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An Urgency of Joy
The culture of war goes quietly about its business. Last week, Congress fed it another $162 billion, perhaps with some nostalgia: This was the final war-funding request of the Bush administration, the lame-duck, despised status of which making absolutely no difference in the dispatch with which the money was delivered.
Yes, there was some protest -- 155 nay votes on the funding amendment, to 268 yea -- and we can take a little wan heart in this trend, but the protest strikes me as largely symbolic. I fear that while the anti-war-funding contingent in Congress may want to be on record as morally correct, it understands that the war is inevitable and cannot be opposed in some structural and career-endangering way.
This was evinced a few weeks ago by the cryptic words of House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.), who, as reported on CQ.com, said that he "opposes giving any more funding for the war but felt he had a professional obligation to produce a bill that can pass."
Moral stands of this sort, which are not seriously meant to change or even challenge the status quo, are a dime a dozen, and do not serve the huge constituency of Americans who grasp the danger we're in and want far more than a withdrawal from Iraq -- who want a withdrawal of the culture of violence from every aspect of American life, especially from its unholy triumvirate: the economy, the government and popular culture.
The important message I have for this constituency, which I took away with renewed clarity and fervor from the conference I attended last weekend -- "Building a Culture of Peace in the Heartland" -- is that knowing what we're against is not enough, and at best will generate the occasional symbolic "nay" vote on some inevitable piece of war legislation.
This was the Midwest regional gathering of an organization called the Peace Alliance, which was established four years ago to promote and lobby for what is currently known as HR 808, the House legislation that would establish a Cabinet-level Department of Peace and Nonviolence; it was first introduced by Dennis Kucinich in 2001 and currently has about 60 co-sponsors.
I whole-heartedly support this legislation, which among much else would establish a peace academy and coordinate and fund the best of the violence-prevention and restorative-justice/healing programs that are proliferating around the country, because it would bring a level of peace consciousness to our government that is currently absent. The legislation, I believe, would also help these disparate groups understand that each is part of a larger whole -- a dawning global culture of peace.
Peace Alliance co-founder Marianne Williamson, who addressed the conference, illustrated the difference between being "against" (anti-war) and "for" (pro-peace) by talking about the two most significant documents of the nation's founding. "The Declaration of Independence," she noted, "states, 'we are not that' -- a monarchy, where power is concentrated in the hands of a few. The Constitution states, 'We are this.' You need both," she said. "One is not enough."
Furthermore, unlike the Declaration of Independence, which denotes a single historic stance, the Constitution has been evolving for 200 years, adjusting to the contours of current events but more importantly expanding its protective reach as the nation has grown in awareness.
A culture of peace may one day simply be called a culture of common sense, but right now it's a radical leap in consciousness beyond the fear that continually fuels the culture of war and violence -- the culture of us vs. them -- which has exacted from the human race, over the last seven millennia or so, an ever-increasing share of its material and spiritual treasure and has set us on what Williamson called a "line of probability" that will culminate one day in environmental or nuclear catastrophe.
"It is the 11th hour, but it's not 11:59 quite yet," Williamson said. "There is still time."
Such was the urgency of this conference -- an urgency, you might say, of joy and creativity. This is "deep democracy," she said. "Deep humanitarianism. Every time you teach a child to read you are a peace activist. The opposite of war is creation."
HR 808, and the subsequent numbers by which it will be known as it is reintroduced in congressional session after congressional session for years if not decades to come, is a small but crucial component of this paradigm shift in human consciousness.
I'm positive that one day we'll figure it out: Every dollar spent on human betterment and nonviolent conflict resolution yields returns that are almost incalculable. Every billion poured into the chasm of war is lost forever.




31 Comments so far
Show AllIts a lot harder for corporations to make boatloads of profit on peace than it is for them to make boatloads of profit on war.
Remember, boatloads of profit are their reason for existence.
I'm not too sure that profits cannot be made on peace. We (the world) have not tried it.
The commentators are all commenting on the division and confusion of the Demos, some other time they may comment on the division and the confusion of the Republicans, the religious right, the stockmarket analysts, take your pick, on any given evening news show. What I haven't seen is anyone bringing it all together. The entire world is dividing itself in new ways, and confusion abounds in everything from politics, to economics and climate.
