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How Does President Bush Lie?
Let Cy Bolton count the memos.
In the face of overwhelming evidence, it's astounding that people such as James Kirchick, in "," continue to defend the president against accusations that he intentionally misled and outright lied to the American people in making the case for war with Iraq.
Consider first the implications of the famous Downing Street memo from July 23, 2002. Briefing Tony Blair about his recent talks with Washington, Britain's top intelligence officer stated that U.S. "military action was now seen as inevitable. ... But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."
A month later, in August 2002, the administration set up the White House Iraq Group, designed solely to sell the public on the imminent threat posed by Saddam Hussein. In essence, it was a marketing campaign to sell the war by escalating the rhetoric and misleading the public. And lying.
And boy, did they. Here are statements from the administration in 2002 as they beat the drums for war. Dick Cheney said: "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use ... against us." Condoleezza Rice: "We do know that [Hussein] is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon." Donald Rumsfeld: "[Hussein's] regime has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons."
These statements were designed to cultivate in Americans fear of Iraq's imminent threat, the keystone of Bush's push to war. They were grossly and intentionally misleading, suggesting that the administration possessed incontrovertible facts on which were drawn these definitive conclusions. In reality, the facts were known to be ambiguous at best. Absolutely no intelligence existed at the time that would allow anyone to reach such concrete conclusions.
And Bush advisors aren't the only ones. His assertion on Oct. 7, 2002, that Iraq posed an imminent threat was beaten into the nation's psyche: "Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof." Yet the president possessed directly opposing information from the top-secret National Intelligence Estimate, released days earlier. Prepared by the CIA with input from 16 U.S. intelligence agencies: "Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional CBW [chemical and biological weapons] against the United States."
The declassified summary of the NIE -- released by the administration for public and media review shortly after the full report -- was another lie in that it was grotesquely altered. The above point was not included. Also missing were several forceful statements from other intelligence agencies disputing the CIA's horribly overblown and inaccurate assessments. Finally, in at least half a dozen instances, conclusions were altered to make Iraq's threat more compelling. Language was added or omitted that changed CIA opinions to incontrovertible facts
Conclusion: The public document was rigged to support the push for war. The president intentionally misled the public. The intelligence and facts were fixed around the policy.
Another example is the now infamous nuclear reference from Bush's 2003 State of the Union address: "Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Not only was this refuted twice in early 2002 -- by former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV and by French intelligence -- but the CIA's National Intelligence Council investigated and told the White House four days before the address that "the Niger [Africa] story is baseless and should be laid to rest." So the administration knew the claim was false, used it anyway and when caught, issued a collective "oops." Although these speeches are vetted by Bush staffers, State, Defense, National Security and the CIA, it just slipped through. Riiiiight.
Two weeks before the war, the president echoed statements made in January's State of the Union: "I've got a good evidence to believe that. [Saddam Hussein] has weapons of mass destruction," and "Iraqi operatives continue to hide biological and chemical agents to avoid detection by inspectors." Ah yes, the mobile labs. And your evidence was from whom, sir? Curveball? The now fully discredited Iraqi chemical engineer who defected in 1999 and claimed to have worked in the labs? In 2002, German intelligence -- who debriefed Curveball -- told the CIA that the guy was "crazy" and "a fabricator."
Yet in his push for war, Bush chose to voice the Iraqi defector's claims over proof offered by U.N. weapons inspectors who, with eyes and ears on the ground, represented the best possible intelligence. From November 2002 to March 2003, they were granted unprecedented freedom and conducted more than 700 no-notice inspections all over Iraq and found nothing. No mobile labs, no underground storage facilities, nothing. This should have been great news, but not for a president looking to go to war. Indeed, U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix flat out accused Bush and Blair of lying when he stated: "The Americans and British created facts where there were no facts at all. ... The Americans needed [to find] weapons of mass destruction to justify war." So Bush was creating facts to justify war.
