Hooray, Hooray, Hurrah the People have spoke for Obama! For the clinton people I want to say that your champion lost fair and square to the better, more gifted, and talented candidate. It is in the times of defeat that one can learn the most about oneself and those that hitched their destiny to the clinton brand have the opportunity to either "grow or go". I think that just as the country is going through a metamorphosis of change that is totally shaking up the social aspects of American society likewise a shaking is taking place politically within the Democratic Party. I believe that those in the party that do not want to accept and abide by the decisions that have been made should LEAVE the party and form your own party. I think that a third of the Hillary supporters will either leave the party or stay home in November which is, in the final analysis, good for the Democratic Party because it will "purge" the party of the fetters of conservatism/negativism that keeps the party in disarray. I do not think that Obama/clinton will make a dream team! The two of them would be more like a "nightmare" for the Obama administration. Every executive decision made by President Obama would be second guessed by the press and those opposed to his presidency by running it by VP hillary/bill. In the November elections it is going to boil down to "Reminisce man verses Renascence man" with no hanging chads. Who will you vote for?

It's a great day. An historic day. Please, God, don't let them kill this man.

Good riddance... Hopefully this is the end of Hillary for the time being, however, like all good horror movies, there is a chance she'll raise her ugly head again....

This woman is a prostitute pure and simple. She sells her vote and her principles daily. Her exit can only be good.

I think that if Obama offers the VP job to HRC and HRC accepts, then he'd better watch his back or keep her locked away somewhere with little or no access to the White House. Otherwise, she will end up being another Dick Cheney defacto president and Obama will be another puppet prez. Of course, if he doesn't offer her the job, then he may not win the election OR he'll just get shot.

Obama will be okay anne faith. The monied interests don't want him dead.

Hillary Rosen's commentary on HuffPost should be required reading for all Democrats.

The title: "I'm not a bargaining chip, I'm a Democrat."

http://www.huffpost.com/hillary/rosen/

"The Clinton Question" is something that is media driven.

The primary race is over. To continue to be relevant, the media has to create a controversy. OMG let me turn on CNN and MSNBC, and see what Wolf and Chris have to say about "The Clinton Question."

What I heard in Obama's speech last night, that the media, (including the LA Times) chooses to ignore is this: "It is time to turn the page." That was the answer to "The Clinton Question." Old style politics are out. A perfect example of which was Mrs. Clinton, on the historic night, of the nomination of her Party's nominee --- insisting on part of the "spotlight."

There is one reason that Obama doens't not need Hillary on the ticket. That reason can be summed up in one word: "Bill."

"The Clinton Question" is moot.

She lost.

He won.

Happens all the time.

Pittpanther, what the hell was that supposed to mean?

[Pittpanther's comment has been deleted.]

She didnt even have the class to concede. She cant be VP.
She would kill him.

She is going to do her best to make sure he loses so she can try again in 2012.
I think she is dreaming though--no one will forgive Sniper Fire for such a bad nasty campaign if he loses.

Yesterday, YESTERDAY, as Barack was being finally and fully nominated, the Democrats of South Dakota were busy electing Mrs. Clinton in their primary.

Hillary is not a "joke" and she is not a "b" to be shooed away as some insist. She is a "hope" of millions just as Barack is a "hope" of some other millions. Mrs. Clinton is an ally to liberal causes, not the obstacle to them.

Barack probably cannot win without her (whether we like that or not) because of racism and sexism among some (perhaps many) women. I'm counting on him seeing the lessons of his various primary contests and doing what it takes to win. That means embracing his competitor ASAP. Every "sign" so far is pointing to it.

With no apology to those of the wonkish, technocratic, horse-race-handicapping, process-obsessed, inside-politics persuasion-- I've said it before, and until the deed is done, I'll probably be saying it over and over:

The concept of the first African-American president of the U S of A cohabiting in the White House with the Clintons may be an excellent premise for a network teevee sitcom, but it's a really lousy idea for what's left of the Real World.

The choice of Obama's VP will be a tell tale sign of things to come. If corporate America chooses someone like HRC or a Republican like Chuck Hagel as his VP, then that should be a wake up call to any enlightened American that it will be business as usual. However if Obama chooses wisely by picking someone who is non-corporate (like Kucinich), then at least it will be a sign that he is prepared to do battle with corporate America on behalf of the American electorate.
The fact that Obama is the first, half European candidate ever to run for president, should not matter. Most Americans don't give a shit what color he is, however the media will play the race card right to the end. This is a page out of the Republican play book as the MSM tires to paint Obama as an inexperienced maverick who caters to the black voters.
In any event, Obama must win by at least ten million votes to overcome the Republican tampering of voter registration (millions of discarded votes) and all of the judicial tricks that will surely taint November's outcome.

