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Elite US Army Academy Lures Kids With Mud and Duty
WEST POINT, New York - Climbing ropes and crawling in the mud under barbed wire, dozens of American high school kids at an unusual summer camp vied to see who could get most dirty as they tackled an Army obstacle course.
And as they ran between obstacles in the woods, the kids shouted Army chants. Asked by a cadet if they were motivated, they shouted back in unison: "Motivated, motivated, downright motivated. Ooh, aah, ooh, aah, I want to kill somebody."
Each summer, 800 high school kids hoping to become soldiers spend a week at West Point to see what life is like at the prestigious U.S. military academy for future army officers.
With the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan straining the U.S. military and public support low for the Iraq war, recruiting future officers might seem a tough sell. But officials say applications to the summer program are at a record high.
West Point says it recruits "scholars, leaders and athletes." Kids at the Summer Leadership Seminar, a week-long residential program held over two sessions, have top grades and are strong in sports and extra-curricular activities.
Alex Imbriale, a 17-year-old from North Carolina who is captain of his school's rifle team, attributed his interest in West Point to his father, who is in the army. But there were plenty of students on the program who are not "army brats."
Kathleen Engle, 16, from Fairfield, California, said she had looked into the Peace Corps and other options but decided on the military.
"I was in fifth grade when 9/11 happened and that's when I decided the best thing I could do for my country was this," she said, playing a video game called "America's Army."
"I guess it's going to be hard to kill someone, but if that's your job and that's what our commander tells us we need to do, I'm going to do that in order to protect my country."
IMMIGRANTS AND ADVENTURERS
Mario Vazquez, 17, from El Paso, Texas, hopes to be a neurosurgeon but first he says he has a duty to America.
"My Mom is actually the one that found out about it," he said of the West Point summer program. "My mother is from Mexico ... she said it's a good place to get discipline."
"I owe a lot to this country because of what it's given me, because of what it's given my family, but I also have fears because it's a lot of sacrifice," he said. "You put your country before yourself and you sacrifice your family and a lot of other privileges."
Austin Fullmer, 17, from Las Cruces, New Mexico, said he was attracted by the prospect of moving around the world and seeing new places, and although he would be nervous about deploying to a combat zone, "it's just another adventure."
"I didn't quite realize there were this many kids like me," he said, grinning as he sat in the doorway of Blackhawk helicopter parked in a field.
Graduates of the academy founded in 1802 include former President Dwight Eisenhower, Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, who led U.S. forces in the first Gulf War, and astronaut Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin.
During their week at the picturesque campus on the banks of the Hudson river in New York state, the high-school students are immersed in cadet life.
They are woken at 5 a.m for physical training, they march in formation under the command of current cadets, take academic workshops and spend a day in the field.
"We're able to pick the most competitive students," said Lt. Col. Dean Batchelder, who handles admissions. There were 3,674 applications for 800 places on the high-school program.
Those who attend are not guaranteed admission to the academy -- which offers a four-year college education in return for a commitment of five years active duty and three years as a reservist -- but they stand a good chance, he said.
"I'm not here to screen them," Batchelder added. "We're not trying to weed out the weak, we're trying to give them the information so they can make a better choice."
NATION AT WAR
Her jeans and pink shirt caked in mud, her face daubed with camouflage cream, 17-year-old Elise Fink put on a flak jacket, stuffed her blonde ponytail under a helmet, and climbed up into the gun turret of a Humvee to check out the machine gun.
"In Iraq you'll be carrying about 40 pounds more than that," Specialist Justin Fletcher, a 10th Mountain Division soldier who returned from Iraq late last year, told her.
The grand-daughter of two brigadier generals and daughter of a lieutenant colonel, Fink says her family was supportive of her interest in West Point or the Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC). Her friends in Wilton, Connecticut, less so.
"My town doesn't do military," Fink said. "My town is very anti-war right now, so to join the military means you're pro-war, and a lot of my friends are anti-war."
