$4.00 per Gallon Gasoline and Climate Change Both Call for the Same Solution: Collective Investment in Clean Energy
"What do you have to say about global warming to the whole segment of Americans who are just waking up to energy issues with $4.00 per gallon gasoline?"
That question came from the audience during a workshop on climate change I led recently.
There is an assumption behind this question, one that seemed to be everywhere I turned last week -- in the press, on talk radio, and even on the floor of the US Senate. The assumption goes like this: now that energy prices are rising we can't afford to charge the costs of greenhouse gas pollution because that would place an unacceptable burden on people already struggling to meet high energy costs.
That was Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell's argument in the debate leading up to the defeat of the Climate Security Act last week. "At a time when the economy is struggling, when the price of gas, food and power bills are skyrocketing, this giant tax would be an unbearable new burden for Americans."
The tax McConnell refers to is the cap and trade system the bill proposed, which would have given companies financial incentive to reduce their global warming pollution.
Any economist will tell you that markets only serve us when they include all the costs of a good or service. We are on the edge of climate catastrophe because our energy markets have failed us in the past. They have not charged the costs of preventing climate change or the costs of repairing the damage it causes. This failure might have been understandable in the days before the scientific consensus that climate change is real and that human greenhouse gas production is its cause. But today leading climate scientists are telling us that we have already exceeded safe levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Knowing what we know and allowing our energy markets to favor oil, coal, and natural gas over clean alternatives is like knowing that tobacco causes lung cancer and promoting smoking in public buildings.
The Climate Security act -- while not going far enough to ensure a safe climate -- would have been a first step towards correcting this failure of our energy markets by rewarding those industries and technologies that deliver more of what people need with less greenhouse gas pollution.
Senator McConnell implied a conflict between the interests of ordinary people and the opportunity to fix this market failure, a conflict between our daily needs and the requirements of the biosphere that is the ultimate provider for those needs. Fortunately for us, McConnell and those he speaks for put forth a false choice.
Americans don't "need" cheap gas and electricity. We need only what they have come to provide -- affordable, convenient ways to get to work in the morning, ways to get around our communities, access to food we can afford that is good for our bodies and our children, homes that are comfortable, activities that interest us and make a difference.
In most communities in America it is hard to meet these needs without using fossil fuels, lots of them. That is not the result of any inherent American need for fossil energy but because we are still trying to get by in a society that has not invested in an infrastructure for meeting needs in other ways. Most of our cities and towns are still waiting for safe bike lanes, walkable neighborhoods, sustainable farms, clean efficient train systems, distributed electricity generation from solar and wind, super-efficient appliances, and revitalized local economies. Those alternatives could help us meet our daily needs while respecting our other needs because we also need sea levels that don't inundate our cities, drinking water that doesn't dry up in droughts, weather systems that don't produce deadly storms, and a climate suitable for growing our staple crops.
The incentives of the Climate Security Act would have helped create the clean energy economy we need. For those burdened citizens to whom McConnell refers so passionately the legislation's defeat means a prolonged period of burden, a longer wait for the emergence of alternatives. New legislation with the potential to jump-start a clean energy economy will not be considered until after the next President is elected. Meanwhile fossil energy prices appear likely to stay high and we still lack a coherent national plan that offers ways to get to work or school, heat our homes and feed our families without costing more than we or the only planet we will ever have can afford to pay.
It's enough to make you wonder how deeply Senator McConnell is worried about my family's challenges, or yours, and whether or not his deeper concern might lie with the needs of the fossil fuel industry, which, rumor has it, is still a powerful force in his home state of Kentucky and in Washington D.C.
Elizabeth R. Sawin is the co-director of Sustainability Institute's Our Climate Ourselves program and is a writer, teacher, and systems analyst who lives with her family as part of an intentional community and organic farm in Hartland, Vermont. More of her writing on climate change and other sustainability topics can be found here.
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Show All"In this day and age, fewer and fewer of us have extra money or own homes."