If there remains any equivocation of Bush's propensity to lie, consider the Jan. 31, 2003, meeting between Bush and Blair. In a summary, Blair foreign policy advisor David Manning wrote that there was tension between the two over finding some justification for the war. In fact, Bush was so concerned about the failure of the weapons inspectors to find WMD that the president floated three possible ways to "provoke a confrontation" with Hussein. So here's your president very publicly using self-defense to sell a war while quite privately discussing how to provoke one -- with an allegedly dangerous foe who poses an imminent threat. Either Bush lied or he put us at grave risk. Or both.
Space constraints don't allow for a refutation of all the lies the president told about Iraq's threat, their weapons and their link to Osama bin Laden. However, consider this final point: Our government spent nearly tens of millions of dollars to try to impeach a president for lying about consensual sex between two adults. Compare that to this abomination: George W. Bush knowingly lied to the American people in selling his case for a war that has directly led to the deaths of more than 4,000 Americans. They are deaths brought about by his lies, deceit and deception. It is an American atrocity of monumental proportion, followed closely by the heinous fact that no one has held him accountable. Where is the outrage?
Cy Bolton is a former news anchor and military affairs reporter. His coverage of defense-related issues and conflicts in the Balkans and the Middle East has appeared on NBC Nightly News, MSNBC, CNN and affiliates across the country.
Copyright 2008 Los Angeles Times
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Show AllLet us hope that Bugliosi remains intact and can being his case to court..As he has said, there is no statute of limitation on murder. The shrub and his cohorts lied us into two illegal wars. They all must be tried and prosecuted for the murder of over 4000 American troopS and MILLIONS of Iraqi and Afghan men, women, children and infants. AND in the process, may the TRUTH OF 9/11 BE REVEALED!
The only time I would ever believe G.W. would be if he told me he was lying.
I think the fault lies in thinking Bush really had much to do with any of this. He's the playboy/cowboy set up to be the frontman. Clinton's impeachment was part of the neocon plan. They knew impeachable offensives were going to be committed by Bush after he was elected. So they in effect took impeachment out of the equation by impeaching Clinton.
And once you do that, anything goes. Subpeonas, investigations, contempt charges, who cares. They just don't show up. Combine that with the Bible and the Flag, and they have an almost unbeatable plan. We'll know in November if it's truly unbeatable.
Incidentally, to answer the articles question, "How Does Bush Lie" (apologies...I cannot use the President word)...Answer:..When he moves his lips!!
He lies the same way Obama does, only Obama lies a lot better, he's intelligent.
WOW!
Mr Bolton, you have courageously rewritten the rewrites of rewrites of the rewrites. Very impressive regurgitation indeed.
Does this fool think he has a SCOOP here?
If you only read www.wsws.org in 2002 you would have known nearly everything he breathlessly scoops here SIX years later. WTF
There is no outrage because the media is not outraged. Americans always follow the agenda of their media. American journalists feed the media their pablum and Americans suck it up like pussy cats. When outrage is needed we'll be told by the media.
Bush's lies won't be dealt with by our Congress as they are all part of the same political game when it comes to holding onto their seats in the Uncle Buck Party. George Carlin said Americans were owned by the corporations, and that included our politicians.
Hoa binh
Potheads aren't known for a tendency toward direct action. They don't feel the outrage, after all. You want the masses to rise up, first you have to take away their opiates.
Its not lying, its misinformation.
Thank you Mr. Cy Bolton for this groundbreaking piece of journalism.
Where is the outrage?
It's been sublimated into consumerism.
You will find it at the mall.
How does bush lie? All day, every day. If he's speaking, it's not true. Follow that rule, you won't be deceived.
Poor old George is such a terrible liar.
Both in quantity and quality.
Let me count the ways.