"When I said that I was planning on doing ROTC or coming to West Point, they said 'I don't want you to get killed.'"
Fink says support or disapproval of the war in Iraq is irrelevant to her military ambitions. "I feel it's my duty, and it's people's duty to serve their country in some way," she said. "This is the way I chose."
Lt. Col. Jeffrey Wilson, who runs the summer academic program, said applications for the Summer Leadership Seminar were at a record high this year.
"I'm not sure how the fact that we're a nation at war has influenced the motivation of any particular student to apply," he said. "I think that there is a strong sense of service in this generation."
YELLING AND HAZING
Life as a cadet at West Point is highly regimented, with every detail from how to fold your underwear to the position of personal items on your desk dictated by regulations.
Jordy Kronshag, a 17-year-old from Callumet, Michigan, whose skill at the pole vault made her the equal of much larger males on the obstacle course, said she enjoyed the teamwork and leadership training but was still unsure about applying to become a cadet.
"This is the fun part," she said, her clothes muddy from the low crawl under barbed wire. "But also a part I don't like is all the yelling and the hazing, that's going to be tough."
On a day set aside for academic workshops, students in one group staged a mock murder trial. Others built a light-seeking robot in an electrical engineering class.
A third group played "Double Philosophy Jeopardy," with pop culture categories showing how characters in "Star Wars" or "The Simpsons" illustrate stoicism or the philosophies of Friedrich Nietzsche.
At a panel discussion with 10 current cadets one evening, the students asked about free time, punishments for alcohol use, how much cadets work out, whether they have online courses, how cold winters are and how much sleep cadets get.
Cadet John Williams said he applied to West Point for the wrong reasons and didn't know much about it in advance.
"I know a lot of you are doing it for the wrong reasons," he told the students. "You want people to be proud of you, it's pretty prestigious, you don't want to let people down," he said. "That might not be a bad thing."
"I came for the wrong reasons, I've definitely stayed for the right reasons."
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© 2008 Reuters
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Show AllToo young to reason with, too old to drown. Looks like just the kind of gullible idiot they're looking for. And he's officer material! For enlisted grunts they must br dredging the swamp.
Pretty sick society that has to try and trick it's youth into wanting to fight for their country. If we had a legitimate enemy we wouldn't need these kinds of recruiting methods.
Hoa binh
"So put down your books and pick up a gun we're going to have a whole lot of fun" What are we fighting for? The people with the $$$$$$
This is our answer to summer sports programs for kids.
And I agree with since1492. If there were really a need for ground troops to defend our country, there would be no shortage of volunteers.
"Ooh, aah, ooh, aah, I want to kill somebody"? Coming from a high school kid?? At summer camp??? This is just about the sickest thing imagineable. Is this *really* the USA, or are we in fact becoming "Amerika"? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, in view of Fox News once again taking the lead in TV viewers.
And I also agree with since1942 that if we the country had a legitimate enemy none of this travesty would be necessary.
Army contracting is extremely lucrative, and it's a great way to keep money away from less important things like schools and health care. Training kids to 'capture the flag from the terrorists' keeps them obedient and fighting amongst themselves, what better way to control things. Besides, for some, a lucrative future awaits in DOD Inc.
Totally disgusting. Such is life under fascism.
By the looks of things we have a common enemy in Global Warming right now. It will destroy cities and crops and take land and life just like a hoard of 'THEM' would. It is on the march.
Where is the response? Where is the WAR against this clear and present danger?
The Pentagon knows that that the brains of these kids are not yet physiologically fully developed. They literally don't have a sense of their own mortality and they are (and always will) be fair game for military recruitment. Unless we show them a better way and that we care about them, their lives, and peace.
U.S. citizens are still DUMB enough to enlist for serving in these damn wars? Ok, go to them and be killed, and then carefully wonder about precisely who did the killing? Iraqis? Less likely than by U.S. and U.K. covert ops!