OK Daniel David, I give up. What are the liberal causes to which Clinton is an ally? She supported the war, voted for the Patriot act, supports "free trade," thinks health care should be run by insurance companies subsidized by taxpayers, has no intention of downsizing the military budget, etc., etc. Fill me in.

My comment vaporized. Thanks CD.

Its conclusion was: Onward to the Convention and the all important Platform.

myoichiama and citizenblog,

I think anne faith's opening comment is worth filing away in a conspicuous location: what would happen--after all--if anne's fear were to become manifest? I share the same fear: ClintCain, HillaCain, whatever way you dice it, it seems it would be the worst of Wm. Clinton plus an unhealthy dose of Bushite arrogance and Liebermanesqe pandering. Not what we need at all.

Does Obama get more SS (by that I mean Secret Service, not the other one, though I've got personal experience that tempts me to believe otherwise) protection now that he's the nominee?

Obama should choose a woman VP; just not Hillary.

Amen, longingforsanity!

Cynthia McKinney!

bolwriter,

I believe the biggest advance of "liberal" causes is embodied in who we allow (or not) to be put on The Supreme Court. I therefore believe an Obama/Clinton team-up is the best path to prevent McCain from naming more just like Roberts and Alito (which he has PROMISED to do.)

As for vice presidents, the constitution gives them no real executive power. But in this particular case, I believe the VP may be key to electing the P. We appear "unable" to elect a liberal black. We likewise appear "unable" to elect a liberal woman. The "shot" in my opinion exists in electing them both at once.

I can just hear Hillary saying in her one-word-at-a-time style: WE'RE GOING TO MAKE HISTORY TWICE! (And indeed we might.)

I would like to see Obama reach across the aisle (sorta) and ask RON PAUL to be his VP

I've got it!

Barack and Oprah!

My Dream Team! Just think of the book sales alone.

Hey, if the idea is good enough for Michael Moore, it's good enough for me.

Now HRC and the old John picks up right where Bill's book deal left off.

As Philip Berrigan said, "If elections mattered, they'd have been outlawed!"

Speculation on the VP position is moot. Cheney has instituted that as his permanent office.

Hillary's refusal to conceed defeat is now bordering on outright Racism.

The feminist out there should realize that if historical injustices are being counted here, being a pampered second class citizen belonging to the majority (51% female) was a hell of a lot easier than being a slave.

It is time for a black President.

Hillary, do the right thing and conceed.

For the good of the country, let's hope Obama doesn't pick Hilary and Bill for VPs. Just look at her! The lady ain't got no class. After all her failed attempts to steal the nomination from Obama, she still refuses to concede. Beware the ides of June.

Hilary and Bill are loyal only to Hilary and Bill. They'll continue their scheming and dirty tricks as long as necessary to get the presidency. Open your eyes, Clinton supporters, those two are poison.

Maybe we could draft Gore for VP???

Well, it'll be an even greater day if he can win in November. If he can take the White House, and Dems can secure a super majority in Congress you Dems, (I'm an Independent) can quickly, if you have the smarts, turn this into a one party Socialist State. The formula for this lies before you and it's an easy read and Obama's already signaled the all important step no. 1, i.e. Universal Health Care. By raising taxes on the evil white suburbanites to pay for gov't sponsored health care for all with quality treatment for everyone except those deemed of no use to the common good, i.e. evil white people, especially the elderly. Step two is to stealthyily if thats possible, to nationalize a few key industries, Banking, Oil, and the Airlines. Doing so will add millions to the gov't payroll, but of course, job acquisition and tenure would be dependent upon party loyalties. Step three is outa FDR's playbook, pack the supreme court so you can re-write the constitution to eliminate gun rights and property rights. Step 4, amnesty for the illegals and free money to them to vote Democrat; and Step 5, more and higher handouts to the permanent underclass on the Dem plantation. There are a few other steps that come to mind. For example, something needs to be done about the voting system and the first thing that needs be done is to eliminate absentee voting. Absentee voting allows the evil to vote without the crowds of intimidating Democrats. By requiring same-day voting, (and it should be a holiday), throngs of threatening Democrat thugs will keep the evil white Repugs away from the polls.