Let's face it folks, we are not in the static, slow changing world, we thought we lived in. We are facing great, mammoth changes, and anything goes. So choose your team and give it your best. Peace? Equality? Justice? Joy on Earth? Give it your best shot, what have we got to lose? (But fear itself, to paraphrase an inspired quote)
Pissant...
AGREE whole-heartedly - "Victum of Capitalism" will surely be the Epitaph on Humanity's Headstone!
A global "participitory" Socialism is our only hope left of escaping the 21st century.
"The opposite of war is creation..." Beautiful!
Good article Robert Koehler. But, I am not satisfied with a peace movement. One step forward and two steps backward each year. What does the loss of the rule of law mean to you? Think about this. It means that every legitimate democratic effort can be rendered "quaint". As it has for this administrations two terms. People, peace movements, law and justice have been thrown out the window from a 100 story building. Corporations now rule our world. Who do they answer to? Try voicing your opinion to Boeing, Monsanto, Exxon-Mobile or Newscorp. See what they care.
I also agree that there can be no peace without economic justice. But, socialism is not in our vocabulary, and neither is real peace. I am a social democrat who believes in abolishing our military completely. But, what can we do peacefully to bring an end to the Addingtons, Yoos, Gonzoles, Cheneys, Bushes, Wolfowitzs, Rices, Rumsfelds, Kristols, Pearles, Krauthammers, et al, Now! For justice to have any meaning, it must be carried out expeditiously. Do we just wait till these idiots die before we can have any real hope? Is this justice, or peace? Someone is holding a gun to your child's head, Mr. Koelher. You have the choice to dispatch this individual at that moment, splattering their evil brains against the wall. Do you wait for a U.S. Supreme Court decision, a consensus, or an election, to know what to do? Sadly, in this day and age, I would consider the obvious choice as still a peaceful solution. The criminals presently in power have that gun to your child's head. I am not speaking figuratively. We all have become lesser people because of our complicity in this war mentality. Just watching it desensitizes, and dehumanizes us in such a horrible, horrible way. I see no painless, nonviolent way out of this mess. Not while Americans still have a penny to be stolen and squandered on the Neocon-Israeli Military Industrial Complex.
How many thousands of wars have been fought since the beginning of history? It would seem that the human race is not programmed for peace, but to grab what the other guy has, and war is the consequence.
We have had many peace advocates in numerous countries that have spent lives trying to make a difference, but it always seems to revert to the same pattern, cook up some excuse to go after someone.
I believe people have to try to work toward peace in the world, but it is like the weeds and insects, they will be here after we are gone, and so will war. Nevertheless, we should do what we can to help.
So many comments seem to typically contain the hidden assumption that it takes some external force, person, situation, to change things, usually something despairingly powerless in the current state of affairs. I hear the despair.
I have become convinced that I have the power to transform the world into one that is free of domination. I believe that all it takes to transform the world is for me to transform myself into a more mature, responsible, and loving person. That's all I have to do, nothing more than that, nothing less than that, and nothing is more important than that transformation. When I change my inner world, my external behavior shifts to match, and I become a creative source of systemic change.
Moreover, if I can do it, with my history of dysfunction and wounding, certainly you can do it. The ripple effect from this transformation is immeasurable, and it has the power to stimulate the largest institutions of repressive domination to implode. This turns conventional thought on its head, and would appear to be insane to most people, a kind of megalomania, which it is not, it is the exact opposite of megalomania. It is acknowledging our critical participation in energetic systems far larger than ourselves.
I do not accept that I am the victim of the military-media-corporate-government conspiracy. I am 100% responsible for it, another apparently "insane" idea, and yet what I mean is that I am 100% able to respond to it. I have an answer. I have more than one answer. Having a better idea, such as the Department of Peace, is far more effective for producing social transformation than recrimination and revolt. It attracts support. There is no struggle involved. Very soon the world will be ready to hear hundreds of thousands of people who have transformed themselves internally to be the change, and not demand the change from some external source.
The wave of transformation is happening all around us if we are open to perceiving it, and it is time to paddle like hell to match speeds with the wave so that when it breaks we are moving forward and not left behind. Those who ascribe to the "Left Behind" series of fictions, those who cling to blaming others and feeling superior, who refuse to accept that we are all in this together, are in for a big surprise.
Davoid,
I agree with you. But the prisons they are building like crazy are for whom? The bullets and bombs? Where are all the peaceable native Americans? The truth is not necessarily optimism and hope.