I made a post on an article of June 25th and for precisely what I'm referring to. Simply read the article that I linked in the post, and for people not wanting to read the whole post, skip down to where I mention the Brussels Tribunal index.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/25/9869/#comment-309275
A-LA 'SALVADOR OPTION EXPOSED' with respect to minimally the war on Iraq, and these covert US and UK ops don't only target Iraqis! They have also killed many U.S. troops, perhaps also U.K. troops. In this above post of mine I provide a link to an important, voire crucial, article, and anyone not wishing to read the whole post can just scroll down to the link for the article, and then down to where I mention a very important resource index at the 'Brussels Tribunal' website.
EVERYONE considering serving in these wars should make sure to read those resources and very, very carefully, and thoroughly; as much as thoroughly possible. These are very 'black', covert ops of really hellish, satanically insane, psychopathic, ... kind, and they are 'under the radar' alright; but also considerably exposed.
I suggest reading in the order that I made the references; the article at GR is much shorter than the BT index page, which provides many links, but also a compilation of copies of many enough articles and all within the same index page.
Bush, Cheney, ... weren't joking when they said the war on Iraq would be 'SHOCK AND AWE'; only we learn that it means much more than what they'd want us to know.
Enlist to serve this hellbent govt that will send you to the war zone and then see to killing you. Obviously not all troops are targeted, but many enough have been.
Does *anyone* in the US remember their history texts? At all?!
Does the phrase 'Hitler Youth' mean anything?
Anyone?
Hello?
Blood and Honor... Blood and Honor.
one more step closer to the 4th Reich.
It all sounds great, until the part where the youth go and Kill people for our country.
We need to stop with the sending our young lambs to do the killing, sheeple.
Let them do the ropes courses and the philosophy. Let them get their four years of college. Let them develop their careers and lives, and then - like the presidency - when they are 35 years old - they are old and wise enough to represent our Nation in the most intense situations.
Of course in a better world, we wouldnt need to be armed against our fellow humans. The whole thing is a sham.
Why wait until the camps? Go right into those maternity wards..git em as they come out. Instead of a slap on the ass, get a footprint on an enlistment contract. Achtung! EFFICIENCY! AMERIKA UBER ALLES!
I want to puke
ahhh, look at the little fascists...they're so cute when they hold mortars and guns....
neo nazi youth
willybilly
I think that's what Spartans did when babies were born, see how strong they were and send them into military trianing since early childhood.
The weak ones got killed right away.
ladybug June 27th, 2008 12:55 pm ...Nothing new under the sun, eh? The line twixt imagination and reality draws ever finer.
Remember folks, not counting all the "non-master racers" the Nazis killed, approximately 6,000,000 Germans lost their lives. For what? A phony scheme of jingoism in it's worse form ever for a 'thousand years of peace and prosperity."
When will we ever learn?
"I guess it's going to be hard to kill someone, but if that's your job and that's what our commander tells us we need to do, I'm going to do that in order to protect my country."
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Die well. Die all. But make damn sure you die.
~ S P A R T A N __ E T H I C S ~
This is the perfect solution for our troubling "veterans" problems.
__ Come home either with your shield, or
__ on it.
If we teach our kids this, at specialized militant pre-schools, and deny them contact with their mothers until they're 20-yrs old -- everything will work out great.
Namaste
Good morning, Campers!
I'm your Brother Bushie,
And I welcome you to Uncle Sammy's Holiday Camp!
The camp with a difference, never mind the weather,
When you come to Uncle Sammy's, the holiday's forever!
Welcome!
Get your Uncle Sammy's T-shirts, and your stickers,
And your Muslim Korans to smash!
Don't rush, keep steady,
Have your money ready!
Buy your way to heaven,
That comes to a dollar seven.
Bless your heart! (ka-ching!)
Waterboards and genital electrodes,
Keep in line, I've got a huge supply!
Drown your Islamofacist Detainee,
You can really make them talk!
Uncle Sammy thumbscrews and bamboo sticks,
Build a human pyramid!
