Hillary or else. I'll take the or else. You don't vote on facts and policies but on pride and emotion. Good bye.

The Bilderbergers will meet June 5-7 in VA. Orders have been or will be issued soon to decide on who you will get to vote for.

Boo Hoo, Clinton got a raw deal. Obama did mean things to her. I'm taking my toys and going home. Come on.
Your candidate called Obama an elitist while taking shots and telling tall tales about hunting in her youth to curry favor with the poorest, dumbest white folks in the land. Now mind you many of my neighbors are poor, dumb and white (I live in rural WNC), so I know what I'm talking about. Clinton could have chosen to appeal to what is best in people, but instead she chose to appeal to the worst. She could have defended Obama during "bittergate" or "Wrightgate", but she showed her true colors and enough voters saw her heart for what it is, the color of poop, which is better than black (which is the color of Dick Cheney's heart, even though he is white) though not by much.

Clinton lost because she didn't do as good a job campaigning. Her lack of sincerity and her constant pandering, and her idiotic attempts to undercut Obama by parroting republican talking points undermined her own campaign. Sure there were folks who chose not to support her because she has a vagina, but many more like myself simply opposed her for her record (Iraq vote, Iran vote, failure to stand up to the legions of reprehensible Bush policies/actions), and the fact that she represents the continuation of a trend toward political dynasties which are unamerican and far too often corrupt.

Obama ran a better campaign. Get over it. If you wish to cut off your nose to spite your face by voting against the only progressive candidate that has chance of winning, then you are about as dumb as the poor rednecks who vote republican in hopes of ending abortion, keeping their guns and preventing gay marriage.

Grow up and vote your self interest.

Oh, by the way none of the above comments are supported or endorsed by the Obama campaign, wink, wink.

Look people, it's over now, and it's all good!!
If Hillary wants to be VP, she can be!

Look at it this way, we have been through a very competitive primary process and Barack Obama is going to be the next president of these United States!

John McSame is about to get the "Thumping" of his life, both before and during the general election! A flood of new progressive Democrats are going to be elected along with Obama in a landslide of unprecidented proportions!

Those Clinton supporters who are saying that they won't vote for Obama are lying to themselves. After they lick their wounds for a while, they will come to the conclusion that voting for Insane McSame is political SUICIDE!

The fact that this primary has gone through all fifty states is another good thing in that the party has registered millions of new voters in all of them!

Now is the time to unite the party and get on with the business of getting the NEO-FASCISTS in the Republican Party out of office!

Quit fighting each other and GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!

OBAMA '08

Everyone knew Obama would get the nomination, no surprise there. And even her most ardent supporters knew that she would eventually concede, again no surprise.

But Obama's work is now just beginning, and in addition to having to battle McCain, he NEEDS to win the votes of the Clinton supporters. This second task is actually more difficult than the first.

Obama people, are you reading ? Clinton for VP, and you've got my vote. Anything less and my vote goes elsewhere.

Lets hope this whole gory affair is finally over. Somehow I doubt it. I think Hillary will get her pound of flesh, and her Republican supporters will thank her for doing their dirty work. That or she has more up her sleeve and I shudder to think what it might be.

If it is, congratulations to the best candidate we have had in a long time. Barack Obama!

If Hillary is Obama's VP, I'll vote for someone else. That's right, I hate her that much.

Just kiddin', but I'll be very disappointed. My enthusiasm will be lacking in luster. My optimism will fade a bit. I'll be just a little less hopeful.

And I'll be supremely annoyed to know that I'll have to hear several more months of that wretched woman's voice as she hollers unconvincingly about this or that (as though the volume of her voice can convince us of her passion).

I have serious reservations about Obama, mostly because he refused to support any of the impeachment initiatives against Bush/Cheney, citing the effort as a "waste of time."

Obama's refusal to co-sponsor impeachment resolutions equals his refusal to uphold our Constitution, which he swore, under oath, to uphold.

Aren't we tired of presidents who trash our Constitution? Can we evaluate Obama's character by his trivialization of the Bush/Cheney crimes and impeachable offenses?

Good luck in your search for another candidate atheist! Because that is, to say the least, unlikely...

I mean really if you already support Clinton and you would consider voting for McCain then just switch parties already. The ranks of the war mongers are thinning by the day, they could really use you in the DLC or GOP.

I know of several life-long Republicans who are considering a vote for Obama, but will vote for McCain instead if there is a Clinton on the ticket. Hillary would have my confidence, and would have had my vote, if she had run a campaign like Obama's, but she didn't. She ran what Terry McAuliffe and the DLC told her to, a campaign that was 16 years out of touch. If Hillary is on the ticket, she'll add nothing but her own negatives to Obama's, and McCain will win. And once again, Americans will have the government they deserve.

no one ever voted fascists out of power in an election which selfsame fascists allowed.

