil.
What a country!
BTW, lillulu, the term peace candidate is an oxymoron.
chet June 29th, 2008 2:02 pm -- "Why does Mr. Hersh's article fail to mention the constant anti-Iran Israeli propaganda campaign ..."
Well, he wouldn't want to be branded as "anti-Semitic" and perhaps he's unaware that the epithet has been rendered totally meaningless through prolonged misuse and abuse by AIPAC and others.
jcrumb..I appreciate your rants and understand your anger. Thing is, that at times, it helps to listen to what other folks are saying and respond accordingly. I have no problem with anger, but at times, one must take a breath and listen.
willybill: You hit the nail on the head. "A work or (and) consumer's strike.
"Take to the streets, withhold your labor." And like you say, for those who aren't working, don't shop, except for the very essential items you need.
This is the only way I know of that's workable.
jcrumb wrote:
"I have dutifully paid my tax..every MARCH..how about it..my entire adult life..UNTIL I BECAME CONVINCED..THAT MY MONEY..WAS BEING USED TO TAKE AWAY THE VERY RIGHTS I AM ALLEGEDLY PAYING TO HAVE PROTECTED"
Henry David Thoreau spent a night in jail for refusing to pay his taxes in protest of slavery and what he felt was an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation (Mexico). When his mentor Ralph Waldo Emerson came to visit him in jail, Emerson asked Thoreau what he was doing there in jail. Thoreau's response was to ask Emerson why he was not in there with him.
Perhaps a little "Civil Disobedience" a la Thoreau is needed here to wake people up to the fact that we do not want our tax dollars being used to wage war on innocent people, or to stir up hornet's nests in the Middle East, or in pursuit of imperial aspirations or control of other country's resources (read that, oil), or anything of the other crimes that the Bush White House has committed.
The most powerful movements in this country have come about via non-violent resistance, many of which were inspired by someone's having read Thoreau's essay, "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience". If you haven't had the chance to partake of that essay, I would highly suggest you high-tail it to the nearest library or bookstore and do so. Here is just one powerful excerpt that I find particularly timely:
"If the injustice is a part of the necessary friction of the machine of government, let it go, let it go: perchance it will wear smooth, - certainly the machine will wear out. If the injustice has a spring, or a pulley, or a rope, or a crank, exclusively for itself, then perhaps you may consider whether the remedy will not be worse than the evil; but if it is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. Let your life be a counter-friction to stop the machine. What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn."
A timely message, indeed.
" NMBill June 29th, 2008 12:35 pm
We claim Iran interferes with our occupation of Iraq!
Here we have a 400 million plus budget to overthrow the government of Iran!"
True, and with respect to Congress authorising more criminal war funding, this time for plans to attack Iran, I forget which articles (two) I read about this, but Nancy Pelosi and her congressional allies or partners stripped a clause from the recently passed $162bn war funding bill to allow the Bush-Cheney-... cabal to launch war on Iraq without needing congressional approval; letting them launch the war when and how ever they bloody wish, on their whims.
They also had the gall to add amendments for veterans' benefits, perhaps education, and for aid to the midwest flood victims, like trying to buy war support from all of these Americans; like for them to not oppose continuing war on Iraq, or else risk not receiving these benefits.
As for NMBill saying, "We claim Iran interferes with our occupation of Iraq!", yes, definitely, they have been making such claims; however, the following resources shows what has been really going on in the hellish, dark, satanic, ... world of Bush, Cheney, ..., the US and UK intelligence specialists, and much more; while that includes obtaining the treasonous assistance (of course paid for) of former officers, perhaps specialists, of Saddam's military forces, and expatriate Iraqis who pretended to be humanitarian, .... They ARE the so-called "sectarian" fighting, "civil war", "Al Qa'ida in Iraq", "suicide" car bombings, and so on. And this all very much operates through the US Interior Ministry in Iraq, aka the (puppet) Iraqi Interior Ministry, which [is] topmost occupied, physically too, by the U.S., and controlled by the U.S. We learn that the Iraqis who were unjustifiably "arrested", i.e., abducted, detained, hellishly tortured, ..., including with 'Black & Decker drills' applied to their heads and others parts of the body, that this was under U.S. and U.K. watch, and that even some exposed instances were actually committed by UK soldiers or special ops members, f.e.
