g-- d--- the neocon hypocrites who see Iraq and it's people as Babylon the Great is Falling. They need to look in the mirror. Hate forces itself on the hater.

Try to understand, people. The Iraqi refugee situation is actually a great humanitarian gesture by the beneficent and altruistic leaders of USA Incorporated. If they were left in their homeland, they and their children for generations to come would be subject to horrible DU-induced genetic mutations that were a necessary part of their equally humanitarian liberation.

Ain't freedom and democracy wonderful? The world anxiously awaits the next bestowal of magnificent generosity by its supreme benefactor.

This account is an absolutely clear call for action: Action to arrest both Bush and former prime minister Blair for crimes against humanity.

These so-called "liberated people" are now a thousand-fold worse off than under the tyrant Saddam Hussein.

WE CANNOT STAND BY AND WATCH THESE INNOCENTS SUFFER THIS VILE AND INHUMAN SITUATION A MOMENT LONGER!

Please among us let us create a meaningful action to save these people. and to drum up massive popular demand for indictments against those two monsters.

I stand to be counted.

Roger

Totally unexpected by the Bush militarist regime. Never study a culture you intend to destroy – at least that is their apparent secret belief. After all it worked in Vietnam - Not. People, we must start by disallowing military representation at the cabinet level. They are riding Bush and us Citizens around like squealing pigs. They must be made to bow low to Citizen rule or face the firing squad. Drive a stake through the hearts of these modern day Prussians who would destroy us from within like they did Germany.

Well our government is finally doing the same to their own. The Fed's have yet to show up in Iowa or Wisconsin. So the Mid-west is seeing how well we treat the rest of the world...Wonder how long before there is money to rebuilt here?

This articule reminds of the passenger ship,St.Louis, full of Jews, back in the late 30's trying to escape the Nazi's war on Jewish people in Germany. The enlightened West, namely, America, would not allow the ship to dock at one of our ports to allow these Jewish folks to disembark. The ship, after much time and trying to let folks off at other ports in the Western hemisphere had to return to Germany and the Jews were forced to return and await their fate in the camps of Auchwitz,Tremblika and Sobior.

I see we really haven't learned much in the years that have followed since!

having visited baghdad several times on business during the eighties, I remember that almost everybody had a job, ecxellent healthcare, clean water and working sewer. Gasoline was cheap and if any Iraqi followed the lines of the regime, they were doing pretty well, compared to say, Syria with new oil revenue coming in. Now, with the White House regime and the Brits having made a mess of it all, they are no longer interested - too worried about fighting self-made" terrorism. At least ther was no terrorism or al-qeuida in my days in Iraq. But to top it off _ what is the UN doing about it ? Are they more concerned about hypothetical nuclear weapons in Iran too just like the western nations? What about Israeli nuclear weapons - do the UN inspectors care about them? What kind of a world are we living in?

Isnt that just great. The US (under Dictator Bush) Invades Iraq, and now want to turn its back on them. What a joke, what did the US accomplish? besides losing a trillion dollars/ NOTHING! Way to go there Dictator Bush, way to go!

JT
http://www.FireMe.To/udi

I think America should move all the refugees into Red States. The replaced Bush voters can spend their retirement picking up clusterbombs.

So Bush administration has personally Underlined the Stament made by Ayatolah Komeini: 'The Whitehouse [Washington] is indeed The House of Satan" So now we have two forces against each other with a decisive and predictable outcome; USA and Britain against The World. Who is going to win? THE WORLD. The Britisch American Empire [the last empire], will be destroyed. These two gouvrnements will cease to exist. Peace will follow.

I have an idea.....let's create a country for the refugees, like we did for the Jewish Europeans after WWII. We could partition Israel - 55% for the refugees and 45% for the Israelis. That seems fair.

A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini is a great novel and makes very clear the human cost of the Iraq and Afghan conflicts.

THE JOKE OF THE CENTURY!
McCain says things are going well i++

`, it is negociating a long term contract for us to stay in their country.

When the death squads have finished their job, the US will start letting Iraqi "refugees" into the country. The US is a safe haven for war criminals from around the world.

Don't forget Luis Posada Carriles, recently free in Miami, capitol of war criminals in America. A convicted terrorist, but the Global War on Terrorism doesn't extend to Miami.

