Journalism's Tim Russert Problem
My sympathies go to Tim Russert's family. My father died the same way: massive heart attack in the middle of the day, in the prime of his life (he was 46, Russert was 58). Shock doesn't begin to describe the effect on those who stay behind. Try anger, try a sense of loss that, contrary to greeting-card drivel, never fades until, I expect, one's own final collapse. Russert wasn't family, but it's fair to say, as the casket-lidded lines at the end of obituaries usually do, that his survivors include the 3 million viewers who tuned in every Sunday to watch "Meet the Press," and even the procession of politicians who've been squirming their way through his show since 1991. Sadly for us, television personalities can seem closer to us than family members. Russert, however, never had that effect on me.
Respect for the man aside, there's a matter of respecting journalism when assessing Russert's place in the trade. That respect has been lacking in the almost universally fawning tributes to Russert and the craft he represented. Journalists and politicians from the president on down have formed yet another procession of praise and prostrations worthy of, say, Diana or Elvis. But Tim Russert?
That's what journalism as we know it today is, primarily: an adjunct to the cult of celebrity, a shareholder in the business of image management to protect, foremost, the business of America. When the powerful pay tribute to Russert ("he was an institution in both news and politics for more than two decades," were President Bush's autopilot words) they're paying tribute to themselves -- to the establishment Russert represented, defended and, unfortunately for us, encrusted.
You expect politics to be a game between scoundrels, to be "the art of governing mankind by deceiving them," as Isaac Disraeli (Benjamin's son) put it. You don't expect journalists to enable the fraud, but to unravel it, at least occasionally. Russert's reputation rested on the no-nonsense interview designed to do just that. It was more reputation than reality. Since the Age of Reagan, the perception of tough journalism has paralleled the perception of integrity in politics when, all along, politics and journalism have been complicit in legitimizing spin -- interpretation ahead of fact. In more honest days, we'd call that propaganda. But that's one of those "shrill" words not to be used in polite company, and Russert's court was nothing if not a weekly oath to the appropriate.
The late Michael Kelly, a reporter and editor whose death in Iraq in 2003 was to my mind a greater blow to journalism than Russert's, described this in a piece for The New York Times Magazine in 1993 (two years into Russert's stint at "Meet"): "On the Sunday talk shows, the celebrity host and the celebrity reporter and the celebrity political strategist sit side by side, and the distinctions between them are not apparent to the naked eye. In effect, they are one, members of the faith, the stars of a culture they themselves have created. Indeed, they have acknowledged their oneness. They have given themselves a name, the Insiders, and a language. The language reveals, as all languages do, a great deal about how its speakers see themselves and the world. It is self-referential, self-important, self-mocking and very nearly (if subconsciously) self-loathing. It is deeply cynical. It portrays a society where to be knowing is to admit the fraud of one's functions in the act of performing them." At least, they have the loathing right.
Two weeks before the Iraq war, I attended a taping of "Meet the Press." Among Russert's guests: Fred Thompson, the actor and occasional conservative senator (talk about oneness), and Mike Farrell, the liberal activist, actor and star of M*A*S*H. Farrell had produced an ad for Citizens United, arguing against going to war, "endangering the lives of our troops, expending horrendous amounts of money . . . that has not been budgeted for, and the American people haven't been told about the expense of it," all over weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist while "Osama bin Forgotten" remained at large. Thompson, who was featured in his own ad name-calling war opponents, was brought on to ridicule Farrell, and did, with this one line: "Oh, my goodness, where do you start?" The last five years, of course, kept providing the answer (at the cost of tens of thousands of lives and soon to be $1 trillion): You start by not going to war, an answer Farrell and like-minded, ridiculed war opponents already knew.
And Russert that day? His questions to Farrell were straight out of the White House playbook: "How can you say inspections are working when here we are 12 years after the Persian Gulf War, VX, anthrax, mustard still unaccounted for and inspectors have not been in Iraq for the last four years? We don't know what the state of a potential nuclear program is." Actually, United Nations inspectors were trying to do their job in Iraq, and various parts of the American intelligence community were discrediting the WMD allegations. We just weren't told, and Russert wasn't the kind of institution that questioned White House gospel.
In an interview with President Bush a year later, Russert posed all the right questions: "There's a sense in the country that the intelligence that was given was ambiguous, and that you took it and molded it and shaped it -- your opponents have said 'hyped' it -- and rushed to war"; "Looking back, in your mind, is it worth the loss of 530 American lives and 3,000 injuries?"; "In light of not finding the weapons of mass destruction, do you believe the war in Iraq is a war of choice or a war of necessity?" Those are the kind of questions that gave Russert his reputation as a tough interviewer. But, in every case, the question was a set-up for Bush to give his standard, pre-packaged answer, knowing he could trust Russert never to ridicule the packaging. Russert never did.
The truth is that on any night of the week Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" does more in a two-minute segment to show in politicians' own words how venal, dishonest, contradictory and just plain dense they can be than Russert did in his Sunday services. Russert's master was always the political structure he grilled, but never fundamentally questioned. You always knew whose side he was on: power, not truth -- and, by power, I don't mean his own, of which he had plenty, but the powerful men and occasional women he invited to his Versailles.
I mourn his death. But I wish I could mourn the death of the journalism he represented. To the detriment of journalism and malinformed citizens, that parody lives on.
Tristam is a News-Journal editorial writer. Reach him at ptristam@att.net or through his personal Web site at www.pierretristam.com.
