If I may, a re-post from a previous article from "Turce"

Today after a bunch of us from Veterans for Peace met with John Conyers to deliver petitions from 10's of thousands we went and met with Dennis at the Capital Bldg, he explained what occurred. He made apriveleged Resolution for Impeachment, this must be sent directly to Committees. He is giving them 30 days to review, if they do not reply in kind he will bring it to the floor , he is giving us the exact calender date next week, again but this time it will contain 60 Articles, if same occurs again with 90, again with 120….
He will not stop until our Constitution is adhered to regarding Impeachment , again reminding all of the system of checks and balances. He has asked us to urge this Nation to call their Congressperson, make sure to urge them to read all35 Articles and consume the meaning, give them 30 days , ask their position, if ambivalent ask them to read again and remind them of their oath to uphold the Constitution and to not Impeach is in direct violation of their oath of office. Call Pelosi and be respectful yet firm in urging Congressman Conyers that this is a matter of our nation not allowing their leaders to become more like that of an oligarchy which our forefathers needed to be upheld, they no longer wanted a King ergo checks and balances.
Repeat all steps until we do it. Go to Dennis's site to find out more.
We have another meeting scheduled within the next few weeks with Congressman Conyers where he promised to share his intent on the matter of Impeachment.
should be stuff on YouTube and The Real News by tomorrow.

Go!

How we got here... and why:

http://www.zcommunications.org/blog/view/1589

Dennis is one of the very few in Congress
who deserves our respect.

I want him to be our President.

Truth. Simple truth.

I heard it said some years ago -- that the U.S. is clearly living in an age where disillusion would be a great part of life. Disillusion was defined as the process by which the illusions under which we have been programmed to live --peel away like the layers of skin of an onion. It's damned confronting.

Mass media plays such a role in shaping how we frame and see things -- including serving as the enablers and cheerleaders of the grand illusions that wash the criminal sins of militarism used by presidents, kings and queens in their relentless quests for power and conquest. Whoever owns or controls a society's storytellers gets to shape reality. So much for an independent press that nourishes independent thinking. So much for questions. We still sit too content with the answers thrust upon us.

The power players simply trade hats as they have always done -- but the plots and destructive means at their disposal grow more grim for the rest of us.

As Barbara Tuchman best summarized, it's all the endless, human "March of Folly."

There are no statute of limitations on murder! Let the tribunal come together to put the complicit in Congress on notice and trial for war crimes along with the initiators.

"The Power Players Simply Trade Hats."

"Operation Paperclip" was the redocumentation of Nazi War Criminals and bringing them into the United States to work on CIA and Department of Defense Projects including the CIA Torture and Brainwashing Projects of the 50's and 60's. Also, the head of Nazi Intelligence, Reinhard Gehlen, was brought into the CIA family. Also, men like Dieter Schenk, German Federal Police, and Paul Dickopf, who rose to be President of Interpol, were both allegedly Nazi War Criminals.

The "Power Elite" make all the decisions.

Who formed the Islamic Militant Terrorist Force of today? How easily we have forgotten the "Truth". The CIA of the United States and the ISI of Pakistan recruited 100,000 Islamic Militants (Mercenaries) from 43 Islamic Nations in the 80's. Saudi Arabia and the United States ptovided over 12 billion dollars and this force was trained, equipped, and supported through the 90's. (Operation Cyclone)

Gore Vidal has never been given a forum to speak from to all the American People because he is a threat to the "Power Elite".......His books are read but not by the masses.

Congress and The Administration are both Guilty of "War Crimes" and "Crimes against Humanity".....

Hang 'em High!

We are watching the slow motion Fall of Rome.

But this time, there will be no Renaissance after this dark age...

Kucinich is just a clown, but Vidal is a world-class hater.

Chiclayo is a clown. Dennis is the best congressman we have.

Gore I am in Italy and would love to meet you if you are still here! Google Baruch's Blog and email me...

Great article...!

Chiclayo believes that Dennis Kucinich is a "clown" and that Gore Vidal" is a "world-class hater". Apparently if any Americans dare to seek out the truth and to criticize the government, then they earn the wrath of chiclayo. I submit that this country needs more clowns and world-class haters like Kucinich and Vidal [and Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky, et al] and less of Bush, Cheney and the rest of the super patriots who rule this country. Perhaps just another example of how people like chiclayo seem to relish worshiping at the altar of American militarism.