I was just reading this week's New Yorker about cave paintings from before history. Apparently, there were no paintings depicting war violence. Humans in prehistoric Europe lived in small bands and had plenty of room to roam. I assume, that like the American Indians until 300 years ago, they simply worked out differences with other tribes by moving or compromising.
We know that there are tribes even today who manage to live without war. Occasional battles between neighbors are not lethal to entire tribes.
Of course, Karl Marx and others pointed out years ago that class society leads to conflict and warfare. But I disagree with both Kernel, who thinks that most people are war-like, and Davoid, who thinks that his being a peaceful person will change the world.
I think that most people are peace-loving and kind. We evolved in small bands and had to cooperate to survive. This is why they must LIE to get us into war.
But, there are some people who are lacking the human ability to feel empathy for others. If they are born poor they may end up in prison. But, if born with more advantages, or if run through the military system and recognized, they can end up with wealth and/or power by serving the interests of the ruling class.
Of course we must change the system. It is set up to reward sociopaths. It isn't enough to get rid of individuals, they will be replaced, much as the rest of us are when we quit or are fired from our jobs. There are slots in this vicious capitalist machine for sociopaths, and they will be rewarded.
We need to set up society so that we live sustainably and every human has enough to live a decent life, but there is no wealth accumulation able to be obtained by murder or stealing. No tribes allow some to starve while others feast. We need to look upon all lifeforms on our beautiful planet as in our tribe.
GREENERTHANTHOU
eloquently said...........................
COYOTITA raised the important point that profits CAN be made from peace... imagine if all the energy going into the various and sundry war far design "toys" instead led to new courses and systems that would expedite GREEN technology--solar, wind mills, electric cars, whatever it takes--to get off the OIL? Imagine if the military machine in all its might which is IMPOTENT against HER forces of MOTHER NATURE instead began to use their facilities and train people in ways to work WITH nature, to SUSTAIN life...
DAVOID: There is some truth to your posting, but one central problem the CONSCIOUSNESS movement made and still makes is this idea that it's ALL an inside job. It takes 2 to tango... half the work is the inside job, the other half is the society WE are responsible for building. MY quality life and higher consciousness becomes less satisfying if all around me are those still programmed to follow us versus them, war-prone, herarchical enculturation (a process that religion plays a chief role in furthering). This should help answer KERNEL's point. Beginning of time? Do we know it if our records go back a paltry several thousand years? HUMAN bone remains go back 40X that... there's a lot we cannot account for, a lot buried shall we say "under the sands of time."
When the church/state want to form armies, they MUST make enemies and foment fear... fear of the "outsider" is the favored methodology and it's "worked well" over the centuries to get us to the abyss of mistaken understanding we now face.
MANY souls HAVE awakened... and there's little question a spiritual slack tide is made by those who insist on the old authoritarian religions, unwilling to LOOK honestly at their record. YES there have been amazing souls who came OUT of the church, but the problem is, they are NOT good representatives of what said church(es) is teaching now or ever. They were the enlightened (from birth) souls who used the soil they were planted in to grow... they were powerful organisms that came to show ALL of us our potentials, as Christ said it was not HIS work, but the work of "the father" that he did. I'm 99% sure that was NOT the actual verbiage offered, but he had to work with the thought processes held by people in her era... and they were NOT metaphysically astute enough to recognize a spiritual Creative principle beyond what they could witness in the form of HUMAN power.
In any case, interesting discussion. Now I need to listen to the wind and bike before sun down and the next storm blows in. Nature has been VERY active lately... on all fronts.
Strange Freudian slip... referring to Christ I said in "her" era... hmm... some sage mentioned to me SOPHIA from Hebrew scripture is the Holy spirit and it's seen as a FEMININE energy.
An effective Department of Peace will be built upon an understanding of both the human desire to dominate and horde and the countervaililng human capacity for caring and empathy. It will also pull every cover related to power. Power will be deconstructed in such a way that it loses it's capacity to captivate and enthrall. Personal power or group power: it is all the same. In order to work, it requires collusion among the dominators and "leaders" and the dominated and "led" in the belief that we need these power hierarchies in order to survive. In fact it is the power hierarchies that have led to the war and dis-ease of our world.
The greatest problem with all these good ideas is the adoration of all things military (and violent) that is American culture.