You lucky people!
The camp with a difference, never mind the weather,
When you come to Uncle Sammy's, the holiday's forever!
the picture of that kid reminds me of the pictures of the Palistinian kids wearing suicide vests and holding AK's
I guess you are not all that different after all.
Get use to it. It's going to get a lot worse.
I saw a kid driving an old clunker yesterday. He had a right wing Christian bumper sticker, a yellow ribbon sticker, and one that may have come from the recruiting station he was leaving.
I won't insult anyone by drawing any conclusions, but they are surely obvious.
These children do the killings so that
the corporations can make the killings.
Is this what is called - Christianity?
This story and the picture just breaks my heart. Another "child soldier" - which I believe is contrary to international law? Do the parents of this child support this?
What kind of sickness has taken over in our society.
FINALLY..A GOOD POPULATION CONTROL PROGRAM..WEED EM OUT..LET EM DIE..BEFORE THEY ARE KNOCKING ON DOORS HERE IN DER HOMLAND...LET EM DIE..LET ME DIE..LET EM DIE...
Peaceman and Ruthru - two interesting posts, the blind following of the leaders, no matter that they slaughter innocents (as with the Nazis), or that they lose all powers of independent choice, and go to die in a foreign land.
Of course, the important question is, who are they doing this for?
We know the answer, not to defend their country, or for some higher moral crusade, but to make money for the ruling elite, and to ensure a life of luxury for people who should be pegged out in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan as bait for whoever cares to take it.
And I used to think how it's bad that the military designs special, war-content 'video games' for kids. But now the the virtual is real--taking more than their minds! Summer camp?! Literally training our children for war.
And, BTW, what does Nietzsce have to do with war?:
"A third group played "Double Philosophy Jeopardy," with pop culture categories showing how characters in "Star Wars" or "The Simpsons" illustrate stoicism or the philosophies of Friedrich Nietzsche."
Oh, wait, didn't Hitler use his philosophy too? Anyone remember??
"I guess it's going to be hard to kill someone, but if that's your job and that's what our commander tells us we need to do, I'm going to do that in order to protect my country."
Hard, cruel, heartbreaking words, coming from a 16-year old person. She cites 9/11 as her inspiration to become a soldier. Does anyone realize that 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB, design to raise fury against Arabs and persuade young U.S. citizens to sign up to kill and innocent people in the Middle East.
If you are horrified at what happened at 9/11, I think your first move would be to SAVE lives, not take them. That means, bringing the TROOPS home NOW, attending to our desperate domestic crisis (or crises), STOP spending money on endless war, and save the environment. And you can accomplish all of this, and more, by impeaching Bush & Cheney, and making sure only true, honest progressives are placed anywhere in our government. That's only the first step, of course. We have to take responibility for all this. These could be our children! Do we want to stand by and watch them die, lose their limbs, their minds, their very souls? I hope you agree.
Impeachment is just not a positive vibe for a UNIFIED front. Negativity breeds negativity.
There's not enough Hopeful Change in impeachment, history will be this crew's impeachment: Lonely and forgotten, hated and infamous for their crimes.
Support the Department of Peace, not the Department of War. (Impeachment validates a code of war).
AndyUK,
I agree with you. First step is to expose militarism for what it really is: violent anti-social behavior sanctioned by the ruling class manipulates the thinking for common people who are willing to be killed and maimed for the same ones who manage to stay out of harm's way. It's been going on for thousands of years and not likely to change.
Is it illegal to shoot military service recruiters?
My god. This is just as scary as that Jesus Camp . . . perhaps even more so because these people are carrying guns.
"Mass Murder: It's OK When Government Does It!"
Seventhson,
The best sign I ever saw at an anti-war rally was:
"Kill one person, it's murder, kill thousands and it's foreign policy."
As Iron Maiden said in "Two Minutes To Midnight"...
"We oil the jaws of the war machine
and feed it with our babies."
Jesus wept!