George Wanker Bush is once again making noise about his brother, Jeb Rancid Bush, becoming president. In the year 2012 the American public is going to be as angry as the Old Testament God in a steroid rage because the United States will probably be in even worse condition than it is now. If McCain is president he will be nearly 76 years old and probably call it quits, figuring that another 4 years of low popularity numbers and the never-ending criticism of him that easily gets under his microscopically thin skin aren't worth it (even if his multi millionaire trophy wife wants to go on and on being the reincarnation of Nancy Reagan). If Obama is the president and the nation is as it is now, or even worse, his act will have completely worn out. So much for change you can believe in. In steps The Great White Hope, Jeb Rancid Bush, touted by the Republican party and the MSM as the next savior of the USA. Anne Coulter will have him on every week at Meet The Press. You say to yourself now that no one, not even the most half-assed of the half-assed American people, will ever again vote for a Wanker or a Rancid. You are so wrong. Bush 2012. And that's no lie.
Fanman, I stopped reading after the first paragraph.
Kem Patrick, who in your world is not a liar?
"How Does President Bush Lie?" -- Effortlessly.
Our "born again" Christian(?) prez used religion & fear to manipulate the masses. Too bad no one really paid attention to Christ's words in The Sermon On The Mount. OH! Wait a moment!!!! Those words do not count in today's world....like for instance... when we needed to invade a country to "kick butt!!!" Bush lied, America knew it and didn't care. It was (according to millions of evangelical Christians) the right thing to do and on some levels they made it a religious war. At first this administration blamed the lies on "mistakes" or "mis-information"...."it was the speech writers fault". However, after this administration figured out most Americans wouldn't make a fuss about the lies.....there were no more excuses given. Now, we are waiting for Bush (the puppet)& Cheney (the puppet master)to leave office. Make a fuss about the lies? I don't see it happening, nor does this administration!
Mordechai frightens me.
gnerallee sez:
Fanman, I stopped reading after the first paragraph
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What concentration you have--I stopped reading after the headline.
Kem Patrick and Mordechai:
Your non-stop cynicism runs like on old scratchy LP skipping over and over again. I'm thinking many of us glance and skip your posts by now. I'm beginning to. You're both such downers...
~ SAMSKI ~
The fear that you feel for Mordechai, is nothing but a spark of recognition of what you might see in the mirror when you're totally honest.
I accept the fact that I am killing millions in the "name of freedom", even though it also is disgusting and wicked beyond words, to my own sense of morality -- these deeds are done with implicit "control" of the US COngress, whose supposed to be under popular control, through a Prez elected by popular expression.
If there is much emotional reaction to something, that's a great clue that it has more to do with oneself, than most people of ever aware of.
Namaste
Wait a minute... What was that about pot heads?
"The Bush Public Statements on Iraq"March 2004), "Report on the US Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq" (Senate Intelligence Committee (July 2004), The Senate Select Committee report from June, 2008 is all the information needed to impeach Bush, Cheney and a couple dozen others for a war of aggression and aiding and abetting that war. Senator Bond of Missouri tried to offer up 170 amendments to the most recent report that would have made it useless. The report stated that the Bush Administration made statements about Iraq that they knew were not true. many people don't want to acknowledge how involved the neo-con Zionists were in helping created the lies. Paul Wolfowitz and William Luti brought in other like minded acomplices to assist them in the creation of the lies and they were fed directly to Cheney and the White House. Some of the names were Larry Franklin (doing 12 years hard time in the federal pen for giving government secrets to Israel), Douglas Feith, Abram Shulsky,Michael Rubin, Elliot Abrams, Morris Amitay, Michael Ledeen, Kenneth Adelman, David Shenker. The present set of reasons for the proposed attack against Iran is being led by the American Israeli Public Affairs Committer (AIPAC) which is a lobbying and propaganda arm for the Likud party of Israel. We will be charged with being anti-semitic, but remember there are Israelis who call these people rabid Zionists. There is a reason that the Likud party isn't in power. The Israelis don't trust them and their saber rattling.
The many different groups at which we are outraged spin around as if on a wheel of misfortune. Some days its Bush & Co., other days the pointer stops at the MS Media., and this week it is pointing directly at the spineless Congress.