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78 Comments so far
Show AllGod struck him down because he ignored Dennis Kucinich in the Democratic debate, then finally turned to him and asked Dennis a question about UFOs. Vengance is mine, sayeth the Lord!
I may have been shocked that a man died at so young of age but I sure didn't not respect Russert the way he was glowingly been portrayed since his death. And sure he loved his own father. But Russert let VEEP come on and reference himself in an attempt to sell the war. "an article today in the NYT said Iraq was looking for aluminum tubes" or whatever. Russert wasn't too keen a researcher to discover the article in the NYT was placed by the WH.
Some jounranlist indeed, my ass. He was a much a part of the problem as the other propagandists in the MSM.
Tough questioner... oh please.
I wonder if as many Americans wept at the death of a single soldier or civilian
in Iraq as they are for Bush enabler, Tim Russet.
I stopped watching all the Sunday morning talk shows and other punditry after 9/11 when they all became shamless war-mongering cheerleaders for the Bush administration. From Chris Matthews "We're all neocons now", to Russert's softball tossing to anyone speaking in favor of the Bush doctrine, the truth took a back seat to pumped up national fanaticism. It's the best thing I did as I now carefully pick and choose where I get my info. The truth is far too important to leave it in the hands of corporate whores who lie, twist ,omit and do anything else to mold their listeners into robotic followers.
"If you ever faithfully watched "Meet the Press", Russert grilled everyone with equal opportunity - conservative, liberal, it did not matter. He was a tough questioner no matter what your political stripe. "
To the poster who wrote that I say BALDERDASH! See Justin Raimundo's piece, at antiwar dot com, on Russert's interview with Darth Cheney for a sampling of evidence. Russert was an active and eager enabler of the illegal and immoral Iraq invasion.
Good riddance to him, he was just another media whore who enabled war mongers and war profiteers (including Russert himself) to have their way. He did not distinguish himself in any way. He was a dime a dozen, not one in a million. And he'll likely be replaced tout de suite by another corporate media whore.
So what else is news? pfft
Daniel David: You never have anything interesting or meaningful to say. Waste of time trying to respond to you. You keep on championing the unsustainable and immoral 'American' way of life. *** ignore ***
Hey, folks it is good to be able to make some distinctions among things! Some in this discussion seem only able to apply the very broadest of brushes.
That turns everyone and everything into the same thing. There are some differences. They're not anywhere near as broad as I'd like to see, but lumping everyone together doesn't help us understand what's going on in the MSM and won't help progressives in combatting the failures of the MSM.
To hell with decency. This man was an enabler of state violence on a massive scale. I shed not one tear for this man and say only "good riddance" to him and his lot. I fail to see why someone who played a crucial role in the launching and protraction of this illegal war should be afforded any courtesy or "decency" whatsoever. Is it because of his jolly and congenial nature? I'd rather judge him by the grisly consequences of his actions than his warm and fuzzy persona. He knew what he was doing: selling lies, taking a cheque and watching soldiers fall.
thong-girl, you got it right. The current swarm of American MSM whores (and I apologize to the world's oldest profession) has betrayed the USA by being cyphers to their corporate and political masters. American journalism is no different today than the press under the Soviet jackboot --- actually it's worse because the prostitution is voluntary.
Russert was a lowlife lying bastard and as such I hope he suffered pain before he croaked. As far as the rest of the talking heads, from Matthews, to Obermann, to everyone who even gathers mail for Fox, and especially Murdoch and his family, on to PBS and, of course, all the major papers, all the radio heads and if I've missed anyone you get my drift, they deserve a worse fate. The lot deserve to be gathered on a boat and sent to Gitmo right after the keys are handed over to Fidel and his boys. Good riddance to Russert, the lackie who croaked on his vomit, and hopefully an epidemic of MSM "journalists" will follow.
Ironically, Tristam gives the late Michael Kelly a tip of the hat in passing; here's an excerpt of Bob Somerby's (The Daily Howler) amazingly pertinent comments after Kelly's passing:
"MONDAY, APRIL 7, 2003
A VALENTINE TO THEIR COHORT'S DYSFUNCTION: No one roots for premature death. And it may well be (as we have long heard) that the late Michael Kelly was a very nice person—in his private dealings.
But in his public life, Kelly was not a nice person—quite the contrary, in fact. In his public life—the important life he conducted on the pages of the Washington Post, for example—Kelly was a relentless dissembler and the equivalent of a loud, angry drunk. He did deep damage to his country's discourse—and as such, he harmed the public interest. However he treated his colleagues in private, Kelly was endlessly venal in public. And the pundit corps' long-standing refusal to notice that fact sheds light on that cohort's deep dysfunction."
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I've borrowed, or extended, the term "glurge" from Internetspeak-- it refers to those awful, imbecilic, gloppily sentimental chain-mails, or supposedly useful information based on hoaxes, that users of low intellect compulsively send around-- to describe the equally awful melodramatic, hysterical, hyperbolic, and typically truthless media circus that is launched every time a "professional" celebrity dies.
Nor am I persuaded, much less shamed, by the sanctimonious babbitry that excuses, endorses, and encourages this kind of pious blather as a worthy exhibition of "decency", "civility", or "humanity".
Mark Twain once observed that mush-and-milk journalism gave him the fan-tods. Same here-- and that especially goes for the puerile ritual of overdone and unwarranted encomiums to the departed.
