Human Rights Group Says It Has Proof of Detainee Abuse
WASHINGTON - A Cambridge-based human rights organization said it has found medical evidence supporting the claims of 11 former detainees who were allegedly tortured while in American custody between 2001 and 2004, in what a former top US military investigator said amounts to evidence of war crimes.
Medical evaluations of the former inmates found injuries consistent with the alleged abuse, including the psychological effects of sensory deprivation and forced nudity as well as signs of "severe physical and sexual assault," Physicians for Human Rights said in a report scheduled for release today.
The report also alleges that in four of the cases, American health professionals appeared to have been complicit by denying the detainees medical care and observing the abuse but making no effort to stop it - charges that, if true, represent gross violations of medical ethics.
Four of the men were captured in Afghanistan and imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and seven were held in Iraq. All were released in recent years, and none was charged with a crime.
Physicians for Human Rights, a liberal-leaning nongovernmental organization established in 1988, relies on health professionals to investigate human rights abuses around the world. It has been credited for chronicling the AIDS epidemic in Africa and investigating conditions in US prisons and juvenile detention centers.
A Physicians for Human Rights official was questioned earlier this month by Israeli authorities after organizing mobile health clinics in Palestinian areas.
The subjects of the group's latest study were identified with the help of two law firms that represent the former detainees, along with the Center for Constitutional Rights, a nonprofit legal advocacy group. The group also established a five-person internal ethics board to review the investigative procedures.
The 130-page report, a copy of which was provided to the Globe, is being released as Congress convenes hearings on the Bush administration's use of controversial interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects. The hearings have examined allegations that some techniques amounted to torture and violated international law, and the Physicians for Human Rights study offers medical evidence to support those allegations.
One detainee who said he was repeatedly stabbed in the cheek with a screwdriver had wounds consistent with such treatment, the doctors reported. Another who said his captors sodomized him also had physical signs that supported the allegation, while several others had burns and psychological problems the doctors concluded were consistent with electrical shocks.
All of them are suffering physical or mental trauma as a result of the abuse, the team of physicians, psychiatrists, and psychologists reported.
"This report tells the largely untold human story of what happened to detainees in our custody when the commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture," retired Army Major General Antonio Taguba, who oversaw the official investigation of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal in Iraq in 2004, wrote in the preface.
Neither the Bush administration nor the Pentagon commented on the unpublished report yesterday. President Bush has repeatedly said he does not condone torture and allows interrogation techniques that are aggressive but legal.
The report challenges that contention with a detailed physical and psychological profile of each of the former detainees. In two of the cases, the medical investigators had access to the subjects' recent medical records. All 11 men were given pseudonyms for their protection, according to the report.
The doctors found that "Kamal," an Iraqi in his late 40s held from September 2003 until June 2004 at Abu Ghraib, has a lesion near his right ear that is "consistent with a healed cut from a sharp-edged instrument," according to the report. He also had another wound by his left ear, described as "a healed puncture injury" that matches "Kamal's description of being stabbed with a screwdriver in his cheek by a soldier," the report states.
Psychologically, "Kamal's clinical presentation, reported history of abuse, and the result of psychological testing support the presence of several psychiatric diagnoses," including depression, a panic disorder, and post-traumatic stress disorder, according to the report.
A subject named "Amir," an Iraqi in his late 20s held in Abu Ghraib prison from August 2003 to January 2005, "showed signs of rectal tearing that are highly consistent with his report of having been sodomized with a broomstick," the report found.
"Yasser," another Abu Ghraib detainee in his mid-40s, had scars on his thumbs and irregularities in the contours of his tongue, according to the report. The medical team concluded that the damage supports his contention that his American captors subjected him to electric shocks.
The report quotes directly from Yasser's interview with the study team: "When they shock you with electricity it feels like your eyes will explode."
Three of the Iraqi detainees and one former Guantanamo inmate reported that they were examined by a medical professional during an episode of torture or physical abuse, but that the abuse continued, the report states. And in another apparent violation of medical ethics, two of the former Guantanamo detainees said they suspected that the psychologist that interviewed them while in custody shared information about them with their interrogators.
Some of the subjects' injuries, however, the doctors found, could not be conclusively linked to abuse while in US custody.