It's not tough and I'm counting on Obama and you Dems to get'r done. I've shorted the market!

Hillary.."obliterate iran"...AKA WWIII...nuff said..supported the "war"...nuff said..is supported by the Penta(gram)...nuff said...obama makes some dumb gaffs...so what? He is the ONLY ACTULA NON-DYNASTIC ENTRY INTO THIS RACE..HIS 'NEWNESS' IS A MAIN STREAM MEDIA...READ: PROPAGANDA MACHINE..SPIN SCHEME FOR IDIOTS AND STUPID STUBBORNS..HILLARY IS DEVISIVE, NON-POLICY DRIVEN, IF SHE IS THE VP...OBAMA DIES IN AN "ACCIDENT LIKE HIS PLANE FLIPPING OVER ON THE RUN WAY WITH NON-EXISTANT "ICE" ON IT'S WINGS...SHE IS DANGEROUS..PERIOD..AS DANGEROUS AS MCBUSH...A "100 YEARS WAR' IS HER SEMI-STATED GOAL AS WELL..AND AGAIN...NO MORE DYNASTIC RULE OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE COUNTRY...NO MORE! NEW BLOOD IS EXACTLY WHAT IS NEEDED..
AND FINALLY..I AGREE WITH THE POSTER ABOVE WHO INDICATED KUCINICH FOR VP..WOULD THAT BE AMAZING OR WHAT?..C'MON OBAMA..DO IT FOR US..DO IT FOR REAL..ACTUAL..HONEST...TRULY MAGNIFICENT AND NEEDED FOR OUR VERY SURVIVAL AS A NATION.......CHANGE...

Daniel David -

If I undertand you correctly, you're saying Obama probably can't win alone because of racism and Hillary couldn't have won alone because of sexism. If you're right, then how would putting them together on the same ticket enhance the chances of that ticket?

Seems to me (by your premises) that such a ticket might just as easily unite all the racists and sexists against it and double its chances of loosing votes from those subgroups.

HRC is unprofessional and stubborn.
Her votes came from swinging Republicans.
If she were to be VP for Barack Obama,
She'd use her whip and make him call her mama.
She must concede (all be it kicking and screaming)
But of Obama's death, she'll still be dreaming.
Please wake me from this nightmarish bore
I want life, liberty, and freedom once more.

If Barack chooses Hil as his running mate. He will lose the respect and hope of the people who thought he could make a difference.

End to the excessive influence of lobbyists? Just see what happened when Barack appeared in front of the hyenas of AIPAC. He bent over and they licked him. The possibility of kicking lobbies in the groin and the possibility of bringing peace to the Middle East vanished today. He's preferable to McCain but expect little from Obama, folks. How disheartening.

Dave A.

You're right about my thinking. But I believe Barack will get sympathy when the white men attack Hillary on gender, and that Hillary will get sympathy when they attack Barack on race.

The OTHER key, too, is for bystanders to make sure that every evangelical in America knows the full score on the McCains' BEER business. It must be a bigger story than his unfortunate days as a POW. After all, it has lasted longer.
5 years as POW, 25 years married to bigtime beer selling.

I agree with Hole, in that the Senator from Illinois would be ill-advised to pony up with La Clinton. And I also agree with PJD in that the sharp swerve to the hawk-y side of the street is disconcerting. However, let's let the man do the whole chest-beating bit with McCain cause that's where it's going to go. Did anyone really think the pink bubbles of love thing would help the Senator against the shithouse rat-crazy-mean McCain?

In the context of what American elections are, we all know what to expect: significantly less that what we desire. In the context of what politicians are, keep in mind that the Senator is one. I sincerely believe he could be ten thousand times better than the current president...but in the context of what this president is, that's not saying much.

Regardless of my support for Mr. Obama, I don't expect him to save us any more than I expect any elected official to. That is our own responsibility.

Certainly he's the candidate I'd most like to have a beer with--him AND his loyal and brave wife.

And, just like Anne's post at the top of these comments, I'd really like for him to remain living.

Now that Obama has crossed the finish line, the mainstream media are recycling the same message: Obama must now reach out to Clinton and begin to repair the rift between the two camps.

While this is certainly true from a pragmatic view (that is, if Obama wants to win the general election), it is a disturbing message from another perspective.