The west is not turning its back now. The west turned its back in 1991 when the "UN" sanctions went into effect. the deliberate, calculated destruction of Iraq's water treatment facilities, combined with a draconian blockade resulted in the deaths of a million Iraqi children. Did the west Know about it? they had to- it was a u.s. thing under the cover of the U.N. Did they ever try to stop it? they did not.

Bush and Cheney and Rice and Rumsfeld and Blair and all of the perpetrators of the invasion and occupation of Iraq do know about these things. They just do not care. If the removal of Saddam Hussein really was the objective then our forces could have left long ago and people could have their homes and argue among themselves and rebuild their tortured land. But the forces did not leave and the citizens had to. They were displaced, scattered, fled to unknown parts of the country or to other countries ... and there is no plan of effort worth mentioning to restore these displaced persons to their homes. These are criminal acts. Do most Americans know what we have done? Do ordinary people care and if they do, where is the vaunted kindness of Americans? Where is the lauded Christian charity? Not in sight because Bush and his minions continue to say these are bad people or they deserve all this. The rest of the world knows better.

According to Niall Ferguson, Scottish historian and consultant to John McCain in a recent debate on CBC, Radio 1, the American aggression against Iraq is only a minor historical blip compared the Vietnam War. This article gives the lie to that outrageous assertion. In terms of total deaths, both Iraqi and American, the numbers may not have reached the staggering proportions of Indochina where millions of men, women and children perished. But the scale of human dislocation - close to 5 millions internal and external refugees - is unprecedented in post-war history. I'm not surprised that Sweden which has already accepted some 30 000 refugees has now begun to turn away new refugee claimants; nor I am surprised that the perpetuators of the war have largely turned their backs on the millions of displaced Iraqis.

I hope Kucinich added this human catastrophe to his list of indictments against Bush.

TO OUTSIDER; YOU AR JUST WHAT WE NEED, ANOTHER ANTI-SEMITIC ASSHOLE WITH THE INTELLIGENCE AND BRAIN OF A MICROBE!

Would everyone PLEASE stop thinking the government is going to bail us out of this mess. They cannot. They will not.

We have allowed this to get to this point.

I now realize that the r-e-v-o-l-u-t-i-o-n-a-r-i-e-s are right. They know that there is only one way corruption this deep, this intense is uprooted.

I cannot go there. I am a pacifist. I cannot do anything. My hands are tied.

The difference is now I believe them. I believe what they know is true.

We are bystanders now. We have been sucked into the hole. We can no longer fight the good fight. I cannot help the refugees. As I sit in my air conditioned home plucking away at keys I do nothing. I am of no help. I march, I write letters, I feed a few homeless here and there, I talk to anyone who will listen. I cannot fathom what the refugees must be living. I do nothing to help.

I have seen the future though. We are headed on a collision course with destiny. We will not do enough. We can do nothing now compared to the spiral. Except wait. It is occurring and won't be long but now we wait.

George Bush still occupies the WH. 42% of this nation plans to vote for John McCain. 42%. And we still do nothing.

I am remorseful for this nation. For the world. My neighbors know nothing. They care less. I want someone to write me, tell me their neighbors are aware. That lots and lots of their neighbors in their communities are taking in the refugees.

Convince me it is not as I see it.

civil society at bellsouth.net

@Tsunami June 15th, 2008 5:27 pm

Perhaps this joke wins second place:- I just had to share this gem from Bush's mouth in an interview to "The Observer", UK Yesterday 15th June. See if you can spot any dishonesty:-

QUOTE
He remained, he (GW Bush) said, convinced that Iraq, and the world, was a better place without Saddam Hussein. And he said that while 'Presidents don't get to do re-dos' on issues such as Saddam's lack of weapons of mass destruction, there was one lesson from the run-up to the Iraq war that he felt was hugely relevant to the standoff in Iran.

'We didn't realise, nor did anyone else,' Bush said, 'that Saddam Hussein felt like he needed to play like he had weapons of mass destruction. It may have been, however, that in his mind all this was just a bluff … that the world wasn't serious.'
UNQUOTE

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/15/georgebush.usa

Is Bush telling the truth? Did Saddam really claim to be armed with WMD? My memory is poor, but not quite that poor.