Where's our sense of outrage you ask? Our national outrage, wet with tears for those who have died in war, by those who are homeless because of Katrina, or by the mortgage subloan crisis, who work several jobs just to survive, or who are just crying out for justice over greed and graft and selfishness among our government leaders, is accumulating like mud atop a very high mountain. Already, tremors are being felt in an increasing number of states across this country. Come November, watch out, the members of those groups who chose, (let's say it again: chose) to build their houses on such blatently weak foundations, will be washed up by the landslide in November.
Amen!
I'd just be happy to a list of Obama's lies. As far as I can tell he hasn't had any issues with interns, he hasn't lied us into war. He hasn't claimed to be a successful businessman who will run the country like a successful business. But I'm sure he's lied about something. He's not Jesus after all. If he was, his mother would still be a virgin.
Maybe he's a secret Muslim like Steve says...
RICH M: You raise the point I would have... it's amazing the jingoism implicit in stating only one "side" of the big score card!
( Nice post above, Coyotita )
Article reads: "These statements were designed to cultivate in Americans fear of Iraq's imminent threat..." (and etc)
Take heart folks:
There will come a day when 'Joe & Jolene Average-American' will awake from their deep *sleep of ages* ~ and a new and very powerful force will then be released upon the lying, deceiving, cheating devils 'at the top'.
In that hour, the likes of us (the progressive and slightly more awake ones) will be trying hard to refrain from saying "I told you so" as these newly-awakened folk take to the streets, take up the reins of change, and eradicate Satan's playmates once and for all.
There's a lot more of them than there are of us, so their movement won't be lacking numbers.
Well, that's one possible outlook, (- and a less cynical viewpoint for dear fellow readers here!)
:p
I don't think this scenario is an altogether inconceivable outcome, ~ methinks it might very well happen yet :::: How hard do you have to shake people before they finally wake up? They are certainly being shaken at present, and with more shocks to come, by all accounts.
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Our role in all of this is to keep on plugging away, and doing and saying all in our power to counter the daily Murdochian effluent, and to gently educate those who are 'fast asleep at the back of class', - assisting them *to do as each of us once did* !!!
(ie) ::: **To wake from the slumbers of indoctrination, to shake off the state-proffered illusions, and begin to really see the world anew.**
Want an example of such a turnaround?
Well, once upon a time there was a bright (fairly average) American woman who was led to believe that her son was maybe doing the right thing in joining the army. So he went off to fight some supposed 'enemy', but very soon got killed in a phoney, utterly futile and immoral war.
His mom was devastated, - her son's death turned her whole life (and way of thinking ) around. Now she is one of the most impassioned (and awake, aware !) high-profile antiwar activists in the USA. She has now come to realise that our greatest enemies are the many liars, cheats, crooks, bigots and despots in power.
That mother's name is Cindy Sheehan. She writes here occasionally, -- when she's not doing 100 +1 other things to help bring sanity to a wretchedly duped America...
(And as ever, I send her my sincere love and respect.)
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-and 'Hi' to sister Siouxrose -I just saw your note as I posted this.
U-C-D x
Lets all simply stay active, in whichever way we are capable, and watch the folly crumble the once proud Amurrikan " dream"...(."Dream" as Geo. Carlin said, "because you gotta be asleep to believe it".)
Hey it was good havin' cheap gasoline and cheap automobiles and cheap everything and you didn't haveta work in the fields all day like my mom did in 1919...before we really figured how to let the Amurrikans be the world's chosen few, where even the unemployed (!) could "go to the poorhouse in a Ford", as Will Rogers famously said.
No, its a shame us gringos don't get to keep on keepin on bein' the world"s biggest crybabies, no one to blame but them damn "capitalists' always out to squeeze a few more dollars outa our hides...But you see the real problem is that we left the land, we quit any form of self-sustenance, we don't control our procurement of food or fuel or any guarantees at all now. We are are at the mercy of those corporations we love to hate. And the bureaucracy is just as confused and incompetent as we have allowed ourselves to become. Hey it looked like a good idea at the time...."civilization" that is.