There are, for some reason or other, people who are the exact opposite of pacifists. They love war itself, and think that war is ipso facto a good thing that we ought to have more of. I call them "belligerists." (I think George Patton was a good example.) For such people, compromise is defeat, and therefore unacceptable - and conversion is worse. I think one of the great paradoxes of pacifism is the question of what can be done about such folks --
I believe there are good people everywhere that genuinely desire to live in a peaceful world. However, it seems that there is usually some person or group that takes control of a country, tribe, culture, religion, etc., that feels war is the answer to their own wishes. Unfortunately, they are successful most of the time in scaring, tricking, or forcing the people under their control to even fight their wars for them.
A perfect example of this is the 9-11 event, which could have been used as a means to work together with other nations to prevent more violence, as the world was with us then. As we all know, Bush-Cheny and their cabal of warmongers were looking for an excuse to move on Iraq and the world has suffered for their actions for several years. Consequently, our chance to make something good come from 9-11 was squandered and it may take decades to repair the damage to world co-operation as trust has evaporated and there is an attitude of be prepared to get the other guy first.
How many good family men and women have lost their lives or had their families ruined due to a false patriotism based on misinformation? Will that situation ever change, as the leaders decide the course taken, no matter whether it is necessary or only to benefit the ones in power?
Consider our National Anthem--We sing of bombs bursting in air, not America the beautiful.
Thank you Davoid and others. It is possible to face the reality of our situation and be positive about the possiblities for fundamental change (and I don't mean Obama-style change)at the same time.
I love reading threads like this one.
It's so inspirational to see consensus building of great important and positive issues, that have so long awaited humankind's metamorphosing into a more conscious incarnation.
The real harmonic convergence is singing in the wings, louder each day, for those with ears to hear it.
Namaste
« We must be the change we wish to see in the world » — Gandhi
« There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed » — Gandhi
« We adopt the means of nonviolence because our end is a community at peace with itself » — ML King
Greener
You are totally incorrect. They did not just work out their differences. They fought each other to death. Sometimes to the point of the total destruction of one tribe. Your idea of the past does not fit with reality. You need to study these questions seriously before you produce analysis. There were some peaceful tribes surely. But, loss of 25% of the population of a tribe to war in a year is a common occurance. This is the past that we are trying to get away from.
The movement to create a Department of Peace is the outer activism of people who have done, or are doing, the work of the inner activism. The legislation is simply a landmark, a milestone, in a much broader goal, to create the Beloved Community of which MLK Jr. spoke. It is the visible portion of a deep revolution in personal responsibility. Remember, "the revolution will not be televised?" This is it, and it's not based on wishful thinking. Gun ownership is declining (Violence Policy Center). The pro-war belligerents will be grasping their puzzled bewilderment as the peace culture springs up seemingly from nowhere, and yet it has been gaining speed steadily for, well, a very long time. Two books I recommend are "The Cultural Creatives" and "Blessed Unrest."
Yes we should strive for peace but realistically war will never go away. It is the ultimate sport. Its football on steroids. The competative spirt that drives mankind to invent a wheel, vaccines and icbm's also drives the desire for war. We need to change the rules of engagement. We need to set apart some large desolate area on this planet were we can ship off all those who wish to compete in this sport so they can fight and leave the rest of us alone and at peace. We do however need a department of peace. It would bring balance into the equation.
~ TIMEBITER ~
You mentioned that "we should strive for peace but realistically war will never go away".
I believe we can file your comment under "RESIGNATION" and FUTILITY, which I do not share with you.
It is _n o t_ that we SHOULD, it is that we _ m u s t_ REVERE and take life seriously, for any other mindset is dooming us to perpetual suffering and war.
It is not about just the country's "official" opinion of violence, but more crucially, each individual's CHOICES about violence -- that ultimately create the world around us, one thought at a time.
____ C H O O S E __ B E T T E R ____
__________ T H O U G H T S ___________
Namaste
" I am a social democrat who believes in abolishing our military completely."
What do you believe would happen if you got your way? This is not a challange question...I don't agree with you, but I certainly respect your opinion, I just don't understand what you see as happening if you could accomplish it?
"twistoflex June 26th, 2008 11:38 pm
Greener
You are totally incorrect. They did not just work out their differences. They fought each other to death. Sometimes to the point of the total destruction of one tribe."