@outsider June 15th, 2008 4:36 pm

I see the point you are making. No, we had no right to do that in the first place. So we have no right to do it a second time.

civil behavior:

In re: "WE have allowed this to get to this point"

What's this WE crap?

FYI:
Whenever politicians, CEOs, et al., have shirked their responsibilities, or when they committed crimes, they always choose the old reliable standby word WE in a vain attempt to a) simultaneously spread guilt about, and b) gain symnpathy...

You may not believe this, but whenever people, such as yourself, apply WE in any context, you become a willing pawn in their schemes to defraud the public! Examples: Korean and Vietnam "Wars," S&L scam, Katrina, Subprime loan(sharking) and mortgage theft, 9/11...

Hello people.
There is a direct opportunity to begin to help the millions of displaced Iraqis in Jordan and Syria. Check out the grassroots movement at .
Also works in Iraq with displaced Iraqis or those in very challenging situations. There are ways ,though small for the great need, to begin people to people connections and assistance, even though our governments aren't ready yet for this work.

"We didn't realise, nor did anyone else,' Bush said, 'that Saddam Hussein felt like he needed to play like he had weapons of mass destruction."

this is completely unnaceptable incompetence from a leader with the all the intelligence resources of the western world at his disposal...

you might accept it if he had merely imposed sanctions on this belief...but to go to war....no...not good enough...

even if you were to accept his statement as justification..you would then have to accept that every single dollar/pound/franc/euro etc etc spent on intelligence was completely and utterly wasted..and that one may as well just roll a dice to decide such decisions..

even if not one person had died as a result it would still be unnaceptable..given the hideous death toll ..it is beyond words..

given that the world will still be paying for this willfull incompetence in a hundred years time...if we survive the domino effect this has put into motion
..yet still he does not stop....

ye gawds a policeman who mistakenly shoots a member of the public comes under more serious scrutiny.. with potentaily more serious personal consquences than this..

unbelievable.. National Security?? non existant..

Diablo,

I respectfully disagree.

We (in my post)are the people of this nation. If We cared about the suffering on this planet We would have taken action a long time ago. We would have understood and accepted that our part in this collapse was the assumed entitlement that We somehow were a greater nation than the whole.

We continue to assume, support and emulate the elites and deny that our ways are some of the most destructive of man.

Your denial of your complicity is not unusual. As I said We do nothing. We have been pampered and are continuing our pimped lifestyles hanging on by a thread but hanging on. What do you think all the calls to our dear leaders are about in reference to yes, now we want drilling in the pristine wilderness. All this after decimating a country to get to their resources.

You are right about one thing. We are their pawns. But We made that choice. We decided to risk all that We could have been for all that they said We should be. We weren't so deceived by them as we were content with receiving some of the crumbs.

Their game was simply better than our own. Our lust to join them in their con game was ours alone. Buck up, we bought the chips at the table, we gambled and lost. We own all the losses.

America has no moral or ethical right of any kind to turn its back on these people. We created this situation-if anybody "out there" needs to pick up the slack, it's us.

Roger Carter,

I too wish Bush and Cheney could be arrested for their many crimes against Humanity.

The problem is they are still in office so they are protected by all the military forces who will use any means to keep them safe.
Impeachment is the only legal way to get them out of office but the congress is so far afraid of being labeled unpatriotic.

This is what war does to folks...creates Fear the Fear to do the right thing.. I am sure you know this well.
Maybe when they leave office they will not be so protected... not sure but at least justice may come... justice is always slow and always comes after the crimes if it ever does come but better late than never Eh?

Keep singin,
Jim Glover

it's too bad you're not illegal immigrant mexicans, my innocent iraqi friends - you'd have aid coming out of your butts without even trying. were you our next door neighbors to the united states, the hypocritical american government would treat you differently, i've no doubt.

security, my appendage.

Rockin Rob, you are a racist bigot. Opposition to Israel does not mean anti-semitism. Loud obnoxious people like you will ensure there is never any fair-minded discussion of the creation of Israel and why the ruthless manner in which that was done has repercussions to this day.

Zionism is not Judaism http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

Anti-zionism is no more anti-semitism than anti-Salafism is Islamphobia. Get that through your thick head.