By all means, may flights of angels sing him to his rest. But I don't mistake the banal gushing of fellow media infotainwhores or a credulous public for that celestial choir.
EPHRAIM: You nailed it. Astute analysis!
Jeez, could you wait for the body to get cold before ripping the guy apart?
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Commonreader June 17th, 2008 3:53 pm
Commondreader pointed out that Russert gave Nader plenty of time on his show.
Today on DemocracyNow.org, Nader gave Russert some evidence-based praise for having more diverse guests on his show (including himself), and for returning calls more than other talk show hosts in the corporate media.
I think Tristan strikes just the right balance here. Losing your family member in this rapid, unanticipated way is jarring and brutal.
But having found the brouhaha over-done myself, I appreciated his other comments, too.
Let's juxtapose Amy Goodman against Tim Russert. Amy's program sometimes talks about things I don't think I care about. Is the woman _obsessed_ with South America or what? Sometimes she's a little more combative than I prefer (particularly when she had Lou Dobbs on). But I _never_ fail to learn something when I listen to her.
And when I read Naomi Klein's _Shock Doctrine_ I finally got why she's so focused on South America. So while I was listening to her South America programs, I was learning background info that fit into a whole when I read some other information.
Russert, the few times I did watch him, always seemed like a mill for laying out neat talking points of "both" sides of the issue. But there was always enough kissy*kissy going on so that key players would want to come back on later. (Lou will probably never darken Amy's door again.) So you got issues-lite.
He was a corporate media shill. We'll get another one, no doubt. There are many in the wings.
Won't change what I do. I get my news from CD and NPR and the other progressive sites. Watching the MSM is just an opportunity to monitor what they *aren't* talking about.
I'm glad I didn't die before Russert. I'd *hate* for him to tell people what a nice guy I was. God, I hate phony decency. I'd tell him please lay it on.
(Some people think I'm a nice guy. Luckily, those are the people who matter to me.)
I don't have a television. I caught Russert maybe a dozen times throughout the years in various circumstances. I couldn't stand his vaudeville "man of the people" schtick and vapid questioning. Looked to me like his purpose was to play to the masses while making sure everything stayed within bounds of the Big Lie. In that, apparently, he did a good job.
I don't think anyone who criticizes Russert's journalism is Glad He Died. That's not the point. Can't we separate what Russert did and said as a journalist with whatever was or wasn't true about him as a private person? Not many Americans can pull off this momentous feat. If Russert seemed like a Nice Guy then we simply MUST trust his journalistic method and intent. Can you say superficial? You'd better, because not adhering to the thinnest superficiality will get you thrown to the lions in Tim Russert's America.
Russert was no great loss as far as real journalism goes. After the Media Reform Conference I feel a little more hope for real guts n blood journalism again like those guys who used to wear out their shoes pounding the pavement to get a real story. That kind of journalism has been almost non existent in our day to day media machine.I have a lot more respect for Dan Rather than I do Russert.
I don't know why you all even watch the msm, or tv at all for that matter. It's all b.s. Every time you turn on one of these programs you give support and credibility to them. If something disgusts you, upsets you, don't give it life by recognizizng it. TURN IT OFF. There are many souces of information available today where you can get truth; maybe read a little instead of watching packaged falsehoods. All the msm pollutes your mind, draws you into their game and makes you one of their players. Cut yourself off completely from their lies and influence. Turn the t.v. off. It's a revolutionaary act.
I consider it impolitic to speak ill of the dead. If you ever faithfully watched "Meet the Press", Russert grilled everyone with equal opportunity - conservative, liberal, it did not matter. He was a tough questioner no matter what your political stripe. He came at you with a prosecutor's masterful technique, eager to get to the bottom of the matter regardless of what it was. He asked those tough questions that many of us wanted to ask people in power, and it didn't matter if you were Bush, Cheney, Hillary, Obama, McCain or whoever. (Believe me, I watched him grill each and every one of them mercilessly and in some cases, make them look downright foolish on occasion!)
Every single candidate for office who went on his show ended up either on the scrap heap of history if they didn't perform well, or went on to win office or get close to doing so if they managed to survive a Russert grilling intact. It was considered, in political circles, to be a rite of passage to go on "Meet the Press" and try to survive Russert's tough questions. If you made it, you made it. If not.....goodbye, your political ambitions were dashed for good.
I mourn for the Russert family this very sudden and tragic loss of their son, father, brother and husband. Tim Russert will never get to see his son go to grad school, should he choose to do so, start a career, marry and have children of his own and make Tim a proud grandfather like "Big Russ". As someone who lost her own father very suddenly and at far too young an age, my sincerest sympathies go to the entire Russert family. May you find peace and comfort in your faith to take you through this long dark passage and out the other side into the bright light of another day.
Sorry for the repeat comments - I was having problems with this computer trying to get CommonDreams to accept my comments. WordPress kept insisting that I wasn't registered or some such idiot thing so I kept re-submitting hoping that eventually it'd go through, and it looks as if it did multiple times. Again, sorry. I'm still on an old fashioned analog dial-up connection on a very old computer and it can get rather fussy sometimes!
I consider it impolitic to speak ill of the dead. If you ever faithfully watched "Meet the Press", Russert grilled everyone with equal opportunity - conservative, liberal, it did not matter. He was a tough questioner no matter what your political stripe. He came at you with a prosecutor's masterful technique, eager to get to the bottom of the matter regardless of what it was. He asked those tough questions that many of us wanted to ask people in power, and it didn't matter if you were Bush, Cheney, Hillary, Obama, McCain or whoever. (Believe me, I watched him grill each and every one of them mercilessly and in some cases, make them look downright foolish on occasion!)