Actually home ownership was recently at all time high.
Herbalist - do-it-yourself is OK for those with property and extra $$$. It is a part of a solution.
In this day and age, fewer and fewer of us have extra money or own homes. As prices rise and the national wealth is directed to the top 1% in so many different ways, we have to take back control of our governmental spending.
We already pay lots of money in taxes. Tax money should be used as we wish and for our long term needs as a nation and as world citizens. That means investing in alternate energy startups rather than investing in war to fight over the ever dwindling fossil fuel supply.
Why in the world do we need government unless it is to help us administer projects that are too large for individuals? Right now government is engaged in transferring wealth from most of us to their friends, like Blackwater, Halliburton corrupt bankers and munitions makers and in changing laws to support such robbery. That is unacceptable.
I also invite anyone interested in the subject of population to read
THREE LITTLE FACTS AND THE END OF THE WORLD
by Bill Bonner
at www.dailyreckoning.com
Thats true Andrew. World Watch has been saying that for over 15 years. Perhaps my point is that here there seems to be a black hole in the media for even talking about overpoulation. Everyone seems to think that technology is going to solve these huge problems we are facing. It is going to take a lot of awareness to see the problem and to do something about it. If population keeps growing, and it is by leaps and bounds, we will always be spending all of our time playing catch up. The main problem is that we will need a new paradigm in thinking to accomplish anything anymore, and the elephant in the room is population. I realize the capitalists cannot even conceive of life without continual growth. So there you are. Can we overcome the biological imperative, and change the current economic system that will work with less population?
Low-tech solution available right now. Free public transit.
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http://freepublictransit.org
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laffingbear
Simple solution to slowing birth rates. Instead of spending money on expensive oil wars, spend it on uplifting people in poor countries. Research has shown that a good education and improved living standard slows birth rates. It is the most intelligent way of bringing about negative population growth.
Chris 14
"I will be DAMNED if our Government starts telling me what to do and how to do it".
Who said anything about the government?
The question is are we intelligent enough to slow birth rates?
AIR CAR is the answer. It uses compressed air and compressed air we can still use comes out the tail pipe. No spark no fuel no nukes just borrowed air , that right borrowed. Range 120 miles top speed about 70 mph. Seat 4 people.
GO TIDAL (CURRENT) ENERGY!! If North America is serious about energy shortages & reducing dependence on foreign oil & GHG emissions, then by a long shot the most feasible energy source is in the tidal currents sloshing by on all our maritime shores and major river estuaries. Unfortunately, Ms. Sawin neglected to mention this energy generation technology in her article though tidal (current) energy has the following remarkable advantages: it is predictable (i.e. FIRM), it has much higher energy density-potential than wind or solar (e.g. sea water is 832 times as dense as air), there are many excellent tidal current resource sites nearby to grid-hookups and population centres on both maritime coasts (and worldwide), it is non-polluting and has the lowest enviro-footprint relative to other large-generation energy technologies, and the concepts or tidal technologies now emerging worldwide are proven. All that remains to fully seat this technology is the political will to support it, and all you have to do is understand how aggressively the UK is working to seat tidal energy, for electricity and billions in jobs and exports, to comprehend the scope of this emerging technology. Check out this industry association: Ocean Renewable Energy Group: oreg.ca for more industry news; - Michael Maser, Blue Energy International (www.bluenergy.com)
The repeal of banking controls from the 1930's was a bi-partisan effort. Bill Clinton signed legislation that allowed community banks and investment banks to merge (1999, I think). The separation of brokerage firms, investment banks and insurance companies was late 80's-early 90's. We had a democratic congress then. And when Clinton-Gore half-heartedly tried to legislate a revenue neutral BTU tax (much better that a carbon tax) it was western state Dems that nixed it.
Stop looking to politics and gov't for answers. All they could do, if they really wanted to, is to make the rules fair. That means the gov't doesn't "pick" what alternatives should get money. The price is now high enough that, according to a previous article on CD, venture capital is pouring in.