"The Obamacons do not need to preach to the Clinton supporters about how they should behave and vote, after throwing slime at Hillary for several months, most of it unwarranted."

The Clinton supporters are the slime merchants -- "I have the support of hard working Americans, WHITE Americans" -- but., as always, Obama came to her rescue, and said that he was sure she didn't intend the negative interpretation.

And who told the lie that the Obama camp was promising the Canadian government that the anti-NAFTA talk was just for show, when it was the CLINTON advisor who was doing it?

Who sneered that she & McCain had a "lifetime of experience" while Obama had "a speech he gave in 2002"?

Who got the support of Murdoch and Mellon Scaife, and then tried to laugh it off?

Who uses the word "obliterate" in reference to a country of 80 million people?

Jeffrey Toobin spoke for the majority of Americans, left and right, when he called tonight's graceless performance by Hilary moire of the 'deranged narcissism' of the Clintons. David Gergen winced, but HIlary's supporters are every bit as divorced from the real world as Bush's are.

When she was First Lady, I respected her...even though there were skeletons in her closet. Since, I have come to realize she is a slimy manipulative dishonest politician; the Florida-Michigan fiasco was one more nail in her coffin, as far as I am concerned. I saw the two-faced manipulator she is when she agreed to take her name off the ballot, then left it on, then said the votes wouldn't count, then demanded that they do when she realized she didn't stand a chance. Icky, icky, icky. Obama gets this middle aged white woman's vote!!!

Dear Barack:

Today, friends and I are undecided between voting for you or Nader. We support ALL of his issues, but not all of yours. We will vote against deadly nuclear power, against the War on Drugs and the prison system that destroys black and Hispanic communities, against Big Oil, war profiteering and Zionist wars, against the bloated military budget, for Medicare for all, for free education, for solar and wind energy and for high speed trains as examples.

We realize that voting our conscience could mean victory for McCain and four more years of disastrous fascist policies and that things may have to get worse before they get better.

We also realize that you have to bow to Big Money to win and hope that once in, you will do what's right although it goes against the oligarchy's dictates.

We may give you the benefit of the doubt and vote for you if you agree to adopt Senator Gravel's plan to use the referendum to let We the People become the lawmakers and make the big decisions instead of plutocrat-bought politicians.

Best regards

The Obamacons do not need to preach to the Clinton supporters about how they should behave and vote, after throwing slime at Hillary for several months, most of it unwarranted.

The Clinton folks are capable of figuring out how they will react to the apparent victory of Obama, without help from anyone else.

Excuse me, but anyone who would knowingly cast their vote allowing for four more years of disastrous fascist policies will have more blood on their own hands, not less. Wake up, people, this is not just about the U.S. of A! This is about the whole world. Stop being so narrow-minded! You are acting like a pouting little child who doesn't really know what fascist policies actually do to people at home and abroad.
I hope yours is an empty threat, that's all I have to say.

"Republican in Democrat Pantsuit" Clinton will ultimately get the nomination after some 'Merkin Racist shoots Obama...it's all pretty damn obvious.

Clinton has been the Neocons go to girl since the get go...Alzhiemer ridden McCain was only nominated b ecause the Republicans knew they could not win this year no matter who they put up, so they have their stalking horse Hilary.

Now watch Obama drift to the center and leave us progressives behind. Campaign spending limits NOW!

BUT, BUT, BUT, JOHN THIS IS AMERICA AND the recent speech written by Chris Hedges as Furnam University, printed in Truth Dig, says it so well for all of us who fighting the cooperate monster and what it has created - a planet that is a "World On Edge" my documentary one that covets acquisitiveness and consumer ideology as a reason for existence, as an end in itself.

Humanity is in peril because the USA elected George Bush as president with the complicity of the media which shows the lowest level of this corporate mentality that is so much an affront to humanity, a measure of the levels of intelligence of Americans, even though it was an illegal fifty-percent that elected him to office. Bush's election to office showed the flaws of this so-called democracy, and the level that the corporate empire will sink to be able to operate with impunity in the world, to rape the very survival of humanity for their greed-driven existence. This was notably seen at the Exxon hearings before the senate and the shareholders meeting at Exxon where the lowest level of corporate responsibility was fought so hard as to show that it even sickens the stomachs of the very wealthy.

All of this to continue a global economy, known as globalization with ideas of value promulgated by a country that is two hundred and fifty years old, led by an old shock jock, born again drunkard, with little regard for intellectual thought, or the very values that spiritual thought should imbue. Welcome to America!