The fact that this story made the headlines in France and Ireland and Germany etc. actually does more harm than good. The affect is this. At home within their borders they see this legitimate earth shattering news and assume that it is so here in the US as well. So when nothing happens and Bush remains in office, foreign hatred for Americans festers because they say to themselves "how could Americans keep this despot in power". It is the same syndrome that occured during WWII with Germany. There was a media blackout there, and the German citizens only believed what Hitler's propaganda ministers told them and the rest of the world was thinking how could the citizens of Germany not know what was happening. Well now the shoe is on the other foot isnt it?

The last time I was vacationing in Grand Cayman, where people from all over the world gather, it was astonishing to find out how everyone else from countries all over the world knew more about what was going on in the US then its own citizens. I was chatting with people at dinner who were asking me questions like "arent proceedings going to take place to remove Bush from office due to the fraudulent elections? "

On one hand its a good thing to watch the BBC world news and find out exactly what is going on in the world, but when they report on the US it only furthers the hatred for us as citizens from other countries are left to only scratch their heads. And it gets worse with our seemingly ineffectual congress, the foreigners dont understand that they are bought off and are in the pocket of the Bush Crime Family to just go through the motions and take no action.

Kucinich is a true patriot. Even if Bush were impeached the day before he left office this would send a message to the next president--republican or democrat--to adhere to the Constitution or be held to account.

Thank you, Mr. Vidal, for a concise and honest look at what should have been top billing in the American Media- mainly- the proposed impeachment of the two most powerful people in American government.

That the event wasn't covered by any media sources in America proves that our nightly 'news' isn't even worth looking at anymore.

I deeply hope that Mr Kucinech and his supporters somehow are able to make it stick this time- and if not, I hope he never gives up on holding those responsible for the major damage to our consitution accountable for what they've done.

Chiclayo

If Kucinich is a clown and Vidal is a "world class hater" (whatever that means), then what does that make Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc?

"Don't be the right wing, don't be the left wing, wouldn't you rather be the brain?"

Withdrwan Consent

NIce article from Gore Vidal, who has apparently forgotten that he was complicit in the outcome of the 2000 election by a seemingly bitter (jealous?) refusal to support his distant cousin Al Gore. Damning his book 'Earth in the Balance' with faint praise, stating that he cared not a whit if Nader's entrance into the election caused Bush to win, saying that Bush and Gore were equivalent, then saying with lazy arrogance that Gore would certainly win.

Insightful? Prescient? I don't think so.

chiclayo June 12th, 2008 2:11 pm
Kucinich is just a clown, but Vidal is a world-class hater.

Oh, a man of high integrity that missed 1 vote in the past 2 sessions because he joined a protest is a clown? Your use of the English language is indicative of a teenager. When I looked into Dennis Kucinich's eyes yesterday I saw determination, integrity, humanity and intelligence you cannot comprehend. If a clown is by definition someone that makes many happy then I suppose Dennis does that. Per chance have you read all 35 Articles with their explaination and documentation of the violations in a 65 page document??? I thought not. What are the Vote Calls for Kucinich? What bills has he sponsored? which part of the Constitution, BILL OF RIGHTS, Geneva Convention, UN Charter, the 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause,Amendment IV of the Bill of Rights, Article.II.Section.3. of the Constitution, violated the Posse Comitatus Act,Misleading Congress and the American People @ Threats fom Iran, violating the Fourth Geneva ConventionArticle 3 of CAT, Article 7 of ICCPR, Article12 of the Third Geneva Convention , Violation of the Constitution, US Law, the Geneva Convention, violation of basic human rights by use of Torture, Violation of Article.VI. of the Constitution, Article 12 of the Geneva Covention, Section 1222 of the National defense Authorization Act, Violation of U.S. Code, Title 18, Part1, Chapter118, section 2441, violation of Un Charter, Chapter 7, article 51, as well as Chapter 1, Article 2, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11, Failed to meet requirements of HJRes 114 and requirements of the War Powers Resolution, and so much more, real clown, huh???? Chew on this, foolish perpetrator of ignorance and misinformation.

If Chiclayo was even to be taken seriously he would be the explanation for how there are still 30% of Americans who are approving of Bush.

The only way I see this as possible is to live in a part of the world with no T.V., Internet, Radio, Magazines, Books, etc. Or basically must have an I.Q of less than the weight of a single grain of sand.

The fact that you won't hear about this on any MSM outlets lets you know the country is headed in a place that we will regret dearly.

Time to move to a new country with healthcare, better roads, 35 hour work weeks, longer maternity leave, way longer vacations, people that will rise up for injustice, Public transportation, healthy food, before the Airline industry falls completely and the Gov't takes over and adds another couple million to that DNFL (Do Not Fly List)

Hey, I think the lid is coming off. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of Fascist christian businessmen, media magicians, and jewish neo-con's.