While a bone scan of a middle-aged Iraqi identified as "Laith" showed significant damage to his jaw, the investigators could not determine whether it resulted from blunt force trauma by his captors or a prior dental infection.
Still, Physicians for Human Rights concluded that all of the interrogation techniques the 11 men allegedly endured - including officially sanctioned exposure to extreme temperatures and placement in "stress positions," as well as unauthorized treatment such as sexual abuse - violated both domestic criminal law and international human rights treaties.
The physicians urged the Bush administration to "repudiate all forms of torture" and called on Congress to immediately ban at least 17 of the interrogation techniques they chronicled in their review. It also said the US government should provide reparations to the abuse victims.
General Taguba's judgment was far more severe. "There is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," he wrote.
Bender can be reached at bender@globe.com.
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Show AllAnd they have the nerve to accuse Obama or Jeremiah Wright of "not patriotic". But the Repub's will lose, unfortunately innocent citizen's may also. The Repub's are hellbent to keep the WH, and McCain will ruin it. It is as psychotic as Bush crony's.
To think War in your pocket, is all you need to be a 'hero', 'patriotic', American, .....I think not. McCain has shown his colors and will suffer the consequences. He needs to sit down and shut up before he let's his plan go. Their all in it together.
re jerome irwin 12:19pm
i keep hearing the phrase "hold (his/her/their) feet to the fire" as the prescription for restoring constitutional democracy after the next election. in your post you used it twice.
please explain exactly what this means, giving concrete examples of when, where and how it has been done, and discuss its effectiveness or the lack thereof.
no, really. i've got to know what we've been doing wrong, or not doing at all, ever since the Duhs won majorities in both houses of congress.
could we be dealing with mutants with asbestos feet?
Nadar, the Independent Party candidate, and McKinney, Green Party candidate, have already clearly spoke out in favor of undertaking impeachment proceedings against Cheney and Bush.
We collectively need to hold Obama's feet to the fire until he, too, comes out in support of impeachment proceedings.
Pelosi, Reid et al in the Democratic Party are too far gone, brain-dead, lobbyist-controlled,. to reach.
But Obama is vulnerable and if we continually hold his feet to the fire at every press conference/interview/rally he attends just maybe we can embarass him and the Democrats to take seriously ennis Kucinich's motion.
The future hope for reinstating America as a real, bona-fide democracy hinges on this. And if Obama cannot or will not acknowledge this face then he does not deserve our votes.
fakedemocracy,
Sorry for the incorrect title and link. Thanks for providing the correct one. Antiwar.com is a great website.
gem, in my humble opinion, nobody has "suceeded" yet because we can count on the fact that there are "wildcards" in the deck - so to speak.
Plus, I wouldn't want the job of any of the folks you mentioned. They must be running around like chickens most of the time. I couldn't handle the stress. Too much trouble. I think more and more are starting to feel this way. You know - time to get out of the rat race.
Localize and find a niche - thats my motto.
Peace,
Ken
Being glad "I am not an American" doesn't cut it.
The reason is that every human being who knows of rendition, prisoner abuse, the Iraq "War", any American and other country loss of constitutional and civil liberties is guilty.
Every country in the world should have made the USA a pariah state...cut off all imports and accepted no exports from us until we agreed to play in the sandbox properly.
By NOT subjecting the US to this type of economic sanctions, every country, EVERY COUNTRY in the world said it was O.K. to sodomize, cut, electrocute, water torture prisoners, kill children indescriminately. etc.
The reason not one country truly objected has everything to do with money and fear...since we are the major importing nation now and the biggest bully in the world.
The USA is a very scary country...only if all major and most minor countries got together and formed their own pact to isolate totally the USA would our country back off.
And we still must pray the Hague goes after our "leaders" that we abhor...I would be glad to supply a list of them and it would include almost every member of Congress and the Justice Department...and the whole of the Executive Branch.
Ashamed doesn't even begin to cut it with me. I am ready to leave and let you lot have it. I have marched and I am done. WE can't compete against what is actually going on in the US. Erik Prince and George and Yoo and Roberts and Pelosi have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
Has anyone noticed that the psychologists and the doctors have been among the guilty parties here and that the lawyers, or at least a few of them, have been the heroes? All of these professions are self-regulating. If you are a doctor or a psychologist, become more active in your professional association. Deny licensure to those who have so grossly violated their ethical responsibilities. The military doctors and psychologists who have participated in these war crimes, if they avoid prosecution, may still be prevented from practicing on the rest of us when they leave the military. Wouldn't they look good greeting the public at the local Mal-Wart?