Absolutely correct. If you want to know about real cruelty, you should look at some of the histories of the Indian tribes. At the same time they took care of widows and orphans within the tribe and many would adopt a captive slave from another tribe into their own without prejudice. Very military organizations, but with a real funtioning social structure within those parameters.
smendler June 26th, 2008 8:19 pm
What about all the folks between the two extremes?
Thomas More.
With all due respect, humans have the capability to evolve intellectually. That challenge is confronting us now, as the very viability of our species is in question. We can stay where we are, risking it all, or we can move forward, using our intellect. Every penny spent on defense is a waste of material and human capital. After a lifetime of studying many of these issues, I believe that capitalism is a failure and can never, even in its best form, help humanity towards a sustainable future. There are very, very good people in every country in this world. Likewise, there are supreme fuckups in every country. While many people continue to embrace gunboat diplomacy, the essential urgencies remain buried under our overarching fear and hate of the unfamiliar. People are people. We basically want the very same things. It is an extremely wimpy intellect that cannot see the way out of this. Consolidated power of any sort, must be demolished. The inability to grasp the urgency of global solidarity is a visible manifestation of the current paucity of the human spirit, a testament to our higher education, and a verification of the insidious nature of those presently in power. At some point in time, essential to our survival as a species, we must simply grow up. I won't accomplish anything. It must be understood by a majority of the world's population. Sometimes, you have to tune out all of the chatter for a week or two, and think. There is a way out. Unfortunately, time is also running out. Think hard about who will benefit from the continued and rapid consolidation and concentration of economic, political and military power. True justice not only depends upon, but is predicated on, economic justice. The latest supreme court ruling on the Exxon Valdez disaster is a prime example. 20 years later, after 20% of the potential recipients of this award have already died, and they cut the damages by 90%. Justice? We are giving corporations more and more, while destroying the spirit and intent of any sane understanding of human justice. And this from the highest court in the land. Can you see how far we have to go? Thomas More, I also appreciate your civility in the way you asked your question. It made it much easier to respond to.
worried1 June 27th, 2008 6:19 pm
"Likewise, there are supreme fuckups in every country."
You've met our President then!
I have no idea where the Supreme Court came up with this trash ruling on the Exxon Valdez, but don't mistake me, Corporations are out of control. I have no illusions about that. Our CEO's are so much smarter that we need to pay them hundreds of times as much as guys doing the same work in companies in other countries. Right!
I believe Capitalism within the framework of our Republic never fails, so we probably won't converge there, but its not within that framework now. It must be restored or replaced. I favor restoring it because I've never seen anything better. You favor replacing it. One of us must be right.
"Every penny spent on defense is a waste of material and human capital."
Some of our best advances in science and medecine have come from this area. HOWEVER! Its out of control. We could have the same military with a third the cost if you eliminate the stuff being stolen and the outsourcing and privitizing. Think what you could do with that money. You could educate every kid that could learn in America thru 4 years of college and have change to provide base medical care to our poorest uninsured. You should hear what the Marines in Iraq think of Blackwater Waddies and their like. Private mercenaries are a disgrace and I trust will be stopped after the election.
I'm not arguing for....I was just curious to know what you thought about doing away with the military. I'm absolutely sure that within two years of disarming, disbanding our military we'd be economically destitute and more than likely saluting our new Masters.
"humans have the capability to evolve intellectually. That challenge is confronting us now, as the very viability of our species is in question. We can stay where we are, risking it all, or we can move forward, using our intellect."
Point agreed. The real question is how do you get all us roundheads to agree on a course? I agree with many posting here and disagree with many others, but it can also be different people at different times that I agree or disagree with.
My biggest problem is I'm not as smart as some on here and I can't always make my point clearly and cleanly.
I appreciate your taking the time to expand your thoughts for me.
Pax
Thomas More,
The best advances in science and medicine can be achieved by direct and dedicated research and funding in these areas. We do not have to rely on the spinoff theory of reaching our stated social goals. It would be much more efficient and economical to do it directly.
I believe that intellect is a tool, just like the hammer and nails that I use daily. You can use that hammer to build things, or you can use it to bash in someone's head you didn't like. Some use their intellect to control others; in personal relationships, in religion, in politics, in the law, in the economy. I hate all religion. But, I agree with a lot of what I've seen of the bible's message. Think about what it says. About loving your brother, about money, about worshiping idols. There's some good stuff there. Does any of it relate to how we live our lives in the U.S.? Almost none of it.