For years, now, the Badr Brigade or Organisation was blamed for many of the kidnappings and killings, but the article by Max Fuller well analyses the real situation in Iraq and we learn that the Badr may have been guilty in some cases, but evidently not most.
In these resources, readers learn of the hellish 'counter-insurgency' operations of the USA and UK, and their traitor Iraqi buddies. WE learn a LOT from these resources, and Symour Hersh is certainly one of the many sources referred to.
"State-Sponsored Terror: British and American Black Ops in Iraq
by Andrew G. Marshall
Global Research, June 25, 2008″
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9447
The following references are all pages and/or articles at BT, the 'Brussels Tribunal' (no space, followed by the org ending or suffix, whatever it's called, and using this manner of referring to it due to WordPress having rejected my link to the website earlier last week). The following are for web searches to perform and you'll find the intended articles linked at or near the very top of the first pages of links returned by Google, if that's what you use.
BT ref. 1 keywords:
"Salvador Option Exposed"
Also include the domain name of the BT website along with the above search phrase enclosed in quotes as it appears above. With Google, the search will return the link for the article and it was the first link for me just yesterday.
BT ref. 2:
In that BT 'Salvador Option Exposed' page and from the links at the top of the page,:
a) Use the Max Fuller articles link, read that page, and then read the article he links at the top of that page and for the article, 'Ghosts of Jadiriyah. A survivor's testimony (14 Nov 2006)'.
b) I haven't read more of his articles at BT yet, but more evidently are titled such that they definitely seem to be specifically pertinent to what the purpose of this post is.
c) With the links at the top of the BT 'Salvador Options Page', check the index of articles by Sarah Meyer, who is a member of the BT Advisory Committee and host or provider of IndexResearch blog, for which you'll find a link in at least some of her articles at BT.
Again, read the whole BT 'Salvador Options Page', and note that while some of the articles (copies, along with links to the original copies) of the many included in the page, the first few or more are on the cover, undercover, Arab-dressed, ... British special ops bombers caught entering Basra during Sep. 2005, while the remaining articles are also on bombings in Iraq, but certainly not all on those two British schmucks, murderers.
On them, those two psychopaths, the BT page provides information I hadn't seen before, including pictures of the weapons these mass murderers were carrying with them in their car. There's also the fact that Britain promptly sent in a tank to smash the jail in order to get the two special ops actors, who (I learned from BT) were not even in the jail; and apparently 130 or so violent criminals were able to flee. (Ha, or huh, head-scracther, ...; or duh?!)
And to get to those article copies, they follow the considerable list of Resources links.
In the index of articles by Sarah Meyer, there are evidently pertinent articles alright, but I haven't read these yet so can't say anything precise on their content; only knowing she is a good resource provider. In her index there are articles entitled, f.e.:
"The Battle For Basra Timeline: Footsteps to U.S. War in Iran? (Sarah Meyer, 08 April 2008)"
...
* Security Company Death Squads Timeline (Dirk Adriaensens & Sarah Meyer, 25 September 2007)
* Iraq Oil Reality vs the NY Times (Sarah Meyer, 15 September 2007)
...
* Iraq Oil: The Vultures are Waiting (Sarah Meyer, 03 September 2007) (updated recently)"
Of those, I particularly wished to mention the 'Security Company Death Squads' one, but perhaps the 'Basra timeline' and the OIL-related articles are pertinent for this post, given Iran is RICH in oil and (possibly anyway) natural gas resources, while so is Iraq, and Afghanistan isn't, but is a resource country for passage of an oil pipeline that's been long been in the planning or project phase of the U.S. govt and its ruling elites. I think it's the CEO or some other high official of Unocal who addressed Congress on Afghanistan being the sole logical choice for the "needed" pipeline for piping oil from a Caspian Sea country rich in oil, and to get the oil to sea ports, so to Pakistan, through Afghanistan, and to avoid dealing with Iran and/or Iraq. I think it's Iran he had referred to, and this was back around 1996, or around then.