This abomination that has forced itself into the presidency must face justice. Karma must hit this man hard and soon.
Johnny- Thanks for your contribution by quoting me. By the way, what did your congressman do today?
claudius-
thank you for the tip to antiwar.com
I didn't know that site existed. Those folks are on to something. Searching for the title as you wrote it didn't quite work. Maybe because you wrote 'let' instead of "letting" (also searching by author didn't work)
here is the actual title:
Letting Sibel Edmonds Speak
An interview with Sibel Edmonds
and Luke Ryland
by Scott Horton
and a link (if this doesn't get chopped by the computer):
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=13002
"Impeach those who refuse to Impeach!!!"
Impeach those who refuse to impeach those who refuse to impeach those who refuse to impeach!!!
Impeach everybody!
Ridiculous.
The problem we have is many of these politicians feel they are above the law. There never will be impeachment because some of them are involved in a narcotics and nuclear weapons distribution on the black market. The ring is based in the United States, and is filtered through Turkey and then distributed to Israel to Syria to Iran to North Korea and back. The whole farce about Iran trying to develop a nuclear weapon is a smokescreen. It takes attention away from this criminal ring. This is what Sibel Edmonds witnessed when she worked for the FBI. She tells the entire story. The reason why Valerie Plame was illegally exposed is not because her husband went to Nigeria to invetigate the "yellow cake" but she was about to expose this criminal ring that included Denny Hastert, Marc Grossman, Douglas Feith, and other neocons. That is where the smoking gun is and that largely why she is gagged. Read the transcript of the interview that I have cited above. It explains just about everything.
If you want to find out the real reason why impeachment is off the table, go to antiwar.com and read the transcript of an interview titled "Let Sibel Edmonds Speak: Scott Horton" It is a terrific and very revealing interview. Everyone ought to read it.
good post willo.. now the big question,
how to stop talking and act rather quickly??
You're all being too hard on yourselves. It's the responsibility of EVERY American to teach these people about Jesus. If we must beat the Christ out of them to do so, so be it.
Our whole government by continually funding these illegal wars are complicit war criminals. The false flag 9/11 events were used as the excuse to start these wars. It's not even clear at this time who is running our country. Expecting them to arrest and try themselves for crimes is unrealistic.
Impeach NancyP!
It is clear that this country has fallen deeply into claws of greedy killers conservatives,supported by blinded religious fanatical{the pope visiting George Bush}what an endorsement!!of a war criminal.Short of a revolution, nothing else can be done to bring this country back to what once was, Whatever happened to "The Home of the brave"?, The braves have to get tough with the neocons, and round them up to present them to the world court.
Get rid of all the millionaires in congress. Once I got called out for stating I was tired of the rule of law and wished for just a little justice! Well, lets see,we have all these rules and laws and look what we get.
Does anyone really believe Bush & Cheney will be made to pay for their crimes? When hell freezes over. I say again to hell with the rule of law, what I want is just a little justice.
REF: Salman June 18th, 2008 1:20 pm. Shame on Pelosi. Impeach now.
REF: greatbear215 June 18th, 2008 1:27 pm. The people in the Bush White House who committed war crimes need to be charged, they need to be prosecuted, and they need to be convicted. Nothing less will do, and there are people who will settle for nothing less. Criminals must answer for their deeds.
REF: cavedweller June 18th, 2008 2:21 pm
Until we remove the corporate lackeys and weaklings from Congress, nothing will change. The torture, extreme renditions and the usurpation of law will continue. Jefferson said that if the government didn't serve the people, then the people must change it. Our country is being destroyed by greed, sadism and apathy.
REF: WTF June 18th, 2008 2:27 pm. This is not the America that I know. :(
Your statement is sooooo true!!! This is not the America I grew up in. I agree with Michelle Obama's comment concerning our country. This country has lost many, many of the principles of our Founding Fathers and in the process has also lost most of the things that used to make me proud of our country and proud to be an American. We must get those principles back!
What can we do?