Let the gov't stop subsidizing ALL energy and start enforcing environmental regulations. New legislation? How about this: No one can put poisons in our air, land or water. If a business entity breaks the law they pay huge fines and close down. That's it.
Just read the other day (here?) that some corporate entities are paying $4 million fine for polluting waterways in 34 states!! Why not full clean up costs?
JaneM June 11th, 2008 1:11 pm
Excellent point!
"FDR's administration did put safeguards into place to prevent future Depressions from happening, but the truth is that the NeoCons have pretty much gutted the New Deal reforms and cut the social safety net out from underneath us, leaving us even more vulnerable to a financial meltdown"
The analysis is spot on, I'm not sure it will be quite as bad as pointed out.
"The only long term solution to these problems and most others is BIRTH CONTROL."
This idea will not take hold in poor nations where the tendecy is often towards large families.
JaneM June 11th, 2008 1:11 pm
"I don't know about anyone else, but after putting 500 gallons of heating oil in my tank @ $4.36, my husband and I are looking at all the things we can personally do to save gas and oil. This will not be easy, but this is the kick in the pants that we need. We have finally hit the threshold that is going to make things happen. We should hope the price stays high; it will hurt like hell in the short run, but in the long run it will be good for us."
I agree, Jane.
We keep looking to others for the solution, but ultimately, it lies with each of us. While Washington can implement policy and laws, it is our lifestyles that create the demand for, well, everything.
I just had my oil tank filled and it costs $948 for 200 gallons. While this hurts my wallet, it will hurt others much more. The coming winter in Maine and other cold regions is going to be scary and it will hurt. While I wish no one any suffering, this truly is necessary. Americans have been on the gravy train for far too long and our profligate ways are indeed coming home to roost.
We must, and we will, tighten our belts. This is not a short-term spike. The shit has finally hit the fan and our lives are about to change. I would suggest to all fellow CDers that you adjust your lives accordingly. Do what you can to live smaller in material terms, and larger in social and natural terms. Reach out to others and share. The day of the lone wolf is over.
laffingbear,
Birth control doesn't seem to have worked in China or India. One of which is the largest Democracy in the free world. The other is dominated by the Government. I will be DAMNED if our Government starts telling me what to do and how to do it. In point of fact, they already do in some cases. I am tired of people such as yourself suggesting that WE need to take drastic steps when the rest of the world opperates on their own priciples. Our strengths in this country is our ability to adapt and overcome ALL obsticles even the ones imposed upon us by thoughtless legislation.
The only long term solution to these problems and most others is BIRTH CONTROL. Get used to the idea people. We are overpopulated and no amount of technology is going solve the problems we are facing. That is, not if you want to keep living the same life style.
Sally U,
Couldn't agree more.
The numbers are staggering.
I live in West Palm Beach FL. Our local Palm Beach Post newspaper is one of the most comprehensive for a town newspaper. Yet every day for years we have read it and daily claim how is it that things can continue to get worse. And like clockwork they do.
We, personally, are hanging on by a small silk thread. We are survivalists types but this kind of pressure while we are stuck here in the city is becoming almost too much for two self sufficient, frugal elders to bear.
I spent some of the last few days calling congress members on the whole Scott McClellan, Judiciary committee hearing, impeachment articles opportunity we now have presented to us. All I can say is after spending a marathon three-four hours of chatting up staff members there is nothing really to "hope" for.
They've been neutered as well as most of the American public.
This will definitely become every man for himself. 1929 will look like we had picnics in the street. This time it will be scary. Really really scary.
"Oil company executives have as much admitted that with current supply and demand, oil should cost no more than between $50 and $60 a barrel."
As has George Soros. If they are right, the bubble should burst at least short term.