You'll have to excuse me for saying so but witholding my labor hurts me not them. I want to hurt them.
We live pretty much based on my checks even though we have some savings we are not willing to keep dipping into what savings we have except for necessities. We are now using savings to buy food since one check does not cover everything. Mortgage, utilities and taxes suck up the check and we don't live high. I have been biking to work now for two years and the last time we filled up our little truck was May 18th and we still have a half tank left. Trust me, we live close to the bone.
Here in SOuth Florida there are no jobs. Even immmigrants are leaving. Lots of new rentals where they lived springing up.
This administration has decided to invade Iran. There is nothing we can do. They are not going to be the ones to suffer. We will. We already are. There is only one way we can stop this journey the oiligarchy is on.
How likely is it that millions will rise up and revolt?
I hear you, jcrumb! I would love to break from involuntarily supporting them financially! But, how? Just quit and live off the land? I'm not being facetious, either. HOW can we do it, folks? It's past "about time", afterall.
This is so disturbing. More disturbing is that none of this will reach the eyes and ears of the public because the MSM will not report on it -- although Hersh did appear on CNN. We've already begun hostilities with Iran. As bush pushes incrementally forward with more and more overt and brazen activities, at what point will Congress yell, "Stop!" ? I have a feeling they won't wake up until the bombs are falling and they'll roll over again, saying, "Too late . . . we have to support the president." The "gang of eight" that Hersh refers to are as culpable for our slide into the future war on Iran as bush is. They are being informed of the actions, yet tell us they are helpless because of the classified nature of the information. That is b..lsh.t. They have a moral obligation.
JH June 29th, 2008 4:22 pm ...CONgress is an immoral, corrupt organization, as much as they would like you to believe otherwise. The "skeletons" in their closets are a large part of the shrubs persuasiveness. All smoke and mirrors lacking any true integrity, with Pelosi and Reid at the forefront leading the demons.
One might think that it could be well argued that we the taxpayer are no longer financing these war of aggression adventures abroad, but that it is the Chinese and other foreign holders of U.S. debt who are doing so. Secondly, isn't it ironic that this administration is backing the MEK and baluchi tribespeople with their own ties to terrorism, and in the case of the latter, to both WTC attacks? I suppose if you're going to have a perpetual war (i.e. TWOT - "The War On Terror") then one objective of the utmost importance is to ensure you have well financed and armed enemies of the future. Wasn't that what the CIA's program in Afghanistan during the 1980s was all about? Never underestimate CHENEY/bush and company for being short-sighted. That would give them too much credit.
Again and again--pass this on. IF Bush DOES hit Houston, we must let the American people understand what is happening!
Read, this, please!~!!
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/13/9596/
I strongly disagree with any suggestions that demonstrations or taking anything "to the street" are prudent. After many decades, the mob mentality has been fully anticipated and analyzed. Participants will be consumed, either figuratively or otherwise, by a machine, just like in "The Wall".
The system is no longer tooled to respond with so much as a blink to overt behavior.
slothman June 29th, 2008 4:43 pm ...Believe me, as indentured servants, you and your descendants ARE paying for this war.
Ken Nuti June 29th, 2008 4:45 pm...We are devoured one way or the other. Why not go down fighting? Have we become so passive as to sit back and watch our country being destroyed for some corporate bottom line? Will you fight for your family....your children's future?
slimshady wrote:
"I hear you, jcrumb! I would love to break from involuntarily supporting them financially! But, how? Just quit and live off the land? I'm not being facetious, either. HOW can we do it, folks? It's past "about time", afterall."
Well, the fact is, our tax dollars aren't really paying for their wars of aggression in the Middle East anymore. For years now, we've been borrowing money from China to finance our wars, and since we can't do anything about that, well, there's really nothing we CAN do to stop supporting them financially, because truth to tell, we really aren't. And we can't just up and tell China to stop lending us money. The US would collapse like a house of cards if we stopped our relentless borrowing from them, very much like the whole subprime mortgage scandal brought down some venerable old financial institutions like Bear Stearns.