1. Get Pelosi out of Congress and Cindy Sheehan (spelling?)in. For those of you in the San Francisco Bay area, please consider voting for Cindy. (I would vote for her but I can't. I'm from Texas. Yes, the place that gave you Busho. I'm really sorry for that! I certainly did not vote for him either in Texas or in Washington! Remember, Pelosi is the one who took impeachment Off The Table!
2. Do not vote for McCain! He certainly will not help us.
3. Please educate yourself concerning the issues presented by each candidate. If your Congress person does not represent you and your values, don't vote for him or her --- even if that person has been your representative for many years. Perhaps new blood in Congress will help get our country back on the right track.
HOYTDOUGLAS; BE REAL! NADER CAN'T DRAW FLIES SO HOW CAN HE DRAW VOTERS. LET'S JUST VOTE OUT THE PELOSI'S IN CONGRESS STARTING WITH HER! SAN FRANCISCANS GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND VOTE HER OUT AND CINDY SHEEHAN IN!
Vote Nader, if you want change.
Mr. Obama is as much a war monger as McCain and Hillary. Those three are corporate candidates. SOS
The events of the past eight years prove that the democratic republic of the United States is defunct.
I see many people still believe working within the system is a solution.
Exactly what is it that the system has done that you are so convinced will keep working for you?
You really think that the system with a corporate deigned leader is going to work. What do you think 35,000 plus lobbyists do all day long? How many people are employed in Congress?
Cmon, people you aren't that stupid are you?
Google "the road to riches called K st by Bingham in the WA Post.
We don't even know the names of the people making the laws in this counry. Look at the state register for the people registered to be lobbyists and for whom.
And you think your vote counts.....
Foolish and stupid we have become.
citizen1
So now the whole thing is Obama's fault. While you go vote for Mickey Mouse, which is your privelege to do, millions of Americans will elect him as our next president and we will then get busy rebuilding a true, moral base in America. We have never had one yet. Ask any Indian or Slave from the last two centuries. Obama represents exactly the kind of change we need, complete change. I'm not willing to wait around for the Green party to have a chance. Agreed, the current 2 party monopoly system should be scrapped. But Obama is Americas best hope right now and I am with him.
America is NOT ready for another selfish, wealthy, white male president. Hell no. And I'm a white, Independent Veteran. He should choose a Mexican/American Vice President named Bill Richardson. Now that's what I call 'CHANGE'
I like the idea of non-violent revolution in this country,like King stood for and Gandi, true, they both died a very violent death, but hey, none of us are getting off this planet alive. Read, study,decide and join a group that promotes non violent Civil Disobedience to our government. It's the only way to avoid being labeled the same as the German people at the end of World War II for the crimes their government imposed upon millions. Impeach Bush and all those respondsible for this insanity!
This IS the America I know. We were responsible for this and worse in Vietnam...I was never in that country, but I saw photos that a friend of mine in the 173rd Airborne smuggled back. Strings of 'VC' ears, hanging from the rucksacks of our soldiers. He told stories of gunning villagers who were declared to be in a 'free fire zone' from his helicopter, any farmer seen in a rice paddy was riddled with machine gun fire. These atrosities have never been accounted for. I have been ashamed of our government for a LONG time.
Veteran '66-68
Helloooooo Obama fans:
What has your candidate done to hold Bush and his coterie accountable? NOTHING
What has he done to stop funding this illegal war (itself a war crime)? NOTHING
Because his party is the COMPLICIT PARTY.
COme November: Anybody but the Two Parties.
Yet again, I sense the true grit and honour of the real American and real Americans here. But what proportion of your population would share your views? Fact is, your alleged republic/democracy is now a sham as is our here in Britain. In fact the looming Europa State ( in principle a good idea for Euro-wide security and peace) is merely a front for the fascists who have again, gained control. This Euro-unity already means 80 percent of laws in Britain arise from Brussels. It is all a western fascist plan and the US is driving the lead vehicle. Night all, and God bless you all.
Roger
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We need to hang our heads in collective shame qnd guilt. The Country, Ccongress, MEDIA AND citizens I.E. BUSY Americans, too busy to pay attention or to care enough to complain loudly, often or repeATEDLY, aa theeee aorry tragedy warranted. HOw do you tqke a whole society to the Wworld Tribunal at the Hague?
