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US and EU Seen Near Private Data Deal
NEW YORK - The United States and the European Union are near a deal on letting law enforcement and security agencies obtain private information like credit card transactions and travel histories about people on the other side of the Atlantic, The New York Times reported on Saturday.
The newspaper, which obtained an internal report on the potential agreement, said it would amount to a diplomatic breakthrough for U.S. counterterrorism officials after a history of clashing with the EU over demands for personal data.
It was unclear when the agreement could be completed, the Times said, citing officials, but the Bush administration wants to resolve the issues before leaving office in January and is hoping for an agreement that would not require congressional approval.
Negotiators, meeting since February 2007, have mostly worked out draft language for 12 major issues at the heart of a "binding international agreement," according to the report. Among other things, the pact would make clear that European governments and companies could lawfully exchange personal information with the United States.
A major unresolved issue is whether residents of EU countries would be able to sue the U.S. government over its handling of their personal data, the Times said. U.S. law does not allow foreigners to sue the U.S. government for damages in such instances, the Times said.
The talks resulted from conflicts between the United States and Europe over information-sharing after the September 11 attacks. The Bush administration had demanded access to passenger data held by airlines flying out of Europe and by a consortium, known as Swift, which tracks global bank transfers. Several EU countries objected, citing privacy laws.
U.S. and EU officials hope to avoid future confrontations "by finding common ground on privacy and by agreeing not to impose conflicting obligations on private companies," the Times quoted Stewart Baker, assistant secretary for policy at the Homeland Security Department, as saying.
"Globalization means that more and more companies are going to get caught between U.S. and European law," said Baker, who is involved in the talks.
Some European officials expressed concern at the prospective agreement's ramifications.
"I am very worried that once this will be adopted, it will serve as a pretext to freely share our personal data with anyone, so I want it to be very clear about exactly what it means and how it will work," said Sophia in't Veld, a Dutch member of the European Parliament and privacy rights advocate.
Negotiators are trying to work out minimum privacy rights standards, such as limiting access to information to "authorized individuals with an identified purpose" for seeing it, the Times said.
Writing by Chris Michaud, Editing by Peter Cooney
© 2008 Reuters



7 Comments so far
Show All...."Authorized individuals..with an identified purpose"....so...ANYONE..basically...with access to a terminal..
HOLY NED! When is this going to piss enough people off..that counter measures are implemented?
Where are the HACKERS? with an email virus that adds "Hot words" to emails.."EXPLOSIVES..THE PRESIDENT..ALLAH!" there...it is done..but.if 20 million of you..ALSO do this..HUP! can the little snoops and scumbag clerks..(it was the clerks that gave Hitler his power..)keep up with that?
COUNTER MEASURES PEOPLE..COUNTER MEASURES..
If our own governments..are going to ASSUME we are ALL "ENEMY COMBATANTS" then ..and treat us as such..well...maybe it's time to start "acting like we have something to hide..."
If your privacy..means NOTHING to you..like all those that use the above LINE to rationalize away their own privacy..well..then..maybe it's time to show the world just what it REALLY means to have a POPULACE that DOES NOT TRUST IT'S GOVERNMENT..AT ALL..not merely ..VERBALLY..as in posts..etc...but FOR REAL!...see how far they get with an ADVERSARIAL POPULACE..as opposed to a...bunch of..hunched over beaten dogs..
Okay..kind of..scrambled..try this...SWAMP THE SYSTEM..OVERLOAD THE SNOOPS..OVERLOAD THE WATCHERS...MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT TO WATCH..THAT THEY CANNOT DO IT..they thunk they can..but they CANNOT..
And finally..YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS PROGRAM!
YOU PAY FOR THE WAR..THE TORTURE..ALL OF IT..SO..IF YOUR PRIVACY..YOUR RIGHTS..ANY OF IT...MEANS ANYTHING TO YOU...IT IS TIME TO STOP FINANCING THIS PUSH TOWARD "FRIENDLY FASCISM"..(Were only watching...that' all...that's harmless..right?..unless you have something to hide..--read: unless you are an example of effective chamnge or resistance--then..WATCH OUT..WE ARE COMING..)
Better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees....
{article quote}: "but the Bush administration wants to resolve the issues before leaving office in January and is hoping for an agreement that would not require congressional approval."
Goodness knows why the bushies would be worried about congressional approval? Nancy will gladly swallow anything georgie-boy shoots at her.
Some New World Order.
Winston Smith and the rest of us will soon be introduced to Room 101 in the Ministry of Love. Alas, poor Julia, I betrayed you and you betrayed me. But with the world at the 'Tipping Point' this too shall end.
And finally..YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS PROGRAM!
Et tu, jcrumb, Et tu.
Um...maybe it's just me but the inference of this article is that the Europeans are afraid that we will do to them what evidently is already being done to us in the USA.
Oh.
Great! Now we'll have to get retroactive immunity for European telecoms.
Great, while most Western Europeans have stopped trusting the US, our stupid politicians, who're supposed to representing us, don't seem/want to understand that no government is ever to be trusted, not even the most benign. So handing over our data to an empire-building country like the US is handing over the keys, if they haven't that already in many other ways, to our city and we all know what happened after that: rape and pillage. Welcome to the Fourth Reich, I guess.