So, yeah, we can enact a mass refusal to pay our taxes to support their wars, but really, they're just going to go to China with hands out begging for more money, and don't you know, they'll up and give it to us, plunging us deeper and deeper and deeper into debt. I think that's part of their motive, to eventually bankrupt us and bring us down so that they can be the sole superpower in the world instead of us.
Don't underestimate China. They're no dummies. They know exactly what they're doing, little by little, dollar by dollar, lending us so much money that we'll never, ever be able to repay it, because if we tried, it'd bankrupt us in a New York minute.
But look, folks, the big crash has already begun. In the past few days, the Dow Jones Industrial lost over 400 points in a steep slide. Consumer confidence is down, oil prices are through the roof, housing prices continue their steep plunge downward, the dollar continues to steadily weaken against foreign economies (63¢ against the Euro and 50¢ against the British Pound) - it all points to one thing, and that's a coming Depression the likes of which we haven't seen in almost 80 years, and this time, it's going to be much, much worse, deeper, longer and harder to climb out of.
UNLESS, that is, we can invest all of our resources into "green collar" jobs to jump start our already anemic and sagging economy. That's where the future likes, kids. Get in on the ground floor, because it's the future. Just like the dot-com boom of a decade or so ago, green collar jobs are the way of the future. Good, solid jobs with good pay that will just continue high demand and growth. People already in the green collar sector report high and steady growth in their industries and a need for trained employees to fill the jobs that are being created as these industries continue their rapid expansion.
So what we need are Rooseveltian programs like the WPA, the PWA and the CCC to get people working again, only this time in green collar jobs AND in rebuilding our aging infrastructure. It's been done before and it can be done again, retooled for the 21st century needs. It's going to take innovative thinking and a major retooling of the way we do things in this country, but the future belongs to the brave. We don't have time to wait for the weak willed or the faint of heart. We must move boldly into the future, knowing full well that if we don't, we will live to regret the day we neglected to do so. It's now or never.
SallyUUKent June 29th, 2008 4:57 pm We are already bankrupt. Our children's future is financing this war. Our taxes simply go to pay the interest on our debt based currency.
Presently, no one has the answer to an out of control corporatocracy. Short of revolt, we will go deeper into slavery, void of ALL right and freedoms.
Hunger, homelessness and stagnation may lead to an awakening. But, with the pervasiveness of a dumbed and numbed culture, who knows any longer. One action that may instigate revolt is to remove the drug of TV. Since TPTB will never allow this, the slaves will remain in chains..fed and entertained.
read this and have fear. and pass it on to save America
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/13/9596/
Ha, the US is now confirmed to be funding Al-Qaeda linked militants. This is how the US repays Iran for helping it in Afghanistan and Iraq. Indeed, Afghanistan would have been a bigger mess without Iran's ties with the Northern Alliance and all the Iraqi politicians that it hosted who now serve as US puppets.
I was suggesting that covert behavior is highly preferable to overt mob mentality behavior. It's already underway. That is how we are protecting our children and families.
These losers won't know they are defeated until it is too late. Their own belligerence is their greatest weakness. Resurrect your 'Hogan's Heroes' acumen! {:o)
Ken Nuti June 29th, 2008 6:02 pm ...Guess I am out of the loop. Must be things going on of which I am unaware...a result of living isolated in the woods. God speed to all of us.
War against Iran was declared March 20,2008. Could it be because Iran like Iraq decided to price their oil in anything but dollars?
The US Declaration of War on Iran
A Chinese language version of this article is available at The Chinese Business Network
John McGlynn
March 20, 2008, destined to be another day of infamy. On this date the US officially declared war on Iran. But it's not going to be the kind of war many have been expecting.
No, there was no dramatic televised announcement by President George W. Bush from the White House oval office. In fact on this day, reports the Washington Post, Bush spent some time communicating directly with Iranians, telling them via Radio Farda (the US-financed broadcaster that transmits to Iran in Farsi, Iran's native language) that their government has "declared they want to have a nuclear weapon to destroy people." But not to worry, he told his listeners in Farsi-translated Bushspeak: Tehran would not get the bomb because the US would be "firm."
http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2707
No wonder Iran refers to the US as the "Great Satan"!