We need to hang our heads in collective shame qnd guilt. The Country, Ccongress, MEDIA AND citizens I.E. BUSY Americans, too busy to pay attention or to care enough to complain loudly, often or repeATEDLY, aa atheeee aorry tRAGEDY unfolded and warranted. HOw do you tqke a wholw society to th4 WHOW DO YOU T
"Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just."
Thomas Jefferson
Blessings and honor to Retired (forcibly we might add)General Anthony Taguba who has finally proven that not all military brass is corrupt (Generals Miller, Sanchez, and Petraeus, are you listening?).
Great. But at this point, more evidence is the last thing we need. We have enough to hang these criminals a dozen times. What we need is Democrats with the balls to bring charges.
It's time to set a world date and time to open our windows and yell out, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
At least it would be a start to alleviating our frustrations. Nothing has changed in six years even though everyone is angry about what this war has brought.
Sadly, it is still the case that the more things change, the more they stay the same ("Plus Ça Change, Plus C'est La Même Chose").
Hearken to a pair of anti-imperial Romans outraged by the excesses of their imperial leaders:
"They ravage, they slaughter, they seize by false pretenses, and all of this they hail as the construction of empire. And when in their wake nothing remains but a desert, they call that peace."
Tacitus (Roman Historian 56–120 C.E.)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodies?"
Who will guard us against our guardians?
Juvenal (b. 1st century CE)
I'll give Obama about a month in office before the republicans come up with something they want
to impeach him for. Impeach bush for war crimes? No way. Where the hell are the democrats besides
Kucinich and Wesler?
The Dems and AIPAC have gotten together to twice remove Cynthia McKiinney from the Congress. The first time was in the 2002 primary, when the Dem party actively worked to defeat her in the primary. She got her seat back in 2004, but was again defeated in 2006. I wasn't in GA by then, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't basically the same opposition.
So, unfortunately you can't include Cynthia in any list of decent members of Congress. The Dem party has already removed her from that list.
You can however elect her as the next President.
this is at least the third drop-dead, no doubt statement that Bush et al have committed crimes that should require impeachment and then follow-up prosecutions.
1) This is a clear statement from a general who ran an investigation into this matter, and thus has a credible claim to be an 'expert' that crimes were committed.
2) Kofi Annon, then Sec Gen of the UN stated that the Iraq war was illegal under the UN Charter. As Sec Gen, he again qualifies as an 'expert' on the topic. As a treaty the US has signed and ratified, the Constitution states the UN Charter is the highest law in the land.
3) Bush himself stood up at one point and announced that he had violated the FISA law and was planning on continuing to violate the FISA law. When someone stands up and declares themselves to be a criminal, it seems very clear-cut. Since then, the Dems have helped pass laws giving retro-active immunity and are about to pass a law giving the telecoms immunity.
All of this makes the Dems position very clear. They have on several times been presented with very clear-cut evidence of crimes being committed. And they have refused to honor their sacred oath which they took upon taking office to 'protect and defend the constitution'.
It is very clear that the Dem leadership is committed to keep Bush et al in office. It is literally their refusal to take action that is the only thing standing in the way of removing Bush from office the last two years. At this point, one can only take that as a direct action to support Bush and a direct refusal to uphold the constitution.
Obama is on record saying impeachement should not proceed and should be reserved for 'important matters'. And note very carefully that Obama is saying nothing about any prosecutions of Bush and his officials if elected.
If you want something different, then please stop voting Democrat!
I guess if you carry around a briefcase with the launch codes for thousands of nuclear weapons as part of your job description, you are above the law.
Our officials would be screaming bloody murder if any of "our boys" were held for years and sent home in the conditions described. What upsets me about this is it opens up the entire world to treat prisoners any darn way they want in the future. And what about "tit for tat" when our soldiers are detained?
Thank you Arvy. Gotta go type for the man now, and pay my taxes. On behalf of the United States of America, I apologize for the unspeakable torture that many are experiencing as I write this, as a result of my government's policies. I feel like I might vomit before I get to work. Remember who perished on 9/11 - the hard working ones that get to work on time before 8am. The guilty ones got promotions and plane rides outta here.
barksnotbites June 18th, 2008 3:43 pm -- "Arvy, [...] I probably shouldnt comment anymore."