You want a solution to the madness enveloping us all? Get out of the city and learn to farm without hydrocarbons. I did it for 20 years, its no big deal. You'll be carbon neutral, pay the bastards no taxes, be healthy and show the eventual survivors the way.
lobo72 - I feel the same way. The Hillary supporters that cared nothing about decency, fairness, rules or the truth have now become full time Obama-bashers and pseudo Nader supporters.
It's depressing to read the comments here anymore. And it's not that there are people who disapprove of Obama's actions. I do as well. But they offer nothing but negativity, hopelessness and a smarmy, cynical response to whatever is written. They offer nothing constructive, no solutions based in reality. Just teenage-like angst and petulence, all with a self-concscious look-at-me attitude that reveals their shallowness.
Pathetic, sad and useless.
KEM, are you one of Hillary's bitter supporters that will vote for McCain? Hillary's no angel and has told a few lies herself, you know.
- a certain president gets some discouragement about his lying ways here - http://www.rudemacedon.ca/greenisland/ex/gw19.html
How do Bush and his cronies lie? Every which way possible and endlessly - - check our Vincent Bugliosi's book, "The Prosecution Of George W. Bush For Murder"!
Nothing in the story to comment on. This article might be of interest to some dullard readers of the LA Times who get all their information from corporate media hash, but why republish it on Common Dreams? Only the random trolling provocateur or misdirected porn-hunter looking for a "wet dreams" site would find anything new in this story.
This article reminded me of something I wrote in 2003, after the war had started, but I was too timid to publish anywhere:
"The physicist Freeman Dyson once wrote, 'In war, how you fight is eventually more important than why'. The conduct of our military, its patience in battle and the lengths it goes to avoid civilian casualties, all measure up to one of our greatest foreign policy attributes. We can be proud of our soldiers. But there was another war, fought to convince people that the Iraq war was necessary. As the Downing Street memo proves, the Bush administration fought that war without honor. It began with secret meetings to spin the prelude to war so that it would appear regrettably inevitable. In a frontal assault White House lawyers argued that the 1991 Gulf War resolution was still active, so the president could order a new war without congressional approval. This assault was rebuffed, so a flanking action was begun with trumped-up evidence about Iraq's nuke program. In war, timing is everything, so they forced a hasty war resolution out of Congress just before an election. Congressmen who voted against it were called traitors and cowards and turned out of office, including one who'd lost three limbs in Vietnam. They battled European war doubts with 'old Europe' insults. When Canada and Mexico expressed doubts about the war, the response was 'doubts' about government purchases from Canada and Mexico. They moved 200,000 soldiers to the borders of Iraq, and THEN asked the U.N. Security Council whether it thought they should be deployed. Under those conditions, the council vote against war was a vote of independence. The response is named Bolton. This war's greatest casualty was our own intelligence community, which was placed under extreme duress to make the case for war, and then decapitated when that evidence proved faulty. But once we kicked the weapons inspectors out of Iraq, how intelligent did we expect our WMD intelligence to be? And if you have to pause an invasion to search for weapons of mass destruction long enough to let out the WEAPONS INSPECTORS, maybe the invasion itself is unnecessary! Americans seem surprised to find how radically our global image has changed with the Iraq War. But it is not that war that bothers the rest of the world. The Iraq War itself may still turn into a good thing. No, what bothers everyone, what won't let go, is the way that OTHER war was, and is still, being waged against democracy: with bullying, obfuscation, and faked intelligence. It is because our former allies realize that in this broader 'war' this administration has NO intention of fighting with honor, and that dishonors all of us.
Fanman, I too, stopped reading. This article is old, old, old, news. But it takes some people longer to see through BS and propaganda.
Lillulu, Lobo72, Opeluboy, and others -
Methinks Kem Patrick has gone over the edge! Too bad, so sad. Kem should take a few weeks off from posting comments and do some serious introspection. His support of Hillary over Obama was, shall we say, a bit overly vigorous given the difference between them on the issues.