The West have spoiled everything that Iran have tried to do in the last 50 years.
Without Western (US) interventionism, there would be no terrorism in the World.
Would anyone like to start a betting pool at to which US or Israeli city get s hit with an 'Iranian nuke' to get this whole show on the road?
New York is passe, so it's automatically off the list.
Washington, D.C.? Nah, too obvious.
Houston? Good choice, and already pegged as a target for a 'hurricane' in a recent CNN puff pice that actually drummed up support for a was against Iran.
New Orleans? Why not? It would finish the job that Bush and Brownie started after Katrina, and would get the manufactured sympathy level waaay up.
LA? Again, why not? After all , Arnie could use a new motivation to play the 'Terminator'. And by hitting the womb of the American Dream factory (not to mention playing up sympathy for poor Mickey and friends), the Bush Junta would be assured of a titanic outpouring of 'moral outrage' right on cue. Besides, it's not like any *people* live there. Just movie stars and illegal immigrants ( at least according to the right wings TV and radio talking heads)
Anyone else have a place they want to suggest for the 'hit' parade?
Don't quit paying taxes or take steps that will just earn the ire of some local agency and harm yourself or your family. We need you alive and kick'n.
Technically knowledgeable folks are at an advantage. Rather than complain about FISA, for example, set up a fake code and spread disinformation in a way that telecom stooges might intercept. Stuff like that.
I BCC all my e-mail rants and what-have-you to the Justice Dept. just for kicks. Haven't had any blowback yet and I don't expect any because these losers are inept.
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
Roughly 40% of the American population is perfectly content remaining in Iraq for 4 more years.
40% of the American public is perfecly content remaining in Iraq for 4 more years.
40% of the American public is perfecly content remaining in Iraq for 4 more years.
40% of the American public is perfecly content remaining in Iraq for 4 more years.
40% of the American public is perfecly content remaining in Iraq for 4 more years.
40% of the American public is perfecly content remaining in Iraq for 4 more years.
"SallyUUKent June 29th, 2008 4:57 pm
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... And we can't just up and tell China to stop lending us money. The US would collapse like a house of cards if we stopped our relentless borrowing from them, very much like the whole subprime mortgage scandal brought down some venerable old financial institutions like Bear Stearns."
Some people correctly enough have stated or argued the opposite view; saying that what you say is to be absolutely avoided is to, instead, be made reality. The argument basically is that CRASHING the U.S. economy nationwide might cause enough outrage from enough of the population that the govt and its ruling elites might finally perceive enough strong backlashing at home, i.e., in the USA, to their crimes that the elites would then put a halt to their crimes. It perhaps is a long-shot hope, but there's NO other way for any hope at all.
The elites clearly tell us that they don't want strong nationwide protest, but support. All we need to do to SEE that they tell us this is to realise that we are flooded with continuous propaganda that has the purpose of DECEIVING the population into supporting the elites' secret agendas. If they did not fear strong nationwide protest, then they would not perceive the strategic need to continuously work on deceiving the masses.
SallyUUKent also said, "So, yeah, we can enact a mass refusal to pay our taxes to support their wars, ....".
The realistic tax protesters did not call for stopping payment of [all] taxation, but only the portion that the IRS forms state goes to funding the military.
As for not underestimating China and the intentions, objectives of its govt, people should carefully keep in mind that there is more than one issue or concern involved, and one is that if China dumped all it owns in the U.S. treasury or federal reserve (where ever the ownings are in the U.S.), then this would not only send the U.S. economy crashing, being obliterated, but would have serious repercussions on a serious international scale. Another issue is that the U.S. is a serious consumer of products made in China, and the poorer Americans become, then more many more of them will be looking for the much less expensive alternatives among China-made products.
Perhaps another concern for the govt of China is that if it did cause the total crash of the U.S. economy, leaving the U.S. govt unable to obtain enough tax dollars from taxpayers, then maybe the ruling elites of the U.S. govt and military superpower would order striking China and possibly, if not probably, with nukes; if totally crashing the U.S. economy seriously damaged the geopolitical geo-economic projects of the ruling elites of the U.S. govt, that is.