I would sincerely hope that neither my comment about global perceptions, nor your own feelings about an incomprehensible situation, nor any other factor would prevent you from expressing yourself openly and often.
In fact, your comprehension and appreciation appears to be at least as profound as most commenters. I just worry a little when anyone appears to disown their country's actions, but in your case, I obviously misread your true feelings about the situation.
The problem faced by yourself and fellow USans in the global context is compounded, of course, by oft-repeated US governmental claims about representing the "greatest democracy on earth" and other such indicators of popular support and validation. In addition, while the US military doesn't actually carry SPQR (SenÄtus Populusque RÅmÄnus) banners, at least not yet, they are nevertheless the face of the United States of America and its people as seen by much of the world.
Anyhow, please keep posting and thank you for all of your active efforts.
If this is allowed to be swept under the carpet, then there is absolutely no hope for America. Period.
To quote Resident Bush:
'They hate us for our freedoms!'
If this is freedom, enslavement is going to be a BITCH!
And somehow Dennis Kucinich becomes much more relevant. In the end, I hope Dennis will be able to tell the other stooges in Congress (with the exception of Mckinney and Wexler) and members of the apathetic American public "I told you so."
Bring 'em to Nuremburg!!
Thank you for the article,and the information. I agree that all of those involved in torture or authorizing torture should be prosecuted and given the maximum sentence permitted. I disagree with the author's categorization that the Physicians for Human Rights is a liberal non-governmental organization. Is one liberal because it or they insist on their own government conducting itself in accordance with the law?
You do a disservice to your own work by expressing such a trite observation and your offend any conservative who I would hope would oppose torture by this country
Arvy, you point out the grave implications of a taxpayer supported military showing no mercy on a predominantly innocent population of a Sovereign Nation! Every taxpayer is guilty. Every taxpaying American should expect to get no mercy from anyone, anywhere.
This entire situation is horrific. I dont blame anyone for their hatred of America. It is just that I am as appalled as the next Earth Citizen!
I exercised my rights and marched in the streets in opposition to impending war. I have written letters, signed petitions, called representatives, attended local peace vigils and none of it is enough to stop sociopaths hell-bent on war.
I probably shouldnt comment anymore. Seriously, this war went over my head and everything after it is practically beyond my comprehension.
and for heaven sakes since i've been talking so much up till now, i might as well just keep on going....
Anyhow, I think learning is the key to "being the change you want to happen". Or you could say the change you want to "see" (Hm, Sea, C....).
If someone can convince me otherwise, please do.
So, by now, is it not evident that we simply need to take the "war" out of awareness. Sorry if that seems cliche'. Plus, as someone with a sort of legal mind, let me apologize just now to all whom I might have offended in the past. No offense was intended.
Peace is what we need. Peace,
Ken
Lorax - yes, I suspect there is much smoke, but the TRUTH has a way of being revealed.....eventually....don't you think? Just like the truth of the Lorax who in my opinion was there to protect the forest. The Lorax was the spirit of the forest.
More and more know about the crimes and the pirates. In the long run, this will be the difference. In the long run, those who know and then choose to be better, will prevail. And, in my humble opinion, they will demand something better from those who perpetuate suffering of innocence. The will demand in an undeniable manner.
So in this way, we can view the Bush Administration as a "learning experience" that we needed to have to prepare us for the future. Thats the way I view it.
Peace,
Ken
barksnotbites June 18th, 2008 2:50 pm -- "Ladybug, I feel the shame, but it is not mine to own."
Perhaps not. But when you ask the world to make a distinction between the country's administration and its allegedly sovereign people, you are asking for a much finer allocation of treatment than the US has ever shown to others in its "shock and awe" approaches to global domination.
Ladybug, I feel the shame, but it is not mine to own. The shame is the intellectual property of Bush, Cheney, all the Principals, and Pelosi and too many more to name in this comment section. The shame is theirs. Bush started as a child putting firecrackers in frogs, Jeffrey Dahmer also did things like that. We dont even know why Cheney needs a man sized vault in his office and so many other secrets. Nope, unfortunately, the scourge that is their shame happens to reflect on us as a Nation and that is embarrasing and mostly unfair too- Considering the true statistical numbers of people who are opposed to all that is going on in our names. Ultimately we must all redeem ourselves. Every Earth Citizen will be asked essentially to live what they believe or sell out to the fear. Nobody owns the Polar Bears. They are for all of us to save and too many others to list here. Choose peace. Imagine, John Lennon was not the only one. Winter Soldiers know this too. They know the shame, and yet, they know who it really belongs to.
ladybug June 18th, 2008 2:15 pm -- "I'm so glad I'm not american, I would be so ashamed."