Although Clinton supporters are quite right that Hillary Clinton has been subjected to a great deal of sexism and misogyny throughout this campaign, the Obama campaign is not (by and large) the source for most of it. That has largely been the work of the mainstream media, Rush Limbaugh and his ilk, and John McCain. While the Obama camp is hardly blameless, it is not the principal offender here. Nevertheless, the Obama campaign--as it moves into the general election--ought to scrutinize its conduct throughout the run-up to the nomination and take seriously the accusations of sexism that have been made by Clinton's supporters.

But this is not the only work that needs to be done within the Democratic party.

As is well-known, the Clinton campaign has itself engaged in some very ugly racism throughout this campaign, and this has lost them some significant support within the black community (traditionally quite favorable to the Clintons). This occurred perhaps most startlingly in the wake of Senator Clinton's wins in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, with Mrs. Clinton suggesting that Senator Obama had a problem among white working-class voters and wondering aloud why he seemed unable to win them over.

I've viewed all of this with considerable concern. When a candidate for her party's nomination suggests that an African American candidate has problems with white voters--knowing, as she must, that in some cases upwards of 30% of those who voted for her claimed that race was a factor in their voting preference--that person is effectively saying that it is the African American person's responsibility to overcome the racial prejudice of white voters.

While it may be a concern for Barack Obama that, in a number of primaries, Clinton's supporters claimed that race was a factor in their choice, it is not Obama's responsibility to fix that. The responsibility for that work lies with whites who are guided by racial factors in their voting decisions. This is simply a way of saying something that has long been said by people who do anti-racism work: racism is a problem that the white community needs to come to terms with. It requires work from whites not overtures from blacks.

Through its repeated suggestions that Barack Obama has a problem with whites and by asking questions about why he can't seem to gain their support (both serious distortions, by the way), the Clinton campaign has played into a long and ugly tradition, one that makes blacks responsible for undoing and overcoming racism while letting whites off the hook.

If the rifts opened during this campaign are to be mended, it will take work from both sides, not simply gestures of respect and goodwill from Obama to the Clinton camp.

I think Dennis Kucinich would be a great Vice President!!

Republicans voted for Hillary in the primary because they consider her to be the weaker candidate and beatable. They would not have voted for her in November if she had been the candidate. Hillary has no class, is a sore loser and had no business bringing up the word (subliminal message) "assassinate" at least twice. Shame on Hillary, if she has shame that is (which she doesn't).

glide 625:
I defy you to find actual evidence for any of your fears. I will dismiss you as paranoid. Just to address your first topic Universal Health care: 1) there is no evidence that Obama regards white suburbanites as evil; 2) everyone would be taxed according to their ability to pay in a univ health care program similar to Social Security, doesn't matter their color or neighborhood; 3) taxes by the way, aren't a bad way to pay for healthcare, Medicare already delivers it at lower cost than private health insurance; 4) again there is no evidence that Obama regards whites as evil, that's just your own paranoid racism speaking; 5) and as for the elderly being left out, he has never proposed to do away with Medicare or Soc.Sec., just the opposite is true, they would be expanded and improved. Your other comments are equally free of any reality except your own prejudices, and they are baseless and racist.

OK Daniel David, I give up. What are the liberal causes to which Clinton is an ally? She supported the war, voted for the Patriot act, supports "free trade," thinks health care should be run by insurance companies subsidized by taxpayers, has no intention of downsizing the military budget, etc., etc. Fill me in.

Um...Obama continues to vote to fund the war, he voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act, he supports "free trade" (google Austan Goolsbee sometime), he thinks health care should be run by insurance companies but promises "lower premiums", he has no intention of downsizing the military budget or deprivatizing it, etc., etc. The voting records of Clinton and Obama are almost identical, except Clinton's record is actually slightly more progressive (especially on trade issues) and her health care and environmental proposals were much better. So, how is Obama the candidate of "change"? Now I'm sure that someone will call me a racist.

The comment at 1:22 p.m. is a completely irresponsible statement and should be deleted.

It seems to me a much better idea to offer Hillary Clinton a cabinet post, such as Health and Human Services, or Education. I think she could be much more effective in this kind of position than as Vice President, and certainly she would be further away from Bill Clinton's meddling.

Vice Presidents don't win elections by themselves, and it might be easy for the Republicans to have two targets to attack rather than just one if she is selected for the job.