Anyway, there's surely more than one concern preoccupying the leaders of the govt of China.
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Slothman wrote of the MEK and baluchans in Iran, and the U.S. govt, Bush, Cheney, etcetera, covertly using these groups in Iran for the purpose of achieving the objectives of the ruling elites of the U.S. govt. I have two things to say on this:
1) Since when has it become a part of the story of the 9-11 attacks, that either of those groups were involved, for I don't recall having ever seen any of the many writers and analysts I've read on the 9-11 attacks saying that either of these groups was involved; and slothman provides no references that would supposedly support his claim?
2) SEE my first post in which an article by Andrew G. Marshall and a few references to Brussels Tribunal resources are provided. These strongly explain why the U.S. covertly uses such groups for its EVIL objectives, and that the U.S. really, truly does; as well as it being far from a new reality with the U.S. govt.
All of those references are with respect to Iraq, but reading those I specified, for there are many others linked in the BT page for 'Salvador Option Exposed' (today in Iraq), as well as in the list of references provided by Andrew Marshall. Otoh, the Sarah Meyer index of articles linked in the main BT page I referred to has links to articles about other contexts, i.e., countries, too.
The references to the articles by Andrew Marshall and Max Fuller, as well as most of the articles for which there are copies in the main BT page I referred to (the SOE one) are really important to read, although I think those by Marshall and Fuller should be given higher priority for reading first. Fuller's two articles are much more thorough than the one by Marshall is, but his is also important, and being shorter makes it quick to get it read and out of the way.
I doubt that there are more than very few people who've read what Fuller provides, and very well source-supported it is, in addition to his analysis being clearly and seriously qualitative. It's no luxury to take the time to carefully read both of his articles, at the very least; it's not luxury, but really something people should make a [must].
And for people who haven't read it yet, the article simo says is important and provides a link for is indeed important. People who learn nothing new from it can just do the mature thing and shut the fuck up, instead of making stupid statements. What's important is that people who LEARN from the article really should treat it as also being [must] reading; therefore, people who haven't read it should.
NMBill June 29th, 2008 12:35 pm: "As professor Chomsky says, compare the two using the same standards!"
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Well I do. And I find that Iran has killed over a million Americans in the last 3 years, whereas the U.S. military has only killed 4,000 in Iraq since 2003 - and not a single one of them on purpose. I do compare the two by the same standard.
Soeharto June 29th, 2008 10:53 pm
Yeah Iran is responsible now for the deaths of the Iraqis.
Just like Saddam was personally involved in 9-11.
Nutjob.
"They've invented an entire language to shield themselves from reality."
The disregard (and/or ignorance) displayed by this administration in their dealings with Iran defies logic. But this is consistent with their policies.
mastershake June 29th, 2008 11:17 pm "...Saddam was personally involved in 9-11."
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Indeed. This is something we should have faced up to long ago. But, as you say, we've invented an entire language to shield ourselves from reality.
China receives about 345,000 barrels of oil a day from Iran.
Iran's remunerated via technical assistance with their uranium enrichment program and cash for batteries of SS-N-22 Sunburn anti-ship/carrier missiles.
Iran is sudying closely and may accept the incentives program offered by the Iran-6,
If it does, and Israel/the US attack(s),
It will harden Iran's resolve; they'll go after a nuclear weapon Manhatten Project style, with all 80 million of it's nationals behind the effort.
And Persians abroad as well;
Persia may be attacked, but it won't be fractured again.
Soeharto June 29th, 2008 11:55 pm
I feel so secure now that we took him out. Those box cutters had Iraqi labels right on them.
mastershake June 30th, 2008 12:24 am "Those box cutters had Iraqi labels right on them."
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Yes. I think it was Hannity that made that point first, and you show courage raising it here. He also revealed to us that there WERE massive stockpiles of WMDs, indeed 9 times more than Rumsfeld had predicted, but this has been studiously airbrushed out by the MSM.