Every single candidate for office who went on his show ended up either on the scrap heap of history if they didn't perform well, or went on to win office or get close to doing so if they managed to survive a Russert grilling intact. It was considered, in political circles, to be a rite of passage to go on "Meet the Press" and try to survive Russert's tough questions. If you made it, you made it. If not.....goodbye, your political ambitions were dashed for good.
I mourn for the Russert family this very sudden and tragic loss of their son, father, brother and husband. Tim Russert will never get to see his son go to grad school, should he choose to do so, start a career, marry and have children of his own and make Tim a proud grandfather like "Big Russ". As someone who lost her own father very suddenly and at far too young an age, my sincerest sympathies go to the entire Russert family. May you find peace and comfort in your faith to take you through this long dark passage and out the other side into the bright light of another day.
I consider it impolitic to speak ill of the dead. If you ever faithfully watched "Meet the Press", Russert grilled everyone with equal opportunity - conservative, liberal, it did not matter. He was a tough questioner no matter what your political stripe. He came at you with a prosecutor's masterful technique, eager to get to the bottom of the matter regardless of what it was. He asked those tough questions that many of us wanted to ask people in power, and it didn't matter if you were Bush, Cheney, Hillary, Obama, McCain or whoever. (Believe me, I watched him grill each and every one of them mercilessly and in some cases, make them look downright foolish on occasion!)
Every single candidate for office who went on his show ended up either on the scrap heap of history if they didn't perform well, or went on to win office or get close to doing so if they managed to survive a Russert grilling intact. It was considered, in political circles, to be a rite of passage to go on "Meet the Press" and try to survive Russert's tough questions. If you made it, you made it. If not.....goodbye, your political ambitions were dashed for good.
I mourn for the Russert family this very sudden and tragic loss of their son, father, brother and husband. Tim Russert will never get to see his son go to grad school, should he choose to do so, start a career, marry and have children of his own and make Tim a proud grandfather like "Big Russ". As someone who lost her own father very suddenly and at far too young an age, my sincerest sympathies go to the entire Russert family. May you find peace and comfort in your faith to take you through this long dark passage and out the other side into the bright light of another day.
Should you have?
Seedeevee - I did not suggest it was either/or.
This piece at least shows a little courage, but Russert's death is not particularly mournable. I'll spend my limited tears on the Iraqis that he effectively helped to murder.
Secondly, what about proposing a solution, Mr. Tristam? Of course, you cannot, because the solution is worldwide socialist revolution, and if you say that, your days of getting published are over.
I guess this is my opportunity to be the hero, eh? Let me be the speaker of truth, if nobody else will step forward: The singular task of our time is to build the political party with the will and program to unite humanity under egalitarian socialism. Advocating anything else is either treachery or profound ignorance. Saying nothing none too noble, either.
I wonder when people will question that someone who smoothed the way of corporate power elite in a critical time in the life of constitutional government and who carries much responsibility for mass murder in Iraq is a "nice guy". I guess everything else counts in the assessment, but not that? I don't buy "nice guy". Getting kinda sick of it really. When I read the paper this morning and saw the usual photos and obits of regular folks...carpenters, truck drivers, nurses, housewives...all had been screwed around with by the likes of Russert...well, my heart did go out the them.
Of course, Russert may just have been stupid. I once attended a party consisting mainly of big shot television "news" people, and I never met a more uniformly dumb and stupidly self-satisfied bunch of sycophants. The main trends of the conversations tended to be about vacations, resorts, who knows which celebrity , and (when some hick brought up something substantive about world or national affairs), a wink and indulgent chuckle and something about, "This is a racket, don't you know."
J LOCKE: Thank you for a very wise and informed response to LEFT K. Much needed!
LEFT K: Do you read Chomsky? Zinn? John Dean's analysis of the authoritarians running the show? We're way past "America the beautiful" drunk on the national anthem highs.
GENE THERAPY: Interesting post.
LUCKY LEFTY: Your glib analysis of the dire state of the nation as per its economics can't be argued, but damn, brother, there ARE things HIGHER than dollars and cents! I hope you HAVE a spiritual EXPERIENCE... the Jimi Hendrix, "Are you experienced, have you ever been experienced?" Kind... cause brother, there sure is a whole lotta mysteries in heaven and earth that your earthbound logic can never fathom. Leave room for grace, the random miracle, the power of hearts.
Fortunately, I prefer honesty over decency.
I agree with Tristam. I also agree with Olbermann, however, who said that tearing Russert apart should wait until he's (at least) been buried.
It's called decency.
#1 DD is a hack. He is owned by the SYSTEM every bit as much as Russert was, except he is A LOT farther down the food chain. He WANTED to be on the Russert "show" and get lobbed softballs so that he could sound "Important". This guy IS a softball. Actually more like a whiffle ball (remember them?)
#2. As much as I lament the loss of richfilth enablers living their lives of insulated privilege from the backs of their tinted window limousines ferried in hushed luxury from mansion to penthouse, I save my grief for the REAL PEOPLE here and in Iraq who bleed and die everyday because THIS ASSHOLE WOULDN'T DO HIS JOB BECAUSE MASTER PAID HIM GOOD TO LIE. Sort of sounds like Pelosi and most of the traitorous Dims, don't it.