You know, there were many Obama supporters here on CD, as well as Clinton supporters. Many of those Hillary supporters, like Kem Patrick, are venting their frustration of Clinton's loss on Obama's stand on the FISA bill. But do they think Hillary's stand on the FISA bill would have been different than Obama's had she been the nominee?
I was a Kucinich, then Edwards, then Obama supporter. The time to get a real progressive candidate elected is past. You fight the good fight in the primaries and get the best you can. Trying to get Kucinich the nomination in the Dem Party, is even less realistic than getting Ron Paul the nomination in the Rep Party.
Writing in Kucinich on the Ballot, or voting for Nader, is an exercise in futility without real fifty-state party organization and some kind of media presense. You would be better off writing in "George Carlin" on the ballot, as his candidacy is more viable.
When you are in a fight for your life, as we certainly are now, WINNING IS EVERYTHING! Let's get it done.
Ubrew12, I also wrote some similar musings back in the day when we saw Bush for the war-mongering psychopath, taking the country to war on a pack of lies, that he has since proved himself to be. I sent it to Air America, a start-up liberal/progressive radio network that I could only listen to on the internet. I also sent it to all my friends and family in my email address book. One day I'll find a copy of it and post it here on CD.
Best reply to the query that starts the title of this essay?
willybilly!!! "How Does Bush Lie" (apologies…I cannot use the President word)…Answer:..When he moves his lips!!
No apologies necessary.
Oh... and...
on the subject of just *why* GW Satan and other corrupt leaders lied to us, -(and are still lying to us now) here's a really good article from the UK Guardian newspaper (-maybe CD staff might feature it separately?) :::
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/26/usforeignpolicy.usnationalsecurity
And, -though it often hurts, - **keep smiling m'dears!** :)
If we let the b*st*rds grind us down into abject misery, we become inoperative and less effective. A wholly dire, cynical, and pessimistic refrain is less attractive than us 'singing songs' of hope and uplift, -that way we keep our *own* spirits up, and we get more done,
...AND... more people will then listen to us, and maybe we'll be more successful in all of the things we are trying to achieve? - like enabling humanity to *live in peace and harmony* on this planet, and not decimate Nature's other kingdoms with our infantile war-mongering and our rapacious greed for often quite superfluous material objects.
(Well, that's my take on things anyway!) ;)
xx
U-C-D
U-C-D, thanks for the link - good article.
"Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
I thought a strange look came across the face of the lying idiot king when he said the above, but that would be unusual because he lies incessantly. And his speech writers put in the phrase "uranium from Africa," for a very good reason. Could you imagine him, reading from the teleprompter, and mangling the word "Niger?"
Bush can get away with it because he's in the company of liars--the US Congress.
While I'll never deny someone's right to moments of "outrage", I'm with adroc and focusing on the opinion that this is a "groundbreaking piece of journalism."
Why? Because this is a wonderful articulation of The People's argument(Voice). It is the product of not just one individual, a keyboard and today's news, but culminates from Harriet Tubman crawling on her belly along the Eastern Seaboard to Freedom, the hand to hand battle for an "8 hour work day" and "the weekend" - this carved out space for human cognition now combines with Internet age technology to bring humanity to the point of being able to confront it's schizoid behavior.
Yes, behavior totally characterizing George W. Bush as his administration spoke of the false desires of Saddam Hussein to attack the U.S. in public, while contemplating methods to provoke such and attack behind closed doors, but behavior characterizing the United States since before the signing of the UN Charter in the 1940's - in public stating "peace and goodwill", while behind closed doors State Department memos said "control the Mideast oil fields...whatever the means".
It is arguments being processed (for the first time in the history of humanity!) such as this presented by Cy Bolton that can fill the abyss separating humanity from a greater dignity, pleasure and prosperity. However, I say not if it is argued with outrage, but if it is presented with composure and compassion and an unswerving diligence honed by outrage.
Why? Because as our Constitution recognizes in detailing impeachment - "all humans are fallible". And for "this argument" to prevail it has to be presented in the home, workplace and government agencies where the bluster of fascist boasting reside.