I know Democrats have small brains so here it is in a way that even you retarded DUmmies can understand:

single payer national health insurance:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Cut the huge, bloated, wasteful military budget:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

No to nuclear power, solar energy first:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Aggressive crackdown on corporate crime and corporate welfare:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Open up the Presidential debates:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Adopt a carbon pollution tax:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Reverse U.S. policy in the Middle East:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Impeach Bush/Cheney:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Repeal the Taft-Hartley anti-union law:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Adopt a Wall Street securities speculation tax:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Put an end to ballot access obstructionism:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

Work to end corporate personhood:
Nader: On the table; Obama/McCain: Off the table

This is a really great guy. It's a shame that he'll never sit in the chair. The neocon stormtroopers will make sure he never gets control.
This country is controlled by fear. That fear will be exploited to keep Obama out of the White House. His 'muslim' association, his middle name, and his race will be played on to keep America afraid. The war must go on so Obama will be labeled a 'defeatist' and he will be accused of 'turning his back on all the "brave" soldiers that gave their lived for the "security" of America in Iraq'. The smear will be ugly and long.
IF there's an election at all, America will vote for McCain (the same as they voted for bush in 2004). The paranoid, bible-thumping, pea-brained hypocrites will unite and get McCain in the White House. Afterwards, they will say "Obama couldn't have done any better" when confronted with the National crisis.
Uncle Sam is waving goodbye from the caboose. Better wave back if you intend to stay here.

And, with the nomination clinched, Obama made a good hawkish speech to AIPAC in New York promising all the right things.

1. Absolutely unwavering, uncritical support of Israel to the tune of billions of dollars a year.

2. An undivided (i.e ethnically cleansed) Jerusalem as the capital of the "Jewish State"; and.

3. Belligerant talk on the (non-existant fantasy) Iranian nuclear bomb program.

What I find amusing are the pundits who think Obama is likely to choose Shrillary for VP. After her all her vicious, below-the-belt attacks, questioning Obama's ability to be Commander-in-Chief while praising McCain's alleged abilities, why would Obama pick her? He would have to be stupid to choose her. And he is not a stupid man. She will not strengthen the ticket in any case, despite what her supporters think. He'd be better off picking someone like Jim Webb, or Wesley Clark, Joe Biden or even John Edwards.

Great idea musicmarc
Well done

marcy kaptur of ohio will be the VP....

she is not a total phoney on helping the workers as hillary was and is .. and she has the RECORD to back that up..

she will help carry ohio and mich and pa which will seal the election for obama... this is hillarys and bills worst nitemare... marcy kaptur will be the boss woman of the democrat party....

she is a white woman version of john edwards but with alot better and proven record of helping workers and she voted NO against this war for oil for the robber barons... unlike the crook hillary and the phoney edwards...

jimmy carter said it would be a worst mistake of any to select hillary as VP he is so RIGHT.. obama has a 6 month lead on mccain now .. when marcy kaptur is known around the country that will go to double digits.. stupid people who say obama cannot win without hillary... just the opposite... with hillary he could NOT win... all the independents would go for mccain...

I agree with Memory-Hole. Obama should pick Jim Webb for a VP. He has military experience and put the new G.I. Bill in Congress which Obama voted for and McCain didn't even show up to vote because he was against it. Senator Webb is from Virginia and also when the Republicans say Obama is inexperienced because of the military, He'll have someone experienced on the ticket. Also, Bill Richardson has experience, or Wesley Clark. That would shut McCain and others up.
Hillary was a sore loser last night. She wouldn't have liked it if she had won and Obama did her like she did him. Of course, he has too much class to act like she did. I don't like it that they think they are "owed" to be Obama's VP somehow. They say Bill Clinton may not want to go through the vetting process or wouldn't make it through it because of money he's gotten for his Library. Who knows, they may drum up an "affair" somewhere.
Why is she waiting until Friday. Even some of the Senators that were backing her called her this morning and was very upset with her. They told her they didn't like what she did last night and it was time for her to concede so they could back Obama.
She took the hint.

Thousands of newlyweds pouring out of California after 17 June and now this the Clinton's shown the door. Am I dreaming this or not?

Can't wait to wake up.

Congratulations to Barack Obama for winning the Democratic Presidential Nomination! He truly is an inspiration, and has an opportunity when elected as President to make Extraordinary changes for the good in this country and the world.

Many, if not most of us who voted for him DO NOT want him to select Hillary Clinton as his VP running mate.

This country's had enough of the Clintons. They've had their time. Obama owes Hillary nothing, and by choosing her as VP he will not be seen as "uniting the Party," but rather as caving in to the old, status-quo guard of the Democratic Party.

I could take to task some who have spoken before me today but do not choose to do so.