You should agree and disagree with different people on different issues. The only way to gain a mature critical mind is to engage in dialog and think for yourself, and remain humble enough to learn. Just because someone is smart, doesn't mean they're moral, or fair, or honest. Challenge everyone.
The military is a rather straight forward issue for me. I am comfortable in stating flat out that it needs to be stricken from our collective consciousness for us to move forward in our human evolution. I do not doubt this one bit. But, it has infected every single aspect of our lives. It has desensitized us to human suffering, it has bankrupted our country, and it has taken millions of our most vulnerable, (intellectually and economically) young people and taught them the wrong lessons. The mental health aspects alone of our returning troops is a national tragedy. Watch the Winter Soldier hearings. Think of having all these men and women spreading peace and cooperation around the world while having a great time. Our supposed enemies do not hate our freedoms, they hate our occupation of their countries and our imposing our ideas of democracy and free markets on them, and using land mines and bombs on innocent people. A million Iraqis, no different than you and I right here, killed and their families and homes and way of life destroyed. For what? For what? Peace and brotherhood and economic and social justice are not signs of the weak. These are the most powerful, most right ways of looking at our fellow world citizens. So long as we continue to be cowed by those strong guys in uniform who say that we're naive, unrealistic, and intellectually weak for these propositions, than nothing will change. There must be change. And WE must have a choice in the matter. Sorry, but we're already saluting our new Masters. They're taking all of our money, subverting the rule of law, and destroying our hope for any sensible future. This is happening as we speak, so to speak. Without the rule of law, we are now living in a fascist state. At this moment, under GWB. We have chosen to become economically dependent on the military. We can just as easily decide to place our production into becoming energy independent. The economy will not collapse. Have more faith in American ingenuity. We can, with the commitment, produce many useful things that don't kill and maim humans. We can use all of these capable young people currently serving our war machine, to peacefully pave the way for the globalization of our common goodwill, in tackling the urgent issues of energy, water and food to be used by all people, instead of stealing their resources under the guise of freedom and democracy.
Unfortunately, capitalism has failed. The capitalists haven't failed, but the entire theory is a failed theory. Why would we as thinking individuals, argue for a failed system on the argument that nothing else has worked? No logic there, but that is one of the arguments. We don't like to believe that there are MASTERS who we can't see, but they're there. They don't just control the economy, they control what we see and hear and eventually come to believe. Hard to believe? Just look what the Bush administration has done to the American people. The real incentive for people is to have meaningful work. That is the basis for our happiness. Not financial incentives. All psychological studies prove that happiness is not dependent on more money than we need to be comfortable. This idea of financial incentive is surely wrong. Positively wrong. But, we must remember that each one of us is a subject of the grandest psychological experiment ever performed on humankind. That is the power of today's capitalism. The messages are everywhere, all of the time. The evidence is overwhelming. What were your parents incentive for raising you well? Monetary? Now, keep expanding this idea. There is a way to provide well for ourselves, while at the same time having a deep commitment to human and environmental justice. The current state of our world is the greatest market failure possible. What happened? That's easy. We were all looking out for only our own best interests, in the short term. Quarterly. Yes, there surely is a better way. Socialism is not a bad word. It is also not a political system, it is an economic system. Have we tried it? Can we really say it has failed? What does the rapid transfer of wealth from our citizens to the top 1/10th of one percent of people in this country mean to you? That capitalism is working?
Thomas, while we may disagree still on many issues, I appreciate a civil dialog and sharing with you. Thanks.
Thomas, while we may disagree still on many issues, I appreciate a civil dialog and sharing with you. Thanks.
Allow me to return the compliment.
Socialism is not a bad word and in limited circumstances its worked. I've never seen it work in any of the countries where I've been. Its always degenerated into tin pot dictators. But I'd never say never about almost anything.
The military isn't to blame for its misuse by our little tin pot's. Its not for everyone, but it can be a Godsend to many kids. I just sent an e-mail to a kid thats on vacation with his daughter. He could hardly read when he joined the Corp, his drill sregant taught him to read and had his platoon sergant continue it when he finished basic. He now is employed by a Swedish company doing something with computers, makes 225,000 a year.
My Dad instilled in me an abiding value for justice and human life. I think it was a result of his military service.
I'm trying to say that many people misunderstand military service and what its for. Its supposed to protect us. Its not supposed to be used as it has been. And that the military does stand between us and the bad in the world. It allows us, I hope to fix what these extremists have screwed up.