In the present Congress and in the blogs most people avoid reality and don't really deal with the issues head on. Most are still looking for the magic technological bullet that will save the American economy so the USA can continue on the way it's going with ever more growth and ever more and greater GDP as the bankers, advise. Even some scientists think we can continue this way of life unchanged if we just, ease a little bit on energy consumption and wait until we figure it out. SOOO, TURN OUT THAT LIGHT AND DRIVE TO THE 7-11 IN YOUR HUMMER!

There are some who say it does not matter who one votes for in this political system, yes squander your vote on in another close election with a vote for Nader - We all know how perfect this man is and that he will be able to get things done! - If Nader were elected he would not be able to enact any meaningful legislation of consequence, but i thank him for his service to the American people. Not a single bill would become law because he would not have a congress that would give him the right time. It would be a fair day in hell to get anything done. With the leadership of Nancy Pelosi's, helping him, it would be worse.

Moreover, however bad Obama may be, there are no illusions that he is and must be, in the hands of the Democratic machine, but at least the platform will offer some relief for the masses and there is some hope, even now felt by the world, for the future and the environment.

Should Obama lose you have eight more years of the Bush/Cheney nightmare, that is just the facts so lets stop the idealistic nonsense offered up on the star-struck silver screen and your media driven nonsense TV and get real, this is the USA. There are too many important issues that require change to take chances. But some of you here have so much grand illusion that you feel that these past seven years, thanks to Nader in part, and Gore's ineptitude, were worth the experiment?

Nader is not the answer in a failed political system backed by corporate mentality that fifty percent of Americans have bought into must be changed quickly. The congress is where the laws of greed are enacted, such as it is, it's the system that must be changed and whether or not one likes or agrees with Obama, he has been chosen by the Demorepubs to try to change this woebegone imperfect idea of a system. Americans can be and are a much better people than their leaders have shown the world. For the first time Obama is suggesting only some of the changes that must be made.

The USA has some very serious problem that involves helping the rest of the world understand that they are not alone with the problems we all face. They must know once again and understand the people of the USA care! Obama has alluded to those issue recently. But the most important issue of all, who doubt Obama-for the first time I think in the annals of recent history or memory-the young people are involved with the democratic process. They believe in what this country could become and I with all my remaining breath will help them to do it. I too refuse to give up on hope what I once believed in and fought for, and what could become the global dream instead of the failed selfish American Dream that has become the global nightmare!

The future belongs to the young and it will be they who must take up the mantle of true change, which Obama offers and later in this primary and presidential race, all the others echoed! They the young want to make this country become what all of us here once hoped it would be, like Gore Vidal. So many of us who write here are disappointed, but for those who like what Rev. Wright said, when he spoke to the issues of his life, had to be bitter and critical about the past, I agree. He simply says many of things that Dr. Martin Luther King spoke to. Michelle Obama, recently being attacked and will no doubt be attacked by the Republicrats, is referring obliquely to American racism, which still exists but thanks to Obama is going. What Michelle Obama experienced is typical by white racist America that refuses to look in the mirror although it is now cracking not only for racism but for corporatism in favor of humanism as well.

I search my mind in wonder at the scientific and social perfection that has been attained in this forum. We have glorious information at out fingertips to tell us in great detail how we are destroying the world for human habitation. Since these blogs are a cross section of the so-called erudite community and writers who combined make the right-wing decisions for those who have been conditioned to find meaning by trying to think, I am amused with the petty squabbles undertaken here to prove that one has the intellectual rectitude to tell other fellows how to deal with crisis.

Having had a our say at the computer, well satisfied that our studious application of the accumulated data offered here has been properly digested, showing our intellects to be above the fray we continue to defend our miniscule positions of rectitude. This often involves cursing and slurs at others for some, impugning character for others, showing our Republican party credentials for some - we know that that brand is truly American-or showing our professional credentials, engineering or letters offered in proper ego sneering mode, in some instances-a group brought together to speak to the problems of humanity facing disaster. How good, a blog (definition: a collection of opinion based nonsense that lands right beside the point!) - as rarely seen in the annals human development.

Certainly a places of higher learning have produced great advances in species development but at the same time, based on the imperfect nature of thought a have allowed these advances and breakthroughs in science to turn those developments back on their creators. After a successful blog, the writers, having satisfied themselves with their contributions to the greater good, turn to the financial media to see whether their fortunes have gained significantly during their pursuit of ego gratification, so they may live out their days peacefully amused, as the remainder of the world suffers the agony of western invention and greed. As spoken from the White House, "let them eat cake" and may they choke, on it as their Asthma inhalers have lost their ability to forestall the wonders of air pollution.