Oil company executives have as much admitted that with current supply and demand, oil should cost no more than between $50 and $60 a barrel. At least 50%, if not more, of the current cost of a barrel of oil is being driven by speculators who are betting on oil futures. If you read up on the situation here in America just before the crash of '29, the current situation of wild speculation combined with the credit crunch, massive foreclosures and runaway debt is frighteningly similar to what was happening in the 1920's just before the big crash.
Folks, we're headed for a massive economic meltdown. Sure, FDR's administration did put safeguards into place to prevent future Depressions from happening, but the truth is that the NeoCons have pretty much gutted the New Deal reforms and cut the social safety net out from underneath us, leaving us even more vulnerable to a financial meltdown the likes of which we haven't seen in almost 80 years. People have no idea just how precarious a situation we're in right now and if something big doesn't happen soon to turn this sinking ship around, we're in for a very big hurt that will take generations to repair.
You think it's bad now? Just you wait. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
We should organize a 'space race' type effort at developing a new super battery technology. Once a new battery hits the scene- one that solves the cost and safety problems of lithium ion batteries- we can be driving super clean and efficient electric vehicles that will outperform all previous automobiles to date. And that will go a long way towards stopping global warming.
Problem is, the existing energy companies (oil/coal) don't have an incentive to support 'renewable' energy. Because renewable means that the energy source automatically renews itself making it hard for the parent company to remain in the position of energy pimp dolling out one gallon at a time while jacking your wallet. Infact, these oil companies have an incentive to 'buy out' and 'destroy' any serious renewable energy alternative that pops up- infringing upon their addicted daily dose client market. Watch "Who Killed the Electric Car?" to see what I'm talking about.
To put it another way, why would an energy company, spend money to develop a super technology mini-backyard-personal renewable energy power plant? Once the customer buys it, installs it- he is now 'off the grid' so to speak and the energy company must look for new business instead of a loyal customer who they bill constantly. Not their idea of good business.
Capitalism with the current set of key players is quite incompatible with the environment. And yet capitalism has concentrated power into their cabalish board of directors- providing them with the power to challenge, subvert, and eradicate any innovative challenge to the product they sell and market dominance they constructed. I'm not optimistic that the solution will come from them.
But maybe that means there's an opportunity for small scale local mom and pop energy providers. I heard of one guy in Oregon that installed a bunch of solar power on his roof. With his excess electricity- he lets his neighbors charge their electric vehicles for free. I think thats the start of what needs to take place. Good old mom and pop doing business- moving the country, cleanly and renewably.
ubrew12,
When I said that nuclear was lower cost than the renewables, I was speaking to capital cost. Certainly, once you have the sunk cost of construction, renewables are hard to beat at free fuel.
To adjust the capital for intermittency, the capacity factor must be incorporated.
Onshore wind:
Capital: $1700/kw
Capacity factor: 0.3
Effective capital cost 1700/.3 = $5667/kw
Thermal solar:
Capital: $4000/kw
Capacity factor: 0.25
Effective captial cost 4000/.25 = $12,000/kw
Nuclear:
Capital: $3500/kw
Capacity factor: 0.9
Effective capital cost 3500/.9 = $3,889/kw
For a different string on a PV solar plant in Portugal I calculated that $0.65/kwh was necessary just to cover the initial capital. (It should be noted that PV solar is more capital intensive that thermal solar.)
I personally think your 40% for nuclear is low. Unless carbon sequestering becomes economically practical, I would like to see nukes at 70% of our power. Our current generating mix is 20% nuke and 50% coal. I would replace all the coal.
Bill
American behavior will change when material conditions change. The (relatively) high cost of gas has already put a damper on SUV sales.
If the government would quit spending billions on subsidizing cars and trucks and air travel and switched to subsidizing rail, we could save millions of barrels of oil.
If local government would quit subsidizing big developers to create urban sprawl, we could have smart urban planning, with walkable communities, and light rail and bike trails for longer commutes.
This country is destroying the planet's ecosystem to enrich road builders, oil companies and McMansion builders. Are you willing to let it continue?