I agree with Scroller, we need to make clear to whoever follows in the White House that they solemnly swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Not to their party, not to their idiology, but to defend the Constitution.

Thankfully, 5 members of the Supreme Court remember that.

Gore could have helped himself by letting Jesse Jackson stage protests about the stealing of the black vote.
Better yet, Gore could have voted for an investigation into the fraud.All they needed was one senator to support it.

He didnt.

Gore is responsible for Bush.

Thanks Al.

I just called the St. Louis Post Dispatch the newspaper that I subscribe to. I called the news department and asked where in the paper I could find the articles of impeachment filed against President Bush. I was politely told that I would probably have to go to the Foreign News to get that information !!!

This shyt is deeper than we think !

Electing your 2009 liberal government is far more important than impeaching the last one for a trial by a Senate that will not (indeed cannot) convict a Republican.

There is no debate here about how bad Bush and Cheney are.
They're BAD. But unless you achieve a result, a new liberal government, you are peeing into a strong wind that is going to leave you wet and wondering why.

"As I listened to Rep. Kucinich invoke the great engine of impeachment — he listed some 35 crimes by these two faithless officials — we heard, like great bells tolling, the voice of the Constitution itself speak out ringingly against those who had tried to destroy it."

Excellent description. Kucinich is profoundly wise. His use of the words of the Constitution repeated over and over rang like a bell to awaken the people to that part of moral perfection deep inside them. It's there. Wake up, people. You've gotten used to corruption and darkness. Now---here is the light. Remember?

Kucinich will go down in history as a brave patriot who stood up virtually alone for his country. Vidal is right, this is the most important motion made in Congress in the 21st Century -- because there won't be any more 'Congress' if they don't listen to Kucinich. No more civilian government. This is their last chance.

Daniel David, you only piss yourself when you fail to confront power with truth.

re 3:34pm

wrong as usual. impeachment is a necessary first step in protecting ourselves and our families from terrorist retribution for the monstrous crimes of cheney/bush. it's a necessary first step in restoring the rule of law, especially the writs of habeas corpus and mandamus. it's a necessary first step toward revitalizing our constitution and bill of rights which, however racist and sexist and classist their origins, are still viable blueprints for a functioning democracy.

and electing a full slate of Duhs is no guarantee of even one real liberal's taking office (see results of nov. 2006).

Whoa! whoa! whoa! - everybody !!!!!!

Have you not heard that Kucinich voted with the 166 Democrats to move the bill to committee !!!! And with nary an explanation to anybody !!! Just what kind of game is Kucinich playing?

He should have loudly explained his action or at least "abstained" from the vote.

I read one account that said that he voted "against" his own resolution to impeach.

And how come Gore Vidal leaves that out of his article?

Is there no limit to the deception we have to put up with in American politics?

This is slightly off-subject, but it's something I've been wanting to post for some time now.

I read articles from several different progressive sites including CommonDreams, Alternet, Huffington Post, The Nation, and others on a daily basis. Like many other posters, I have criticized, complained about formats, wondered at some of the choices of articles, and sometimes responded with a certain vehemence to other liberals who might have had a different point of view. I have also congratulated, agreed with, and cheered both posters and authors.

For some posters, the views are not liberal or progressive enough. For others, they are too extreme. Sometimes - especially at Alternet - there are many readers who express contempt at the frivolity of too much focus on interpersonal human relationships or other complaints. There are those who object to the whole idea of belonging to one of the major parties and are quick to disparage Democrats who maintain their affiliation with entrenched power. And some hard-core Democrats may see third party candidates or members as spoilers and malcontents.

But in spite of differences, quibbling, and heated discussions, what is really important is the very existence of these newsworthy sites. People can actually find real, in-depth news that diverges from the corporate media. Thoughtful coverage of gender issues, health care, race relations, political malfeasance, under-reported bravery, and an entire host of subjects are available to anyone with a minimal ability to search the 'net. This is an amazing development, and it serves to keep people informed in a way that few other venues do.

So, no matter what ideological branch you come from - even the wingnut trolls who serve to keep us remembering how totally loopy and batshit nuts people can actually be - thanks to those who develop and maintain the progressive sites and to all posters for caring enough to share your ideas. So many thoughtful people respond to the various wonderful articles, provide links to even more information, and offer insight. This is a great thing, even more so because we don't always agree.

And, last but not least, Kucinich is a true American hero. His efforts at impeachment, far from being a futile pissing in the wind, are important statements about what our country is supposed to stand for and has not for a very long time.