Suffice to say, I believe the issue of Hillary being VP can be summed up with one question; "Have you got your head up your ass?"

What truly amazes me is that if a part-time political junkie like me can see it, then why are all the know-it-all pundits unaware (or more than likely)afraid to simply state what is going on of late.

It has only been since about Sunday or Monday, that leaks have emerged from the Clinton camp (always with that anonymity because that person, if even existing, is not authorized to speak on behalf of Mrs. Clinton) that she would consider the VP position if offered to her.

OF course, it is purely coincidence (and there is a tooth fairy) that this immediately follows the day long DNC discussions regarding the seating of Michigan & Florida delegates. WHile my personal opinion was that none should have been seated at all, even the compromise of giving them each one half a vote proved totally unacceptable to the Clinton campaign.

The next will be absolutely clear becaue it is spoken in typical political double-talk. On Tuesday, the final primary days in South Dakota and Montana, Hillary issued through her people a statement that she would concede that Obama had the delegates necessary to secure the nomination would but would not concede the nomination. If you read it over three more times, it still won't make any sense to you.

GOing back to where I began, with what everyone knows and no one will admit, she is using this as a "wedge" as it were because she has not ruled out challenging the DNC rules committee on their Saturday decision.

In plain English, "Select me as your running mate and everything else goes away" (or intimidation by innuendo)

The almighty news media, whose first interest lies in the sale of newspapers or the sale of expensive TV time, will constanly remind you of the strong showing that Hillary made in some of the "eleventh hour primaries" such as Pennsylvania and West Virginia and try to drive home how putting her on the ticket would practically ensure Obama getting those votes. I am speaking of those who reportedly have hinted that they might not vote at all or vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.

This is a true test for Obama. I would hate to be in his shoes at this particular time but if I were, I'd say bye bye to Hillary & Billary and take my chances with BIll Richardson or Joe Biden as my running mate.

In the long run, I think that the people who brought him to where he is through their turning out at primaries and caucuses would have a greater respect for him because he did not sell out to the Clintons and in total they comprise a number far greater than those who gave Hillary the edge in Pa. & W.Va..

I could take to task some who have spoken before me today but do not choose to do so.

Suffice to say, I believe the issue of Hillary being VP can be summed up with one question; "Have you got your head up your ass?"

What truly amazes me is that if a part-time political junkie like me can see it, then why are all the know-it-all pundits unaware (or more than likely)afraid to simply state what is going on of late.

It has only been since about Sunday or Monday, that leaks have emerged from the Clinton camp (always with that anonymity because that person, if even existing, is not authorized to speak on behalf of Mrs. Clinton) that she would consider the VP position if offered to her.

OF course, it is purely coincidence (and there is a tooth fairy) that this immediately follows the day long DNC discussions regarding the seating of Michigan & Florida delegates. WHile my personal opinion was that none should have been seated at all, even the compromise of giving them each one half a vote proved totally unacceptable to the Clinton campaign.

The next will be absolutely clear becaue it is spoken in typical political double-talk. On Tuesday, the final primary days in South Dakota and Montana, Hillary issued through her people a statement that she would concede that Obama had the delegates necessary to secure the nomination would but would not concede the nomination. If you read it over three more times, it still won't make any sense to you.

GOing back to where I began, with what everyone knows and no one will admit, she is using this as a "wedge" if you were because she has not ruled out challenging the DNC rules committee on their Saturday decision.

In plain English, "Select me as your running mate and it's a done deal"

The almighty news media, whose first interest lies in the sale of newspapers or the sale of expensive TV time, will constanly remind you of the strong showing that Hillary made in some of the "eleventh hour primaries" such as Pennsylvania and West Virginia and try to drive home how putting her on the ticket would practically ensure Obama getting those votes. I am speaking of those who reportedly have hinted that they might not vote at all or vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.

This is a true test for Obama. I would hate to be in his shoes at this particular time but if I were, I'd say bye bye to Hillary & Billary and take my chances with BIll Richardson or Joe Biden as my running mate.

In the long run, I think that the people who brought him to where he is through their turning out at primaries and caucuses would have a greater respect for him because he did not sell out to the Clintons and in total they comprise a number far greater than those who gave Hillary the edge in Pa. & W.Va..

The Demoks have to impeach the top two criminals and totally vacate Iraq by election day to earn the progressive vote or else be ready to accept full responsibility for the reign of Kamikaze McKane.

IS anyone else afraid of Hillary in a "unitary executive VP" position, that according to the current regime, is accountable to no one?