I watch the evening corporate news, and when they report on these things, they call it "creating jobs" and that magic mantra makes it all OK.
'got' this out of, is what i meant to spell. anyways, lets all work towards renewable energy sources. INDUSTRIAL HEMP ANYONE?
fpal-you got it right, get this out of msm
In Portugal, the strike hit air transport as fuel shortages forced authorities at Lisbon airport to ban planes from refuelling, except those on high priority flights.
"We cannot refuel any planes, except those on urgent, military or state flights," a spokesman for the airport authority, Rui Oliveira, told Lusa news agency.
we need different and better alternatives than what we have been given. Oil is so twentieth century. the time is now
Billy_y4 said: "The mature renewables, wind and solar, are not lower cost than nuclear for a given amount of electricity"
My statistics say otherwise. Regardless, I think this country should double its nuclear production, to 40% of total. It's quite safe, although waste is still an issue.
That's no reason for misrepresenting renewables: wind is the LOWEST cost energy source around, BAR NONE. Unfortunately, wind has a major NIMBY cost (the solution is to do what the Europeans do: enforce ONE wind turbine design for a location: its much more esthetically pleasing that way).
I'm very big on wave and salinity gradient power. Check out my website: www.philsinventions.com
100 miles of California's 1200 mile coastline has enough energy in wave resource to power ALL of california's energy needs. THATS a fact.
Bill sez:
"We can argue about risk of radioactive contamination or the difficulty of waste disposal with nuclear but it is lower installed cost than all non-combustion renewables except hydroelectric."
What would the cost of nukes be if you factored in the cost of insuring the nukes as they must be, of radioactive waste disposal forever, of trying in vain to remove it from the food chain, of accidents and acts of war, of nuclear proliferation, and the costs of treating increasing cancers ad infinitum?
Should we pass these burdens to future generations by depending on religious faith that solutions may be found even as corporate profits are the only driving force?
Billy_y4 said: "The mature renewables, wind and solar, are not lower cost than nuclear for a given amount of electricity"
That's a lie. Wind is about 3 cents/kWhr, Solar about 8-12 cents/kWhr, Nuclear is 14 cents/kWhr.
Wind is lower in cost than coal or oil.
"Don't worry, OPEC will meet and find a way to reduce oil prices in time for the general election "
You said that two years ago and the Republicans lost both houses. Wise up.
No mention of conservation? Tisk, tisk...
I believe Hillary (R.I.P.) would have disagreed - did you see this video?
http://www.minimovie.com/film-128295-Welcome%20Back,%20Clinton
Don't worry, OPEC will meet and find a way to reduce oil prices in time for the general election so the citizens are less angry with the Republicans and the pain of the cost of gas is reduced, and people are lulled back into lighting up another meth pipe, er, I mean filling the tank with gas.
Jane,
Don't want to get personal, but have you considered a ground coupled heat pump?
It is a stiff price for refitting a house but it sure is economical once installed. It can be used almost anywhere in the country. Oil is only gonna go up and the heat pump would probably pay for itself in 4-5 years.
Bill
Kem,
To quote Ronald Reagan: "There you go again!"
You said: "With a fraction of the cost of nuclear power plants, we could have totally clean energy"
This is not true. The mature renewables, wind and solar, are not lower cost than nuclear for a given amount of electricity. There is no solid estimate for the immature renewables such as tidal and wave. Geo-thermal is not ready for prime time.
We can argue about risk of radioactive contamination or the difficulty of waste disposal with nuclear but it is lower installed cost than all non-combustion renewables except hydroelectric.
Regards,
Bill
$4.00 per Gallon Gasoline...
and the price of bread and housing...
It's not for the lack of raping Mother Earth it is for the plunder of our treasury. Except for the few filthy rich robber barons Everyman has seen the value of their wages and life savings reduced to a quarter of what it was. That's the real crime. I'll remember in November - should I live so long.