I guess that's why they call it a "System". Watch out for the spiked wheels when the Russerts, BHOs, and Dims throw you under the bus. The spikes drive real deep. But then, whoever said life was supposed to be fair right?
I guess it's just our turn. Next stop, $6/gal with a 30 cent $$. Now that's going to make "somebody" rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You don't mind living in a tent near a railroad yards for that kind of noble purpose, right?
After all, your Masters are ordained by the flat earth genocidal blood god Yahweh to rule you and your children, right?
Tristam wrote: "In an interview with President Bush a year later, Russert posed all the right questions: ... 'In light of not finding the weapons of mass destruction, do you believe the war in Iraq is a war of choice or a war of necessity?' Those are the kind of questions that gave Russert his reputation as a tough interviewer. But, in every case, the question was a set-up for Bush to give his standard, pre-packaged answer, knowing he could trust Russert never to ridicule the packaging. Russert never did."
If Russert's question as to whether or not the war in Iraq is (not was) a 'war of necessity' or a 'war of choice,' I don't think Bush was in on it. To me at least, Bush seemed genuinely perplexed. He even asked Russert if he would "expand on that" -- i.e., explain the concept of a 'war of choice' -- which Russert refused to do. I thought it was a revealing moment, and one that will be of much interest to future historians loooking for insight into the thinking of George W. Bush. I believe Bush replied that the war "was a war of necessity." I do not recall if Russert followed up on Bush's response, for example, to try to clarify the verb tense.
It's a pretty sad commentary on the state of US journalism that Russert was considered the best of the best because he asked "hard questions" and asked interviewees to reconcile current statements with past statements. Seems to me those are very basic skills, which--if you're not capable of--you shouldn't even be in the profession.
I thought the article struck the right balance: As a stroke survivor, I cannot engage in some of the vitrol exhibited here towards the man: he was a human being after all, even with his pretentions of working-class Buffalo, NY heroism. This doesn't excuse the fact that his sycophantic water-carrying for corporate power was legend.
Tim Russert represented the worst in our corrupt Media. He was a Cheer-leader and drum-beater for the power-that-be. He never asked a really probing question and was quick to back paddle and retreat after
giving a slight strong question.
He and his ilk did and are doing great harm to the American people.
I heard a former NBC News president (pre-1970 I think) say "News is what somebody doesn't want you to know, all the rest is advertising". IIRC, he said it in an NBC broadcast booth at a Democratic or Republican convention. No one in the booth at the time either acknowledged or even seem to hear what he said. Sadly, in these times, the advertising far outweighs the news.
The words 'shill' and 'lapdog' come to mind. Sorry, Russert "seemed nice enough on t.v." but he was a softball thrower at best.
Rachael Maddow and Tim Russert were very much alike. Both fair, willing to give the other side a bite, not stuck in ideology, but one was conservative and one was liberal. I liked both for what they (were) are.
"he is well-spoken of by nearly everyone" - Really!?
Did you read the posts here?"
They don't say anything about Tim Russert, but they do speak volumes.
leftk June 17th, 2008 3:08 pm: "Unlike most of the folks on Commondreams, Tim Russert trusted the people who run our country."
Leftk, The reason Russert trusted the people who run (your) country was that he counted himself as one of those lucky few. They took care of him, and he them. What did Russert do for his five million American dollars a year? He was a valuable employee of the news division of General Electric, the manufacturer of various weapons. Why does a maker of nuclear and other weapons need a news division? Good question, but not one that Russert ever asked. Sales are good right now for GE, by the way. Wars do that, pity about all your dead and maimed compatriots.
Commonreader June 17th, 2008 3:53 pm: "Ralph Nader announced his candidacy on MTP. It was in 2004, I believe. Russert gave him about half his show that morning and the discussion was solid. Did any other mainstream media give Nader even that much time for the rest of his campaign?"
Commondreamer, in a similar vein, Michael Moore was on CNN when his movie came out. But he wasn't welcome in the previous year, and hasn't been since. Is this because nobody else shares Moore's or Nader's views? No, many people share them. Is it because CNN and NBC have someone else appearing on their shows with the same views? No, they have nobody appearing regularly who expresses these views.
If "the discussion was solid" with Nader, maybe Russert should have tried being solid with those, unlike Nader, who have positions of power. He didn't. Bush for example has to come on a plane to the UK in order to meet real reporters, one of whom Bush chastised this week for asking a tough question.
I stopped watching Meet the Press after Cheney was the guest prior to the war. It was simply a format for Cheney to explain all of his lies to the thousands who watch Meet the Press. It was deplorable. For a while I still watched Jim Leahr, but when PBS changed his format I stopped watching Jim. Now I only get my news from website like Common Dreams and am deeply appreciative of the posters who for the most part are interesting, informative and not afraid to voice their opinions.
"In short, I read Tristam's criticism as a statement that Tim Russert, a mainstream media journalist, was a mainstream media journalist. Hardly an interesting critique."
Posted by leftk @ 3:08 pm
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I understand your point, but I don't think we should underestimate the harm that Tim Russert and other MSM journalists have caused. They could have exposed the neocon/Zionist lies that led to US war crimes against Iraq. They could just as easily expose similar lies about Iran. Instead, MSM journalists actively promote the deceptions at every opportunity. If being an MSM journalist entails complicity in lies and war crimes, calling someone an ordinary MSM journalist is tantamount to calling them a liar and war criminal. Seems like an interesting critique to me.