Cy Bolton presents a wonderful human creation. Even if it doesn't procure impeachment of Bush/Cheney, let's continue to process it, let's continue to unfold the greater glory of human existence and experience; with composure, compassion and diligence.
All this has been known for six years, by those of us who didn't count then and still don't. Big news: Bush has been lying from the beginning to get his war. Who'd have ever thunk it? Such endlessly recycled stuff as this wouldn't be necessary if we had a Congress, instead of a bunch of puffed up, coiffed white-haired crime abettors posing as checkers and balancers to this scofflaw regime.
We are forced to keep reading these exact same accounts ad infinitum, it would seem, because we lack ANY power to force this complicit Congress to ACT. Impeachment? Off the table, intones her royal majesty Pelosi, in 2006 just before the elections that delivered a majority of dimwit Dumbocrats who would prove to rubber stamp everything the Bush thugs demand to continue their illegal war as long as their black little hearts desire.
"Where is the outrage?" cries Cy Bolton. Uh, last I looked it's been nonstop on internet blogs for 6 fucking years. Also in the streets in the run-up to the inevitable war, made inevitable by lies the MSM swallowed ravenously, and it still hasn't had its fill. This makes about the thousandth article like this I've read, and there are countless ones I missed, that conclude "Where is the outrage?" If it's not in Congress or on network news, it doesn't officially exist. Common Dreamers and numerous other web bloggers don't constitute any voice in the matter. Neither do millions marching in the streets of DC, New York, dozens of other cities in the US and around the world. MILLIONS, with no voice in the matter.
Finally those millions just gave up, because neither the politicians nor the MSM was listening or giving a flying fuck what they thought or said. There's been and remains outrage aplenty, Cy, just not the kind that moves anything.
Also, Bolton notes at the end how Bush's persistent lies have got over 4,000 US servicemen killed in Iraq, but not a word about the 1.2 million (give or take a hundred thousand or so) Iraqi dead, and the 4.5 million Iraqi refugees. Not to even mention their destroyed country. So again we're left with the impression that those more than 1 million Iraqis would probably have died anyway, even if we weren't there murdering them by the trainload daily. Maybe it's too early to tell if they were really people, just as it's too early to tell if torture is legal or not. Maybe Bush's lies and Cheney's commitment to pure evil are GOOD things in long run. We won't know for at least a hundred years!
"Where is the outrage?"
There is no outrage about the lies as such since the souring of the American public about the war has been about its failure to produce victory and about the fact that it has gone badly. The American public's opposition to the war has never been based upon a principled response to its fundamental corruption and criminal nature.
Americans don't like to be losers, they like to be winners, and that is what it has been all about. If American forces had succeeded as the administration had intended, Bush and the neocons would have been national heroes even if hundreds of thousands had been killed in blatant unjust war of criminal aggression. Americans would be "winners," and everyone would be happy, flags would wave, and parades of "heroes" for the "homeland" would march down Main Street USA.
If the administration or the next can find a way to leave their crimes in Iraq and convince the American public it was somehow a "victory," no one is going to care. As Adolph Hitler cynically but correctly observed, "The victor will never be asked if he told the truth."
MikeBinSC, you're right. Thank you for your post. It's about time the Democrats stick together like Republicans do. Yes, I would have preferred a true progressive like Mr. Kucinich, or Edwards or Nader, but that's a lost cause. No wasted write-ins for me. I'll vote for Obama. It needs to be a landslide so the criminal GOP can't get away with a rigged election again.
Like a rug - with as much intelligence.
Very good, anwong. You nailed it there. Some of us have been massively outraged, largely because we remember the lies of the Vietnam war era and have seen them played out with transcendent cynicism by Bush-Cheney, largely to a clueless public, happy to know no history and aching for victory, even if it comes perched on a mountain of lies. We anti-war folks are the minority, as both Obama and Hillary proved in the primaries. They can't some across as truly anti-war and expect to be elected. Of course, there's no hypocrisy there either, because they decidedly are NOT anti-war.
Crush this corrupt system or prepare to be crushed by it.