We certainly agree that people hate our occupation of their countries and our imposing our ideas of democracy and free markets on them, as well they should be.
I know if I were an Iraqi, I'd probably be out in the streets saying get your bum out of my country. No probably to it. The sheer arrogance of these jerks in trying to impose Democracy on someone else. Its embarrasing. Thats why we kicked the Brits out of our country, they were trying to impose their government on us.
We certainly agree that money means nothing. Its easy to make if you want it, but its not worth much.
We certainly agree that we can decide to place our production into becoming energy independent.
"The economy will not collapse. Have more faith in American ingenuity"
I meant that if the military were disbanded tomorrow it would devestate our economy, thats all. I have extreme faith in our country and the American people. I mean how would you know who was an American in a crowd of various nationalities? You wouldn't, because anyone can become an American. I don't know of another country like ours.
We can agree that the real incentive for people is to have meaningful work. That is the basis for our happiness. but financial incentives don't hurt.
The American worker is betrayed at every step and by almost everyone. That needs to stop. His unions have sold him out, his government has sold him down the river, progressives are selling him out, some conservatives are trying to help in some areas, but mostly they are all teaming with Corporate America to marginalize him and stop upward mobility.
My Dad was a fireman, my Grandad too, when I came back I went into business and now I don't have to worry anymore about my daily bread. Thats America. But I'm not sure if we don't stop all of them, that a kid coming behind me would be able to do as well.
"What does the rapid transfer of wealth from our citizens to the top 1/10th of one percent of people in this country mean to you? That capitalism is working?"
It means thats not capitalism, its crooked dealing and we can transfer it right back if we work together. This bunch are scum.
Our country deserves better from us than we've been giving, the world I assure you would miss us greatly if we withdrew from it.We are far, far better than most here say. Our country is stll the greatest in the world for all our faults and problems. I firmly believe this and also firmly believe we will eventually restore our country to what it should be.
Anyway, you have me thinking in some different ways and thats always a good thing. I'll look forward to reading future posts and seeing what you are thinking.
Pax
I'm not an anthropologist and I don't claim to know all the history of all the tribes that have lived on this planet.
It seems to me that the history of Europe is the history of warlike tribes looting and overcoming peaceful ones. I assume that this may have happened in America, for sure with the Aztecs, but I don't know.
What I do know is that is people have enough, they usually don't attack their neighbors. And if their neighbors have nothing to steal, they don't attack them either.
Maybe we can't stop the greedy from looting and killing. But it's our only chance of a decent future.
Namaste
"I believe we can file your comment under "RESIGNATION" and FUTILITY, which I do not share with you.
It is _n o t_ that we SHOULD, it is that we _ m u s t_ REVERE and take life seriously, for any other mindset is dooming us to perpetual suffering and war.
It is not about just the country's "official" opinion of violence, but more crucially, each individual's CHOICES about violence — that ultimately create the world around us, one thought at a time."
I guess its wether you believe in nature vs. nurture. Personaly I believe many are hard wired for violence. All the positive thoughts in the world will not overcome that urge. In time it could be controlled but not without major social changes. As I stated war is football on steroids. Go out there and convince the american public that football should be eliminated as it is a violent sport. Good luck
T I M E B I T E R,
Yes there are those wired to criminal violence, and those both subtlety and directly conditioned to act that way.
Of course one's nurture has a crucial impact on growth and perceptions, but that's also what being an adult is about, to be responsible for one's thought and actions -- regardless of consequences.
For psychopaths, the hardwiring of having no empathy or emotional connections ( even to frogs ), means that they have no shame or even understanding of the reciprocally of violence -- where what is done to one, is done back onto the other, as well:
__ as we sow
__ so shall we reap
Their violence is literally insanity, and those of quasi-polite society may imagine them efficient at battle ground black ops -- but alas, they do not all die -- and return home to sharpen their knives upon our own loved ones.
There is no ground to be given, for socio-pathetic inclination, as they're so far as IS known -- permanently damaged "goods" -- and must be isolated from all of society. Their insidiously excellent charismatic dissemination, mendacity, and apparent joviality, hides behind their cardboard cut-out existence, of near soulless depravity.
There is no game in pure violence.
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« We must be the change we wish to see in the world » — Gandhi
« There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed » — Gandhi
« We adopt the means of nonviolence because our end is a community at peace with itself » — ML King