Also, Russert's intentions don't seem very relevant. A collaborationist German press actively supported the Nazi Party in order to save Germany from communism and race pollution; good intentions by their lights.
A question I asked of Rachel Maddow the other day (still not answered) is still, I think, germane. Many in the media are saying Russert was alone at the top of the dogpile that is modern American political journalism, and are asking who will replace him?
My question is: Should he be replaced? Is it really a good idea to have just one person controlling what and who can be classified ias relevant and powerful and interesting to the people, or should there be a broader, deeper pool of actual journalists who build a real consensus of what is and isn't germane?
Russert pretty much defined the Beltway, and USan political journalism for many years, but he did so by becoming one with the mindset of the Beltway, which lessened him as a person, and quite probably sped his death. Just watching him, you could see the pressure he kept himself under, which added to many extra pounds was almost certainly a factor in his relatively early demise.
Those that knew him personally liked him, generally, regardless of political leanings, but that just isn't enough for a real journalist. I mourn his family's loss, but I mourn the nations' loss for his duplicity even more.
The strategy of the corporate sector to get the media off its back, and to drop the wall between the power structure and a press supposedly there to question power was not only to purchase networks directly, but also to make high profile journalists very, very wealthy ... to invite them to the corporate table in a sense.
Tom Brokaw, Russert's colleague at NBC (i.e., General Electric), and also a director of the Council on Foreign Relations, is, for many, the very face of corporate media. In his own words:
"We can't let that whole generation and a whole segment of the population just slide away out to the Internet and retrieve what information it wants without being in on it." - Tom Brokaw
"I ... believe strongly that the Internet works best when there are gatekeepers. When there are people making determinations and judgments about what information is relevant and factual and useful. Otherwise, it's like going to the rainforest and just seeing a green maze." -Tom Brokaw
"I think Jack Welch [CEO of General Electric, owner of NBC] is the smartest boss I ever had, and he signs my paychecks" -Tom Brokaw
While I agree with the main premise: the press isn't playing its fourth estate role; it's aligned itself with the powerholders, there is a good note I want to sound on behalf of Mr Russert.
Ralph Nader announced his candidacy on MTP. It was in 2004, I believe. Russert gave him about half his show that morning and the discussion was solid. Did any other mainstream media give Nader even that much time for the rest of his campaign?
Reposted from Nichols (Nation) piece of sycophnacy re Russert on 6/15:
I NOW believe in GOD - He has recalled one of his chief delinquants back home to begain his lesson at SQ 1. Russert was a willing propagandist through and through. His feigned ignorance of the facts was pure transparent sham to be lapped up by the semi-ignorant hordes. Russert was likely one of the MOST dangerous of Americans, since he apparently did his job so well based upon the litaney of testimonials to his "Godliness". He was in essence a disembling propagandist for the American Reich and quite happy with the perks that accompanied the position. He was SHAM thru & thru with just enough homespun feigned "outrage" to make himself appear credible to the deluded masses. How his death can be lauded as sooo significant while the deaths of upwards of 1M Iraqi's is talleyed as just "collateral damage" is pure OUTRAGE! If now only the hundereds upon hundreds of other worthless propagandists masquarading as journalists on the MSM couldfollow Russert's lead!!!
Daniel David,
Russert did a lot more. A lot more harm. A lot more disgrace. I am glad I never had the chance to be a suck up, kiss-ass, bullshitter like Russert. Maybe I would have sold out all that was good a decent in my life to be a media "star", too.
All I can do is my own little bit to speak the truth. Something that was missing on Sunday Mornings with Tim Russert.
And DD, you are such an easy target to bash. Please make it harder.
I have learned one thing, viewing the beatification of Russert and the reaction of the press to assertions made in Scott McClellan's book - they have no idea the contempt with which they are held. They are every bit as complicit as any member of Congress or the Executive for the sorry condition the United States currently finds itself. They seem oblivious that everyone knows this, even those that don't follow politics have caught on. And yet, the parade of self-adulation continues, undaunted.
Every time Russert's 'Meet the Press' was on and I tried to watch it, I ended up disgusted and angry at more of the slanted, propaganda that the entire TV 'news' empire is pumping out and I would quickly change the channel.
I'm sorry for Tim's family, but I really wish the whole TV network 'news' reporters would just rise up and say "I'M NOT GOING TO BE A PUPPET ANYMORE AND I'M GOING TO TELL THE REAL NEWS FOR ONCE!" because that's what it's going to take to get me to switch back.
Until then, keep talking to the air, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, FOX, etc. etc.
Because I don't think anyone with half a brain is listening to your crap anymore.
seedeevee and elmysterio would have TV shows of their own and would do it far more honestly to their own ways of thinking, if only they could get past the minor detail of somehow getting started. Tim Russert could and did. These two, who don't know any words except "b---s---" CAN'T AND DIDN'T. But they can bash ole DD. So that's where they find themselves. I think Tim did a lot more.
Gee, imagine the weeping, wailing, and knashing of teeth when Rush Limbaugh kicks the bucket. These media hacks think THEY are the news. I guess that's right...I do watch Robin Meade with the sound muted. Now, that's pulse-pounding journalism.
Since when is a multimillionaire employee of General Electric who asks questions (tough or not) a "journalist" or "reporter?" Russet was an interviewer slash talk show host - no different than Leno or Oprah. He was not breaking stories for McClatchy or conducting two-year long investigations into the Pentagon's forward message multipliers (many of whom Russert allowed free reign.)