I find my attention drawn to other thoughts when I read the bickering of whether the methane is spewing, leaking, puffing, or gaining greater more importance as it impacts on the climate change. I think of the institutions of science and the government led by a group of evil men and women from both parties, who in the pursuit of power, would care so little about humanity that the present leader "evildoer" would veto a bill to reduce the impact of work to limit emissions of the very gasses that would essentially destroy their children's lives. When one speaks of evil it cannot be greater than to directly affect the life of one's progeny, never mind the world where it will exist. Cold-blooded reptiles offer more protection and care for their offspring.

I have commented on previous science presented here on CD associated with climate change since this is my work. Many here echo many of my thoughts, as those above, associating GDP with CO2 but it must be recognized this condition is also associated with the laws of the USA, the governing establishment and the values of the culture which would vote for "Wall Street profit" above human survival. The places of higher learning and scientific development also teach successive generations value systems, the rule of law necessary for any society and should be discussing human purpose and meaning as it has developed over the eons of species advance.

This time we are the catalyst for our own extinction. The Chinese are producing more coal plants that will substantially diminish their fresh water supplies as well as adding to the globes greenhouse gasses, is a grand example of this environment be damned global economy. The ethanol versus food production shows us that the chance to change rapidly is out of our grasp. We have all done it!

Who has turned off their life style or their 401ks? America's selfish opportunism has turned love to stone? Will we spin to oblivion on a dead planet, probably? Where is the profit to be found here can someone from Wall Street explain this? 
Their is a fundamental feedback problem between the economic styles that Americans are trying to get the world to accept; a consumer disposable auto centered existence, and its affect on continued life.

Sadly, the most important survival mechanism which are associated with those ideas of higher levels in thought are absent in most current curriculums, or considered so abstract they rarely find their ways into the deliberations that are involved with the discussions surrounding, for example, the use of coal to power a culture or society (most of the so-called developed world). This however is appropriate if we consider that we use Jurassic energy conversion to continue the existence of Jurassic thinkers in the present day.

I am still suffering from "shock and awe" of the "Stern Report" commissioned by the UK for the "edification" of the global community, with regard to: the dangers of climate change to the world economy. Many of you remember the UK our partners in war, global hegemony, imperialism, lying to the electorate and also a great coal and oil burning culture. The economic report was trying to let the G8 economy down easily by accepting anywhere from three to five degrees of warming. It found that the economy could stand this amount of warming as inevitable but by acting immediately through a "cap in trade" philosophy the West could continue on its merry-way to greater consumption unabated. This philosophy is flawed from the outset by accepting pollution at all, particularly under this present circumstance of a ten-year window for survival.

It must be remembered that James Hansen has warned that western culture, now joined by the Chinese and Indians, has a TEN-YEAR window to radically shift its economic direction and choices of energy into a less Jurassically intense mentality. However, Hansen too thinks we have time to retool and believes we have until 2050 to make these changes. I have reminded him that less than five years ago we had until 2100 to make these changes. We have lost 50 years of that projection in two years. At the current rate of scientific perfectitude the forty-year time frame remaining may be down to the ten years, Hansen has predicted from the outset of his research. To his credit his measurement abilities have been enhanced by the Grace satellite-greater technology to deal with greater technological disaster.

Who cares there is absolutley no difference between PILLORY or O-BOMB-A-NATION neither of them have done anything to stop Bush NOTHING except for empty rehtoric period.
We would be better off if McCain wins at least there would be more anger that and an understanding that public action must be taken,and that action would be supported by the majority of our military,who have found themselves with no place to go in this traitorous Democratic congress,who display nothing but contempt for their constituents !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anger depletes mental ability to change and move forward we have no more than ten years to make this change! No sense in looking at what was only so far as instruction to do better.

Sorry but I have no way to address Hillary and her supporters other than to use curse words. So now this delusional c*nt is demanding the vice presidency?? Who is SHE to think that she can demand anything?

This LIAR who made up that sniper story in Bosnia and said she didn't think Obama was a muslin 'as fas as she knew', and instructed that other b*tch Ferraro to ignite white voters against him, now wants to be on the same ticket. Obama has to be INSANE to offer her the job, the very first thing she would do on the campaign trail was pour posion into his bottled water.

Not to mention that Hillary voted for the war, voted for the bankruptcy bill, voted to fund the war, the woman is a BUSH WHORE.

Did you watch Larry King, his nice BLACK grandma blush for Hillary? My friends CNN would use a weeping corpse if it could to see Hillary on the ticket and Blitzer would drive her to the re-union!