Well, if you're a citizen of a NATO country that is participating in that so-called "good war" in Afghanistan, don't let yourself off the hook too easily. NATO participants are aiding and abetting some pretty horrendous crimes there too.
There are so many Strawmen.
Although it's blatantly obvious to any reasonable person that 9/11 was a setup, so many blockers come out to cover up the truth. A man is tortured into a phony confession. 'Scientists' come forward to explain the 'magic collapse'. It creates confusion and the smokescreen shields the bush adminstration perfectly. No 'truth' will ever be allowed.
Alberto Gonzales blocked the Valerie Plame Case.
Nancy Pelosi blocked impeachment.
Now the proof of torture we knew about all along is being revealed.
More Strawmen will block the way.
No case will ever be brought forth. The smoke is too thick to see.
When similar things were done in the former Yugoslavia, people were indicted and tried. When similar things were done in West Africa, people were indicted and tried. America insisted on such treatment of the war criminals. If Americans are not treated in the same way when they do the same evil things, the whole world will view America as the land of hypocrisy. War criminals and hypocrites. Makes one proud, doesn't it?
Theres the smoking gun. Hang the Bush Crime Family.
This will reveal whether Justice in America is alive or dead. Only a criminal trial for the Administration's crimes against humanity -- including premediated, mass murder will determine if we are nation of laws and justice. I for one, want to see justice restored and alive!
This is not the America that I know. :(
Until we remove the corporate lackeys and weaklings from Congress, nothing will change. The torture, extreme renditions and the usurpation of law will continue. Jefferson said that if the government didn't serve the people, then the people must change it. Our country is being destroyed by greed, sadism and apathy.
They can't escape Divine Law no matter what they think. Karmic Law is EXACT and it is BRUTAL.
Impeach those who refuse to Impeach!!!
Do not expect Democrats together with Republicans to indict the White House or former members involved in the crimes....there is no group courage in Congress!
And these atrocities will be remembered around the world, and will be something our children's children and on down the line will be paying dearly for.
We know those who're responsible will never be brought to justice - at least not by any legal process in this country.
I'm so glad I'm not american, I would be so ashamed.
We are outraged at each new verification of the crimes of this administration. I can only imagine how this plays in the Middle East.
YOU ARE PAYING FOR ALL OF IT...LOOK IN THE MIRROR..YOUR TAX DOLLARS..AND YOUR FEAR TO NOT PAY..ARE THE ONLY...ONLY REASONS THIS IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE..WITHOUT A SALLERY...MANY OF THEE THUGRUNTS THAT COMMIT THE ACTUAL CRIMES..THE TORTURE, THE KIDNAPPING...THE MURDER...WOULD NOT BE IN SUCH JOBS...WHAT? YOU THINK THEY WOULD WORK FOR FREE? SOME OF EM..MAYBE...SOCIOPATHS SUCH AS THEY ARE...BUT MOST..ARE IN IT FOR THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS YOU PROVIDE..
SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT...SUPPORT THE WAR WITH YOUR MONEY..OR RATIONALIZE AWAY...THE CHOICE IS YOURS..
JOIN IN TAX STRIKE..A "RISK"? MAYBE...IS THERE ANY REAL CHANGE WITHOUT RISK? MOST PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD HAVE TO PICK UP A GUN TO EFFECT THE KIND OF CHANGE YOU CAN MAKE BY SIMPLY...NOT "DECLARING"..BUT IT IS THE ONLY POWER WE HAVE LEFT...THE POWER OF THE PURSE..WITHOUT THE DISPOSABLE BILLIONS....THE MACHINE...THE WHEELS OF DOOM...DO NOT TURN...AT LEAST NOT AS FAST...IT IS THE ONLY WAY...