Clean energy is a bandaid solution. We need either birth control and a wealth/power cap, or a world holocaust and revolution.
Politicians cannot to give us the former. Only direct democracy can.
omg, it's worse than i thought..........two truck drivers have been killed at picket lines in spain and portugal as the tensions mounted.........not having a car i buy food for a few days and haven't been shopping for a while. but i just read on a local website that the shelves are empty of fresh produce. well, shopping should be interesting tomorrow. i hadn't realised it was that serious..............kem, can you throw a few potatoes my way?
well already things are getting bad here in southern europe. truck drivers have been on strike against the rising fuel prices and there is no fuel in some places. consequently there is no fresh vegetables or fruits............mmmmmmmmm, shades of things to come on a regular basis perhaps. glad i can walk to the store, but if there's nothing to buy, not much point eh?
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?everyman&1
Yes, we need solar development. Yes, we need wind. But I still disagree that the government should be providing us with these things because we "need" them.
Go guerilla solar. Put some panels on your house, make your own power. Get a bicycle for your errands. Do-It-Yourself and price the government and big oil/coal right out of your house.
Put your money where your mouth is and stop asking your leaders to give it to you so you can buy it off of them. They have no vested interest in going sustainable.
Doing it yourself is the real grassroots revolution.
matti June 11th, 2008 1:49 pm ..Well, matti..it's going out at the rate of over $700,000,000 a day in Iraq...there's one place to start!
While the author cries over spilled milk about not getting "entitlement" for solar, wind, and the unmentioned hemp not paying attention to the fact that for the past 30 years, BIG GOVERNMENT has given her and us the MIDDLE FINGER, here's a better solution I shall give you so you don't have to wait until 2030 to get it.
Do a google search on
solar power generator
wind power generator
"make your own biodiesel" "petroleum free"
hemp "make your own fuel"
If you have time to blog around and/or watch American idol, you sure as hell can find time to devote your mindset and skills towards building those alternative renewables and draining Big Government and Corporate America of its oil revenue !
In addition, we must cease the insane Iraq policy, tuck our tails in and depart their land now and allow them to sort out the mess we created. Leave that friggin monstosity of an embassy complex in Baghdad and forget about having 58 military bases in Iraq and stop spending billions every month for nothng productive and stop killing Iraqis.
I fear neither McCain nor Obama will do that, they both will insure we have a strong militay force in Iraq. I also fear neither of the candidates will do much in the area of clean energy, except perhaps to dump half a trillion into nuclear power plants. GE wants the nuckers and they supported Obama big time, they own him and that sad state of affairs is beginning to surface.
With a fraction of the cost of nuclear power plants, we could have totally clean energy and have it within eight years and no deadly by-products to store away for thousands of years. Uranium is a finite source of fuel, solar and wind ect, are not.
"Stop wasting money in Iraq to protect access to oil."
It would have been cheaper to just buy it.
The higher gasoline prices are a blessing in disguise. This may be the only way Americans will be corerced into reducing their shameful energy waste and focusing on real alternative energy sources. Foreign oil is the largest contributor to our dangerous trade deficit & economic heath--not to mention our unconsciencable contribution and indifference to global warming & related pollution.
Rather than cause hardships and damage to the economy as alledged by this administration and its energy partners, an additional $1.00 per gallon gas tax, if used for development of wind & solar energy and improvements in fuel efficiency, would improve our qualityof life and our economic security within a relatively short time.
The big problem is, the year 2050 is much too far into the future. We have to SERIOUSLY start talking the years 2012 to 2020.
Here are two three minute read links which fully compliment one another and explain EXACTLY why that is imperative.
http://www.farnorthscience.com/2007/09/26
http://www.energybulletin.net/3647.html
If we don't begin a MASSIVE construction program to develop clean energy, which includes geo-thermal, solar, wind, tidal and wave, all of which are affordable, viable and proven alternatives, and stop burnng coal to produce electricity within six to eight years, we aren't going to see 2050 ____ and neither will YOUR children.