Nazi Germany had the Hitler Jugend, targeting the young and training them to be the next generation's war-loving soldiers. The same situation exists in other totalitarian countries; could someone please explain to me what this says about the good old US with it's big war-industry and inflated sense of self-importance like so many other 'master-races' had before?
The more I see of this, the more convinced I'm becoming that one day the USA will invade Russia. That's the place when and where the world of myths, slogans and lies that this misguided youth have been brought up to believe in will be smashed to pieces.
It's 4 a.m.. Do you know where your kid is?
These kids "want to kill somebody?" Maybe it won't be a terrorist but a bunch of people in a McDonalds.
There was a funeral this week, in a small town in Southern England, for a young man killed in Afghanistan. We heard some of the words said by his father in the church - apparently he was a brave young man, gentle and kind, who died defending his country.
I think he was about 20, which means that he joined the army knowing full well that he would be fighting in the Middle East. In these days of political correctness, nobody has the guts to tell his father that his son was not gentle and kind, but fully prepared to kill people he did not know, and who had done nothing to threaten him, and that he was not defending his country.
So many people I talk to, still link 9/11 to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our media is still brainwashing people, telling us that the war on terror must go on, as if you can fight idealism with bombs and bullets.
It is chilling, that young people can be so ready to kill people, just because the media and government encourage them to enlist. I would also blame the parents, for not giving enough good advice, and the education system for being culpable in allowing cadet forces to be overly influential.
We are turning into a militaristic society, grooming children at an early age with computer games and films. By the time they have reached their late teens, the damage has been done, and a very large minority (how many millions?), will welcome the chance to take part in a great new adventure.
I've said this before in other posts, but I sincerely believe that although we have made huge technological advances, we have regressed into the middle ages with our social skills and aggressive behaviour.
DISGUSTING!
Are we going to let this happen to our children? Why are we making them fodder for the endless cannons of war? Parents need to be educated.
No jobs, let's just put the kids in the armed services and that will take care of everything. Just remember you are training killing machines and when these machines come home there is no decompression. Your families will feel the pain.
Who and what are we defending? Who are we making rich at the expense of our children?
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Here are the words of Major General Smedley Butler:
Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye", was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.
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"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."[21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
Next recruitment scheme is booze and whores and a little date rape drug. You wake up in Iraq in the green zone. This will only upset a few of us radical commie liberal bastards on this site and a few Cindy Shehans.
The real Americans won't mind - they are glad they don't have habeas corpus. See how the sheep get sheared then slaughtered.
800 Darwin Award semi-finalists.
Talk about brainwashing. This is largely the fault of a society that does not educate their children to think for themselves. To teach children to blindly follow leaders who make them feel obligated to do so for their country is so perverse that it is difficult to comprehend by any reasonable person. The history lessons we get in school are a sham. All of our horrible deeds are hidden under a blanket of red, white and blue, and sanitized to present a noble cause. Howard Zinn should be Secretary of Education.
Families on the edge due to dicey economics, plus poor education and parenting, creates soul-less killers. It's the young who are the victims, targeted by lying recuiters.
Duty indeed. How about this statement, attributed to Kate Richards O'Hare, an American socialist who was sentenced to five years in prison for allegedly saying it:
"The women of the United States [are] nothing more than brood sows to raise children to get into the Army and [be] made into fertilizer."
She served 13 months before President Woodrow Wilson commuted her sentence. Quote found in "America's Great War: World War I and the American Experience" by Robert H. Zieger.
This is the ultimate child abuse. I'm not mad at that kid who said such stupid things like"ooh ah I wanna kill..". Where are the parents, where are the adult guardians? I tell you where they are, they are inculcating children into making killing "fun time". OK, America if that's what you want for your kids, may your shopping malls, schools, and eateries become targets for children who engage in mass murder. I don't want to hear any more bicthing and moaning about another mass murder since you obviously have no problem with training your kids to be killaz. America you reap what you have sewn.