JUST LIKE ANY OUT OF CONTROL COMPANY...THE UNITED STATES MUST UNDERGO A STRIKE UNTIL DEMANDS FOR BETTER CONDITIONS ARE MET...SUCH AS A RETURN TO ACTUL..HONEST..."REPRESENTATION" OF CITIZENS..AND NOT..LOBBYISTS..DEMAND THAT THE PENTAGRAM BE REMOVED FROM THE POLITICAL MACHINERY...ETC..ETC..WITHOUTH THE MONEY...LWHAT CHOICE WOULD THEY HAVE...I AINT PAYING FOR THE BOMBS CHIEF...SO? WHAT YA GONNA DO?...OR..LOOK AT IT THIS WAY...IMPOSE YOUR OWN.."ECONOMIC SANCTIONS" AGAISNT A "ROGUE STATE"...AKA THE U.S.A.
OR DON'T...MOST OF YOU ARE CONTENT TO BLAME ANYONE ELSE....BUT YOURSELVES....AND IT IS...YOUR...M-O-N-E-Y....AND YOURS.....AND YOURS...BUT NOT MINE...NOPE...NOT MINE...I AINT GOING TO BE FORCED...COERCED..INTO PAYING FOR ILLEGAL WARS..TORTURE..MURDER...CORPORATE FASCIST SECURITY STATE...ALA CHINA...NOPE! NOT ME...SO..DO THE RIGHT THING...STRIKE! STRIKE!...STRIKE! UNTIL MANAGEMENT LISTENS....STRIKES WORK...UNION OF TAX PAYERS...STRIKE!
She was just following the insanity, er, orders.
Free Lindy England or whatever her name is, and jail Bu$h and Uncle D.
Cheney says, "So?"
I say, "What's new?"
The people in the bush White House who committed war crimes need to be charged, they need to be prosecuted, and they need to be convicted. Nothing less will do, and there are people who will settle for nothing less. Criminals must answer for their deeds.
Shame on Pelosi
Impeach now
More heart crushing news dressed up as patriotism. There are no evil words in the lexicon of our language capable of describing George Bush and Dick Cheney.
thankyou for my daily 'wanker' laugh mordechai
OLD JEFFERSONIAN
'my disgust knows no bounds'.......... alas,neither does their perversion.
I never had any doubt, because I am aware of the history of U.S. foreign policies, past and present. Iraq is no exception.
"'Kick ass!' [Bush] said, echoing Colin Powell's tough talk. 'If somebody tries to stop the march to democracy, we will seek them out and kill them! We must be tougher than hell! This Vietnam stuff, this is not even close. It is a mind-set. We can't send that message. It's an excuse to prepare us for withdrawal.
"There is a series of moments and this is one of them. Our will is being tested, but we are resolute. We have a better way. Stay strong! Stay the course! Kill them! Be confident! Prevail! We are going to wipe them out! We are not blinking!
Above are the immortal words of George Wanker Bush in his role as the Gauleiter of his own warped, vicious and totally corrupt soul. Reading this verbal vomit from the mind of the western world's version of Kim Jong Il leaves no doubt that the United States government has indeed become an engine of torture. It makes you want to go hide in a dark corner and sleep for the next 20 years.
with all due respect to general taguba, the discretionary invasion and occupation of two sovereign nations---in the words of the nuremberg verdicts, wars of aggression---should have left no doubt in anyone's mind as to whether war crimes had been committed by bushco.
the questions then and now are: what is to be done, and who will do it? congress has already given its reply, but i'm not hopeful that investigations into steroid use by professional athletes will be of much value.
general? admiral fallon? do either of you care to follow up?
The evidence points to the conclusion that the administration has acted with behavior consistent with psychotic war criminals.
Sadistic deliberate war crimes, aided and abeted by the Bush Crime Family's SCOTUS as well as the Senate and House of Representatives. I say send the whole bunch of these homocidal looting liars to the Hague or the ICC and let them search like Diogenies for an honest man.
Can it become any more clear that numerous members of the Bush Administration should be arrested and tried for both war crimes and crimes against humanity?
Prosecute!!
With all the studies and all the proofs, the documentation, the leaks, the Legislative and Judiciary are more interested in finding and punishing the leakers than they are in investigating the charges. They will not block torture, nor impeach the torturers, nor pass any law to restrict the profiteers. My disgust knows no bounds.