Individuals cannot pay the thermodynamic costs of fuel consumption, which is the inverse of the efficiency times the price of the product – plus the cost of the product. For an automobile with a single passenger, for instance, because it is about 1% efficient, the thermodynamic cost is $100 for every dollar of gasoline consumed.
In order for there to be ecological sanity instead of suicide, the public requires the democratic administration of supply in the marketplace. We can no longer afford, and never should have permitted, the economy to be the private property of the owners of capital.
It's time to get off fossil fuels and nuclear.
The first step, all electricity needs to be generated from renewable sources: solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, wave. This could be accomplished within a decade. This would be a great economic boom for America, American manufacturing, American technology.
Stop wasting money in Iraq to protect access to oil.
Time to move back into cities, or make suburbia sustainable. The great 100 mile daily commutes never really made much sense anyway, but even less with one person in an 8mpg monster idling every thirty yards. Drive to a station or bus point and commute from there, like the country did in the forties and fifties. Adjust your lives, or go under -- it's really that simple, especially when you realise that Government ain't gonna help us out with this, not in anything like time, anyway.
Here's some required reading for anyone interested in solving America's energy problems: "A Solar Grand Plan", in the January 2008 Scientific American. Just google it to find the article on the web. The authors prop[ose massive development of solar energy in the American Southwest to supply 70% of US electricity by 2050. Their proposal utilizes technology that already exists- no new technology would be required.
If your job start time and end time is always changing, the fixed route buses are only available if you live close to work. Where I live, I would have to transfer twice and take a taxi home 25 miles. I imagine that people who work several jobs burn even more gas than I do. Until van pools are available at all hours to those who need this service most, oil speculators will continue to hurt those who deserve it least.
And let's not forget the economic benefits of putting people to work.
Rebuilding our cities and farms, residential, commercial, industrial and inferstructure across the whole U.S. would be a "make-work" project that would leave the WPA in the dust.
Too bad the Treasury is already in debt 10 foot above it's eyeballs.
Where can we find the money? Is it hiding underneath those nuclear submarines? Or behind that pesky War of Agression? Did the Chinese take it? China! Did you take our money? Will you give it back?
Trade ya Taiwan for it.
Pretty Please?
-matti.
I put my money where my mouth is. NALFX and GAAEX alt. energy funds. I figure within 10 years it will do VERY well. F'n republicans have stopped the last two things in congress that at least try to get us going green. Call you sen. and rep. and get them moving away from oil and onto alt. energy. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME!! Lefty
Being really cynical about Congress, Bushie and Republican voters in general, I think Congress has two choices. First, they can put lots of lipstick on the pig, call coal squeaky clean, say the same about radioactive waste. Second, they can hush up their mouths and hope nobody else notices.
Now, if they really wanted personal rapid transit systems that were a factor of 10 cheaper and a factor of 10 safer, I'd be glad to help out. Really really? I didn't think so. For the same reasons, put the kibosh on 2 cent per kilowatt hour nonphotovoltaic solar electricity.
I don't know about anyone else, but after putting 500 gallons of heating oil in my tank @ $4.36, my husband and I are looking at all the things we can personally do to save gas and oil. This will not be easy, but this is the kick in the pants that we need. We have finally hit the threshold that is going to make things happen. We should hope the price stays high; it will hurt like hell in the short run, but in the long run it will be good for us.
"Knowing what we know and allowing our energy markets to favor oil, coal, and natural gas over clean alternatives is like knowing that tobacco causes lung cancer and promoting smoking in public buildings."
No, its like being diagnosed with lung cancer and still lighting up. Americans are addicts who are in thrall to their dealers, the politicians who are in turn enslaved to the "drug manufacturers" the fossil fuel companies. We need direct intervention and go cold turkey NOW!
Shouldn't energy policy be the number one issue in this coming presidential election?