If we don't impeach them in time, then we must try them as civilians. Corporate America will begin its all out assault on our due process to ensure that these madmen never face justice in a court of law. Already corporate media it pretending that this isn't happening preferring to inundate our TV's, radio's and news print with tales of corporate take overs (Google this, Yahoo that...)the latest tornado victims (without the global warming connection of course!) and gruesome 'body parts for sale' stories.

RichM, ever demanding something moronic with great fanfare, fails to remind you that impeachment cannot (CAN NOT) succeed with a conviction. Even Kucinich knows this, but RichM plows onward into the abyss of know-nothingness, now calling Dennis a fake.

Dennis is not a fake. He is a realist. You can talk the impeachment for publicity of the crimes, but you cannot actually get a conviction.

Now meanwhile, win your darn election while you still can.
It's all that matters this year. It's ALL you can get.

PLEASE base your decisions on voting records as well as on the Constitution, which I confess we need more reading of: ACTION ALWAYS SPEAKS MUCH MORE THAN WORDS!!

PLEASE base your decisions on voting records as well as on the Constitution, which I confess we need more reading of: ACTION ALWAYS SPEAKS MUCH MORE OF THE TRUTH THAN WORDS!!

LeeAnnG says:

"Kucinich is a true American hero. His efforts at impeachment, far from being a futile pissing in the wind, are important statements about what our country is supposed to stand for and has not for a very long time."

I certainly have always felt that way about Kucinich - but why did he vote to bury his impeachment resolution in (the traitor)John Conyers' Juduciary Committee? Why did he not abstain and thereby prevent CNN from claiming that "he voted against his own measure"

Unfortunately for the citizens of the USA, the world judges US citizens by the actions taken (or not taken) by its Congress.

So the world sees an entire country protecting its Executive Criminals.

And sees you all as despotic criminals by association.

and you wonder why shit like 911 happens???

finally America (USA) is shaking itself free of the state of shock it has been in since September 11, 2001 ... now that it has happened, the darkness will be shattered by light ... there will always be danger: just look at the environment the Founding Fathers had to work and fight in to bring the USA into being in the first place ... Al Gore covered this and much more in his book The Assault on Reason ...

when we finally really open our eyes and accept why George W Bush and company dragged the countries to war we are going to be really unhappy with ourselves for ever having allowed it to happen ... but, with realization comes freedom and as long as we are breathing it is not too late to stop and repair the damages ... the process is under way ...

rejoice .................

Jeeve June,

Agreed 'action always speaks much more of the truth than words!!'. I was going to vote Democratic this election, but after reading Common Dreams and reflecting on the actions of the current presidential candidates, I find I have no choice but to vote for Nader in '08. Among the available choices, only his actions have consistently benefited the American public. For somebody who grew up passing out Democratic pamphlets at twelve years old, and working on Democratic campaigns for years, its a sad thing, but a necessary thing. The Democratic party is as damaging to the commonwealth as the Republicans.

I look forward to a petition I can sign to urge Congress to impeach these criminals. Meanwhile I will write my "representatives" to so urge.

The sleeping masses are finally being aroused. Meanwhile my local paper had a small article about Bush admitting that while Iraq was a mistake, he is considering an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

Impeachment now is a duty whether he is sucessfully removed or not.

https://secure2.convio.net/pepib/site/ConsProfileUser?JServSessionIdr009=v5ec5pnup4.app1b.......

For Awaken 4:57 PM

Rene,

Good for you! We welcome you with open arms. Nader in '08!

Gore Vidal is a lone voice in the wilderness. I think there are about four or five honest politicians in the entire Congress and Senate - Senator Robert Byrd, Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Lee, Barbara Boxer and a handful of others. Last year I heard former Pentagon military officer and State Dept. diplomat, Ann Wright say she spoke with John Conyers and Harry Reid and they said they caved in and will not be seeking impeachment proceedings anymore because "getting re-elected was more important to him".

Our republic is in peril, democracy is in peril - the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence has been shit on like a piece of toilet paper.

Nancy Pelosi is a fucking soggy wet pile of putrid mush. It is Pelosi who is BLOCKING IMPEACHMENT - for the most part, Pelosi has done nothing but RUBBER STAM 90% of Bush's legislation since the day she took office as Speaker of the House.

Gore Vidal - will you save a place for me at your villa in Italy? I am a 14th generation American - my ancestors emigrated from Wales in 1740, fought in Colonial Maryland Revolutionary Militia as Minute Men - but I am heartsick about the rape of the republic. Immigration is looking more like a viable prospect.