He asked questions. That's it.
While I don't share the political views of Tim Russert, I think he was a good journalist (by MSM standards). Did he challenge conventional wisdom? Hell, no. But he did ask thoughtful questions that made his program more worthwhile than many shows on network TV. There was not a lot of pandering and idle speculation.
Unlike most of the folks on Commondreams, Tim Russert trusted the people who run our country. He could be critical, but he felt that America was overwhelmingly good in its intentions. This faith in America's goodness is precisely why so many Americans supported the war in the first place. I disagree with this complacent mindset, but do not feel that he was an active participant in a conspiracy to pull the wool over the eyes of ordinary Americans.
In short, I read Tristam's criticism as a statement that Tim Russert, a mainstream media journalist, was a mainstream media journalist. Hardly an interesting critique. More interesting questions revolve around the nature of knowledge/power, economics and their ability to create such blind consensus among the populus.
Not one major US journalist challenged the official Bush line on Iraq. Internet readers knew the "official line" was all lies and fabrications. Tim Russert was a smart man and therefore must also have known the truth, but he chose to be a good German and just go along. MSM journalists betrayed us, and continue to betray us. How many of them, with the exception of Helen Thomas, are telling the truth about Iran? They deserve no praise for their continuing complicity in crimes against humanity.
interesting...the truth is so easy to 'miss' and difficult to face...a journalist that is known for playing hard-ball, when just the opposite is fact...kind of like trying to stop turning the planet into toxic garbage, but without changing any personal behaviors regarding industry and consumption...or a promising representative who, once elected, does everything in their power to avoid representing their constituents in favor of corporate interests...we need to hold corporate heads personally accountable for the actions of the corporation...culpably accountable, as in cleanup, reconstruction, bankruptcy and JAIL...they are behind the government, directing activities...we need to abandon property ownership and the idea of jobs...the earth can no longer be for sale, nor can it be safely and wisely managed by individuals or groups of humans...there will be horrible fighting, for so much is at stake...we must anticipate needs and begin preparations...how do those who abhor violence and control battle those who thrive on it?
Daniel David: Man, I'm never surprised at that stupid things that you say here at Common Dreams... Take this quote for instance:
"But it counts far less against Tim Russert that his critics are more hiding in the anonynimity of blogging than any you can find standing up to bash him in public with their real names and faces on the line"
MOST people don't have access to any format that would let them criticize Russert in public by putting their 'names and faces on the line'... what a half-assed attempt at belittling people who question the integrity of Russert and his Meet the Press show. Now, if I had a national TV show, I'd be saying the Exact same things as the people here, but alas, I don't. Therefore, the only 'public' place that is available to us is the blogosphere.
Then you say "You can't do interviews with the power players of the world if you have a reputation for bias, trickery and one-upmanship"
That's bullshit. It should read "You can't do interviews with the power players of the world if you're going to push for TRUTH and ask tough questions". Russert does have a reputation for bias... he was biased towards the establishment and that is why he could get the high-ranking members of the evil empire on his show.
Use your brain Daniel... jeeze.
RE:
"5280 June 17th, 2008 1:08 pm
Turn-off the TV. If you can't, make it a point not to patronize their sponsors. Use the "cut-off" date to digital tv to cut-off your tv — for good. Don't watch them."
I second this idea to just let the tv die. Turn them off.
(But how democratic is that - no free tv anymore come Feb 09, just after the new prez takes the whitehouse?!)
BTW concerning this russert godlike mania on tv, it is satistfying to post on conservative blogs and sites for them to "Get over it." It makes me giggle. He was a political operative, not a journalist at all, and they know we all know this, and that what they are doing and saying is all a big lie. TV is a big lie.
Daniel David,
I call your bullshit.
Believe it or not, his critics are based in reality and are not figments of your imagination. This forum is in the public sphere. The "real"-ness of your media faces do not service any qualitative argument in favor of Russert. In fact, the cowardice of people like Russert, in carrying out the duties of a free press, continues to manifest itself in the self-pitying caricatures they have presented since Friday. It is dispicable. Russert was the chief clown in the Sunday Morning TV "News" Circus.
Tim Russert was a lucky man (financially) to be a figurehead in a disgraced profession (whatever tv talking heads consider their profession).
Once again, he was a terrible man for such an important position. He was a failure.
But, apparently, one nice father and son.
If anyone watches BBC World, check out Steven Sackur on HardTalk. If you want to see what a real interviewer does, watch him and that show. You'll never see American political interview shows in the same light again.
I will remember Russert as part of the iniside the belt way chorus puppeting the status quo line. Obviously, Russert was also a man deeply loved by friends and that says a lot. But he was a man deeply mired in the interests of the stauts quo and no amount of tribute will ever change that.
seedeevee,
Yes, I "read the posts here". But it counts far less against Tim Russert that his critics are more hiding in the anonynimity of blogging than any you can find standing up to bash him in public with their real names and faces on the line. I still say Tim was "well-spoken of" by nearly all (real people).
Thank you Mr. Tristam. I was being to rethink that I was wrong about Russert, but I wasn't. While I can mourn the loss of a younger man with talent, his talent did little to illuminate the issues of the day and did little to help the citizenry understand the consequences of the actions undertaken in their name. I will be "happy" on the day when the rest of the Russert type journalist are gone from our sites and our thoughts and our media.