Gore, if you are out there in cyberspace somewhere - I will be your handmaiden and humble servant - I am half Italian (Friulani from Udinay) and would gladly emigrate back to my ancestral home. Aty least in Italy, they uphold and defend their republic. Here in America, we are a nation of somnabullists - sleepwalking in a societal, collective coma.

Americans are far more interested in who is the father of Brittney Spears latest out-of-wedlock little rugrat, Americans care more about Lindsey Lohan's latest meltdown and who will win American Idol. If 76% of Americans want an immediate end to the war - and Bush has a 78% disapproval rating - WHY HASN'T this obscene, genocidal, illegal war ENDED and why hasn't the Bush/Cheney/Rove Crime regime been impeached and sentenced to life in prision at Guantanamo?

Because Americans are a nation of complacent, narcissistic FUCKWITS.

Keep Hope Alive,

Grailmaiden
Colleen Whalen
The People's Republic of Sacramento, California

Does anyone have a link for detailing the individual votes to move the resolution on?

John C June 12th, 2008 3:57 pm
Whoa! whoa! whoa! - everybody !!!!!!

Have you not heard that Kucinich voted with the 166 Democrats to move the bill to committee !!!! And with nary an explanation to anybody !!! Just what kind of game is Kucinich playing?

He should have loudly explained his action or at least "abstained" from the vote.

I read one account that said that he voted "against" his own resolution to impeach.

And how come Gore Vidal leaves that out of his article?

Is there no limit to the deception we have to put up with in American politics?

John C June 12th, 2008 4:24 pm
LeeAnnG says:

"Kucinich is a true American hero. His efforts at impeachment, far from being a futile pissing in the wind, are important statements about what our country is supposed to stand for and has not for a very long time."

I certainly have always felt that way about Kucinich - but why did he vote to bury his impeachment resolution in (the traitor)John Conyers' Juduciary Committee? Why did he not abstain and thereby prevent CNN from claiming that "he voted against his own measure.

ONE MORE TIME, OKAY? Read what happened to us with our meetings yesterday, please.

Yesterday, 6/11 @ about 11:30 pm EST I said....
Today after a bunch of us from Veterans for Peace met with John Conyers to deliver petitions from 10's of thousands we went and met with Dennis at the Capital Bldg, he explained what occurred. He made apriveleged Resolution for Impeachment, this must be sent directly to Committees. He is giving them 30 days to review, if they do not reply in kind he will bring it to the floor , he is giving us the exact calender date next week, again but this time it will contain 60 Articles, if same occurs again with 90, again with 120….
He will not stop until our Constitution is adhered to regarding Impeachment , again reminding all of the system of checks and balances. He has asked us to urge this Nation to call their Congressperson, make sure to urge them to read all35 Articles and consume the meaning, give them 30 days , ask their position, if ambivalent ask them to read again and remind them of their oath to uphold the Constitution and to not Impeach is in direct violation of their oath of office. Call Pelosi and be respectful yet firm in urging Congressman Conyers that this is a matter of our nation not allowing their leaders to become more like that of an oligarchy which our forefathers needed to be upheld, they no longer wanted a King ergo checks and balances.
Repeat all steps until we do it. Go to Dennis's site to find out more.
We have another meeting scheduled within the next few weeks with Congressman Conyers where he promised to share his intent on the matter of Impeachment.
should be stuff on YouTube and The Real News by tomorrow.

This is why I have supported Kucinich financially through two presidential campaigns, knowing both times that he had zero chance at the nomination, and yet did not feel my money was wasted.

This is why I'll do it again.

Wouldn't it be nice if, say, tomorrow, or Monday, another Congressman grew K-balls and introduced articles of impeachment against... can they get Condi? Or new AIs for Decider and Dick, listing, say, 35 of the other crimes against Americans they've committed?

Or, for those Congressman from the old school: it's time to play "Pile On," if, for no other reason, to needle them until they snap.

it's the multinationals, stupid. bush and cheney are just lackies.

What's sad about all of this is that Bush will go, like the article pointed out, his full term as president unscathed and untouched. This is what irritates me. This could have been done some time ago but our chickenshit congress has let it come this far and now G.W. Bush sees the exit door clearly in view. Is Bush STILL laughing at us?

Oooookay.... I'm with you fellas.

pennerblu,

Bush and Cheney will walk out of the White House flipping us the "bird." That is why we cannot let them get away with commiting war crimes without prosecution. The day those two go to prison is the day I will throw a huge party and everyone who posts on CD is invited!