I am glad this article was posted. Naturally my heart goes out to the Russert family (especially his son) as I unfortunately know just how hard it is to lose a parent early in life. With that being said, since Russert is receiving so much coverage in the media, we need to have an honest conversation about his contributions to journalism and avoid the hyperbole that is currently surrounding his legacy. I think this article does a good job of attempting this. There is also a good piece that is written at the following link regarding this issue as well. I encourage you all to check it out:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jun2008/russ-j16.shtml
Tim was a good guy--a company man in a company town.
Sadly, the company was up to no damn good!
I'm pleased to see that other bloggers are opening their eyes regarding Mr. Russert's real record.
Maybe after this phony, overextended public mourning of an overestimated reporter, the real McRussert will come out.
I'm re-posting comments I made two days ago:
Too much ado about a "journalist" and mere arriviste. Not enough hard questions, too much brown-nosing and water carrying for the right wing corporatists and sundry industrial complexes. A mediocre "professional" hiding behind the image of nice family man with a nostalgia for the working class roots. What a brilliant con for shoving lies down the electorate ears: here's a regular joe, the kind of guy you could have a beer with. Make your corporate mouthpiece likeable to the masses, add a halo or two, and you can make them swallow anything. Welcome to Disneyland.
I agree with a previous blogger: try being interviewed by some real journalist from the BBC or any other well-seasoned, educated European reporter. What can you expect from a failed educational system but some Pollyanas, ill-trained in analytical thinking or deep probing, and averse to the complexity of any issue?
As for the continual eulogies pouring out of the MSM for one of their "creations"—just another marketing technique by the men behind the curtain. It's a brilliant ploy to make us think that Mr. Russert's brand of "journalism" is the "high" bar by which to judge all other journalists. In other words: this is the best, don't expect much more, get used to it, and be happy.
Russert is being extensively covered by the MSM exactly because they want to "cover" his true record—or better yet, give him cover. By doing so, they are preempting any negative or critical assessment of this man's career. The coverage has been like a deluge of good press; any opposing story is obviously going to be suppressed—business as usual, by the MSM playbook. Makes you wonder how much they must have to hide. Those "men behind the curtain" of the MSM have a vested interest in not revealing the illusion. If we start deconstructing the quality or caliber of their newsmen/anchors, then all hell will break loose.
Gotta keep those advertisers happy
This article highlights the fact that as journalists deify Russert, to save "their brand" of pseudojournalism, they do so at their own peril, for the public knows the truth.
Daniel David,
"he is well-spoken of by nearly everyone" - Really!?
Did you read the posts here?
He was a terrible man for such an important position.
But, along with the downgrade of the "journalism" we get the upgrade of "Political/Media Deubutante Ball" that Meet the Press was and is. For that, he was a perfect host. Chris Matthews is the obvious replacement host for the Ball. No one else kisses ass in quite the same way that Russert and Matthews do (did).
I agree with the critique. And I agree with the mourning. Why mourn Russert? Because he is a person, and the death of any person is a tragedy for those close to him or her, and to many others.
Journalism has morphed into commericalism. Time we take it back for the real, rooted force it is! Who cares if the journalist isn't pretty and has crooked teeth -- what is central is in the power and pointedness of the questions. And, journalists should never be in bed or at the dinner tables of those in power. The wall that divides them serves democracy! Journalism and journaists are to be of an independent voice!
Why mourn him, Tristam? You point out how he subverted jounalism, enabled war and warmongery, enabled venality and corruption, and acted like a pissant ambush interviewer.
He has the blood of thousands on his hands for his failure to act like a real journalist. Good riddance. Too bad he died, but he should have been kicked out long ago.
Any journalist's death does not diminish me simply because I am involved in mankind; and therefore send to know for whom the bell tolls...
It tolls not for thee, but for Tim Russert, a cynical sycophant who refused to speak truth to power when he was most needed.
Turn-off the TV. If you can't, make it a point not to patronize their sponsors. Use the "cut-off" date to digital tv to cut-off your tv -- for good. Don't watch them.
It's true that Jon Stewart does a lot of clear exposure on the "Daily Show", but he does the best of it in the portions without the guests present. Tim Russert's format included having the guests there almost all the time. And that's a little different. You can't do interviews with the power players of the world if you have a reputation for bias, trickery and one-upmanship. Russert didn't and that's why he is well-spoken of by nearly everyone.
Look for NBC to change the format of "Meet the Press", not to try to exactly continue something that is now history.
Russert, sadly, was a patsy; a whore for the administration, and a poor excuse for a "journalist". He had excelent access to all of the war criminals, but always played along with the game, never asking really tough questions, while our soldiers were dying, and never asking any tough followup questions. He would never trade away his access to the big boys by corning then in any way. Always willing to accept the Bush/Cheney propaganda with a smiling face. A nice guy, certainly, but a fraud who did not serve his country when he could have, when it really counted.
Is Anne Coulter going to be the new moderator at "Press the Meat?" Or will it be Laura Ingraham or Michelle Malkin? After all, the liberal media must maintain its bias.
This would be a good time to bring back the "Meet the Press" of my childhood in the 1950's. In those days the show had not just one establishment yea-sayer, but a panel of several REAL JOURNALISTS to ask tough questions of the show's guest or guests. That was a show worth watching!
A media whore who will be replaced with another media whore.
Hoa binh
Meet the Press has been a phony mess for so long . . . .
"enable the fraud", indeed.
"members of the faith", indeed.
That church must be destroyed.